Good bye Tea Party, Hello Coffee Party!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by joepistole, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Yet a new party is forming in The United States...the Coffee Party. Move over Tea Party a truely grass roots party has formed. Their goal is to reform government through rational discourse. It is the Anti-Tea Party.

    http://coffeepartyusa.com/

    "About Us
    Tue, 2010-02-23 17:43 — pcoughlin
    Coffee Party USA aims to reinvigorate the public sphere, drawing from diverse backgrounds and diverse perspectives, with the goal of expanding the influence of the People in America's political arena. We do not require nor adhere to any preexisting ideology. We encourage deliberation guided by reason amongst the many viewpoints held by our members. We see our diversity as a strength, not a weakness, because we believe that faithful deliberation from multiple vantage points is the best way to achieve the common good. It is in the responsible and reasonable practice of deliberation that we hope to contribute to society.

    Coffee Party USA is made up of people acting independently of political parties, of corporations, and of political lobbying networks. To this point, all products created and hours logged for Coffee Party have been carried out in the spirit of volunteerism. In the coming months and years, we hope to transform our disappointment in our current political system into a force that will return our nation to a course of popular governance, of the People by the People for the People.

    We are diverse — ethnically, geographically, politically, in age and in experience.

    We are 100% grassroots. No lobbyists here. No pundits. And no hyper-partisan strategists calling the shots in this movement. We are a spontaneous and collective expression of our desire to forge a culture of civic engagement that is solution-oriented, not blame-oriented.

    We demand a government that responds to the needs of the majority of its citizens as expressed by our votes and by our voices; NOT corporate interests as expressed by misleading advertisements and campaign contributions.

    We want a society in which democracy is treated as sacrosanct and ordinary citizens participate out of a sense of civic duty, civic pride, and a desire to contribute to society. The Coffee Party is a call to action. Our Founding Fathers and Mothers gave us an enduring gift — Democracy — and we must use it to meet the challenges that we face as a nation"


    I think it is high time the Coffee Partiers came to be! Hopefully this party will be the savior of American government and democracy.
     
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  3. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    They're no better; if I had to make a guess the only difference between Tea-Members and Coffee members... Coffee members are probably less likely to be married, more likely to support gay rights, stem cell research, abortion etc etc. You can hate one and love the other, but I think that might just mean you're a pundit.

    They all need hobbies, that includes you if you support them.
     
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  5. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    It seems more like an internet discussion forum than a political party.

    Many people can't put aside their partisanship for any reason, and most people probably won't compromise on their core values for the sake of "fixing" America. And let's face it; some things shouldn't be subject to compromise.

    I have a feeling that this will just draw like-minded people, which is no different than what we already have in our political arena.

    :shrug:
     
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  7. superstring01 Moderator

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  8. C-Moon Registered Senior Member

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    Um, not really

     
  9. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    You posted a lot of smut, but not much fact or truth. The founders of the Coffeee movement are diverse. Some did server as volunteers in Democratic campaigns. But some did the same for Republicans. So they truely are diverse as opposed to the Tea Party.

    Additionally there are no lobbyists or exlobbyists serving in the Coffee movement as opposed to Dick Army, ex congressman and current lobbyist, who also was instrumental in funding and organizing the Tea Baggers through Freedom Works an organization set to create organization like the Tea Baggers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Armey
     
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  10. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    What does being "diverse" matter? A party without any sort of relevant common values won't accomplish anything. See the Reform Party as an example.

    And what about C-Moon's post was untrue?
     
  11. C-Moon Registered Senior Member

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    That was a quote from the site. I didn't see where anyone there refuted it but if you can, why didn't you?

    I didn't see any civil discourse. I saw a lot of pointless vapor and a directionless "movement" that avoids taking a stance on anything.

    You were right about this:

    That appears to be the only mission.

    Too bad they can't try to work in conjunction with the Tea Party instead of using its hacks to spread more hatred, negativity and misconceptions.

    So have a latte and carry on. You will probably end up pushing the more rational among you in the direction of the Tea Party once they get a look at the partisan hackery and quackery on your site.

    I'll get my popcorn and watch for the entertainment value.
     
  12. stateofmind seeker of lies Valued Senior Member

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    Check out The Justice League - it's like this but no ideology and 100% practical. No political action through elections or representatives necessary. Everyone can contribute right away and requires no more effort than NOT putting your money certain places.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=336867537088
     
  13. C-Moon Registered Senior Member

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    I think it's their way of implying that the Tea Party is not diverse, which is a lie.
     
  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I was reading about this group. It sounds good. Anything to get the public involved in civic discourse is a good thing. And, they're not psychotic like the tea-party.
     
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  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed, you notice the Tea Party Brigades posting here are definately threatened. They have nothing positive to say about it. I find it truely telling when people are threatened by a civil rational discourse on public affairs.
     
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  16. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    No Joe, what America clearly needs is an Apathy Party.
     
  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think many people are already very apathetic.
     
  18. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Good. Then all we need to do is convince them to get off thier asses and join the Apathy Party.
     
  19. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    lol
     
  20. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't see any evidence of anyone feeling threatened. What "positive" remarks did you expect and why? I'm all for resolving problems through rational discourse if possible, but that hasn't happened in America for a long time (if it ever did at all) and I've seen nothing to indicate that the Coffee Partiers are the "chosen ones" who can change that.

    I think you're just a bit pissy that everyone wasn't so quick to jump to praise your anti-TEA Party post. Some of us even had the audacity to point out a few flaws with the Coffee crowd. But we get it, Joe. No person or organization that you like should ever be questioned for any reason.
     
  21. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    lol, I am glad you feel that way Cowboy.

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    Your side of the fence has never shown any affinity towards rational discourse. But should it occur, it would be very welcome. You cannot have rational discourse when one side is consistently reinventing the meaning of words (e.g. socialism) and making stuff up or repeating made up facts and representing them as truth.

    The future of the Coffee Party remains to be seen. It is a new movement. But the fact that the other side is so critical of this nasent organization speaks heavily of the fear it brings to those who would rather perpetuate the existing darkness in American politics.
     
  22. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    There are a lot of people across the political spectrum that aren't interested in rational discourse. The fact that you think that it's only non-liberals shows how blinded by partisanship you really are.

    Or maybe it speaks heavily of the flaws found in the Coffee Party? Either way, you never cease to entertain me with your fairy tale-esque view of politics. It's funny how much you hate Rush Limbaugh, since you're basically the liberal, SciForums version of him.
     
  23. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, that was good Cowboy. I am glad I entertain you. Hopefully maybe you will think about what I write one day. There is nothing fairytale about anything I write. Just because fact and reason are not on your side, does not mean that things are fairytale.

    As for limbaugh and myself, I would love to see the day when limbaugh was constrained to tell only the truth and nothing but the truth. In fact this very evening, I was thinking how great it would be to have all these politicos hooked up to a lie detector.
     

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