Consider this: a world where there is no famine, economics are all tied together, There is pleanty of culture and multiple languages but everyone speaks at least one language in common. Wouldnt it be a wonderful world? More resource sharing more options, more progress!!! This is what I believe the world needs, ONE GOVERNMENT... What do you think?

Damn... that would suck. I would forsee a century of decay and atrophy until society is weak enough that something normally minor could topple it. Heck, I would make bringing it down (or at least shaking it up a little) my personal goal in life.

Did you ever see 'Demolition Man'? I think that was a halfway accurate portrayal.

It would obviously get worse before it got better, I mean, with no war and no famine, wed have a lot less to worry about. We could turn all our efforts to combat global warming and focus on space travel and exploring the stars. I havent seen Demolition Man, but I have read the book which its very slightly based off of, The Demolished Man. So for instance, Aliens invade, if we dont have a world government China and Russia will jump the gun and try to blow them out of the sky with nukes and condemn us all. But consider, 6 billion people, all working together against a common threat, united rather than fighting amongst ourselves, Personally, I think that might work better...

actually your talking about globalization!
...A central government. it already is, and its a nightmare already

i feel what we need is anarchism in its truest sense. togther with a deep understanding of where the patriarchay went wrong...how it maintains its power though myth--mytological and secular/spin

this means beginning the exploration. the insight that its myth has cut off head from body. head =male and body=female and Nature in their myth

this will need radical change cause it entails us really being encouraged to plunge into the Abyss. what the patriarchy really really fears and thus you really fear.

so, what i mean is that we cant imagine things 'progressing' alomg the old rustypatriarchal idea of linear process with the spirit left out. Thet dis-spirited Nature. we need to allow insight insight that ENspirits it.
/this doesn't mean givin up sciencea as such. but realizing it in a different way. as a tool WTH Nature rather than a tool against Nature or trying to one-UP Nature

the reason for the latter, is the unresolved and denied metaphysical precept of th materialistic scientific human

Consider this: a world where there is no famine, economics are all tied together, There is pleanty of culture and multiple languages but everyone speaks at least one language in common. Wouldnt it be a wonderful world? More resource sharing more options, more progress!!! This is what I believe the world needs, ONE GOVERNMENT... What do you think?

Great idea, though it depends on what that government is (it would need to be more of a federation of states that keep local laws, but have a unified police, currency, trade). Many modern 'political entities'' or states are just conglomerates of previously existing sovereignties (China, Italy, EU, US). Constant war is often the result of a politically fragmented territory, while peace is the result of unified territory.

"world peace" could only be realistically achieved through force, and from the removal of threats of war (so that nations wouldn't need to build armies), that necessarily come from sovereign countries. We're already headed towards this, as was mentioned (through globalization and amalgamation, the EU for example).

Furthermore, humans will be confronted with the necessity of global government (or 'GG' for short), once global warming really starts to heat up (pun intended). If nations like China, US are sovereign, and insist on being able to poison the atmosphere that all nations live in, then there is no way to stop them- and we will poison the atmosphere. And we will be similarly helpless against other global environmental catastrophies that require human cooperation.

But by far, the greatest risk we face is that of an Extraterrestrial Invasion. Those 'Greys' have been eyeing our planet for a while... abducting our women, implanting probes in our anus, mutilating our cattle... and by now they probably figure that we humans are 'ripe for the picking'. I'm not sure what they have in store for us, because I can't comprehend their sick alien minds... but it won't be pretty (possibly involving more anal implants), unless we fight back. We need to band together, create an Human Resistance force, controlled by a consensus of world leaders or an elected Commander in Cheif of the World, in order to have the military capability and unity of force to resist an alien invasion, and defend our homeworld.

i agree, 100%, but not one world government. Seperate governments with a central control mechanism that governs over all.

Consider this: a world where there is no famine, economics are all tied together, There is pleanty of culture and multiple languages but everyone speaks at least one language in common. Wouldnt it be a wonderful world? More resource sharing more options, more progress!!! This is what I believe the world needs, ONE GOVERNMENT... What do you think?
Great if there is no corruption or abuse. I don't think that is going to be possible any time soon.... :rolleyes:

Consider this: a world where there is no famine, economics are all tied together, There is pleanty of culture and multiple languages but everyone speaks at least one language in common. Wouldnt it be a wonderful world? More resource sharing more options, more progress!!! This is what I believe the world needs, ONE GOVERNMENT... What do you think?
Take your one world order an shove it up your ass. That's what I think about it.

You are truly one skewed pilgrim.
Geistkiesel

And only one group of people running the whole show that were not elected but established themselves through money or power influences, I would say ....no.

Great idea, though it depends on what that government is (it would need to be more of a federation of states that keep local laws, but have a unified police, currency, trade). Many modern 'political entities'' or states are just conglomerates of previously existing sovereignties (China, Italy, EU, US). Constant war is often the result of a politically fragmented territory, while peace is the result of unified territory.

"world peace" could only be realistically achieved through force, and from the removal of threats of war (so that nations wouldn't need to build armies), that necessarily come from sovereign countries. We're already headed towards this, as was mentioned (through globalization and amalgamation, the EU for example).

Furthermore, humans will be confronted with the necessity of global government (or 'GG' for short), once global warming really starts to heat up (pun intended). If nations like China, US are sovereign, and insist on being able to poison the atmosphere that all nations live in, then there is no way to stop them- and we will poison the atmosphere. And we will be similarly helpless against other global environmental catastrophies that require human cooperation.
[quote=Bob]
But by far, the greatest risk we face is that of an Extraterrestrial Invasion. Those 'Greys' have been eyeing our planet for a while... abducting our women, implanting probes in our anus, mutilating our cattle... and by now they probably figure that we humans are 'ripe for the picking'. I'm not sure what they have in store for us, because I can't comprehend their sick alien minds... but it won't be pretty (possibly involving more anal implants), unless we fight back. We need to band together, create an Human Resistance force, controlled by a consensus of world leaders or an elected Commander in Cheif of the World, in order to have the military capability and unity of force to resist an alien invasion, and defend our homeworld.
What do the have in store for us? Fot one thing they aren't merely torturers and teasers flittering around the universe with a perpetual sneer on their lips. If you promise no to tell a soul where you got the information I am about to divulge to you, your deepest sense of really wanting to know what the 'greys' have in store for us (that is , if the 'greys' is not a typographical derivation from your true intetionss hidden by a mispelling, and you really imeant to say " , , ,what the 'gays' have in store for us"). Our relative Distance means that I must rely on your promisee not to drop a dime on who tatting out the messanger's true identiy. Oh wha thogh, thje phrase, e hell I'm not all that good on promises myself, if you get my drift, but interestingly enough, the answer is hidden in plain public view!, Nobody would expect to look here and read the key to the door of answers to your question. Believe it or not Bob, the phrase, "...and then [he] proceeded to take the man and settle him in the garden of E'den to cultivate it and to take care of it." [Emphasis added] Genesis 2:15.; Just like the first bunch of space bugs digging for gold took its phyiscal toll on the alien work force, a labor strike by some accounts actually happened. Needing workers they appealed to their people's natural instinct to work for the betterment of people or for satisfaction of their desire for victory in their own private war on poverty. This enforces their sense of all that 'arbitrary and unconditional obedience to state authority' , of whatever form it was iin when a labor crisis on the other side of the universe prompted some strange visis in the night causing more than a few enquiries similar to "Have you seen Veronica lately?", or "Have you seen Wickenburg,Arizona?"
Can youi see through the cloud that looks so nearly perfectly like a camel and see the systematic implementation of arbitrary authority that is beginning to openly seem more and more enforced by thugs acting meaner than junk yard dogs?, 'aus die letzte Ramschplatzwachund '?. Can you get a feel for that subtle spot, there between the pages, the description of how we have been massively smother-fucked and raped of our deepest human desires and impulses; repulsed as they are and punished when expressed, the simple common tacit love of freedom, love, sponteneity, exploration, joy, lots of happy, eager women wanting to play,and lots of good chemicals that take from the path but a bit of the lonliness; and who would deny a man these things?

They have slavery on their minds for us.

Who is being separated from the general population and maintand in an unambiguously separate and definable and restricted social clas: no vote, education and professioanl oportunities deprived and denied and other avenues of growrh and poential; for social interaction drastically retstricted, severe burdens of arbitrary scrutiny on the intimate aspect of lives, who are severely denied an equal playing field in family unity which eniversally is mantined on an already chronic brink of collapse or implosion?

Ordered world equilibrium through application of governenmt force, physially force used in separating members of a family, for instance? The latest round in the fight for life is seen in the Federal and State, "War on Drugs", but it ain't the druggies they are going to cart off and enslave in that galaxy over there, there . .no to the left a bit . . .yes that one..(Would you pick speed freaks as slaves?)

It 's the worker, the obsessed with the 8 to 5 life style, the ones that know what TGIF really means and how to really enjoy it.These are the ones who be a crossing over the loading ramp and heading for what gruesome planets, what future;

Do you know Bob, from the secret archives of the 50's anhd 60's what they used to teach school children ?

They used to teach school children what to do when faced with an imminent nuclear attack (circa 1950s and 1960s): You get on the floor and spreading your legs as wide as you can you bend yourhead and back as far forward as possible, as far as you can bend your head and back. When you have your head down between your legs as far as it will go, you just kiss your own sweet ass goodbye. For other than he finality of nuclear radiation avoidance purposes, this might be something the selected ones can try. It certainly Wont hurt. Can't hurt in fact.

You be understanding me Bob?

Geistkiesel

Thread going nowhere.

And only one group of people running the whole show that were not elected but established themselves through money or power influences, I would say ....no.

Yeah, somehow, if the one group were good people, then you're fine. But if they were currupted, skewed, then it would all fall down, and there wouldn't be anything to take it's place.

Power currupts.

Command of English is knowledge
Knowledge is power
Power corrupts

Therefore you are absolutely right to flagrently misuse the English language. Spelling "corrupts" would destroy your puny soul.

What do the have in store for us? Fot one thing they aren't merely torturers and teasers flittering around the universe with a perpetual sneer on their lips......

You be understanding me Bob?

Geistkiesel


Loud and clear Geistkiesel. The point being, I'm fucked.

Nor will I inquire into your sources. And no, I don't mean 'gays'. At least hopefully not...

The main problem I have right now is dealing with these durned rectal implants...

And with a shiver down my spine, I wonder why those bastards are so interested in my rectal cavity.

what we need is for a central agnecy like the UN to manage all earnings, then distribute an even amount back to the individual nations, so that it can be spent an whatever needs arise in that country, it would be like a global communist union in the essence that there was no poverty but it would also allow people to be rewarded for their hard work as they get payed a certain percentage from the government, the best of both systems.

as long as people retian sovreignty to their own nations there can be equal wealth with no problems, it is only when you ask someone to hand over their country to a large out of touch and essentially 'foreign' entity that problems occur

the thought sucks

And only one group of people running the whole show that were not elected but established themselves through money or power influences, I would say ....no.
I think there already is such a bunch that controls all...the Worlds Banks!

There is no practicality in such a world. With one ruling order, you have no individuality, no evolution, and no 'freedom'. Not to mention, in a causal universe which contains a balance of all matter, there must be absence to have excess, there must be 'good' and 'bad', and there must be the strong and the weak.

No, I would not like such a stagnant world.... change is too vital to our future being.

There is no practicality in such a world. With one ruling order, you have no individuality, no evolution, and no 'freedom'. Not to mention, in a causal universe which contains a balance of all matter, there must be absence to have excess, there must be 'good' and 'bad', and there must be the strong and the weak.

No, I would not like such a stagnant world.... change is too vital to our future being.

Who said such a world would be 'stagnant' or 'unchanging'?

You're assuming that its war and strife which keeps us free.

Such a world order obviously contains good and bad, just in a different configuration.

When you have "one" structure of thought which guides "all" the people, how could it not become stagnant?

And I do not wish to imply that I make assumptions as you suggest. But freedom has consequence. As Aristotle once stated, human beings are "rational animals." The key word for this conversation is "animal". Instictively man is drawn to conquer, this has and continues to result in war. This subsequently results in change, and as unfortunate as it may be, is also a consequence to freedom. One world order would not offer this freedom. So to this end, I do not assume that war and strife keep us free, it is a logical deduction in a causal universe.

But again I state, there is no practicality in such a world so there is little point to argue its faults or merits.

When you have "one" structure of thought which guides "all" the people, how could it not become stagnant?

we're just talking about a government here. Not 'one structure of thought'. That means a unified mail system, currency, no tariffs and laws that apply equally everywhere. And oh yeah, no need to spend billions of freaking dollars on the military just so they can sit around in their tanks and ships and do nothing.

And I do not wish to imply that I make assumptions as you suggest. But freedom has consequence. As Aristotle once stated, human beings are "rational animals." The key word for this conversation is "animal". Instictively man is drawn to conquer, this has and continues to result in war. This subsequently results in change, and as unfortunate as it may be, is also a consequence to freedom. One world order would not offer this freedom. So to this end, I do not assume that war and strife keep us free, it is a logical deduction in a causal universe.

But again I state, there is no practicality in such a world so there is little point to argue its faults or merits.

Animals can be trained, and that it is by no means a logical deduction.

I don't even know what you mean by 'no practicality'

I mean that it is not practical because the likeliness of its happening is slim to none.

I mean that it is not practical because the likeliness of its happening is slim to none.

Its happening right under your nose, but its too big and too subversive for you to notice. Globalization. The EU. WTO. NAFTA.

And smaller states always exhibit the natural tendency to congeal into larger ones through a process of cultural diffusion (now at an unprecedented rate) and eventual common interests or military conquest.

Did you ever see 'Demolition Man'? I think that was a halfway accurate portrayal.
Schwarzenager is working to do his part...
http://www.amendforarnold.com/

In any case, to the main topic, a one world government is pretty much already happening. However, as the absolutely satirical nature of your post suggests, warp traveler, you think that people want that. You somehow equate the left's ideals of equality and wiping out poverty as a direct result of a one world government.

Here's the real issue - governments become corrupt over time. Regardless if it is a left or right leaning government, the people eventually become apathetic, and corruption moves in. Thus, a one world government would spell disaster for everyone, instead of those lazy, indifferent americ... err... citizens of various countries.

Its happening right under your nose, but its too big and too subversive for you to notice. Globalization. The EU. WTO. NAFTA.

And smaller states always exhibit the natural tendency to congeal into larger ones through a process of cultural diffusion (now at an unprecedented rate) and eventual common interests or military conquest.

lol.. Those are organizations which, like the US have found some form of unity and collaboration of view points. And though yes, globalization presents some form of collective goal, the diversity of cultures will ever remain. The Christians will never convince every Buddhist, or every Hindu, or every Islamic to 'join their side'. Nor will the latter's convince a majority to take upon their religious stance. The US can promote democracy but it will always take upon a new meaning for those that establish it. Never being the former, it will evolve into something which suits the culture.

The only way in which a one world order would occur would be if each and every culture was to agree to respect the other without fail. Such as China giving independence to Taiwan, or for Palestine and Israel to peacefully co-exist. These things are nice in theory, but....