I don't know if there is any interest about a disscussion on World War Three that is going to happen, and it is not a matter if, but when?


How many WMDs are going to be use, and what will be the end result?




A friend - Paul

I can't wait.

i hope we wont get there.

Why?

I don't know if there is any interest about a disscussion on World War Three that is going to happen, and it is not a matter if, but when?


How many WMDs are going to be use, and what will be the end result?




A friend - Paul

the end result will be disastrous.

Why?

why? cause billions of people will die?!?!:eek:

why? cause billions of people will die?!?!:eek:Glad you are off my ignore list. I see there is hope for you yet.;)

You can join me in fighting silly posts.:)

Glad you are off my ignore list. I see there is hope for you yet.;)

You can join me in fighting silly posts.:)

you havent raised a sword yet on this thread...or do you think this thread is not silly?

Perhaps World War III is already going on ....and we don't recognize it for what it is? A world war does not necessarily mean shooting bullets and dropping bombs ...war can be fought with other instruments of conflict.

Think about it ....how many areas of the world are now, at this very moment, in conflict, armed or otherwise? My guess is that there are more people involved in such conflicts now, and in a wider area, than during World War II.

Baron Max

Perhaps World War III is already going on ....and we don't recognize it for what it is? A world war does not necessarily mean shooting bullets and dropping bombs ...war can be fought with other instruments of conflict.

Think about it ....how many areas of the world are now, at this very moment, in conflict, armed or otherwise? My guess is that there are more people involved in such conflicts now, and in a wider area, than during World War II.

Baron Max

WWIII all they want...as long as I am not around.

WWIII all they want...as long as I am not around.

Aren't there some conflicts going on in Michigan? In Ann Arbor?

Baron Max

Aren't there some conflicts going on in Michigan? In Ann Arbor?

Baron Max

nope. peaceful. only some football fans causing load of anomalies.

nope. peaceful. only some football fans causing load of anomalies.

In all of Michigan, there ain't no conflicts? None? No crime, no drug dealers, no racial conflicts, no special interest groups, no anti-abortion/pro-abortion groups, ....., no conflicts, huh? Nice place, that Michigan! :D

Baron Max

In all of Michigan, there ain't no conflicts? None? No crime, no drug dealers, no racial conflicts, no special interest groups, no anti-abortion/pro-abortion groups, ....., no conflicts, huh? Nice place, that Michigan! :D

Baron Max

Detroit doesn't count. and fanatics of abortion...special interest groups...those are dealt with according to the law.

....and fanatics of abortion...special interest groups...those are dealt with according to the law.

And everyone in those groups obeys the laws to the letter, never causing even the slightest of conflicts, huh? Ooooh, I like that Michigan place! :D

Baron Max

And everyone in those groups obeys the laws to the letter, never causing even the slightest of conflicts, huh? Ooooh, I like that Michigan place! :D

Baron Max

like noone got problems

http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/8889/bladder/ba4-6.txt

Darling: Listen! Our guns have stopped.

George: You don't think...?

Baldrick: Maybe the war's over. Maybe it's peace!

George: Well, hurrah! The big knobs have gone round the table and yanked the iron out of the fire!

Darling: Thank God! We lived through it! The Great War: 1914-1917.

George: Hip hip!

All but Edmund: Hurray!

Edmund: (loading his revolver) I'm afraid not. The guns have stopped because we're about to attack. Not even our generals are mad enough to shell their own men. They think it's far more sporting to let the Germans do it.

In 1939, Democracy on a world scale was in a deplorable condition, The League of Nations, hadn't done a thing to stop the Fascist, Franco was in power in Spain, Mussolini, had taken Abyssinia, and Hitler was implemented Lebensraum in Austria and Czechoslovakia. Stalin was in the process of ruining the Soviet Union with purges, and trying to conquer Finland, and in the Far East, Japan occupied Korea and large portions of China.

Now lets look at today, starting 1991, we have been under attack, buy Islamic Extremist for almost a decade, Democracies are in a deplorable condition, and the (Latter Day League of Nations) the United Nations has failed to do a thing to stop any aggression, The Taliban after a bloody civil war is in power in Afghanistan, Saddam has tried the Lebensraum, move in Iran and Kuwait, we have Islamic terrorist attacking across the globe, from the U.S. to the Philippines, We have a mad Man in Iran ( Mahmood, Ahmadinezhad, Ahmadi-Nejad, Ahmadi Nejad, Ahmady Nejad) threatening to wipe the Jews from the face of the earth, we have rogue nations providing Nuclear know how to unstable nations and you ask when WWIII is going to happen? It already is, this is the Phony War, the build up to the full conflict, and we sit here worrying about being politically correct, and the rights of the terrorist enemy, look at history and replace the word NAZI with Moslem Radical, and it is repeating itself, and all the players are on stage and no one is willing to do what is needed, WWIII is here and there ride is going to be devastating.

why? cause billions of people will die?!?!:eek:
That's your emotions talking...there's nothing wrong with billions of people dying. If anything, such a population reduction would help the world.

That's your emotions talking...there's nothing wrong with billions of people dying. If anything, such a population reduction would help the world.

just one thing...you are one of those billions of people. How do you feel now about the help to the world?

just one thing...you are one of those billions of people. How do you feel now about the help to the world?

I feel good that my lost life will go towards the good of the world.

I feel good that my lost life will go towards the good of the world.

you feel good now...feeling all proud hero...

but when Pain comes and bends your body and makes you scream but with the mouth dry you will not be able to, and heat will slowly dry up your body, making every neuron send message of pain up to the spinal cord and into the brain...bringing images of suffering...how will you feel than?

you feel good now...feeling all proud hero...

but when Pain comes and bends your body and makes you scream but with the mouth dry you will not be able to, and heat will slowly dry up your body, making every neuron send message of pain up to the spinal cord and into the brain...bringing images of suffering...how will you feel than?

I'll feel indefferent.

I'll feel indefferent.

not when the moment will come.

not when the moment will come.

Just like Jesus...

Just like Jesus...

no proof that Jesus existed. Proof is: DNA of this Jesus.

no proof that Jesus existed. Proof is: DNA of this Jesus.

Take a blood sample, he is me. Where do you live? I'll mail you some hair...

Take a blood sample, he is me. Where do you live? I'll mail you some hair...

no proof that what you sent me is you or that Jesus DNA is part of your DNA.

no proof that what you sent me is you or that Jesus DNA is part of your DNA.

Not part. Jesus DNA is my DNA. However, you're right...no proof that what I sent you is my DNA.

All volunteers will be selected completely at random, that is the way of war.

Not part. Jesus DNA is my DNA. However, you're right...no proof that what I sent you is my DNA.

no proof either that Jesus DNA is your DNA. What you say means that you are Jesus. If you are Jesus...than according to beliefs without proof...you are second Jesus. Neither of the Jesuse's have proof of existence.

That's your emotions talking...there's nothing wrong with billions of people dying. If anything, such a population reduction would help the world.

if such a conflict would occur, i will be the one surviving, and you will be one of the dead, just so youl know.

if such a conflict would occur, i will be the one surviving, and you will be one of the dead, just so youl know.

what support of your superior adaptability do you have to make such a statement?

Glad you are off my ignore list. I see there is hope for you yet.;)

You can join me in fighting silly posts.:)

i tolled you in the past, im against wars, they are terrible thing. but, sometimes its not our say, and the other side who is eager for conflict force us into action. i just hope it wont come to that.

no proof either that Jesus DNA is your DNA. What you say means that you are Jesus. If you are Jesus...than according to beliefs without proof...you are second Jesus. Neither of the Jesuse's have proof of existence.
Are you telling me that's not my name?

what support of your superior adaptability do you have to make such a statement?

when i will live to tell, that will be the proof.

if such a conflict would occur, i will be the one surviving, and you will be one of the dead, just so youl know.

I'd have to disagree.

Are you telling me that's not my name?

1) if your name is Jesus and that is all. You have nothing else to do with the real Jesus of Nazareth...to which I was referencing to as a belief without proof

2) if you are saying you are the Jesus of Nazareth...than what proof is there for such statement?

A 'one child policy' is a better way to reduce population :)

when i will live to tell, that will be the proof.

So in an argument of which screwdriver to pick to do the job, the support you bring up for your pick of screwdriver is that it will work.? The statement is illogical. For something to have a support to achieve a goal in the future, a reference to something before the event occurs must be made...reference to characteristics.

A 'one child policy' is a better way to reduce population :)

so population in China is up to job?

So in an argument of which screwdriver to pick to do the job, the support you bring up for your pick of screwdriver is that it will work.? The statement is illogical. For something to have a support to achieve a goal in the future, a reference to something before the event occurs must be made...reference to characteristics.

an atomic shelter and an above average iq is enough evidence?

an atomic shelter and an above average iq is enough evidence?

yes

i tolled you in the past, im against wars, they are terrible thing. but, sometimes its not our say, and the other side who is eager for conflict force us into action. i just hope it wont come to that.We are in agreement here. See my post:
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1264183&postcount=67
After saying eduation could do more for the betterment of mankind in the first paragraph, the second paragraph begins:
"However, I agree, bombs and bullets have their place and can be very useful. I spent a few years using my education to make the HARM missile better..."
Third paragraph begins:
"Despite my generally thinking war is usually a very bad solution, sometimes it will happen and sometimes it is the only solution. ..."

Remainder is mostly more of the same.

We are in agreement here. See my post:
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1264183&postcount=67
After saying eduation could do more for the betterment of mankind in the first paragraph, the second paragraph begins:
"However, I agree, bombs and bullets have their place and can be very useful. I spent a few years using my education to make the HARM missile better..."

nice to know we agree on something :)

nice to know we agree on something :)Were you here at sciforum when I was pushing my alternative solution to Israel's defensive needs? If not, I will try to dig them up for you or Buffalo may know where they are.

I wonder what your reaction to my plan would be. I think it would save money and some Israeli lives and many Palestinian lives, possibly eventually leading to peaceful co-existence as is likely to enlists the help of the Palestinians who are not “war crazy” and just want to live with honor and security.

i dont know billy t, if your media is broadcasting the scenes from the civil war in gaza, but if they do i doubt you will stay optimistic. i was optimistic once, in the past.but if you will go and ask the rabi, he will tell you its not the arabs we are fighting, but its god, and we all should "lahzor betshuva"-return to Judaism.

In order for it to be a World War, at least two of the large nations with the large military forces (and the nukes) will have to be fighting, and on opposite sides. Who's that going to be? China, Russia, the E.U.--none of those countries are going to make the first move to overt war.

The U.S.? Sure. We have developed a habit of putting idiots in the White House and pussies in Congress and on the Supreme Court, so the idiots in the White House can get away with whatever they want.

But we'll have to attack a country that one of those other superpowers is sworn to defend. Duh? The only one that we're really out of step with is China, and I don't really see us attacking one of China's proteges. China would not like it if we attack North Korea--not because they give a damn about North Korea but strictly because they don't want millions of North Korean refugees streaming over the border into their territory. Because they don't want that to happen, they will keep a lid on North Korea themselves and we won't have to bother attacking it.

So what else are we going to do that will draw China, the EU, Russia--or even India, a large country with nukes--into a World War? We can stomp all over Somalia and probably invade Iran without getting those big powerful countries to go to war.

Perhaps we could invade one of Russia's new little petro-puppets in central Asia like Uzbekistan. That would be pathetic. We made it through the Cold War without getting into it with the USSR but now that it's over we're going to get into it with Russia? Talk about ignominious fate.

What if Iran really nukes Israel? Americans have an irrational love of Israel and a not entirely irrational hatred of Iran--we still haven't forgiven them for that little matter of seizing our embassy 30 years ago. We would probably reduce the country to a glowing pile of cinders within two hours. I don't think anybody in Europe, Russia, China, or India is going to get mad at us for doing that as long as the wind doesn't blow the fallout in their direction. Geeze, would anybody miss Iran except Hezbollah and the people who early registered for the next Holocaust Denial Festival?

What else is going to happen? Terrorism will continue, but terrorism doesn't kill more than a few thousand people a year. Nobody's going to start a World War over that. We'll keep invading little countries that can't fight back and claim that they're responsible for 9/11. Maybe one of those little countries will nuke an American city by shipping it in a cargo container. So we'll just pick another one at random and reduce it to a pile of glowing cinders. That's still not going to get Europe, China, India, or Russia into a World War.

The Muslim tribes will keep trying to kill each other off. A few hundred thousand in Sudan, a few hundred thousand in Somalia, maybe they'll get into it in Bangla Desh or the Philippines. So far the rest of the world acts like they can't even get those countries on their TV. I saw a lady with a "Save Darfur" t-shirt and asked her what I could do to help. She said she didn't know, she just sends money to George Clooney and Angelina Jolie because at least they talk about Darfur and American TV always follow those two around because they're photogenic.

Pakistan has nukes, Israel has nukes, North Korea has nukes. Those are the wild cards. North Korea is the wildest and it apparently has no delivery system. If Israel starts a war it will be in the Middle East and the U.S. is the only big country that will send troops. Pakistan isn't going to attack anybody, they just want to be the Sweden of the Middle East and make money off of everybody.

If we can avoid invading an oilfield that the Russians regard as one of theirs, I don't see the conditions for a World War.

Geeze, would anybody miss Iran except Hezbollah and the people who early registered for the next Holocaust Denial Festival?

The large Iranian diaspora. And I don't think the majority of Iran's population appreciates the image Ahmadinejad's garnered for them...

Perhaps we could invade one of Russia's new little petro-puppets in central Asia like Uzbekistan. That would be pathetic. We made it through the Cold War without getting into it with the USSR but now that it's over we're going to get into it with Russia? Talk about ignominious fate.


not long ago the puppet was controlled by US mil installations.

Well if its going to be a conventional war, then hopefully the media will stay away. Me thinks that the current "pussy" leash of political correctness will backfire and someone will end up getting nuked.

i dont know billy t, if your media is broadcasting the scenes from the civil war in gaza, but if they do i doubt you will stay optimistic. i was optimistic once, in the past.but if you will go and ask the rabi, he will tell you its not the arabs we are fighting, but its god, and we all should "lahzor betshuva"-return to Judaism.You did not make it clear if you had read my alternative proposal for defense of Israel or not. (To refresh your memory, it had dogs in border strip about 20 meters wide without mines and an adjoining strip about 80 meters wide with mines and acoustic sensor that also reported any tunneling, plus CIWS to shoot down any of the crude, slow rockets launched into Israel border villages.

Also I recommended that nation wide air trafic control be in stalled with two purposes: (1)Israeli fighters shoot down any drone and force to land any plane big enough to carry a human that is not on its flight plan. (2)back compute the launch site of any rocket launched into Israel from the radar data on it rise trajectory. (The CIWS only blows them up near or slightly after the peak altitude). Then as rapidly as possible use artillery to pound the launch site enough to be sure any living thing at near that location is "shredded." However, all of the current random shelling of Palestine is stopped. Initially this counter battery fire will not be very prompt and thus not likely to kill the "bad guys," but the mobile artillery Israel already has can also be given local radar to also "back compute" and occasionally put the "shredding return fire" on the bad guys. This mobile artillery roams near the border and is aided by camera drone airplanes to see the Bad Guys setting up. If Israel only fires artillery into Palestine when there is a clear link to specific rocket launch, soon some of the people living near where they are setting up may at least try to stop them or at best call a border post to tell where, etc. I.e. they will quickly learn that their children and homes will not be hit if they can force the bad guys to set up the launchers somewhere else. etc.

In set of original posts, I gave many more implementation details but this should be enough for you to react to. I think it an outrage that sometimes a crude rocket kills an Israeli when 30 year old CIWS technology can prevent that. I am forced to conclude that some Israelis want an excuse to kill Palestinians with the current 25 to one ratio. I.e. the “war crazies” are not exclusively found on the Palestinian side of this conflict.