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cosmictraveler
07-22-04, 07:25 PM
anything larger than a 68 Gig harddrive. I now must switch over to Win XP Pro in order to use scuzzy for my 10,000 RPM harddrive.

invert_nexus
07-22-04, 07:35 PM
Can you repartition it? Make several smaller drives? You'll prefer XP anyway. But, to save money, you might just try smaller partitions.

§outh§tar
07-22-04, 07:39 PM
Is it me or did you say the same thing twice?

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I do just fine with a 38 gig hard drive and I wonder what kind of stuff people keep on their computers that takes up so much space...

I have never heard of a 68gig hard drive limit, do you have a source for that info?

invert_nexus
07-22-04, 07:46 PM
In general, computer systems with a BIOS dated 1998 or later can work with drives up to 32 gigabytes (GB) in size. The 32GB barrier is due to the inability of the BIOS to address an LBA that is larger than 66,060,287. Only in the most recent computer systems has the BIOS been upgraded to work with drives larger than 32GB. In addition, in some computers, a 64GB barrier is still to be overcome. So, the primary limit to the size of the hard drive your computer can use is the LBA limit of your system's BIOS.
http://www.spcug.org/reviews/bl0107.htm

Is it Win98 or your bios?

Southstar,

Don't know what people use that much space for? Oh, that's right, you're a christian so your porn supply is probably minimal, eh? ;)

Hell, I remember when I got a 145 MB drive and thought I was the shiznit.

Repo Man
07-22-04, 09:40 PM
If you like 98 ( I don't understand it, but whatever) there's no reason to give it up yet.

The first step in getting Windows 98 to work with large hard drives is to make sure your BIOS can support the drive you want to use. Research any limitations at your motherboard manufacturers web site. Most modern motherboards have a flashable BIOS that can be updated if necessary.

Most hard drive manufacturers supply software to overcome BIOS limitations with their hard drives, such as Seagate's DiscWizard or Western Digital's Data Lifeguard products.
Windows 98/98SE Limitations

The Windows 98/98SE 64GB barrier is not a limitation of the operating system at all. Rather, the barrier is caused by the Microsoft disk setup tools, FDISK.EXE and FORMAT.COM.

Additionally, Windows 98SE has a default limitation of 137GB for ATA interface disc drives. Theoretically, you could then partition your boot drive for 137GB, but a limitation of the Microsoft SCANDISK and DEFRAG programs reduces the practical size to 127GB.
FDISK.EXE

The FDISK program that ships with Windows 98 has a drive size calculation problem because of some 16-bit values internally to calculate the size of the drive. Some of these variables overflow when the drive size is equal to or larger than 64GB and then display the drive size minus 64GB.

The FDISK program also has a maximum drive size limit of 512GB. Microsoft suggests that FDISK not be used to partition hard drives larger than 512GB and that a third-party program be used instead.

Microsoft has made a fix available for this problem, which is an updated version of FDISK.EXE.

http://www.hexff.com/w98_hd.php

That site has a link to the newer version of FDISK.

If your BIOS doesn't support larger drives, check for an update from your motherboard's manufacturer. If you are nervous about doing that, I'd be happy to help talk you through it.

Drive overlay software can fill the gap if a BIOS isn't available. But my guess is your motherboard is new enough to have a BIOS that supports at least 128 gigabyte drives.

§outh§tar
07-22-04, 09:45 PM
Is it Win98 or your bios?

Southstar,

Don't know what people use that much space for? Oh, that's right, you're a christian so your porn supply is probably minimal, eh? ;)

Hell, I remember when I got a 145 MB drive and thought I was the shiznit.

Minimal's probably the word, you addict .. :cool:

Alpha
07-23-04, 01:38 AM
Yes it will. I have a 250Gb HD that Win98SE can see just fine...

curioucity
07-23-04, 12:42 PM
Strange thing, cosmis.... and I haven't been able to experiment with it mysled. But guys, thanks for bringing things up:)