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Rav

04-28-11, 12:45 AM

I scored 26.

Your score of 26 falls in the range of Severe Depersonalization (25-75)

Seriously guys, this test is a farce. Never before have I taken an online personality test that has been so far off the mark. I know what depersonalization is and it does not manifest in any significant tangible or recognizable way in my day to day life.

Depersonalization (or depersonalisation) is a malfunction or anomaly of the mechanism by which an individual has self-awareness. It is a feeling of watching oneself act, while having no control over a situation.[1] It can be considered desirable, such as in the use of recreational drugs, but it usually refers to the severe form found in anxiety and, in the most intense cases, panic attacks. Sufferers feel they have changed, and the world has become less real, vague, dreamlike, or lacking in significance. It can be a disturbing experience, since many feel that, indeed, they are living in a "dream". - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization)

There are times when I can feel a little like that, but such experiences are more than balanced by all the times where I am enthusiastically engaging with life and just being myself.

Me-Ki-Gal

04-28-11, 01:22 AM

I scored 26.

Seriously guys, this test is a farce. Never before have I taken an online personality test that has been so far off the mark. I know what depersonalization is and it does not manifest in any significant tangible or recognizable way in my day to day life.

There are times when I can feel a little like that, but such experiences are more than balanced by all the times where I am enthusiastically engaging with life and just being myself.

That does not make Me feel any better about my score . Shit .!! The test is rigged

chimpkin

04-28-11, 01:29 AM

Had not thought about that...it does seem a bit extreme to declare anything over 25 "severe" depersonalization...

@Mikey...one...not sure I want to be fixed, two...not sure I can be fixed. I'm actually doing much better than I used to.
Haven't walked into any walls in years.:cool:

Rav

04-28-11, 01:32 AM

Let's do an analysis.

1. I have gone thru the motions of living while the real me was far away from what was happening to me.

Thru? Heh. I answered "once or twice" to this question.

2. I have felt that I was living in a dream

Again, once or twice.

3. I have been able to see myself from a distance, as if I were outside of my body watching a movie of myself.

Once or twice.

4. I feel that I can turn off or detach from my emotions.

It's actually pretty difficult for me to get into a state like this, but it's happened, once or twice.

5. My behavior has felt out of control.

I'm usually very in control. I get irritated and emotional occasionally, but I don't have a temper. It's a very rare thing for me to feel out of control, but again, it can happen. Once or twice.

6. I have purposely hurt or cut myself so that I could feel pain or that I am real.

Not recently. I did something like that once when I was much younger during a bout of minor depression, but the hormonal roller-coaster ride was over long ago. How am I supposed to answer this? Does 20 years ago count? I answered once or twice because I did it once.

7. I have gone through the motions of working while I felt that my mind was somewhere else.

Who hasn't. Seriously? Once or twice.

8. I feel as if I am "spacey".

Sometimes, sure, especially when I am tired. Again I'd imagine that anyone would relate.

9. I have had the feeling that I was a stranger to myself or have not recognized myself in the mirror.

I answered "only with drugs or alcohol" for this one, drugs particularly. But I don't do drugs anymore.

10. One part of me does things while an observing part talks to me about them.

It's hard to know what this question is really all about. There have certainly been situations where I have engaged in a deep analysis of what I am doing while I am doing it, so I again I answered once or twice.

11. I have felt as if parts of my body were disconnected from the rest of my body.

Never, unless you count full OOBE's under the influence of drugs. I answered never, but answering "only with drugs or alcohol" instead doesn't alter my score anyway.

12. My whole body or parts of it have seemed unreal or foreign to me.

Can't say I've ever really felt like that. Never.

13. I have felt as if words flowed from my mouth but they were not in my control.

Never.

14. I have felt that my emotions are not in my control.

Many times. I can be a very emotional person, but although the emotions themselves are difficult to command, the actions I take in response to them are very much under my control.

15. I have felt invisible.

I am assuming that invisible here is synonymous with unimportant or inconsequential. I have felt that way once or twice.

I answered YES to the last three questions, as you must even if the overall impact of any of the things you've experienced was minor (which in my case it was).

The bottom line here is that I find it difficult to imagine that even a "healthy" or "normal" person would be able to answer "never" to too many of these questions unless they are very young and/or have never experienced things like a broken heart, or the loss of a loved one, or the emotional toll of a stressful vocation, or any number of other things that can negatively impact upon a person from time to time. It's clear to me that this test is returning a result that is only indicative of my collective state of mind during all of the most difficult periods of my life.

By the way, everyone should read the disclaimer: http://www.strangerinthemirror.com/questionnaire.html#disclaimer

chimpkin

04-28-11, 01:59 AM

1. I have gone thru the motions of living while the real me was far away from what was happening to me.
A lot less these days, why I stopped totalling cars.

2. I have felt that I was living in a dream
I was convinced I was a figment of someone else's dream for awhile, I wanted them to wake up.

Let's just say I identify with #3. I'm not giving details.

4. I feel that I can turn off or detach from my emotions.
I often don't realize I'm having them.

5. My behavior has felt out of control.
Yes.:( :facepalm:

7. I have gone through the motions of working while I felt that my mind was somewhere else.
Why I don't like really sharp kitchen knives...my wife does. I bought her her own after I sunk my freshly razor-sharpened knife (surprise!) about an eighth of an inch into my thumb...

8. I feel as if I am "spacey".
Start saying stuff that upsets me enough and I'll forget what you've said by the time you finish saying it. The sunshine of a spotless mind.:cool:

10. One part of me does things while an observing part talks to me about them.
I went through years where I had the internal equivalent of a sportscaster in my head. Annoying. Also a voice that kept yelling nonsense words at me. I got addicted to radio.

12. My whole body or parts of it have seemed unreal or foreign to me.
Most of the time. It's just the defective meat puppet I run around in. It's weak. It's not terribly attractive or useful.

13. I have felt as if words flowed from my mouth but they were not in my control.
Yes...I will just say things and have no idea why...

15. I have felt invisible.
Yes. Actually, though, I think I mostly wanted to be invisible.

But if it thinks Rav has severe depersonalization...when he sounds pretty normal...I guess I needn't take it too seriously...and as I said, I doubt I'm fixable anyway.

wynn

04-28-11, 02:14 AM

The diatribe of the deluded dot -
http://www.livingcompassion.org/the-voices-archive

chimpkin

04-28-11, 02:36 AM

The diatribe of the deluded dot -
http://www.livingcompassion.org/the-voices-archive
Why do I feel really patronized by this?

Thanks, Signal :mad:

wynn

04-28-11, 02:51 AM

You might want to pick up some books by Cheri Huber.
Especially "There is nothing wrong with you" and "What you practice is what you have".
She addresses the kind of things you are wondering about, and she does it in a very approachable manner.
(Her background is Zen, but there is little specifically Buddhist in her books.
Here's an introductory interview with her - http://www.soundstrue.com/podcast/cheri-huber-there-is-nothing-wrong-with-you/?transcript_to_fire=cheri-huber.php )

I am sorry you feel patronized by my reply.

You opened with "I'm...finding my results...a bit disturbing...I'll post them later." and you're asking people to take the test too an post their results.
If you reach out for help and support, expect that at least some people will try to do so.
Not everyone is interested in helping you whine and wallow.

;)

chimpkin

04-28-11, 03:01 AM

I was not asking for support.

Did you see me ask for support?

This is not a support forum. If I want support I will go to one.
I'm already a member of three of them.

She addresses the kind of things you are wondering about
I believe I wanted to see what a random, unrepresentative sample of sciforums members got on that exam for comparison to what I got on it, that's all.

That was certainly what I said.

Not everyone is interested in helping you whine and wallow.

Yes, because you must know what's best for me, how I'm supposed to feel and how marvellously simple it is for me to be happy as a clam.

You see...to a suffering person, sometimes it's important that you acknowledge the reality of where they are, rather than where you think they ought to be. And then say "Oh, you're whining and wallowing!" If they're not moving along to happy fluffiness as rapidly as suits your taste.

But I really didn't ask for all this tonight, I just wanted to see what other people got on this particular questionnaire.

Although...I now notice getting me angry has actually made me feel a lot more present, alert, centered, and calm.

Thank you, Signal.

wynn

04-28-11, 05:40 AM

I believe I wanted to see what a random, unrepresentative sample of sciforums members got on that exam for comparison to what I got on it, that's all.

http://esum.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/serious.jpg

But I really didn't ask for all this tonight, I just wanted to see what other people got on this particular questionnaire.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ln_ta8qbvYg/SKY2VJyuyeI/AAAAAAAAAAU/XPeVGCDtZZw/s400/20070314.gif

Yes, because you must know what's best for me, how I'm supposed to feel and how marvellously simple it is for me to be happy as a clam.

Duh. Self-victimization is sooo passe.

You see...to a suffering person, sometimes it's important that you acknowledge the reality of where they are, rather than where you think they ought to be. And then say "Oh, you're whining and wallowing!" If they're not moving along to happy fluffiness as rapidly as suits your taste.

Okay, if your current reality is that you rather be indirect for the time being ...

Although...I now notice getting me angry has actually made me feel a lot more present, alert, centered, and calm.

Yay! You go girl!

jmpet

04-28-11, 07:27 AM

YOUR SCORE IS 28

Your score of 28 falls in the range of Severe Depersonalization (25-75).We recommend that you be evaluated by a professional who is trained in the administration of the full SCID-D interview. If your depersonalization has interfered with your relationships with friends, family or coworkers, or has affected your ability to work or has caused you distress, it is particularly important that you obtain a professional consultation.

Lori_7

04-28-11, 09:04 AM

34. severe.

spidergoat

04-28-11, 09:11 AM

27 The issue here is that enlightenment feels just like depersonalization, but it's not usually a problem.

Lori_7

04-28-11, 09:43 AM

27 The issue here is that enlightenment feels just like depersonalization, but it's not usually a problem.

i agree. i attribute my severe score to spirituality, some pretty intense experiences i would say resulted in an awakening and enlightenment. imo, the more intense, the more traumatic, because at least initially, there is this duality. the more intense and abrupt, the more conflict there is to resolve between the spirit and the flesh, or your old perspective vs your new perspective, or what's going on in your head or heart vs what's going on in the world, or even in your own life. it can be very difficult, like a war going on inside you, or a storm. ultimately you're really fighting with yourself.

leopold

04-28-11, 10:05 AM

http://similarminds.com/index.html

Lori_7

04-28-11, 10:12 AM

i went through a period where the best way i can describe it is that, it was like some being, who was used to being entirely free, and experiencing the joy that freedom brought, in a place that's pure and beautiful and right, was living in my skin, and in this world, and it was NOT happy. it was NOT comfortable. i felt like ripping my fucking skin off. EVERYTHING was ugly, and stupid, and cumbersome, and backwards, and perverted, and toxic, and sick. i could feel it in me, and it was like people were wearing their disease, looking like caricatures of what they should be. i was so frustrated and angry. i felt enslaved. i felt like the whole world was my obstacle course. i stopped eating meat, dairy, eggs, sugar, and went organic vegan. filtered my water. stopped wearing makeup. cut all the color out of my hair. stopped smoking cigarettes, pot, drinking alcohol, no caffeine. i just felt like everything was so toxic.

that was horrible. i was so fucking strung out. i felt like i was trapped in a cage. actually, i felt like everyone was trapped in their own cage. it was horrible.

it was like, all of a sudden, all of the shitty things i had been conditioned to my whole life, i wasn't conditioned to anymore. and it was shocking to realize what we can get used to, and enlightening, and sickening, and it sucked.

joepistole

04-28-11, 10:59 AM

I scored a 14, it says I am normal; whatever that means. I think it should be noted that these tests are not infallible. Before coming to conclusions, one should consult recognized experts and the results should be vaildated with other tests and personal interviews.

I suggest people heed the advice in the disclaimer posted on the website:

http://www.strangerinthemirror.com/questionnaire.html#disclaimer

spidergoat

04-28-11, 11:34 AM

In my view, enlightenment is the realization that personality is an illusion. A useful one, but still not the essence of who we are. It's an act. Identifying with the underlying intellect instead, or alternatively not identifying at all, brings great freedom, but it also feels disconnected. This isn't normal, since it's normal to think your personality is yourself, and some people cannot handle it. I'm not saying dissociation is always enlightenment, a relative of mine experienced something like that after taking some medication, and it was a major problem for them.

Me-Ki-Gal

04-28-11, 12:11 PM

27 The issue here is that enlightenment feels just like depersonalization, but it's not usually a problem.

Oh I feel better now . I must be on the extreme side of enlightenment . Wait you said "not usually. I'm O.K. with it. Use to it. No big deal . who cares anyway. Pay taxes and die . The meaning of life in America. Ya Way . That is what me Progressive Leaders tell Me . Ed he says " I love paying Taxes , don't you" I told him He can pay mine sense he loves paying them so much . He don't have the money to pay my Taxes . It is a Pipe dream for Him to pay my taxes he loves so much to pay.

Sorry off point. I think the premise of the test is wrong . Depersonalization seems to be more Personalization instead for Me . Although like I do walk into wall quite frequently . I always thought it was because I didn't have a V8 . I can drink Maple water any time I believe , scale any wall . I'm a go listen to that song . "I Believe in you" by Black Dub That will cheer Me Up

janm

04-28-11, 12:36 PM

Asking questions like "ever" loads them with subjective failure. Nonsense to all of that. Who hasn't experienced times of feeling out of control?

Why, we wouldn't be normal were it not for the "human condition".

Blather and bunk! We allowed crazies to lead us throughout history because of our weak belief in SELF. If you can't get it together and trust yourself - and only yourself, you are doomed to be slaves. Well, just my opinion. Humble - NOT

Cifo

04-28-11, 12:43 PM

Blather and bunk!

Yeah, never as a barber if you need a haircut! Someone did an experiment where a normal woman was admitted to a mental institution for observation, and even though she acted perfectly sane, the staff misconstrued some of her normal activities as unhealthy behavior.

I scored 18. Mild. Blather and bunk ... and baloney.

Enmos

04-28-11, 12:44 PM

YOUR SCORE IS 16

Your overall score of 16 falls in the range of Mild Depersonalization (15-24).

This test sucks.
I answered 'never' to nearly all questions with the exception of questions 7 and 14, which I answered with 'sometimes'.

"7. I have gone through the motions of working while I felt that my mind was somewhere else."
- Everone experiences that once in while. Seems pretty normal to me. I think the word to describe this state is 'distracted' :rolleyes:

"14. I have felt that my emotions are not in my control."
Anyone that claims that they have their emotions under control all of the time is either a liar or a sociopath. Or a Vulcan.. :rolleyes:

chimpkin

04-28-11, 02:10 PM

This test sucks.

I think that is indeed the general response....therefore I shall take it to mean I'm only as nutty as I am...and that this test isn't a decent analysis tool at all.
Which makes me feel quite a lot better.

I do note no psych professional (and I've been through a goodly number of them) have used this test on me.

I got a 54 on it, BTW.

@ Signal...The reason your approach to helping doesn't exactly come off...I'm going to try and explain:

The approach that works is something like: " I see you suffering, and I sympathize, as I too have suffered. I have found this to be personally useful."
And keep in mind that different people have different wiring and issues, so no one approach is going to work for every person. We're all snowflakes.

What your approach feels like to me? "I see your suffering and find it distasteful. Here, this will fix you right up, and if you choose not to use this approach that worked for me, you are just choosing to be miserable, you pathetic loser, you."
See the difference? one seems to express caring, the other rejection and dismissal of the other person.
Look, a lot of people are running around damaged in this world because other people didn't care about them when they desperately needed to be cared about. Sometimes simply expressing caring about someone else...can be helpful to said person.
Conversely, dismissal of another person's thoughts and feelings is at the least, rather insulting...
If you've had trouble comforting people in the past, this might be why it has been so.
...
One of the things I'm working on right now is called "Radical Acceptance." That is, at least in part, a way of dealing with intense emotional states...

Radical acceptance says of the emotional state: "You feel horrible. Just accept that you feel what you feel, feel the feeling fully, and remember it's an emotion. They come and go. Don't avoid, don't cling, don't beat yourself up. Just have them. They come and go."
I'm going to go enjoy the nice day we're having here now.

Enmos

04-28-11, 02:19 PM

I got a 54 on it, BTW.

A lot of the questions can be taken to be about stuff almost everyone goes through. They must mean you to take them in an as-severe-as-possible way.. and that's why it sucks ;)

chimpkin

04-28-11, 02:36 PM

They must mean you to take them in an as-severe-as-possible way
I did do that, but...too vaguely worded, not fine enough gradation.

Would have been improved by using a spectrum of "strongly disagree" to 'strongly agree" and wording the questions accordingly, or using a one to ten scale...or adding more questions, and wording them more precisely.

NMSquirrel

04-28-11, 05:12 PM

I got a 54 on it, BTW.
damn it, i was winning with 39....
test is biased,questions could be phrased different..not so suggestive,

Look, a lot of people are running around damaged in this world because other people didn't care about them when they desperately needed to be cared about. Sometimes simply expressing caring about someone else...can be helpful to said person.
'care' is an dynamic action word in this sense, IE don't say you care, show you care.
99 percent of the ppl in my life who 'said' they cared about me, was only paying lip service..there have been other ppl in my life who have never 'said' they cared, but you could tell they did because it showed.

Conversely, dismissal of another person's thoughts and feelings is at the least, rather insulting...
If you've had trouble comforting people in the past, this might be why it has been so.
...
my bad habit is to think ahead of them so the communication of 'i understand,been there done that' gets missed,
confirmation IS critical to earn trust.
just to spout opinion and not confirm understanding is irresponsible to both parties.

One of the things I'm working on right now is called "Radical Acceptance." That is, at least in part, a way of dealing with intense emotional states...
remember the Alamo..
they were defeated because they didn't examine their soft spot..

Radical acceptance says of the emotional state: "You feel horrible. Just accept that you feel what you feel, feel the feeling fully, and remember it's an emotion. They come and go. Don't avoid, don't cling, don't beat yourself up. Just have them. They come and go."
this is true..which is why a person should not make any major decisions while they are emotional, our emotions will change from moment to moment..specially those that are emotionally driven..

I'm going to go enjoy the nice day we're having here now.
i am tearing down a garage(busted up concrete today..) and getting ready to build a new one right now, after about three months of not working..I AM SORE!..and i LOVE it..it means i am working!:D

Michael

04-28-11, 06:08 PM

YOUR SCORE IS 21

Your overall score of 21 falls in the range of Mild Depersonalization (15-24).

I often go on auto-drive when doing routine tasks and drift off to think about things. Most people who know me say I have too much on my mind and I should do some meditation :) One person accused me of wanting to know everything so I have total control 'over my world'. haha.... I think there's a little truth in all of those opinions. If I am and do, well, that's OK with me. I like to day dream, learn and think.

skaught

04-28-11, 06:22 PM

I scored A 23

Crunchy Cat

04-28-11, 08:44 PM

25, I call bs on the test.

leopold

04-28-11, 11:18 PM

try this one:
http://similarminds.com/jung.html

my score:
Introverted (I) 69.7% Extroverted (E) 30.3%
Sensing (S) 56.76% Intuitive (N) 43.24%
Thinking (T) 58.97% Feeling (F) 41.03%
Perceiving (P) 59.38% Judging (J) 40.63%

Your type is: ISTP

ISTP - "Engineer". Values freedom of action and following interests and impulses. Independent, concise in speech, master of tools. 5.4% of total population.

Michael

04-28-11, 11:26 PM

Extroverted (E) 79.41% Introverted (I) 20.59%
Intuitive (N) 61.54% Sensing (S) 38.46%
Thinking (T) 75% Feeling (F) 25%
Perceiving (P) 59.38% Judging (J) 40.63%

Your type is: ENTP

ENTP - "Inventor". Enthusiastic interest in everything and always sensitive to possibilities. Non-conformist and innovative. 3.2% of the total population.

Funny enough, I am an inventor :)

chimpkin

04-28-11, 11:43 PM

I took that awhile back, I remember being an INTJ...

From the wikipedia page:

INTJs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "Does it work?" to everything from their own research efforts to the prevailing social norms.
*nods*

Whatever system an INTJ happens to be working on is for them the equivalent of a moral cause to an INFJ; both perfectionism and disregard for authority may come into play
yup

Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense.

:wallbang:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ

wynn

04-29-11, 03:48 AM

This test sucks.

I think the basic premise of Western psychology is that a normal person has little or no meta-awareness of themselves.
A normal person is someone who goes through the motions of life, without feeling it as "going through the motions".

Psychological analysis is considered something reserved for professionals.
It is not intended that the regular folk would read psychology books and such and apply what they read there to themselves and others.

wynn

04-29-11, 04:03 AM

The approach that works is something like: " I see you suffering, and I sympathize, as I too have suffered. I have found this to be personally useful."

You struck me so far as tough somehow (not in a bad sense, just someone who resents niceness), so I took a more direct approach. I thought you would resent anything that would be softer than that.

What your approach feels like to me? "I see your suffering and find it distasteful. Here, this will fix you right up, and if you choose not to use this approach that worked for me, you are just choosing to be miserable, you pathetic loser, you."
See the difference? one seems to express caring, the other rejection and dismissal of the other person.

It takes two to tango.
I've been around for a while, and I've noticed that people respond very differently to various approaches to support and help. There seems to be no universally acceptable approach.

Some people require an extremely touchy-feely approach, some others will accuse one of manipulation or being a phony if one takes that approach.

A certain variation of "tough love" seems to be the "middle way", especially online.
Anyway, my point is only to convey information/suggestion, not to be a shoulder to cry on. I think that care over the internet is essentially a contradiction in terms.

One of the things I'm working on right now is called "Radical Acceptance."

Tara Brach?

wynn

04-29-11, 04:04 AM

Oh well, and my Helen Mirren avatar seems to have quite an effect too!

Rav

04-29-11, 12:27 PM

ESTP

Extroverted (E) 61.76% Introverted (I) 38.24%
Sensing (S) 54.55% Intuitive (N) 45.45%
Thinking (T) 60.61% Feeling (F) 39.39%
Perceiving (P) 64.86% Judging (J) 35.14%

Anarcho Union

04-29-11, 02:35 PM

33...

Me-Ki-Gal

04-29-11, 02:50 PM

damn it, i was winning with 39....
test is biased,questions could be phrased different..not so suggestive,

'care' is an dynamic action word in this sense, IE don't say you care, show you care.
99 percent of the ppl in my life who 'said' they cared about me, was only paying lip service..there have been other ppl in my life who have never 'said' they cared, but you could tell they did because it showed.

my bad habit is to think ahead of them so the communication of 'i understand,been there done that' gets missed,
confirmation IS critical to earn trust.
just to spout opinion and not confirm understanding is irresponsible to both parties.

remember the Alamo..
they were defeated because they didn't examine their soft spot..

this is true..which is why a person should not make any major decisions while they are emotional, our emotions will change from moment to moment..specially those that are emotionally driven..

i am tearing down a garage(busted up concrete today..) and getting ready to build a new one right now, after about three months of not working..I AM SORE!..and i LOVE it..it means i am working!:D

You better be following lead containment procedures if it is pre 1976 construction or I'm a gonna turn you in to the E.P.A. and you know what? The fine is 37,000 dollars per offense. If you take out 2 windows in the building that constitutes 2 offenses . Should we start adding up your Liability now so you know how much trouble you are in . Get out your check book !!! I take bribes . Cash is fine . I am working on getting my share of the pie . How Me doing ? If I could just cloud my moral clarity all will be fine

chimpkin

04-29-11, 05:21 PM

Signal said:
You struck me so far as tough somehow (not in a bad sense, just someone who resents niceness), so I took a more direct approach. I thought you would resent anything that would be softer than that.

Thanks?

Too much niceness bugs me...syrupy.
I'm...mostly tough.
Think armored shell surrounding squishy interior.

It's that I...was damaged and can't seem to overcome aspects of that.
I overcome some of it and find another(and usually more profound) layer, like peeling an onion.

So-that cartoon, which basically said to me that I'm willfully colluding in my own misery, stung like hell.
Because you don't know my history enough to accurately make that judgement call.
And...at this point you've proven yourself not to be safe.

I also really think talking about this at all, outside of PM's, on this forum is probably a mistake...and at this point I'm really wishing I had not brought it up.
I was just quite shaken at that moment.

But I won't be making the same mistake again...these aren't friendly waters.

NMSquirrel

04-29-11, 07:00 PM

Introverted (I) 59.52% Extroverted (E) 40.48%
Intuitive (N) 60% Sensing (S) 40%
Feeling (F) 51.43% Thinking (T) 48.57%
Perceiving (P) 54.55% Judging (J) 45.45%

INFP - "Questor". High capacity for caring. Emotional face to the world. High sense of honor derived from internal values. 4.4% of total population.
---

What do they mean i am emotional??
I am NOT Emotional!..
:confused::rolleyes::D

but seriously..i don't think i show an emotional face to the world..

i got 60 on intuitive..

<edit>
Oh..chimpkin..take the test again and compare it to your previous test...

NMSquirrel

04-29-11, 07:03 PM

I'm willfully colluding in my own misery,

doesn't everyone do that?

gmilam

04-29-11, 07:08 PM

NMSquirrel

04-29-11, 07:08 PM

You better be following lead containment procedures if it is pre 1976 construction or I'm a gonna turn you in to the E.P.A. and you know what? The fine is 37,000 dollars per offense. If you take out 2 windows in the building that constitutes 2 offenses . Should we start adding up your Liability now so you know how much trouble you are in . Get out your check book !!! I take bribes . Cash is fine . I am working on getting my share of the pie . How Me doing ? If I could just cloud my moral clarity all will be fine

what would the fine be if my hand takes all the wood home and burns it in his fireplace?(he is the poster child for 'don't throw that away..its perfectly good')
AND he has the property to put it on...(i would pry be like that if i had property..)

chimpkin

04-29-11, 07:14 PM

Unfortunately, the work filter won't let me access that website:(
I went to this one...it has a really simplstic version of the test, and it thinks I'm an INFJ
http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html
This one:
http://kisa.ca/personality/
Thinks I'm an ISTP:

Introverted (I) 86% Extraverted (E) 14%
Sensing (S) 50% Intuitive (N) 50%
Thinking (T) 55% Feeling (F) 45%
Perceiving (P) 55% Judging (J) 45%

Edited to add:

Originally Posted by chimpkin
I'm willfully colluding in my own misery,

NMSquirrel asked:
doesn't everyone do that?

Meh, to some degree..and I do it to some degree too, I suppose. I could take "perfect" care of myself, manage my conditions "perfectly," never have therapy-free portions of my life...never slack off in self-analyzing or meditating, never forget any of the pills I get to take (I pop more pills than Pac-Man)

but to say, you're just miserable because you want to be miserable?
That's not only kicking a person in the teeth, it's not true.

NMSquirrel

04-29-11, 07:15 PM

hmm..it also said, favored careers;
poet, painter, freelance artist, musician, writer, art therapist, teacher (art, music, drama), songwriter, art historian, library assistant, composer, work in the performing arts, art curator, playwrite, bookseller, cartoonist, video editor, photographer, philosopher, record store owner, digital artist, cinematographer, costume designer, film producer, philosophy professor, librarian, music therapist, environmentalist, movie director, activist, bookstore owner, filmmaker

i always knew i had an inner artist,contracting is the closest i have found to express my artistic side..

but then again...
disfavored careers;
business professional, manager, executive, administrator, business owner, supervisor, office manager, business analyst, financial analyst, public relations manager, ceo, executive assistant, judge, event coordinator, lawyer, office worker

gee i qualify for most of that, being i own my own construction business..

Me-Ki-Gal

04-29-11, 07:24 PM

Thanks?

Too much niceness bugs me...syrupy.
I'm...mostly tough.
Think armored shell surrounding squishy interior.

It's that I...was damaged and can't seem to overcome aspects of that.
I overcome some of it and find another(and usually more profound) layer, like peeling an onion.

So-that cartoon, which basically said to me that I'm willfully colluding in my own misery, stung like hell.
Because you don't know my history enough to accurately make that judgement call.
And...at this point you've proven yourself not to be safe.

I also really think talking about this at all, outside of PM's, on this forum is probably a mistake...and at this point I'm really wishing I had not brought it up.
I was just quite shaken at that moment.

But I won't be making the same mistake again...these aren't friendly waters.

I am your friend and I can relate Chimpkin . All though I may be more like the boy scout in a canoe personality I would never laugh and point fingers at you for I too am the one who gets the finger pointed at or at least identifies with the feelings of exile from mainstream America . I don't know why we have such a lack of compassion as a nation ? Maybe it is the big boys don't cry mentality . I find my self crying more and more these days . It is not easy to grow a heart , but you know what I am one of many that are . By your posts I know I love you for you are me and I am you . We are human . I still am not telling you my score . Shit F--ck Me , Who cares ! It is rigged

Me-Ki-Gal

04-29-11, 07:32 PM

NMSquirrel

04-29-11, 07:38 PM

koo koo katcho..

real men aren't afraid to wear pink.

universaldistress

04-29-11, 10:06 PM

I got 25. But am very happy with who I am. This test is BS. Made to drum up business for quacks.

NCDane

04-29-11, 10:45 PM

I scored 25. I double checked the answers and there was no need to change any:

1. I have gone thru the motions of living while the real me was far away from what was happening to me. NEVER

2. I have felt that I was living in a dream. NEVER

3. I have been able to see myself from a distance, as if I were outside of my body watching a movie of myself. MANY TIMES

4. I feel that I can turn off or detach from my emotions. NEVER

5. My behavior has felt out of control. SOMETIMES

6. I have purposely hurt or cut myself so that I could feel pain or that I am real. NEVER

7. I have gone through the motions of working while I felt that my mind was somewhere else. MANY TIMES

8. I feel as if I am "spacey". SOMETIMES

9. I have had the feeling that I was a stranger to myself or have not recognized myself in the mirror. NEVER

10. One part of me does things while an observing part talks to me about them. SOMETIMES

11. I have felt as if parts of my body were disconnected from the rest of my body. NEVER

12. My whole body or parts of it have seemed unreal or foreign to me. NEVER

13. I have felt as if words flowed from my mouth but they were not in my control. NEVER

14. I have felt that my emotions are not in my control. SOMETIMES

15. I have felt invisible. NEVER

Did the experience(s) interfere with your relationships with friends, family or coworkers? YES

Did it affect your ability to work? YES

Did it cause you discomfort or stress? NO

I agree with the member who said the real goal of this test is to drum up business for quacks.
I would like to add that psychology/psychiatry is almost completely quack.

Kittamaru

04-29-11, 11:29 PM

YOUR SCORE IS 40

Your score of 40 falls in the range of Severe Depersonalization (25-75).We recommend that you be evaluated by a professional who is trained in the administration of the full SCID-D interview. If your depersonalization has interfered with your relationships with friends, family or coworkers, or has affected your ability to work or has caused you distress, it is particularly important that you obtain a professional consultation.

Should an experienced clinician find that you have a dissociative disorder, you have a treatable illness with a very good prognosis for recovery. Your illness is widely shared by others who coped with trauma by using the self-protective defense of dissociation.

With proper treatment, in time you will no longer find it necessary to disconnect from yourself or your feelings. Eventually, as you grow strong enough to reconnect with your memories, feelings and behaviors and begin to accept them as your own, your depersonalization will be reduced and you will become a more integrated and psychologically healthy person.

I don't quite agree with the test though... at times, I detach myself from my emotions in order to become a more stable platform of rational and/or logical though in times of great stress or danger... removing the emotional (and thus impulsive) aspect of myself from the decision making process makes it far easier to rationally review all the possible courses of action. This is especially important when dealing with highly irrational and/or irate people in my line of work. I also know when/why and how I become "detached" from my physical body (while admittedly I have not had it happen / needed it to happen for a while now) and it is nothing more than a multi-faceted defensive system that I am gifted to be able to employ, again, in times of great stress, be it physical or emotional. Having conversations with other "parts" of myself is also rather normal, in that it allows me to "bounce" questions off myself in order to better view the situation from all angles (think how in "House" the main character has to "bounce" questions off his team in order to better arrive at the right diagnoses even though he has all the information he actually needs to reach said diagnosis... I consider it part of the "human" symptom)

All in all, I feel I am quite well mentally, spiritually, and (mostly anyway) physically, and that just because I don't fit some people's idea of "normality" doesn't mean anything is wrong with me :)

wynn

04-30-11, 01:26 AM

And...at this point you've proven yourself not to be safe.

I also really think talking about this at all, outside of PM's, on this forum is probably a mistake...and at this point I'm really wishing I had not brought it up.
I was just quite shaken at that moment.

But I won't be making the same mistake again...these aren't friendly waters.

It's not that these aren't friendly waters (although they probably aren't all that unfriendly either).

It's that when one sets out to "clean out one's closets", one should be prepared to find all kinds of filth.
It's that if one asks for input from others, one should be prepared that some might actually get to those things that are really really painful for one.

It's probably not a good idea to post about difficult personal problems in open forums.
It's certainly possible to do so, but that also requires that one be able to distance oneself from one's problems enough. Which can also help in solving them.

Good luck!