http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/27/sprj.irq.main/index.html

It seems apparent that we're closing in on Saddam himself. If, by any chance, we come across him, what do you think is going to happen? Would we attempt to capture him and question him, or would we just kill him off... just like we did to his sons?

I would think it would be better to capture him and question him about everything... then do what is right. What about you?

Ahhhhhh yes the good ole rhectoric. The US is no closer to Saddam that is such a joke. All they are trying to do is calm fears, by indicating to the Iraqi's that since the sons are dead Saddam is close behind. If Saddam was in the corner I would say that we should capture him and send him to the ICC. Like Slobodan, but we can't kill him once he is captured.

Same as Quasay and Uday - "killed while being captured".
In fact, if he shoots himself twice behind the ear like Quasay did, I wouldn't be surprised... :rolleyes:

it's in the US interest to catch him alive.
a - to prove beyond the shaddow of a doubt that he's gone,
b - to make a nice trial for him for the iraqis (and the rest of the world) to see

i can't wait to see those pictures of him on TV being a broken old man who lost a kingdom, 2 sons and grandson, and in the hands of his hated enemy.

yes, indeed it's in the US's best interest to catch him alive

Right. He should then be held in a military prison for some time, until the new Iraqi government is up. After that, hand him over and let them judge and sentence him.

The ICC does not apply because neither the U.S. nor Iraq ratified it.

But the UK, Poland, Austrailia did. And if Blair get's so much flak then it's off to the ICC. :)

IRAQ did not sign it.

Ehmm, but is Saddam leader of Iraq? And do u actually think that the Iraqi interim authority would prevent that? LOL. Iraq is bascily governmentless.

Taking him alive is a horrible risk and would serve absolutely no purpose. The longer he's alive in captivity, the bigger the chance some of ours get taken hostage with his release as ransom. If he's dead, no worries.

Taking him alive is a horrible risk and would serve absolutely no purpose. The longer he's alive in captivity, the bigger the chance some of ours get taken hostage with his release as ransom. If he's dead, no worries.

Only a moronic, savage would not see the value in keeping Saddam alive. Saddam's death will only cause MORE death and destruction in Iraq. Lest we forget that Iraq has much more than just Bath''ists who are fighting the US. ;) At least with Saddam alive he can't get out easy. Look at the closure Germany and Japan got with there trials. Hey we may even have a new Tojo on our hands. No but let's kill him like the coward Hitler did, that does a world of good. :rolleyes:

I see that you did not address the issue of hostage taking.

Like they wouldn;t do that now? LOL... PLEASE your so naive. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by nico
Like they wouldn;t do that now? LOL... PLEASE your so naive. :rolleyes: So they're going to take some of our guys hostage and demand Saddam's release right now :confused:

HAHAAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG that was just sad. Firstly too bad that's war, secondly you are doing the same thing isn't it ironic how the tables turn? Again your naivety is showing to the point of as u say "disgust". And they don't need a stupid reason to take your men, they could do it right now. You and western idoitcy.

what

Capture him. A very public trial where we bring up every horrible thing he ever did should help break his reputation there. We can allways kill him later. (I have to admit that putting his head on a pike would be fitting but it just wouldn't put out the right message to the public)

....I don't know if the us government really would want a public trial, not only would the change be given to publicly expose the gruel acts of Saddam, but saddams lawyers could use the oppertunity to re-expose the us-lies and questionable procedures etc.

Personally I feel that Saddam would be the perfect person to be judged by the international court, but the us does not reckcognize it, because more than often us hands aint clean themselves and I guess therefore that if they can track his hideout he will be killed during capture.....

Are his sons definitely dead?? I mean is it really them (I'm not claiming a conspiracy theory here). I was just wondering if anyone knew them well enough to recognize their faces, because I haven't seen any comparisons at all, just the pictures.

Originally posted by Vortexx
....I don't know if the us government really would want a public trial, not only would the change be given to publicly expose the gruel acts of Saddam, but saddams lawyers could use the oppertunity to re-expose the us-lies and questionable procedures etc.

Personally I feel that Saddam would be the perfect person to be judged by the international court, but the us does not reckcognize it, because more than often us hands aint clean themselves and I guess therefore that if they can track his hideout he will be killed during capture.....

I second this.

...reckcognize... It's recognise by the way (to re- cognise something, i.e., to think it over again).

:rolleyes:

Yeah well most people think to re- cognize something is to see it with their eyes but it's not. It's to think over it again!

A trial in Iraq? LOL :D

What if he is declared innocent? I would love to see that! OK, he can't be declared innocent, but which laws will the trial follow? Saddam's ones?! Of course not... so the "US"/iraqis'ones?
Anyway I guess that he could find a way to be free...

Originally posted by Sefter
Are his sons definitely dead?? I mean is it really them (I'm not claiming a conspiracy theory here). I was just wondering if anyone knew them well enough to recognize their faces, because I haven't seen any comparisons at all, just the pictures. Their bodyguards, and Tareq Aziz, to name a few.

Clockwood:

Capture him. A very public trial where we bring up every horrible thing he ever did should help break his reputation there. We can allways kill him later.

Trials are so 20th century. We've moved on. We lynch, sorry, I mean liquidate 'bad men'. We don't need a trial to know just how bad they are. Courts and things just end up protecting the guilty and hurting the weak.

In this fast-moving world where gratification must be instant and political fortunes turn in a day we have no time left for due process. We must sort out problems and then move on. And we must do it quickly.

Kill Saddam immediately - enjoy the moment. It'll be great - we'll all feel better.

And as long as no one has the time (or right?) to mention that we are destorying all that we have held dear, we can all feel really, really good about our righteous selves.

Kill Saddam immediately - enjoy the moment. It'll be great - we'll all feel better.


You do realize how inhumane u sound, you claim to be different from Saddam? Saddam lingo on that entire post.

Originally posted by otheadp
i can't wait to see those pictures of him on TV being a broken old man who lost a kingdom, 2 sons and grandson, and in the hands of his hated enemy.

yes, indeed it's in the US's best interest to catch him alive

i find it very sad when we one man can find pleasure in another man's pain. yes saddam did a lot of wrong.. i would find no pleasure, however, in seeing a broken man, who has last his two sons, and his grandson. knowing he can not harm any other people is a whole different thing, a very good thing. but the fact that he himself is in terrible pain... does not give me any pleasure at all.

i find it very sad when we one man can find pleasure in another man's pain.

You would feel differently if you lived under his rule. This is a man that has killed and repressed many people. I don't care if they tie him to a motorcade.

Originally posted by fadingCaptain
You would feel differently if you lived under his rule. This is a man that has killed and repressed many people. I don't care if they tie him to a motorcade.

it would not change anything, at least for me. his actions (the terrible killing and repression you speak of) will stop.. this brings a smile to my face... him in pain... well basically wouldn't solve anything... well except for the whole revenge thing that humans crave so badly

WTF do you people think? We're gonna march in with handcuffs and take him alive? Even if we would have cornered, I doubt he will let HIMSELF be taken alive. He'd take a gun to his head.

Are u suggesting that he won't pull a Tojo? LOL, and secondly if he is still alive do we just kill him, like he did thousands of others? :rolleyes:

I think the best scenario would be to capture him and put him in an orange suit with handcuffs and leg chains.

Only problem is that as long as he is alive, there will be radicals trying to push their/his old agenda. The world is better off with him six feet under. (layin right next to Osama Bin Laden)

I see we have found yet another "gun ho" moron on this thread. If you do that do u think you are any better than Saddam? Obviously you enjoy the pain of enemies like Saddam did. You would have been a great aid to Saddam you know.

Originally posted by nico
I see we have found yet another "gun ho" moron on this thread. If you do that do u think you are any better than Saddam? Obviously you enjoy the pain of enemies like Saddam did. You would have been a great aid to Saddam you know.

exactly my poin thank you nico :eek:

nico:
You do realize how inhumane u sound, you claim to be different from Saddam? Saddam lingo on that entire post.


You do understand the conept of irony don't you?

That you did not spot that and took my words at face value just shows how bad the situation has now become.

I admire your wiggling skills Captain, but I know u want Saddam to die like the way he kills countless others. Sick.