whats the go with anarchy? i kinda know what its about, but what do you guys think about it? i mean, each to their own, but i personally dont think lack of laws etc would make the world a better place. it would make it worse. if people dont have a fear of imprisonment or punishment, then whats going to stop them from breaking the law and doing detrimental things? nothing.
How about those police with guns, tear gas, billy clubs and other devices that prevent those that want anarchy to overrun those that don't. I'd think a bullet to a head would make anachists think a little before trying to go ahead with anything, don't you?
Anarchy would work fine, however in any given population there are a few assholes that love to tell others what to do, how to live, etc. Right now they work for the "governement" in some capacity. And there are other pathetics that are happy to follow their orders. The herd, the fucking slave class, the blood bag mindless drones capable only of reproduction and pretending to be "freee". In short, Anarchy would last a few short days, until a new pecking order is set up.
Well, think about it. Even college roommates set up some rules, don't they? And if they do, then even that ain't anarchy. Baron Max
Oh, no - not THIS tired, old, worn-out stuff again! Anyone who advocates anarchy needs his head examined for the extra holes where his brain leaked out. With no rules, no law and no enforcement of either, it's the ones with the biggest and most guns that run everything. Society would immediately degenerate into a tribal/warlord sort of thing like we already see in parts of the third world today. The strongest prey on the weak and the weak live in complete fear every single moment. And even the warlords and their followers aren't immune to their competitors who want what THEY have. A never-ending cycle of violence. That's hardly something a sane individual would wish for.
A tough question The superego, if we want to be Freudian about it. Education and intelligence, if we want to be utopian. The problem with Anarchism is its implementation. The absence of the state (e.g. coercive force) leaves people to get along for their own best interests. But it's like the time my former partner was out coking and drinking, and as the family discussed what to do about it, her mother complained that our daughter wasn't eating enough vegetables. People have different measures of what is important and why. For many, this is only a minor challenge. But for most, this is a big problem. Some, though, as you'll find even around our lovely Sciforums, think it's an excuse to antagonize. The Pitzer Anarchy Archives are a good resource. I recommend Emma Goldman, especially "Anarchism: What it Really Stands For".
Well, yes. That's why we haven't figured out democracy in this country, but that's no reason to quit trying.
the problem isn't people going without fear of punishment, the problem is people who need fear of punishment to be civil. if the only reason you don't stick a knife in anyone you disagree with is because you fear the repercussions then there is something wrong with you. so your problem is that people would be constantly challenging the bourgosie? i don't see how what you described is any different to the current situation other than that aspect.
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The only proper responsibility of the government should be to protect property rights and enforce laws and contracts, and to protect the citizens from outside threats.
Conservatism is a form of anarchy. It's basic premise is that the government should leave most things up to the people to decide and do for themselves. Anarchy means the people do everything for themselves. There may be no rules, but people voluntarily try to get along with each other. It's actually quite ahead of it's time. Someday people will have enough sense to govern themselves without a complex centralized system.
I doubt that. There's hierarchy in nature, from people right down to plants. Everything has and requires order. In other words, there won't come a time in human history when everyone will be intelligent enough and "progressive" enough to live their lives without a central authority that keeps them from killing, raping or stealing from and/or trying to bully or sway their neighbor. It just ain't going to happen...
anarchy is a paradox because there's supposed to be no laws, but anarchy has a law that says that laws are not allowed. the world as it is now is Real anarchy: we're so free that we can create laws to make us less free.
Oh come now, Yorda. That's just downright silly. "Anarchy" itself is simply a state or condition of relationships. "Anarchism" as a social-organizing notion is a more difficult sell than democracy and communism because in order for it to work, people have to be smart enough to make it work.
Well, that takes care of that issue .....if humans are involved, then it automatically means that most won't be smart enough to make it work! And in any system, it takes only a few to fuck up the fine work of many. Baron Max
