Will anti Israel racists say: 'Israel suffers for the US'?

1.) http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-05-02T141940Z_01_L02627060_RTRUKOC_0_UK-NUCLEAR-IRAN.xml Iran threatens Israel Reuters. UK By Edmund Blair. TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran threatened on Tuesday to attack Israel in response to any "evil" act by the United States and said it had enriched uranium to a level close to the maximum compatible with civilian use in power stations. ...

2) In Chavez's anti Us drive: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0929/p01s01-woam.html Chávez's anti-US campaign, he aligned himself with the Jihadi Hitler of our time that threatned to wipe off entire nation of Israel. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2363447,00.html Chavez and Ahmadinejad cement their alliance.

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Flashback.
Remember Iraq's Saddam Hussein's firing of scuds onto Israeli civilians because US bombed his infrastructure in 1991? (BBC ON THIS DAY 18 1991: Iraqi Scud missiles hit Israel Iraq fired Scud missiles at Israeli cities again the next day and throughout the Gulf War, but failed to provoke Israel into unilateral retaliation. .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/18/newsid_4588000/4588486.stm )

Israel is built on American tax money. Without the US, Israel wouldn't even be there and Palestine would be peaceful.

s0meguy, really? how about some historical facts to back this up, as far as I know it wasn't until 1967 that we gave any real support to Israel, they seem to have had no problem defending them selves up to then, they were established in 1948, under U.N. mandate, and born in war, what better right do they need to justify their existence.

How about you open your eyes and review Israel's history with objectivity, and not only the crap that fits in to your world. I'm not going to waste any more time with you.

s0meguy, so you don't have the fact to back up your prejudice?

Israel is built on American tax money. So is Arab Egypt, Arab Jordan, what is your point?

Middle east would be peaceful, you mean like Islamic Turks massacred 1.5 Million Christian Armenians in 1915 for example?
Or are you referring to Egyptian Jihad by the "Muslim Brotherhood" on other Egyptians, or the Egyptian Muslims war on the Coptic Christians, or -
Muslims bloodshed on Christians in Lebanon for such a long history?
Or maybe you mean the Algerian Muslims war on other Algerian Muslims, that killed over 100,000 already?
Did you forget the Druze persecuted by your beloved Syrian dictators?
Were you that "sorry" for the 1,000,000 dead at the Iraq Iran war?
Or are you referring to most Arab Muslims regimes oppression of their own people?

How about if Islamofascism extremism (that loves to blame their crimes on Zionists victims) wouldn't exist all would be fine.

Did he say the word "objectivity" at the same breath of the venemous extreme Arabism rant?

Being opposed to apartheid Israel does not equal racism. Typical, boring and been done before over & over again this type of rightist Judeo-Fascist bait is tossed around like damp feces by Israel apologists and their mafia in Washington. I support Meretz and elements of the Israeli Communist Party. I view Mordechai Vanunu as a hero. My enemy is Israelism, zionism, apartheid and the fascist settler movement.

As for the OP? Israel & the USA are terrorist states that feed eachother. Israel controls US foreign policy and the USA is the pimp for Israel, providing all the welfare they need to continue their rogue state status. Completely helpless on their own they are the 51st State and need our welfare to survive.

Israel doesn't suffer because of her alignment with the US ....Israel suffers because her neighbors are vicious, nasty, killers who blow up Israel's women and children!

Baron Max

Baron, of course mainly you are correct, my point was referred to those that castiage the US for siding with the victim of fascistic terror, namely Israel.

Genji, the Arabists that (Arab Muslim world is virtually mostly APARTHEID (http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch) especially against Jews) that always look to dramatize (their racist proapganda against the little non Arab non Muslim secular free for all, equal to all democratic entity (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html) ) with "definitions"... mention this ridiculous word, with a straight face lying of course, when it comes to the multi racial multi culture multi coloured (from blond to black... Iranian, Iraqi, Moroccan, Indian, Latino, and even Chinese origin) Israel, but it is not funny any more.

Nuke 'em!

:D

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Genji, the Arabists that (Arab Muslim world is virtually mostly APARTHEID (http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch) especially against Jews) that always look to dramatize (their racist proapganda against the little non Arab non Muslim secular free for all, equal to all democratic entity (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf18.html) ) with "definitions"... mention this ridiculous word, with a straight face lying of course, when it comes to the multi racial multi culture multi coloured (from blond to black... Iranian, Iraqi, Moroccan, Indian, Latino, and even Chinese origin) Israel, but it is not funny any more.Judeofascism is not a benefit to the USA or anyone in the region except the perpetually whining and handwringing Jews. The AllStar Victims of the world. :rolleyes: I am sick of financing this terrorist state with my tax dollars and wonder when, if ever, the Jews will be self sufficient for the 1st time.

genji, the racist term you used is not only racist but utterly plain false, even if you don't like how Israel fights the terrorists, racism has nothing to do with it, besides, Israel, legally, government, etc. is utterly secular, Not "religious", as I said it's not only racist to say what you said but false 100%..
As to your phony claim (and racist in it's singling out Israel) of "financing" I can't hear you complaining about Tax money to oppressive totalitarian Islamic state of Egypt.

genji, the racist term you used is not only racist but utterly plain false, even if you don't like how Israel fights the terrorists, racism has nothing to do with it, besides, Israel, legally, government, etc. is utterly secular, Not "religious", as I said it's not only racist to say what you said but false 100%..
As to your phony claim (and racist in it's singling out Israel) of "financing" I can't hear you complaining about Tax money to oppressive totalitarian Islamic state of Egypt.Israel is an apartheid terrorist state. Built on theft and Judeo-fascism. ENTIRELY dependent on US tax dollars to survive. Without my money they wouldn't exist. Her destruction and the creation of a socialist Arab Palestine is what I endorse and hope for. As for other countries soaking up US welfare and cash?? Saudi Arabia, Colombia and Turkey are the worst money suckers. But Israel leads the pack of failed states on welfare by leaps & bounds.

Her destruction and the creation of a socialist Arab Palestine is what I endorse and hope for.

Prick! Anyone who'd say something like that, much less actually believe it, is worth virtually nothing in my view.

Baron Max

Prick! Anyone who'd say something like that, much less actually believe it, is worth virtually nothing in my view.

Baron MaxEven if I'm wearing expensive underwear?? :confused:

Israel is an apartheid terrorist state. Built on theft and Judeo-fascism. ENTIRELY dependent on US tax dollars to survive. Without my money they wouldn't exist. Her destruction and the creation of a socialist Arab Palestine is what I endorse and hope for. As for other countries soaking up US welfare and cash?? Saudi Arabia, Colombia and Turkey are the worst money suckers. But Israel leads the pack of failed states on welfare by leaps & bounds.
Hi Genji,

I hope you are well

Egypt is in their too as taking lots of "aid" money from the US

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take care zak

Hi Genji,

I hope you are well

Egypt is in their too as taking lots of "aid" money from the US

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take care zak
I do not support the Mubarak government but Egypt isn't invading neighboring countries, bombing refugee camps, kidnapping people and doing the dirty work for US warhawks.

So is Arab Egypt, Arab Jordan, what is your point?

Middle east would be peaceful, you mean like Islamic Turks massacred 1.5 Million Christian Armenians in 1915 for example?
Or are you referring to Egyptian Jihad by the "Muslim Brotherhood" on other Egyptians, or the Egyptian Muslims war on the Coptic Christians, or -
Muslims bloodshed on Christians in Lebanon for such a long history?
Or maybe you mean the Algerian Muslims war on other Algerian Muslims, that killed over 100,000 already?
Did you forget the Druze persecuted by your beloved Syrian dictators?
Were you that "sorry" for the 1,000,000 dead at the Iraq Iran war?
Or are you referring to most Arab Muslims regimes oppression of their own people?

How about if Islamofascism extremism (that loves to blame their crimes on Zionists victims) wouldn't exist all would be fine.

If you're going to spout off all the wrong-doings that Arabs have done against Christians, why not spout off all the wrong-doings that Christians and Western countries have done to others.

You refer to the Iran-Iraq War? It's fitting that the US supplied a lot of the arms (including WMD) and money to support Hussein's wars against Iran. When Hussein gassed the Kurds by the thousands with American-supplied WMDs, who looked the other way? The Americans.

The Catholic Church looking away while the Nazis murdered Jews? How America, Canada, and the Western world for the most part wouldn't allow the Jews to emigrate to those countries while the Jews were being discriminated against and killed? Isn't looking away and refusing them entry just as bad as the killing itself?

What about all the Saudi Arabian princes funding fundamentalism, yet the US doesn't reprimand them for their crimes? Oh, right...they have oil.

If you're going to dig into history, let's dig into history.

Need I remind you of the Crusades? When the Crusaders massacred Jews, Muslims, and even Christians alike? Remember, it was the Arabs that allowed Jews and Christians to worship freely. It was the Seljuk Turks and Mameluks that disagreed with that policy. The Fatimids, Ayyubids, Umayyads, and Abbasids were fairly tolerant.

Need I remind you of the Inquisition? The forced expulsion of the Jews and Muslims from Spain?

If you want, I can dig up more.

The fact is, the Middle East has had a history of bloodshed, lies, and deceit. All people: Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all responsible for the killings, lies, and deceit. All the Western countries and all the Arab countries are responsible. Pointing fingers and blaming a certain group won't help and is frankly incorrect. ALL OF US have a hand in it.

I think a lot of people need a dose of reality by reading this article:

Criticize Israel? You're an Anti-Semite! (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-brooks1sep01,0,4657959.column?coll=la-util-opinion-sunday)

Criticize the policies of Russia, it's ok. Criticize the policies of America, it's ok. Criticize the policies of Iraq, it's ok. But criticize the policies of Israel, and you're an anti-Semite and a racist.

Wonderful double standard! And denying that fact is a lie.

I've never seen people who can be manipulated by the media or by someone’s bullshits as the American (with my all do respect). The media or .... can simply convince almost every body that this black car is white (while it is actually black)!!!!!!!! and this is what is going on with many of you guys.

it is exactly like when we see Robert Deniro Or Alpacino in a movie playing as killers (killing innocent people to steel or to do whatever)..Who is NOT going to support their characters in the movie (at least) emotionally?
nobody, who can not support a character played by a big deal like alpacino? even if he is playing as a thief or a murderer or ....

and this is what I really see in here.

someone will simply state some of the historical stories (most likely taken or copied from the internet) and of course most if not all are completely wrong showing himself as the smart guy in history. Very funny.
one thing about history to know is that the winner most likely is the one going to write it.

We can see clearly that both Americans and Arab have black pictures about each other. And to be realistic as a person who lived in both America and Middle East (I believe for enough time) I would say that 70% the black picture about America is correct where only 10% of the Arab (Muslims) black picture is correct. Arab knows about us one thousand times more than what we know about them. Spain is the amazing example I can find ever. The scientific revolution in Europe didn't start from Rome or Greece. It actually did from Spain after 800 of Islamic ruling. One of the first thing the King of Spain did after getting back all of Spanish land from Arab is kicking out the Jews who lived under the Islamic ruling IN PEACE for so long. I didn't get these facts from Arab or Muslims but from European sources and I will not claim that what I say in here is the truth, I shall leave this to you to discover of course in case you got it "history is not what whoever said or published on the internet"

Go to OXFORD University or so many others in Europe you may get a cleaner and more clear history.

history can't be read from wherever, there are many unbiased professors (and Institutes) in Europe and even in the United States who published some stuff which I think they are close enough to the truth.