pjdude1219
05-30-07, 10:17 PM
if you came across a baby human and a wolf cub and only have food for one which would you feed?
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View Full Version : a moral question pjdude1219 05-30-07, 10:17 PM if you came across a baby human and a wolf cub and only have food for one which would you feed? draqon 05-30-07, 10:24 PM I am a human, I strive to have human species survive in this world. This isn't about kindness...this is about survival. Exploradora 05-30-07, 10:26 PM This is a silly question. Of course I would feed the child, no matter who was watching. redarmy11 05-30-07, 10:31 PM Because human life has an "inherently higher value" than that of other animals, I expect. Or some bullshit like that. I'd feed the wolf cub. I like wolf cubs. They're cute. pjdude1219 05-30-07, 10:33 PM oh my god some agrees with me on this S.A.M. 05-30-07, 10:33 PM I'd eat the food myself and feed the baby to the wolf cub pjdude1219 05-30-07, 10:35 PM now that is one of the best answers i have ever heard when i have asked that question S.A.M. 05-30-07, 10:36 PM Darn, its not an original? Anyway, I was kidding, no reason why I cannot feed them both a little and look for more food so all of us don't starve to death. IceAgeCivilizations 05-30-07, 10:38 PM Sam, it's not an Infidel baby. pjdude1219 05-30-07, 10:39 PM Darn, its not an original? no it is i just wish i thought of my self GeoffP 05-30-07, 10:40 PM Can't one eat a little of the baby and the wolf cub? redarmy11 05-30-07, 10:44 PM Darn, its not an original? Anyway, I was kidding, no reason why I cannot feed them both a little and look for more food so all of us don't starve to death. Yes, there is. All you have is a gobstopper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobstopper) and there's no other food around. Now stop being practical. (I can't believe Wikipedia has a page on gobstoppers. Some people just have waaay too much time on their hands..) S.A.M. 05-30-07, 10:46 PM Yes, there is. All you have is a gobstopper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobstopper) and there's no other food around. I'm very inventive, exactly what is around? Now stop being practical. Did that in the first response. Idoit. (I can't believe Wikipedia has a page on gobstoppers. Some people just have waaay too much time on their hands..) Just be glad those guys haven't found SF. redarmy11 05-30-07, 10:51 PM I'm very inventive, exactly what is around? Nothing. You're all floating freely in outer frickin' space. You're totally ruining the thread, by the way. Do you care? S.A.M. 05-30-07, 10:52 PM Nothing. You're all floating freely in outer frickin' space. You're totally ruining the thread, by the way. Do you care? Fine, eat the frigging cub and roast the frigging baby, for all I care.:mad: pjdude1219 05-30-07, 10:53 PM i think she is doing wonders for the thread redarmy11 05-30-07, 10:54 PM Thankyou, I will!! :mad: :mad: S.A.M. 05-30-07, 10:56 PM i think she is doing wonders for the thread Thank you, thank you Thankyou, I will!! Ha! I knew it!!! Frigging cannibal and animal murderer!@#@%$%^@%#^@#^%U@^#U&I@&#:mad: :mad: :mad: Baron Max 05-31-07, 07:58 AM What's the matter, Sam, are you losin' it over this silly-assed thread? If so, how do you feel about the thousands of babies that starve to death every single day in the world? Geez, you must be just livid with anger and hatred all the fuckin' time. Baron Max redarmy11 05-31-07, 08:00 AM Yeah!!! Oli 05-31-07, 08:00 AM Train the wolf to go to the shops for me. Get the baby adopted by someone who really wants a child. Easy. draqon 05-31-07, 08:00 AM Ha! I knew it!!! Frigging cannibal and animal murderer!@#@%$%^@%#^@#^%U@^#U&I@&#:mad: :mad: :mad: personal attacks are not tolerated here. James R., will see to this. sandy 05-31-07, 08:10 AM personal attacks are not tolerated here. James R., will see to this. Since when?:confused: I have been brutalized since I got here. I even get attacked by mods. The comments sat there for days. And many are still there.:( This is one of the stupidest threads I've seen here and there have been some real doozies in the past few days. draqon 05-31-07, 08:13 AM Since when?:confused: I have been brutalized since I got here. The comments sat there for days. And many are still there.:( This is one of the stupidest threads I've seen here and there have been some real doozies in the past few days. life is tough. Accept this reality. Face the consequences of the totalitarian regime. May there be peace within you. S.A.M. 05-31-07, 08:13 AM What's the matter, Sam, are you losin' it over this silly-assed thread? If so, how do you feel about the thousands of babies that starve to death every single day in the world? Geez, you must be just livid with anger and hatred all the fuckin' time. Baron Max Geez don't you have even the semblance of a sense of humor?:bawl: btw, how would you resolve this moral crisis of the baby vs the wolf cub? Yeah!!! Just you wait, Mr #%@%#$%$# Just you wait. Baron Max 05-31-07, 08:18 AM Geez don't you have even the semblance of a sense of humor? Nice try, Sam, but surely you don't expect people to believe that your tirade was just all in good humor, do you? Really? btw, how would you resolve this moral crisis of the baby vs the wolf cub? Well, I'd feed wolf cub, of course. There's billions and billions of fuckin' humans in the world, but only a very few wolves. I'd feel that it was my duty to the natural world to save the wolf cub to help prevent extinction of such a marvelous specie. Humans? They're a dime a dozen ...if that! Baron Max S.A.M. 05-31-07, 08:19 AM Nice try, Sam, but surely you don't expect people to believe that your tirade was just all in good humor, do you? Really? *sigh* I am undone. Well, I'd feed wolf cub, of course. There's billions and billions of fuckin' humans in the world, but only a very few wolves. I'd feel that it was my duty to the natural world to save the wolf cub to help prevent extinction of such a marvelous specie. Humans? They're a dime a dozen ...if that! Baron Max What if it was YOUR baby? Then what would you do?:) redarmy11 05-31-07, 08:31 AM A couple of people have said that this thread is stupid now. Well: maybe you're the stupid ones? This thread is in the subforum: Ethics, Morality & Justice. So let me restate the question for you: can any of you provide a rational ethical basis for the assumption that human life has an inherently higher value than that of other animals? Do our answers to this inevitably invoke an emotional response, based on simple pack loyalty? Are we just rationalising an unavoidable bias here? Imagine you've just arrived from a distant star system, with altruistic instincts, but knowing nothing of Earth's biological hierarchy. Now which one would you feed? darksidZz 05-31-07, 10:52 AM I'd eat the food myself and feed the baby to the wolf cub Brilliant! Marry me damn-it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anti-Flag 05-31-07, 10:55 AM So let me restate the question for you: can any of you provide a rational ethical basis for the assumption that human life has an inherently higher value than that of other animals? Do our answers to this inevitably invoke an emotional response, based on simple pack loyalty? Are we just rationalising an unavoidable bias here? We're all taught from a early age human life is more valuable because we're the highest life form on the planet. We're also more inclined so save our own species. It's rational in the sense that we're supposed to ensure the survival of our species first, though this doesn't take into account any varying circumstances. Imagine you've just arrived from a distant star system, with altruistic instincts, but knowing nothing of Earth's biological hierarchy. Now which one would you feed? I imagine you wouldn't, or you'd take a guess. Without the information to make a decision there is no alternative. Personally if it wasn't for the fact that the law probably encompasses not feeding the human baby with inadvertantly allowing it to die and being prosecutable then I'd refrain from feeding both without further information, especially as they are both likely to die anyway. darksidZz 05-31-07, 10:55 AM A couple of people have said that this thread is stupid now. Well: maybe you're the stupid ones? This thread is in the subforum: Ethics, Morality & Justice. So let me restate the question for you: can any of you provide a rational ethical basis for the assumption that human life has an inherently higher value than that of other animals? Do our answers to this inevitably invoke an emotional response, based on simple pack loyalty? Are we just rationalising an unavoidable bias here? Imagine you've just arrived from a distant star system, with altruistic instincts, but knowing nothing of Earth's biological hierarchy. Now which one would you feed? Soon there shall be a wolfuman, it will live and breathe, think, and build. We are nearing the end... Read-Only 05-31-07, 10:59 AM if you came across a baby human and a wolf cub and only have food for one which would you feed? This is the silliest, most innane question I've seen in some time! I'd divide the food between them and then get more for both.:bugeye: darksidZz 05-31-07, 10:59 AM We're all taught from a early age human life is more valuable because we're the highest life form on the planet. We're also more inclined so save our own species. It's rational in the sense that we're supposed to ensure the survival of our species first, though this doesn't take into account any varying circumstances. Actually friend I don't recall ever being specifically told "human life has the most value" or anything like it. All I remember is being in school, then having teachers or other people tell me we're valuable because we're children of GOD, or we're more important because we can reason... never at any time was I told we're more important because we are the highest lifeforms on the planet. Read-Only 05-31-07, 11:25 AM Actually friend I don't recall ever being specifically told "human life has the most value" or anything like it. All I remember is being in school, then having teachers or other people tell me we're valuable because we're children of GOD, or we're more important because we can reason... never at any time was I told we're more important because we are the highest lifeforms on the planet. Well, that explains it - you were attending animal obedience school! :D redarmy11 05-31-07, 11:40 AM This is the silliest, most innane question I've seen in some time! I'd divide the food between them and then get more for both.:bugeye: Why's it inane? Assume that there is only enough food for one (it's just a thought exercise - play along). Now justify your choice of feeding one or the other on an ethical basis. If you'd feed the human: why? If you'd feed the wolf: why? Sputnik 05-31-07, 12:17 PM We could rephrase the question : Do you want to support WWF or give your money to starving children in [insert name of poor 3.rd world country] .... Do you want to have a pet or use the money to help starving babies ..... I like animals - some wolfs are almost extinct - the Simien Wolf..only 500 left in the world ........ darksidZz 05-31-07, 12:34 PM I believe all 3rd world countries should be eliminated. Now the animals are what I want to survive for eons... muhahah Baron Max 05-31-07, 01:00 PM Why's it inane? Assume that there is only enough food for one (it's just a thought exercise - play along). Now justify your choice of feeding one or the other on an ethical basis. If you'd feed the human: why? If you'd feed the wolf: why? Hmm, was I the only one to give a logical reason for my choice? Baron Max redarmy11 05-31-07, 01:02 PM One of very few, Max. pjdude1219 05-31-07, 04:47 PM i would choose the wolf because i feel it has a much better chance at becoming a decent worthwhile being. I also feel that someone's answer to a question like this can tell you a lot about them. One of the fundemental ways of viewing a person is not how the treat the percieved equals but how they treat those percived to be less than or below themselves for it there where a persons' true veiws be gleaned Baron Max 05-31-07, 07:39 PM I also feel that someone's answer to a question like this can tell you a lot about them. One of the fundemental ways of viewing a person is not how the treat the percieved equals but how they treat those percived to be less than or below themselves for it there where a persons' true veiws be gleaned Only if they answer it truthfully. And in this place, truth is mostly like something that one throws out in the garbage!! I would guess, just a guess, mind you, that less than 25% of the people posting here are fully honest and truthful in their posts. Baron Max mountainhare 05-31-07, 07:44 PM I'd feed the wolf because I tend to find humans, especially babies, repugnant (I actually think it's rather offensive to describe humanity with a word that has 'pug' in it, but oh well). Added to which, the already raped Earth doesn't need another parasitic homo sapien. Enmos 11-06-07, 08:19 AM The wolf, then I would take the baby and deliver it at social services :) pjdude1219 11-06-07, 08:34 AM holy shit i totally forgot i started this thread Enmos 11-06-07, 08:36 AM holy shit i totally forgot i started this thread lol I dug it up ;) Nikelodeon 11-06-07, 08:36 AM Id feed the baby. Fuck wolves! francois 11-06-07, 08:50 AM I'd feed the baby. Why? Because it's a human being. Wolves, last time I checked, are not human beings. Granted, babies are pretty ugly. And smelly, and they cry a lot. Actually, I think I would feed the wolf. Nevermind. Enmos 11-06-07, 09:04 AM So you guys would feed the baby and then leave it to it's own devices again ? draqon 11-06-07, 10:34 AM A good way to make everyone satisfied is by, me feeding on wolf cub, wolf cub feeding on a baby, and baby feeding on food left. Grantywanty 11-06-07, 10:38 AM I notice that all answers assume that the category of the 'babies' is enough to choose an answer. greenberg 11-06-07, 11:05 AM ... Without including information about their health status and such? What if the question was - If you could only feed one, would you feed a healthy wolf baby or a sick human baby? Enmos 11-06-07, 11:24 AM ... Without including information about their health status and such? What if the question was - If you could only feed one, would you feed a healthy wolf baby or a sick human baby? Then I would feed the baby. But what if it was the other way around ? |