Check out this movie, which shows 30 giant hornet wasps taking out 30,000 bees.

Totally amazing.

http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/magazine/pursuit/200301/movie/movie_mp_b.html

I saw many dead hornets as well but also saw many living honey bees.

:( i can only get the audio track

I got two words of speech and a couple of frames every 5 minutes, so gave up. Then again, I am on dial-up.

so am i

That video is amazing.

Whoa, I was not aware that such happened. 30 hornets destroying a bee hive of 30,000 bees in three hours and then plundering the hive mainly for pupae and larvae. Pretty amazing. Maybe we could draft the hornets into fighting the Africanized killer bees.

That clip is the most depressing thing I have ever seen in my life! Those poor little babies...::sniff::

i can only get the audio trackInstall a codec pack, like K-Lite Mega Codec Pack (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Mega_Codec_Pack.htm)
Also, if you have a slow connection, try simply downloading it and then playing it. I think the link is http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/magazine/pursuit/200301/movie/m01_hi.asx (don't bother clicking, they're using referrer blocking). Try right click, save as...

sad, I once read a repot about some asain(?) bee species that will immediately form a ball of bees around a hornet and buzz like crazy, the heat they produce will cock the hornets alive killing them, the bees them self’s can withstand the temperatures.

Oh here I found it:
http://www.muenster.org/hornissenschutz/manda.htm
The Japanese giant hornet, Vespa mandarinia japonica, preys on other species of bees and wasps. When a solitary hunter finds a nest, it marks it with a secretion from its van der Vecht gland. Other hornets in the area congregate to the area, and they begin a mass attack on the colony. While they are efficient at wiping out hives of the introduced European honeybee Apis mellifera (they are killed at rates as high as 40 per minute), the native Japanese honeybee, Apis cerana japonica, has an interesting defense against the predatory hornet! The Japanese honeybees can detect the hornet's secretion, and attack incoming hornets en masse. With approximately 500 honeybees surrounding the hornet in a tight ball, the temperature within the cluster rises to 47º C (117º F), which is above the upper lethal limit range of 44-46 degrees for the hornet. This temperature is too high for the hornet, which quickly expires, but does not harm the honeybees.This temperature does not aversely affect the honeybees because their upper lethal limit is slightly higher, 48-50 degrees.

I wonder about Killers bees vs hornets, I searched on google all I could find was that African bees have a 1/250 ratio (250 bees to take down a hornet) while European bees have a 1/1000 ratio. Africanize bees are even meaner then there none hybridize African counterpart, I wonder what they can do.

Interesting. So, the hornet is a Japanese hornet? In my home town, a friend of mine was maintenance man at an apartment complex. They were briefly plagued by giant wasps. He says he sent one to a lab or something somewhere and they told him it was a Japanese Giant Hornet. Says they can reach up to 70 mph. And they can cause a bruise just be smacking into you. They didn't last long and the infestation was brief. Probably a lack of honeybees in the area to prey on.

So, the Japanese honeybee which evolved in tandem to the hornet has a defense, while european honeybees are defenseless. I wonder if the Japanese hornet is becoming a problem throughout the world? Are they spreading into new areas? My hometown is in the heartland of the United States, very far from Japan.

Crazy stuff. I bet there was a pissed off beekeeper at the end of the day. I wonder how much the camera crew had to pay to allow a productive hive to be slaughtered like that?

Also, if you have a slow connection, try simply downloading it and then playing it. I think the link is http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/magazine/pursuit/200301/movie/m01_hi.asx (don't bother clicking, they're using referrer blocking). Try right click, save as...
It just saves as a WMA playlist, which is 1kb. Anyway around that?

Don't you just love that dramatic music? It made you think you were watching "Glory" or something. Overall, a very interesting video.

Here's the address of the actual file. I'm not sure how to get it to download. Might need some kind of stream ripper.

mms://stream.eizodana.com/olympus/m01_hi.wmv

Here's the dial-up version: http://www.olympus.co.jp/en/magazine/pursuit/200301/movie/movie_mp_s.html

It's a lot smaller. About half the size. If you hit back on the page, there's a page with a description of the hornets.

Yeh, try this (http://stream.eizodana.com/olympus/m01_hi.wmv). <-- Right click, Save As...

Nope, doesn't work Alpha. I tried the same thing. Substituting http for mms but it didn't work. I don't have much knowledge in working with streams, so am unsure how to download it. I'm sure there's a stream ripper program. But, that probably depends on the stream coming in at the right speed. Don't know. There should be a way to not play the movie and allow it to catch up. Increase the buffer. But, when you pause Windows Media Player, it stops downloading. And if you open the stream in the real Windows Media Player, rather than in the web page, the save as option is grayed out. I'm guessing it's copy protection. What if you set another media player to open wmv instead of wms?

Did the dial-up version work better for you dial-uppers?

Works for me, but I don't have windows media player. I also happen to be on linux. :p
I had MPC (http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli/) set to open .wmv on my windows installation. Perhaps it will allow you to save.
I suggest you try a download manager like Getright (http://www.getright.com/). It should definitely allow you to save it.

Didn't work for me on dial-up, but I'm using Win Media Player, haven't downloaded any codecs (though haven't had any problems with anything else either). Can't be bothered download stuff just to watch this one clip anyway, I'll just read the article or something. :rolleyes: :(

Try Getright. Install it, and go to the page from in Getright. It will display the items in the page, and you should be able to tell it to download the movie.

I installed Getright before, can't remember why, but I uninstalled it for some reason. Maybe I'll reinstall it and give it a second chance...

it reminds me of the US vs Iraq.

You may also want to try LeechGet, if you figure out why you got rid of Getright.

That is one hell of a video!

ILikeSalt,

wow the only diffrence is the iraqis unlike the bees never give up and seem to have a limitless supply of people willing to fight, but the US like the hornets are already taking the goods.