A few hard questions

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by darksidZz, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    1. If someone were to send you naked pictures of under-age girls in the mail, would it mean you are a paedophile because you saw them? What do you think the police would do? How about if someone sent you them, then later police showed up claiming you had been reported?

    2. Is ignorance of any law an excuse? I mean really? Because if someone you don't know passes a law you aren't even made aware of how then can you be held accountable for that law? Seems abit unfair and really in violation of our freedoms to expect people to know laws they had no involvement with passing.

    3. Are speeding laws fair or rather just to get money for their states? After-all I suspect police speed while not in pursuit and even if only for 20 seconds it would be enough to ticket us for speeding. Would you support the idea of speed monitors in cars that would know if you exceed the limit because of transmission towers along roadways and automatically issue a fine?

    4. If someone is saying they've been raped and the rape kit turns up nothing whatsoever do you still think they should be acknowledged as a rape victim, or would you have your doubts? I ask because one such case of a man being charged and sent to jail for 4 years then his woman confessing it was a lie (wasn't even his female either just random girl).

    5. Do you trust men or women more?

    6. What if Microsoft Windows never existed? would there have been an Internet revolution like today or do you think it would've never happened?

    7. Does technology find limitation due to patents for specific things? In other words is the current tech limited because we cannot simply take existing tech, refine it, etc. without patents? What if we could just do anything we liked to patented designs? How would technology change? I ask this because I have a vision where aliens would not even be understanding RIGHTS to designs and merely want to build the best tech, which might give them huge advantages over humanity not just for a moment but all time.

    8. What is the worst film you've seen in your entire life?

    9. Do you have a chronic disease and if so what is it?
     
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  3. mugwump Registered Member

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    Receiving and viewing something that was not sought does not make one a connoisseur of such. As to the second question, I'm not sure. In reference to the third, I have a feeling that it is very believable that such an occurrence is likely these days and that no matter how innocent one may be, one would probably spend quite a while in prison before they were able to prove it (if ever). Guilty until proven innocent. That is what we are now.

    Last year I would have said no to the first. Now, I am not so sure. I just moved to a new state and if I hadn't taken hours of my time to research the different traffic, etc. laws, I would have had no warning that here cell phones without headsets are illegal while driving. Unless we remain proactive because we fear ignorance will not be allowed as an excuse, there is no way most of us would ever know about many of the laws that we are expected to abide by. There are just too many.

    Where I come from, more accidents occurred during traffic whilst vehicles were moving at less than 10 miles an hour. Speeding is also not what kills--it is the driver and his inability to realize his limits. So far, I have also not witnessed a single ticket that was fairly counted, point wise. The miles over in my experience have always been nudged upwards by the officer in order to place the driver in a higher point bracket, thus raising the fine. I don't trust the system..especially since it was well known in our area that the last week of the month was when the roads were most heavily patrolled and tickets were handed out left and right. Gotta get that quota in...

    Once again, innocent until proven guilty. Yes, that might mean some criminals go free. But it would also guarantee that the innocent are not convicted either.

    Men. I would like think I am unbiased and that I trust only those who are trustworthy, regardless of sex..but so be it.


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  5. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    10. If you're in your vehicle and make a right turn when suddenly a pedestrian has walked onto the street, are you at fault or not? Better yet how do you think you'd be treated by the police after hitting them? Say you cannot see because a building is in the way and you turn right bam right into someone that was crossing?
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    1. I would not worry because your email has the return address of everyone who sends you stuff so as long as you were sent it from someone you've never had contact before with then you should be safe....but get a lawyer anyway.

    2. If you claim ignorance then you will be screwed.

    3. No, because there are times that I need to speed up to pass someone or avoid a colision.

    4. I'd get another attorney to handle my appeal to get that case thrown out and overturned. The State should release that man if they found the woman had lied.

    5. Neither, they both become verey good liars as life goes by.

    6. It would still have taken place anyway.

    7. You can make anything you want to without a patent just be sure that there is no patent for what you invent before you sell it or you will be in a world of problems. If you do invent anything you really should patent it but again you don't have to.

    8. Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

    9. I have taxaphobia.

    10. You are not at fault, the jaywalker is but you should always avoid hitting anyone if at all possible.
     
  8. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I meant in the physical mail, they send an album or something of nude underage girls and suddenly the same day police come to your door saying they were informed by anonymous person you have child porn.

    Also what I mean by laws for patents, well, imagine if you could just take other things people invented and improve on them making them better without regard for laws of who owns what. If you could do that I believe technology would have taken leaps and bounds ahead of where it is today because now we are limited to laws as how we invent. Besides nobody really owns things they invent, I would so love to find a back history in windows that makes their NAME windows illegal LOL would be cool to fuck'm over...... anyway
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    If that happened I'd say that you were set up by the police or someone you know who doesn't like you. Just get a lawyer and they can prove you didn't send away for the stuff. Usually though people in that type of business want to make money and only will send pictures if you PAY for them so they must have a check to provide the police to prove that you actually ordered it and not someone else.



    You can make improvements on anything that already has a patent and get a new patent for your invention as long as your new invention shows that it is using something totally different than what was used in the patent you are improving upon. Say that you use a laser instead of a saw blade to cut things up with. That is totally new and can get a new patent and not infringe upon the ols way of a saw blade.
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    No.

    How would they know?

    I'd tell them about the someone who sent them.

    There is discretion at every stage of the criminal justice system (which I assume is what you're talking about). Police can choose not to charge you. Prosecutors can choose not to bring a charge to court. The court can choose to give you a mild sentence if you are convicted.

    Speeding laws demonstrably reduce fatalities and serious injury on the roads.

    Speed cameras are already used in lots of places, and they work similarly. Mostly, the people who complain are the ones who are always making voluntary contributions to state revenue.

    It depends on how reliable rape kits are. Do you know?

    The sex of a person is generally not a good indicator of their trustworthiness.

    The internet existed long before Windows or anything like it existed. If MS Windows didn't exist, similar interfaces would surely exist. Windows was not the first GUI by any means.

    if you refine an existing design such that you have a novel design of your own, then you can get your own patent. Patent law only prevents you from stealing other people's inventions.

    Hmmm... difficult. The worst films tend to be just totally forgettable and boring. Some films are so bad they are great. If you ever get the opportunity, watch the Italian film "Nude for Satan". It's really really bad in so many ways that it's fantastic!

    That's a private matter.
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    In general I agree with James's answers. I would add:
    • If you receive a package of contraband in the mail or by a freight service, the best thing to do is call the police immediately and tell them. The sooner they find out, the easier it will be for them to find who did it. Your proactive attitude will help you stay on the right side of the law.
    • In the USA, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" is an enforced legal doctrine. We're all expected to know the laws, otherwise how can we be good citizens and obey them?
    • In the USA, most traffic laws exist primarily for the purpose of generating revenue. Lately radar-camera combinations have come into vogue. They send you a photo of your car and the radar-clocked speed with a bill. Since they don't know who was driving, it has no effect on your DMV record or your insurance. If it was your son then it's up to you to get the money out of him, but you're responsible for paying. In addition, in most jurisdictions the fine is very low (here in Maryland it's only $40) so it's not worth arguing over. They do the same thing with red lights, although the fine for that is $75. Since they don't have to pay a cop's salary to arrest you, they're making a fortune. In DC it's a real gouger, $200 for speeding, and they put the cameras on roads where the speed limits are ridiculously low. In Maryland they have to put a sign up at both ends of the road saying "photo enforced speed limit," because they actually do want you to slow down rather than enrich the county treasury.
    • The reliability of a rape kit attenuates fairly rapidly as time passes.
    • Whether I would trust a man or a woman more varies depending on the type of situation.
    • The prototype network that eventually grew into the internet first became operational in the 1970s. All of the big corporate and government servers that connect to the internet use Unix, not Windows.
    • I have been plagued with respiratory allergy problems since my parents moved us to the fucking desert in 1952 and I was assaulted by all the pollen and other irritants from all over the world that float freely in the dry air. About fifteen years ago it turned into asthma, which was originally seasonal but this year the two seasons merged into each other.
     
  12. Psyche Registered Senior Member

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    Question 1: No. If your power to act is akin to that of a man in a coma you can not be held responsible. Your alleged guilt would exist solely as a delusion in the brains of the crack policing team responsible for tracking down and apprehending you.
    Question 2: The “law” is a fraud-concept peddled by a sophisticated class of con-artists who call themselves “judges”, and “law enforcement”, and “politicians” in order to expropriate from and control, “citizens”. These are thought-terminating clichés designed to subliminally administer fixed mental habits of subjugation in the populace. Ignorance of the law? The law is just somebody's opinion unilaterally imposed with a gun. That's not to say there aren't a lot of good principles mixed in with the “law”, but that's how evil works. By hijacking virtue. One is never culpable to the “law”, but one ought to play the game contentiously. They can pretty much get away with anything these days.
    Question 3: Ahh! This shouldn't even be an issue. It's the twenty-first century, where the hell is my flying Delorian?
    Question 4: I'd defer to Fraggle Rocker on this.
    Question 5: This is the same hegelian dialectic trip the news stupifies us with. Trustworthiness is gender neutral.
    Question 6: What if Paul really is dead?
    Question 7: I vote nay on intellectual property rights. Nobody can hold a monopoly on information. Once it exists in your brain, or in the form of a product in your possession, it's fair game. Of course, there is no shortage of moochers who will ride the coattails of their betters with relatively little accomplishment of their own. Reality dictates the terms of ownership, and no amount of paper work, or even justified indignation, can overturn it.
    Question 8: Left Behind.
    Question 9: Atheism. According to some people.
     
  13. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    You can patent your own improvements on other people's patented inventions, if your improvement is useful and non-obvious. If I patent the chair and then you improve my chair by inventing a clever mechanism for adjusting the chair's height, you can patent your chair with an adjustable height. Thus the patent system provides an incentive for people to improve the inventions of others.
    A better example might be: I patent using a saw to cut things up, and you patent using a saw with silicon-carbide teeth to cut things up.
    Patents prevent a monopoly on information. Patents reward inventors with a time-limited monopoly on the right to make or sell physical things, in exchange for making the information about how to make them free to the world. If there was no intellectual property, a great many things that are commonly known today would be trade secrets locked away in corporate vaults. See, for example, the secret formula for Coke. THAT is an information monopoly, and one that only exists because Coke isn't patented.
     
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