American Troops open fire on protestors - kill 10

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Psycho-Cannon, Apr 16, 2003.

  1. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    We have recently seen the American police open fire on Anti-war protestors in America with rubber bullets and concusion grenades claiming "they attacked first" despite claims from even the mayors office staff that this is not the case.
    now further from home in Iraq given the growing numbers of Anti-American protests who want and Iraqi Interim government instead of an american one claiming there can be no democracy installed or founded whilst the americans are overseeing it all.

    Now they have opend fire on these protestors as well but this time with live ammo killing 10 and wounding dozens more.,
    Of course they are claming to of been shot at first by people who then "Disapeared" but the press and protestors there of course say otherwise.
    Is this the start of the "Democracy" they want? where they wil shoot and kill anyone who doesn't agree with the way they want to run things?

    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/mosu-a16.shtml
     
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  3. riverline Registered Senior Member

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    I dont believe it, American troops do NOT kill civilians, they are as clean as Israel troops when they deal with palestinians, dont ever try to convince me that such thing could ever happen..

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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Shit happens.
     
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  7. Balder1 Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, take into account this is the website of the World Socialist Web Site. You'd think they could up with better, more believable propoganda than this shameless lying.

    Could you find this story somewhere else?
     
  8. Chris63 Registered Senior Member

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    here you are:

    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=397631

    Chris
     
  9. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    why does everyone just dismiss this because of the source instead of coming up with something solid to refute it.

    Thanks for the independant link mate.

    Whilst yes this site has a left spin i have yet to see them lie or falsify evidence like much of the "Free press" has been doing lately so as far as i'm concerned they are a more reliable source of news than most.
     
  10. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    its a commen human syndrom i call it "follow the leader", its basicly when someone sees another person doing something and then copies it with out thinking abuot it for them self.
    its a part of how humans learns stuff
     
  11. Salty Registered Senior Member

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    The Marines arent police they don't put up with crap. You should not be protesting when there is still a war going on in the area.
     
  12. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    rightttttttttttttttttt

    again you doge the geniva convention

    wonder if there will ever be charges laid over afgainistan, iraq then syria, iran, north koria ect
     
  13. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    "The Marines arent police they don't put up with crap. You should not be protesting when there is still a war going on in the area."
    Ja- Zat should allow killink all ze protestors for as lonk as necessary. Wunderbar, Herr Reichsprotektor.
     
  14. heflores Banned Banned

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    Well, the main reason I don't go out to protests, is that I'm convinced that
    1: They'll turn violent, because of protestors doings or police.
    2: The FBI is out taking pictures and that one day I'll get a surprise visit from the boys in Black and I'll disappear for eternity.
     
  15. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    heyya all

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    i think it is very likely that people will be shooting at the troops whenever they have crowds around to try to insight such actions!

    the stone throwing is on tape!
    its hard to try and justify stones with reply of bullets when such action might be considered normal in that country.

    congratulations U$A you fel right into the trap!

    now who looks bad!

    im sure they will now move to more suicide bombs then more riots
    to martre as many as possible to make the U$A loose face in the eyes of the world!

    look at all the locals who just start shooting at people driving vehicles with looted goods on board!
    its on film!

    so what "we" have the luxury of calling normal is total paradise compared to the way they have been trained in some countrys!

    maybe this is the first example why the troops have been soo relluctant to act like police toward the locals???

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  16. Coldrake Registered Senior Member

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    Uh. It's a war zone. Those guys aren't issued rubber bullets. Maybe those protestors ought to wait and see what develops before they assume the worst about a government.
     
  17. Salty Registered Senior Member

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    Your still in a hot spot of the world gathering up where you can be attacked by terrorist to make the USA look bad is not a good idea.

    Im pretty sure when your shot at you can retrun fire. Nobody has really posted a news source BTW both those articles are editorialized.
     
  18. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Operation Assholectomy has ended with the patient on critical life support. Iraq is dying, and the American occupation will only worsen the situation.
     
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  20. Psycho-Cannon Home grown and Psycho Registered Senior Member

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    Btw reuters also had a story on this "I'll dig up the link in a mo".
    seems not only was the speach irritating the crowd but given this is the american installed ruler and whilst he was giving the speach the American troops raised the stars and stripes over the official building...well comon ffs i know american foreign politics aren't very good but surely you must know given the tensions and given the crowd are getting rowdy against the guy you put into lead them, raising the stars and stripes in the middle of it was asking for trouble ffs.
    I'm not sure if the Americans fell victim in firing onto a crowd in response to a stoning making them look worse or the iraqis fell victim to responding to that provocation, or both?
     
  21. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    They fired when they were fired upon. Would you just stand there and get shot?

    FYI: It is easy to dissapear into a crowd of like-dressed individuals. Especially when they are in stampeed mode.
     
  22. Voodoo Child Registered Senior Member

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    They fired when they were fired upon. Would you just stand there and get shot?

    Hell no, firing into the crowd is the only thing to do. Ah, the false dichotomy of pacifism/ crazy machine gun rampage. Its unclear whether they were retaliating. I'd like to see some video footage or 7.62 casings.
     
  23. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    No. I'd leave.
    You invade a country and then you shoot people when they tell you to fuck off! Whats your problem? You could leave but you don't. You shoot people instead. I have nothing against America but this is not sustainable behavior. Your troops guard the oilwells and leave Museums and hospitals to be looted. Hell you've let politicians fuck up your own country what makes you think their gonna do any better overseas? Wise up and learn a bit of humility. Your ok really, I know you are,just show the world how nice you can be. Oh and give up on that 'gun culture' thing your worse than the Afgans!

    Sheesh!

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