Why Have Americans Become So Afraid Of Socialist Politics?

Many Americans, on the right and left, are blantely afraid and arrogent of Socialism. Most don't even know the correct meaning of the idealogy, and assosiate it with Stalin or the USSR.
Socialism isnt a bad thing, and in my opionion (being a Communist) we need to enforce and embrace Social policies in the US. But not State-Socialism (the idea that government and the state is the means of distrubiting the wealth) or Hierarchtic-Socialism but rather Libertarian-Socialism (or in a less accepted term Anarchist Econamics)
People taking care of people instead of a dog eat dog world sounds a lot better to me

 

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It's clear that Capitalism bring nothing but extortion, competition, and poverty aswell as opression for the working class.

 

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And it also brings plenty of money to bear against the threat of socialism, which would rob a monied elite of their profits.

 

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It is a very difficult thing to be able to administer correctly just what

socialists want to achieve for themselves. They seem to want to help

everyone without remembering where money actually comes from. If everyone

were to be on a socialists "payroll" it usually leads to a power hungry elite

telling everyone just how things are going to be done. As opposed to a

capitalist trying only to convince the public how they can manipulate them

into doing what needs be done to insure a stable economy and growth for the

elite as well as the public at large. In both instances neither seem to be a

perfect way to control the public but under capitalism you can at least vote

out those you think are doing wrong. Socialism , on the other hand , only

gives you another socialist to deal with like the ones before them, they are in

essence all the same in their viewpoint.

So no matter which way you choose, you lose!

 

Communism can be as misused as Capitalism, For instance lets say you want to learn about a particular medical disease or disorder, in a communist environment you wouldn't have to pay a test subject, in fact all patrons to your country would all be willing volunteers, this means you wouldn't have to worry about ethics, or health and safety, or even if your particular subject has enough food in their belly or a roof over their head.

That's where Socialism fails, when individuals can not make decisions for themselves because the state has already dictated how they should live with such propaganda captions as "For the need of the many" etc.

Socialism doesn't work unless you have like minded people happy to subscribe to the notion that they are Lemmings compared to whoever is put in charge.

To this date in time, every type of government that has been transpired has eventually failed under it's own mismanagement. (Usually caused by bandaids being applied to bandaids, while the country itself reels from a mortal wounds.)

No governments have attempt to "Scratchpad" as of yet, where they turn around and say "well it's completely broke, lets build from scratch", until that time we are just going to be left with arguments about failures rather than methods to make sure things don't get broken enough to require fixing.

 

Because people want the chance to become really rich which in theory Socialism would limit. On the other hand most people never become really rich they just end up in a lot of debt.

 

The problem is that many of these buzz words thrown around dont exist in reality. And really we have to accept human nature for what it is and after all nothing is stopping you from living a socialist lifestyle where you give away most of your money to the poor BUT do you? I seriously doubt it. In fact anyone who would want these systems can lead by example but do they? Not from what i have seen.

So then all you do is change the faces and the names and you end up with something much worse. Instead of the smarter segments of a society running things you get the not so smart people. I would be willing to believe these things can work if i actually were aware of them working anywhere.

 

How can an anarchist tell us that we need to enforce certain political values?

 

It's true capitalism doesn't work, or at least not the way the framers wanted this thing to work out, but socialism isn't much of a better deal. It takes away far too many liberties and rights as far as property and ownership goes. MINE. NOT OURS. MINE.


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Because they don't really know what it means.

 

Small Business for the win. Smart Mixed economy that supports and champions the small Business.

 

Political maybe was not the right term. Social values. Since Anarchy is also called Liberaltarian-Socialism, it fits.

 

socialism with capitalism would work best. jobs that are necessary should be paid well no matter how lofty or humble it is. everything else would be more capitalist with some rules/regulations just like applied with everything else. that said, those into research and with higher education should be paid well too.

the problem with capitalism is it doesn't differentiate between necessity vs non essential so there is no firm and strong base to work from. it tends to disrupt it time and again.

 

But see, we can never have a 'little bit' of Capitalism. Capital consumes society if allowed. And Capitalism is based soley around that concept.

 

theoretically it could with the right regulations but that doesn't mean it's going to happen.

 

i believe in Anarchist-Communism. Community control of all resources, unlike State-Communism that hands all resources to the State, the problem with marxism and things like the USSR

 

Let's consider some examples:

So Americans by and large have no idea what socialist anything is - they aren't afraid of "socialist politics", they are afraid of whatever the corporate media wants them to fear this week,

which it happens to be pleased to label "socialist" often, as that code label has been imbued with the correct associations and conditioned response.

 

But the point was that you're still advocating that certain values be enforced. You can't enforce something without an enforcer - a figure of authority - which flies in the face of anarchy.

 

wherever did you get the notion from that socialism cannot and does not function in a democracy?

 

It can't, France is a myth.

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