Oops...Oil for food

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Teg, Apr 14, 2003.

  1. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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    It looks like the U.S. is going to have a difficult time collecting that protection money. Sure they've secured the wells and the ministry but somebody forgot all about the Oil for Food program institued by MR. Sam himself. Oh well maybe they can get a poke from the IMF. Because they've been murdered but they have yet to know what mass rape is like.

    Any thoughts on the U.S. will circumvent this program without the help of France and Russia?
     
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  3. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    What are you trying to say? I seem to have missed your point.
     
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  5. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Did you eat a brain tumor for breakfast Teg? I didnt understand a word you said.
     
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  7. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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    You dolts. Sanctions passed after the first war in the Gulf were recognized to have impacted the diet of the poorest Iraqis. So a new mandate called Oil for Food was enacted to allow for an account to be started and funds allocated to a humanitarian food effort. None of this has changed since the war so technically Iraq still can't sell its oil on the world market.

    The U.S. line is that the oil will be sold to help rebuild Iraq. Obviously this cannot happen until the Oil for Food program is rescinded and perhaps the funds released. But France and Russia can stop all of this.

    Back after the first vote the thought was that the U.S. was in agood position having tricked France and Russia into believing that postwar Iraq would honor prewar deals. Now it appears that Russia and France have some leverage afterall. So I would like your input.
     
  8. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    You obviously don't know anything about the oil-for-food program.
     
  9. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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  10. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    Why not?

    By passing more resolutions?

    I never for a minute thought that. You'd be dumb to think so.

    You mean leverage as their two almighty veto votes in the U.N.S.C.?
     
  11. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Are you saying that it would be better to keep the Iraqis dirt poor by keeping the embargo in place?
     
  12. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    The “Oil for food” program was initially based on an agreement between the UN Secretariat and the Government of Iraq. The “government of Iraq” is no more so the program should not be valid any longer. The program helped but could have been much more effective if it weren’t for U.S. and U.K. who blocked many imports (under the “dual-use” clause) and politicized the program (2002 smart sanctions). The U.S. will make sure this program disintegrates now that they are in control of Iraq. If (I hope) U.S. and U.N. will take the responsibility to “re-build” Iraq, they will need many of the import Items that U.S. put “on-hold” under the Oil for food program such as:
    Medical equipment
    Medical supplies
    Water treatment equipment
    Histopathology labs
    Sanitary hot water boilers
    Water dionizers
    Water treatment chemicals
    Laboratory equipment
    Civil engineer lab instruments
    Diagnostic materials
    Etc.
    Etc.
     
  13. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    who needs resolutions nowadays?
     
  14. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    UNICEF (United Nations International Children's Fund) sure seems to be working well. We found tons of supplies that were supposed to go to Iraqi schools in the private residence of one of saddam's sons. Just needed to be said.
     
  15. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    Really? How many "tons" where's your source?
     
  16. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Scrolling ticker on CNN. You expect them to drag a scale into his house and start weighing? We kind of have bigger things to deal with.

    Lord knows what the bastard was using them for. He also had a huge porn collection, (clothed) pictures of the bush twins, massive amounts of booze, and some heroin.
     
  17. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    CNN ticker .. I thought so. Let me help you out. In addition to boxes of school supplies, they found:
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030415/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_odai_s_hideaway_7

    The house was filled with boxes from handguns and piles of magazines, including "Guns and Ammo" and "Guns," as well as Spanish car magazines and catalogs of JetSkis.
    Soldiers said they found receipts for sports cars signed by Odai.
    There were "Dom Perignon, French wines — all appellation controlee, some 30-40 years old — a lot of very good brandy, a lot of good whiskey," Ballanco said. "There were boxes of Cuban cigars that said `Odai Saddam Hussein' on them, hundreds of them.
    He said there were also six bags of heroin.
    Odai's obsession with sex was evident everywhere. The house was adorned with paintings of naked women, as well as bundles of Internet printouts of what appeared to be prostitutes, complete with handwritten ratings of each. One black book listed hundreds of women's names and phone numbers.
    One e-mail printout was a complaint from a woman that she was having a difficult time finding heterosexual men in Europe. "Darling, babe, it's not good timing to send me sexy attachment. OH BOY where am I going to get one guy?" it read in English.


    What’s your point Clockwood? That Odai, lived a life of fast cars, expensive liquor and easy women? Uhmm . How is that different than your typical U.S. celebrity? .. And before you reply that there were starving Iraqi children, think of American child poverty.
     
  18. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Hes a royal bastard.

    We are working on our poverty problem. Everyone else should do the same. Its just a government CAN do two things at once without exploding.

    Heck, while we are fixing ours SOME countries out there are promoting it in order to better control their civilians. (or as they think of them: hostages)
     
  19. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    We're working on it? then why is it getting worse?:
    http://www.bread.org/hungerbasics/domestic.html#cite1

    Nearly 34million people—including 12.5 million children—live in households that experience hunger or the risk of hunger. This represents one in ten households in the United States (10 percent). 1
    3.3 percent of U.S. households experience hunger. Some people in these households frequently skip meals or eat too little, sometimes going without food for a whole day. 9 million people, including 3 million children, live in these homes. 1
    7.4 percent of U.S. households are at risk of hunger. Members of these households have lower quality diets or must resort to seeking emergency food because they cannot always afford the food they need. 24.6 million people, including 9.7 million children, live in these homes. 1
    Preschool and school-aged children who experience severe hunger have higher levels of chronic illness, anxiety and depression, and behavior problems than children with no hunger, according to a recent study.


    Oh yeah, we do set the standard! And the world should follow our example!
    Why don't we compare Saddam's son to any congressman (or most congressmen) who enjoy tons of free stuff they get from special interest groups. -- And that's just on the legal side. I'm too lazy to check, but I'm sure we can find more than a few examples. what the hell are you thinking clockwood?
     
  20. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Please give the stats from other nations now.
     
  21. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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  22. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    My point is to put into perspective the materials found in saddam’s son’s Palace. So he was a filthy rich bastered who lived an extravagant lifestyle while other people in his country were struggling to survive. The US, the wealthiest nation on earth, now has the widest gap between filthy rich and poor of any industrialized nation.

    http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/01/18/wage.gap/
     
  23. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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    No doubt, the Gini ratios are just getting sickening anymore. Polarization of income inequalities is a fact.
     

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