...that's what many say.....are they? Have any of you, in your everyday ongoings and experiences, found women to be less than capable of driving a car. Being that they are too clumsy, bashful or just plain aweful when they drive?????


Haven't found that to be true personally so how about it?? have you??

My drivers Ed. couach said that the average woman's total driving time is 75% of that of her male counterpart. As the old, gruff man continued, however, he claimed that women cause the same number of vehicular incidents as men. This seems to suggest an inherent female ineptitude or disadvantage, no?

I think there's a reason insurance is higher for men (for those 25 and under at least).

Or different approaches to driving.

Many men view it as a challenge or means or proving something. Hence a lot of them become sticky red paste. They only see the mechanical nature of the task, quite often, and so inflate it into something more than what it is. From this we get much of the car as status situation occurring.

Many women seem to view it more socially, as a ways of moving between social areas. Thus where they err is to often fail to take into account the mechanical nature of the task.

And what is the answer?

The private car is selfish, unwise and Judaic.

i really have no say on the issue. if you look at these male street racers they freakin wild they zoom past traffic like it was a Obstacle course.

Well, I tend to find that women pull stupider stunts, like not stopping at stop signs and whipping out in front of you...and making you slam on your breaks when there is no one in sight behind you. However, men tend to do more reckless things. I don't know.

I'm a good driver, but only because I was taught to drive by my father and my grandfather, so I don't drive like a typical female.

Correction. Soccer moms in SUVs that they barely fit in, are bad drivers. Cell phone users are the worst.:mad:

Yes all women are bad drivers. All men are bad drivers as well. Except me.

people in new jersey are the worst drivers.

i don't drive so i wouldn't know first hand but i know that men's insurance rates are way higher than women's. they cause most of the accidents. judging from my parents, my dad is a terrible, reckless driver who doesn't know any of the traffic laws. he does all this while complaining about the "f*cking women drivers" (as he cuts her off). women around here seem more likely to talk on cellphones while they drive (which is illegal!) and those cause a lot of accidents so maybe the rates for accidents caused by women will go up. however, my mom is a stickler for driving laws while my dad does use his phone in the car. he also cuts across 4 lanes of traffic from the hov lane where leaving the lane is not permitted to make his exit about 3 seconds before it comes up. try to stay away from 43-46 on the LI-E. my brother drives fast but as a military man he can be annoying about obeying laws. he stops and waits at stop signs. it makes people behind him crazy. if i ever more out of ny and get a license (gasp!) i think i'd be an excellent driver. new yorkers are generally more confident defensive drivers.

I agree with Christian Sodomy. In my experience, women tend to have more accidents than men. But when men screw up, they REALLY screw up.

When I drive, my car is almost like an extension of my body. I understand what it likes and what it doesn't like. I understand its limits and I know quite well how it will handle any given situation. When I accidentally hit a pot hole, it almost hurts me. When I rev the engine up high to get more power, I almost feel the lactic acid in my muscles.

It kills me watching other people insensitively drive their cars.

I've been driving for 3 years. Never been in an accident. Never been ticketed or pulled over.

Q: Why couldn't Hellen Keller drive?
A: Because she was a woman.

- Warren

I agree in saying women are worse. I have had some bad male friend drivers, but I average their driving with my friend girls' driving, and the girls suck. I don't want that to sound sexist, but they just do. Insurance may be higher for guys, but they are more daring I think. If you met a soccer mom and an indie driver, and saw that the indie driver got in a few more wrecks, would you say he was a worse driver?

If I were trapped by an exploding volcano and the only way out was on wheels, between the racer and the soccer mom, you better believe the guy will be driving. :)

I would not say that women are bad drivers! (not all)
My mother drives better than my father so I've got a counter-example. I think that the women respect the law more than the men while the men are better in driving (Pffff, if only there were no rules and no other cars on the roads!)

women want to ride the beast

men want to control the beast

they both want these because they are told to and expected to
its that simple
one of my X Gfs is a better driver than most men i have ever seen drive

women expect men to be a good driver and have a nice and powerful car

men expect women to be driven in thier car to increase the males visual value in the eyes of other women

go figure :D

I'm an excellent driver. You know why? Because i'm russian http://fool.exler.ru/sm/susel.gif

Originally posted by Simple russian girl
I'm an excellent driver. You know why? Because i'm russian http://fool.exler.ru/sm/susel.gif
Big space, not a lot of cars... no? :D

(sorry, it was easy!)

no one should legally be able to drive except me

Originally posted by ripleofdeath
women want to ride the beast

men want to control the beast

go figure :D

I was wondering about that.
But of course, women are raised differently than men.
Also depends on reflexes and concentration.
I don't know, i have seen girls put on their make up in traffic and the guys with cell phones. I think it's not legal anymore to use cell phones while driving. or is that just in America?

I think it depends on where you learned to drive, where you spend most of your time driving, and who taught you to drive.
I've been cut off b more men than women, and Alberta drivers are teh worst in Canada. Except for Saskatchewan people in the mountains. (I hate tourists). If you drive in a city, you learn to be a little more cautious thank if you drive in the countyr. I really don't think gender has anything to do with it. If my car could go fast enough, I'd probably drive like an idiot. But it doesn't. It maxes out at like 130 kmh. 150 if I"m going down a hill. Frickin gutless...

Originally posted by DarkEyedBeauty
Well, I tend to find that women pull stupider stunts, like not stopping at stop signs and whipping out in front of you...and making you slam on your breaks when there is no one in sight behind you. However, men tend to do more reckless things. I don't know.

I'm a good driver, but only because I was taught to drive by my father and my grandfather, so I don't drive like a typical female.

I totally agree with you. I've been driving for about 5 years now and I've noticed one thing: Girls in general speed, cut you off-a very big one because they always do it, it even happened to me today by this 40 year old hag that then went under the speed limit as I was going about 10 over the speedlimit and what's worse is she let people cut in front of her. I think that if they are to cut in front of you to keep the pace or get the hell out of the way. I normally pass people who do that if I have the opportunity. I never gotten into an accident or anything and I'm really cautious. Another thing is they always fool around with their damn hair or their lousy makeup or read the paper or talk on the phone(it pisses me off real bad to see people cut in front of you and as you pass by them because they are going under speed limit and they're using their phone). Another thing I notice is they like to ride the line a lot too. Anyway that's my rant. I do see many males do a lot of the stuff they do, but in general I see girls do it a lot more. However, a lot of women know how to drive well and aggressively. Thank God for the women who know how to drive.

Originally posted by static76
Correction. Soccer moms in SUVs that they barely fit in, are bad drivers. Cell phone users are the worst.:mad:

And drunks/PCP users. Selfish bored people = SUV drivers.

The heart of the matter is that insurance companies have seen a flaw in statistics and are making a killing from it. In the view of the general public women are worst drivers and in the eyes of the insurance companies men are the worst drivers (because it is financially beneficial for them to believe so.). In reality both sexes are just about equal in driving even if i don't have the statistics or any back up for that claim.

The only way insurance companies will ever lower the premium for men is if we start not paying insurance, this is the only way i can see would be the most effective, in effect; by hitting them in the pocket.

The whole insurance aspect for men is discrimination - it sounds rich where the only "acceptable" discrimination is against women, when you say discrimination against men it doesn't have the same moral basis in our society. (does that make sense? I know what I'm thinking but to get it into words is another matter.)

You can either accept the insurance scam that is inflicted on us all by our own governments - as they make it compulsory - or you can take some sort of action as i have outlined above. On the other hand, you can whine until heart is contented.

I don't care, basically, i have accepted that insurance is fatally flawed and pay the bill.

Another thing that bugs me about insurance is that they wont allow you to modify your car without bumping the premium up, even then they have a limit - usually 3 modifications.
I ask: Why not?
Its my car and its in legal road worthy condition with various mots and taxes, after all, I've paid for it; I'm the owner. Sure, it may make it more attractive to theifs but isn't that the police's problem? If i were to claim for the mods that I've declared most insurance companies wont even pay for them so what logic is there for disallowing modifications? none. Its a way for them to invalidate the insurance policy so they don't have to pay out. Its all a scam that needs serious revisions by parliament. Of course, i can only speak for Britain in the ways of working here.

Cheers.

Marigny
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Also depends on reflexes and concentration
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i agree women are not taught to have good reflexs and are expected to not cope with fast events and emergncy situations
men are expected to
to be considered men genraly speaking

Captain_Crunch
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you have a realy good point
the entire premis of the insurance company is to profit
FROM FINDING A WAY TO NOT PAY OUT
so the more they profit the more the society suffers
its a SIMPLE WORKING EQUATION

same thing with violence toward men
women expect men to just blow it off and not whine or winge
but if a women gets hit then its all on s.w.a.t teams coming in through windows
lawyers lining up at the front door
police surveying neibours
its just so sexest it amazes me

why men choose to put up with hipocrictical women i dont know
why women choose to put up with lazzy-brained apathetic arrogant men i dont know

Simple russian girl
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I'm an excellent driver. You know why? Because i'm russian
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russian women seem to be a bit more independently minded from my experience
so i completely agree with your comment as a possible genralisation to some point

women genraly look upon men who cant drive or cant drive well as les masculine than those men who drive an expensive or sports car

its an ideal example of the classic inequality and posative discrimination that is a consistant theme which is retarding the advancement of women and men

women often drive too close to the car infront and underestimate the speed of oncoming or merging traffic

men tend to loose thier temper and do more extreem manouvers
of over taking or speeding
and are EXPECTED to be the PRIMARY RISK TAKER to attract the female

and quite asside from that
if you have a couple or family going somewhere
WHO IS DRIVING MOST OF THE TIME
the man
not the women
and those are the times when familys die in a pile up
so the stats are tilted because women choose not to drive
or the man chooses to drive the family on holiday

the reality of the situation is a trade secret that insurance companys make BILLIONS of dollars from
they profit from familys dying and not compensating them after years of investment

groove on all :)

lol . . . what i can tell you is that two of my ex-girlfriends drove cars like psychopaths. . .i don't know about MOST women though. I think women without issues drive a lot safer! take it for what it's worth. Now, i prefer to go out with women who are ok sitting in the passenger's seat! :p

Hey Captain. It's a fact that young men are less careful in traffic. They say that it's a combination of no experience, peer pressure and too much confidence behind the wheel.

The insurance-companies have to set a limit between when a car no longer should be considered as an original. Otherwise, people can go around it and buy a less sporty car with a lower insurance-premium and change the motor, turbo and chip. Thus making the possibility for an accident higher - without paying the higher premium a sportscar would require.

It's not discrimination to create groups. The best thing would be if they figure out a premium for of every single individual, but they can't. So they've done it as specific as possible.

Mine the drive thrus!

on average women may be inferior drivers but this does not mean there are women that are better drivers then most men. I believe sexism is wrong because it disregarded the fact that there are exceptional men and women.

ripleofdeath
you have a realy good point

Hey Captain. It's a fact that young men are less careful in traffic. They say that it's a combination of no experience, peer pressure and too much confidence behind the wheel.
Why should i have to suffer from other peoples mistakes? You cant generalise anything with being accurate in your generalisation, not everyone has the same personality. I personaly believe that both sexes are about equal in driving = because there are no real statistics to prove otherwise.

Statistics say that more men crash hense they are worse drivers. The problem with that is more men drive than women so its blatent that more men are going to crash than women. Its simple as that. Noone can convince me that insurance companies have the common good at heart, if they did they would level men's premiums because there is no justification in the discrimination.

They say that it's a combination of no experience, peer pressure and too much confidence behind the wheel.

So your saying that young women drivers have more experience behind the wheel than men and that they dont suffer from peer pressure and dont have too much confidence ? - after all, the driving test has declared that you are fit to drive. Its bullshit. That doesnt allow for people that are not impressionable. My freinds tell me to drive fast etc etc but i dont. Its because its my licence, my car and my life if anything goes wrong.

The insurance-companies have to set a limit between when a car no longer should be considered as an original. Otherwise, people can go around it and buy a less sporty car with a lower insurance-premium and change the motor, turbo and chip. Thus making the possibility for an accident higher - without paying the higher premium a sportscar would require.
Do you say that more people crash in sportscars or faster cars than drivers of ordinary cars? Because i want to modify my car doesnt mean that A: Im going to turn into an idiot driver or B: Drive to the limit all the time.

Just some of my views.

Cheers.

Captain_Crunch

heres another one for you
men are more likely to have a car
so when they get a wife or longterm girlfriend they wish to put another person on the insurance policy
BUT the insurance company know they will not be able to sell the same cost twice for the one car
that is called double billing
so they get around it by increasing the premium when the male is young and impresionable enough to be forced to pay what ever they state as a insurance premium
knowing that they will get only a slight increase when 2 possible sales become one

orange
LOL
please think more carefuly
what would be the premium for a person who the insurance company thought they knew would crash?
the same price of the car
or no insurance at all
the insurance companys make billions of dollars of profit
already
people with expensive sports cars are most often very careful drivers
the only reason the insurance premium goes up for sports cars is because other people cause accidents even if the insured driver does not
so the real issue is that people are greedy and selfish
a single premium could be worked out for the person
and insurance companys would still make billions
its just the high rolling selfish people who want to save 20$ a year and so tell thier mates who run the insurance companys to
change thier policy to suit thier rich friends
its all very sickningly nepatistic
(i hate that word because it is almost a biggoted term)
but allows an idea of what i mean in less than a trillion words


groove on :)

I find that my mother is actually a far better driver than my father, as she is more careful and precise.

Originally posted by Deity Jupiter
I find that my mother is actually a far better driver than my father, as she is more careful and precise.

My family is the other way around. My dad used to be a crazy speeder, but as of the past 7 years or so he's slowed it down and my mom is a lot worse.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing.

Actually I was going to ignore this post for the above reason, but then I thought how fun it would be to think /why/ women might be worse drivers than men.

Here are my anecdotes.

Two times I've experienced women who were stopped in the middle of the lane on opposite sides of the road to talk to each other. That pisses me off - but even moreso when they won't IMMEDIATELY move. The first time the one in my lane slowly started moving so she could talk a little longer. She was very slow.

The second time, in the opposite direction was a car parked in a ferry traffic lane. In my lane, somebody was PARKED and out of their car. They were standing in the lane between them talking. Ironically, there is a huge road one of them could have parked on if they really wanted to talk, but they were bitches. The one who was in my lane motioned for me to drive between them. I was in a big truck, and they were standing on the sides of that small lane - they would have died if I had tried that. Now, I would have gladly crushed them for their stupidity, but I don't want to go to jail for my principles. The driver in my lane slowly got into her car and got it moving after it was obvious I wasn't going anywhere without her moving. The next time that happens I'm using the horn (which I reserve for dangerous situations normally).

So why would women be worse drivers than men? In my situations it was obvious - not a lack of skill - but their attitudes to driving and the road were very poor. Because any biological differences shouldn't really account for differences in driving, I'm going to say attitude is the number one reason.

That attitude is the sort of thing developed by their region's attitudes. So they probably thought they could get away with it since it was a small town with low traffic. Dunno why they would be so inconsiderate to me, but the soccer mom's I know all have bitchy attitudes.

I think some women may be lesser drivers because of how they feel about their vehicles. For whatever prevalent social attitude, woman of my mother's generation don't seem to aspire to any high levels. They don't want to know things. They don't want to know how their vehicle works or why. Ignorance accounts for some accidents for sure. I think about an equal amount of men and woman from my grad (12) class are aspiring to become respected individuals of society (via college/university training), which may be nice to hear for those who care.

Personally, a vehicle is a tool for going places quickly and comfortably. And thus I respect it: I don't speed (tickets mainly, speeding is usually safe), I obey the laws, and I give myself time to get places or suffer the consequences.

I have seen some women drive as if they were legally blind but on the whole i have seen youngmen drive quite recklessly and aggresive.

Overpriced Gas?

Overpriced Car Insurance?

Cheating Death Evertime You exit the Offramp of the Interstate?

Pollution Choking you and your Kids?

Wife/Girlfriend want a bigger badder (safer) SUV?

Want to Cripple the MIddle East?

Tired of Traffic Jams?


I have the answer to it all!!!!!

We must put the Stop sign up at the DMV to the Woman Driver!

We must get them out from behind the wheel of the car and get them in the bus (preferable in the back!)

This will free our nations highways for a safe, and secure National Interstate system.

This will cut down on fuel consumption- drastically lower the price of fuel, helping the economy on Titanic levels

Lower fuel demand means less cash to the Middle East, in effect talking away the fuel to terrorist militias.

Lower deman for cars will lower the price of cars

Lower use of cars mean more compitition among repair shops, keeping them honest...

Lower use of roads means less tax money to be wasted on unnessisary road repair, saveing taxpayer lots of cash, again-fueling OUR economy.

Demand for more busses means more jobs in manufactuing and Service, again-fueling OUR economy.

Less consumption of fuel means less emissions- even the treehugers are satisified.

Women whom desire bigger and bigger SUVs, the 60,000lbs Greyhoud bus provides ultimant protection of her husbands offspring.

The Woman will not have- car payments, insurance payments(or claims), repair costs (or bogus repair costs) and will not have to wait for her vehicle to Cool/Warm.

Bus companies can offer Starbucks onboard service and perriwincle drapes to make travel more appealing to the Female traveler.

We must take thier drivers liecenses away Today.




PS- I switched sexes, but in the computer matrix, the non-male driving environment did not work.

men don't listen-and drove cars anyway.

there should be laws against mums picking up kids from schools. Even without the 40 k limit in school area's i would trust that less acidents come from people (male and female) driving THROUGH school zones than the mums picking there kids up

oh and also ban them from shopping centers GOD car park rage is SOOOO bad

Well. Most women that I know are good drivers, perhaps because they seem to be more careful, and most (young) men I know tend to drive more reckless and fast.

I'm an excellent driver. You know why? Because i'm russian http://fool.exler.ru/sm/susel.gif

And no one can drive too fast in a russian car?

No women cant drive, its not in their nature to drive!!! It a scientific fact.

Men who want to get rid of their wives buy their wives sport cars, its legal murder. If it wasnt for them damm feminist they were gona pass a law prohibiting women from driving, its a shame they didnt,it would have saved so many lives.

im a woman. im a shitty driver. i admit it. but i dont think all woman are bad drivers. i get nervous in the passenger seat with just about anyone exept my friend, female, who is a great driver. a bit speedy, but a good driver.
i dont think its really about driving though. i know how to back up and drive between the lines and i know how to merge and check my blind spot. the only problem is somewhere in there the ADD kicks in and the next thing you know, im throwing it in park trying to flip my blinker on.. its a focus issue, im incapable of paying attention to one thing for that long. i get bored. men on the other hand can sustain painfully long repititious activities.. for example: video games (not all, but you know what im talking about.. over and over and over.. ) watching golf on tv (or most sports). it just takes less to keep your attention.
heh.. now that i think about it.. kinda explains the mail focus on sex.. doesnt take much to keep your attention..

Well my mom is the worst driver I've ever known, she drives just under the speed limit in the fast lane in 3rd gear, and rides the clutch. But, my x g-friend was great, she was from Germany, and had plenty of experience on the autobahn, and they don't abide fools in the fast lane! I think it depends on the woman.

I think men are generally better because men are more likely to check their engine fluid levels and tire pressures before and after trips, all these are what technicaly makes one a good driver. Thus men are also more handy for long trips. Men are also more inclined to follow traffic laws than women and there is nothing more unstopable than a woman in a hurry.

i really dont think tire pressure is the issue. personally ive never heard of anyone getting rear-ended becuase the person behind them suddenly saw their "low oil" light come on.
I have however, been rear ended by a man who, and lemme quote this, "I saw the red light and knew you were stopped and i slowed down, but then i just took my foot off the brake.. i don't know what happened." the same man had hit my mother the week before. I really don't think him being an idiot had anything to do with either of our tire pressure.

nightfall isnt it GIRLS who take longer with sex?:p

I mean a guy can be over and done in a couple of minutes but girls seem to want to go for HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!:p

heya asy. hehe
i was referring more to the male state of mind, always foused on one thing. i wasn't referring to the act itself.

annnd.. it isnt that we "take longer", its just that were still waiting for it to get better. hahahahaaha

Women are the worst drivers on the road. They lack the aggresive behavior of a male and tend to panic in tense situations not to mention yacking away on cell phones. It has also been proven the girls tend to driver faster with/without passangers while males tend to drive faster only with passangers making them more dangerous.

I think that only some of the women drivers are bad. Especially the ones who just got their driver's license.

my opinion is : men are the problem, they drive too fast, faster then women which trigger miles of traffic problems. not all women are ''bad'' drivers, they have a better metanoia but are probably in less control in difficult situations in traffic. maybe because of the short time of independance? this is my western way of looking at the problem, there are many cultures whithout female drivers / independance. maybe it is a cultural problem.