A Critical Look at Math and Science Teachers

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by serenesam, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. serenesam Registered Senior Member

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    1). Stop saying that .0000000000000001 equals 0 (calculator does that too). The lie detector is 99.9% accurate but that doesn’t mean that it is 100% accurate. Sometimes, the lie detector results show “inconclusive.”

    2). Stop saying that when data is found to be insignificant it is insignificant. Why? Because that which is insignificant can become significant. The emphasis in the word become suggests an automatic default change or the change initiated and/or manipulated by a human being and/or unknown party/parties. The dependent (outcome) variable can change by itself without any influence from the independent (manipulative) variable, can change with the influence of an independent (manipulative) variable (the saying that we can alter our social reality), or can change with the influence of unknown party/parties. The dependent (outcome) variable itself can also become its own independent (manipulative) variable. Hence, the change occurrence can be done by the entity itself; both of the activities of the independent variable and the dependent variable may or may not occur simultaneously. Please note that the statement "Stop saying that when data is found to be insignificant, it is insignificant because that doesn't mean that is not significant" is a direct analogy to a "metaphor" or "figurative speech." Just like in poetry, there is always a deeper meaning, a secondary meaning, or a meaning that has nothing to do with the denotative meaning. In that statement, I am not referring to "rejecting or accepting the null hypothesis" as taught in statistics. The statement can be interpreted as "Research has found a lot of significant data evidence supporting..." or "Research has found no significant statistical connection to support..." In this context, describing statistical significance has no relevance to the denotative definition of statistical significance taught in a basic statistics course.

    3). Stop saying that the laws of physics are unbreakable. Why? Because they are breakable through the will of the Combined Consciousness. Yes, it is true that when you toss out an item out the window, it is supposed to fall to the ground but that doesn’t mean it has to fall to the ground; it can float in the air.

    4). I once had a science teacher that kept saying "chips are bad for you because of fat". Today, there is a difference between "transfat", "saturated fat", and "unsaturated fat." I had another teacher that said "pizza is bad for you." No, actually most cereal is worse. Pizza has dairy, meat, and bread. Cereal has a lot of food coloring and sugar.
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's wrong. If they can be broken, they aren't laws.
     
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  5. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    This doesnt add up.
     
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  7. Gremmie "Happiness is a warm gun" Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with you 99.9%...

    But, there's still that .0000000000001% that isn't sure..

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  8. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Pure woo-woo. This thread should be in Pseudoscience. You have just established yourself as someone whom we can't trust and therefore doesn't belong here. Congratulations.
     
  9. serenesam Registered Senior Member

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    Well, why don't you move it there then?

    The category says "free thoughts".
     
  10. serenesam Registered Senior Member

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    Will you be the only moderator making the decision? Not that it matters anyway because I can already connect with a lot of people in these forums:

    http://camelotforum.com/
    http://indigosociety.com/
    http://lightworkers.org/forum
    http://psychology-forum.com/index.php
    http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=1905
    http://intjforum.com/

    If you are the only moderator to make that decision, then your forum seriously needs some "checks and balances."

    By the way, I post the same thing at multiple forums and I got some really "scholarly" responses. You should go check them out - the username is still serenesam with the same avatar and signature too.

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  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    This isn't my board. I'm the Moderator of Linguistics and Arts & Culture.
    Certainly not when the offense occurs on somebody else's board. In any case we don't permaban a member without a meeting of the Elders' Council, except in the worst cases like commercial spammers, posting of pornography, etc.

    Hmmm... I just noticed that this board actually does grant me Moderator privileges. I guess the Moderator left us. But no, I'm not going to dive in and start with the draconian tactics. I just hope you'll remember that the scientific method is to be respected here at all times, or at least not flouted except in jest. If you make an extraordinary assertion, according to the Rule of Laplace you must accompany it with extraordinary evidence.

    The underlying principle of all science, which has withstood aggressive peer review for half a millennium, is that the natural universe is a closed system whose behavior can be predicted by theories derived logically from empirical obseration of its past and present behavior. To contradict that principle, by assuming the existence of supernatural forces that whimsically and illogically intefere with the behavior of the natural universe, is the granddaddy of all extraordinary assertions.

    In accordance with the principle of peer review, your assertion has hereby been challenged. You are now required to provide some very good evidence to support it--something that better minds than ours have failed to do for five hundred years. Unless you can surprise us by doing that, you are forbidden to raise this point again, anywhere on SciForums, for the rest of your life.
     
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  12. serenesam Registered Senior Member

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    I still don't understand why it hasn't been moved to the pseudoscience section. Sure it lacks evidence but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You can see telekinesis at work and an object does not have to fall to the ground:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telekinesis
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenon_(TV_series)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalist

    By definition -"Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Didn't Houdini debunk that stuff already?
     
  14. dbnp48 Q.E.D. Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, among others. Not that that deters the true believers.
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Telekinesis seems to be a textbook example of pseudoscience, it lacks supporting evidence, plausibility, and cannot be reliably tested.
     
  16. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Cesspool.
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    serenesam:

    Your calculator is only accurate to a set number of decimal places. If you're worried by that, then use an unlimited-precision calculator instead.

    No mathematician would ever say that 0.0000000000000000001 equals zero.

    What's this "Combined Consciousness" you speak of? Which scientific journal can I read to learn about the Combined Consciousness?

    No. That has never ever happened anywhere. Unless the item in question is a helium-filled balloon or a helicopter or something.

    There's no reliable scientific evidence for telekinesis. Or do you think you have some?
     
  18. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    James, I'd just like to point out something: you'll get no meaningful response from that poster. Well over 90% of what he has ever posted here clearly demonstrates that he is nothing but a crank, woo-woo, and quite possibly a pathological liar.

    He adds absolutely nothing as a member of this of this community except confusion and discord. Several people, including myself, have challenged his nonsense and either received some whimsical response that hardly addressed the issue - or no response at all.
     
  19. jmpet Valued Senior Member

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    My biggest beef with serenesam is his putting up links to everything. We all know how to surf the net and we all know about Wikipedia.

    I just think he is trying too hard in this forum.
     
  20. Stoniphi obscurely fossiliferous Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. True fruitcake, pure and simple. Not even funny.

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  21. jmpet Valued Senior Member

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    I remember when I first started posting here and pissed off everyone with my half-baked theory on black holes. I was quickly educated by you guys and ran away with my tail between my legs.

    I don't think we should be scaring people away from this forum unless they're just flamers and he does not appear to be one.

    What makes this forum so cool is that most people here are well educated and you can expect to get a decent response to your ideas and theories. Other forums are so full of hot air I leave them up at night just to help heat the house.
     
  22. serenesam Registered Senior Member

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    No math professor I had would ever say that. However, I did have an elementary teacher that did say that just like most elementary history teachers lie about a lot of things in history particularly the violent stuff we did to Native Americans. Also, the title of my original post has the word "teachers" in it and not "professors."

    A combined consciousness may be defined as a group of people performing telekinesis.

    I did not post this on the science thread but rather on the free random thoughts thread. I believe I have a right to share random thoughts no matter how silly it may be because I am not attempting to challenge scientific reality. If I were, I would have put this on the science thread or a formal debate thread.

    I believe some people can perform telekinesis but they're not gonna come out because of the potential crucification by cynics.

    Also, the reality show "Phenomenon" did have people who were able to manipulate the thoughts of strangers from the audience. It was recorded live on national television. Many people get confused between a magician and a mentalist - they are not the same thing.
     
  23. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    the element you are missing is the ones who have the same questions but know better than to ask, but still need an answer..it is not that critical (IMO) to convince the poster he is wrong, it is more critical to post accurate info for those who are afraid to ask the dumb questions..
     

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