It appears that Saddam will be hanged anytime within the next 30 days. Will this action by the newly Iraqi government prove to be wrong and more violence and chaos will erupt in Iraq as a result? We'll see. What's your take on this?

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/10/05/387886-clark-hanging-saddam-would-cause-chaos

1. He won't be hanged or executed in any other means for at least 2 years...
2. He should be electrocuted, hooked up to the chair, and waiting when the power comes back.

1. He will be hung within 30 days.
2. It's not wrong, as it is clear Saddam is a murderer, but the Iraqi court is hardly legitimate.
3. I don't see how the violence can get worse.

Hanging him now will lead to a full blown out, no holds barred civil war.

It will create the ultimate power vacuum.

What of the people who sold him the weapons he used?

What of the people who sold him the weapons he used?


That will be ignored of course. The US Government is Holy and uncapable of evil in the eyes of many.
Peace

How will it create a civil war? 90 percent of the people were oppressed under him. It'll cause riotous celebrations if anything. Similarly, there was never any hope he'd come back. Everyone knew he was going to be hanged.

How will it create a civil war? 90 percent of the people were oppressed under him. It'll cause riotous celebrations if anything. Similarly, there was never any hope he'd come back. Everyone knew he was going to be hanged.

His death will finalise the power vacuum that the American invasion created and power vacuums in a country under oppression almost always lead to civil war. And in Iraq, its already begun.

How will it create a civil war? 90 percent of the people were oppressed under him. It'll cause riotous celebrations if anything. Similarly, there was never any hope he'd come back. Everyone knew he was going to be hanged.

Yeah, all true. But this is just one more event that gives sciforums members to make sensationalist posts and to give us dire predictions of the future!

How can we not allow them that simple pleasure? :D

Baron Max

His death will finalise the power vacuum that the American invasion created and power vacuums in a country under oppression almost always lead to civil war. And in Iraq, its already begun.

You don't take the Iraqi elections very seriously, do you? The greater majority of Iraqis voted even under the threat of violence. They also were quite proud to show off their 'purple' fingers. Why do you give that act so little credit, while giving great credit to a few radical Muslims who are killing other Muslims in Iraq?

Why, Sam?

Baron Max

You don't take the Iraqi elections very seriously, do you? The greater majority of Iraqis voted even under the threat of violence. They also were quite proud to show off their 'purple' fingers. Why do you give that act so little credit, while giving great credit to a few radical Muslims who are killing other Muslims in Iraq?

Why, Sam?

Baron Max


What does that have to do with the civil war going on right now? Wait a minute, is there a civil war going on right now?

What does that have to do with the civil war going on right now?

You wouldn't understand, Sam. Try another forum somewhere.

Baron Max

You wouldn't understand, Sam. Try another forum somewhere.

Baron Max

Surely you are capable of explaining your own point of view?

After all, you are pretty quick to express what you think mine is all over the forum.:rolleyes:

So what do the elections have to do with the existing civil war in Iraq?

And do you or do you not acknowledge that there is a civil war in Iraq right now?

Bye, Sam. I'm off to do something far, far more important than to banter with you about Sadman and that stinkin' mess over yonder ....I'm gonna' go watch some good ol' porno and drink some Irish coffee. I think the new film is where one white girls "gives her all" to 35 black guys who have huge, telephone-pole-like cocks! How much more fun it that, huh? :D

Baron Max

SamCDKey:

The power vacuum is filled by a government that is doing reasonably well. What is needed is more troops until things die down, although if one really wanted to deal with things, one would resort to my Machiavellian suggestions.

although if one really wanted to deal with things, one would resort to my Machiavellian suggestions.

Which are?

1. He will be hung within 30 days.

We have a running bet there. Price: a lollipop.

2. It's not wrong,

Nobody said it was wrong. It is politically not advisable right now...

Also we might have to put him back to his place, because he was the only one to be able to run that place...

3. I don't see how the violence can get worse.

Well, it is independent from Saddam. More soldiers, more violence...

although if one really wanted to deal with things, one would resort to my Machiavellian suggestions.Which were what - I didn't see them.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=61434

I really don't see how it can be anything other than wrong.

Under Iraqi Law Saddam had the authority to militarily prevent Kurdish and/or Shia rebellions. I do not see how it could be anything other than Legal? Saddam is considered a hero by many Iraqis and we will forever remain mired in this shithole Bush Jr. dug us into until Amercians begin to realize this. Anyway, Saddam tried for decades to repress religious identity and create a secular Iraqi national identity – and yet these dimwits in Washington with their heads so far up their arse think that giving people the oh-so glorious god given right to “vote” will then call forth these magical little shit fairies whom will float down from heaven and poof with a twinkle of a wand Iraqies will support a secular Iraqi State?
How bloody stupid is that?!?!
Iraqis will simply vote for their religious leaders and as soon as we leave vote in a Theocracy for a government which will have then have a mandate to put the squeeze on the other religous fractions. Don't be surprized if Kurds side with the same Sunni Arabs that were trying to kill them under Saddam!
Just think of the way Bush played off American’s regligous gullibility. Hell, one would think half the USA wants a Xian theocracy running our country??! And that’s after 200+ years of secular government!!!!

Summary – its legally and morally wrong to murder Saddam,
:)
Michael II

He'll be hung in public for all to see, then the insurgents and his hidden elite republican guard will merge on the area and break him free...

- N

He'll be hung in public for all to see, then the insurgents and his hidden elite republican guard will merge on the area and break him free...

No, he's being hanged inside a prison where the gallows is being built as we speak. It will NOT be a public hanging in the town square, but it will be televised/taped for future airing if deemed appropriate.

Baron Max

I don't support corporal punishment in any form, even for Saddam.

I don't support corporal punishment in any form, even for Saddam.

Corporal punishment? Ya' mean you don't think he should be spanked??

Or did you mean "capital" punishment?

Baron Max

he should be electrocuted with low current through cables connected to his balls. not too low... just low enough so he suffers long enough, and doesn't die right away (a la Khomeini Doctorine about stoning women)

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as for the prudence of executing Saddam, it doesn't really matter. there's an insurgency while he's alive, and there will be one after he's gone. terrorists won't receive new capabilities once Saddam dies... they'll just keep doing what they're doing... in other words, there will probably be no impact.

but it'll remind Arab dictators, as it reminded them when Saddam-turned-Santa appeared on TV being checked for lice by a American military doctor, to get their shit together.

but it'll remind Arab dictators...

...that they should gas people only with Western approval... :bugeye:

...that conspiracy-minded posters on sciforums will still support them ;)

Corporal punishment? Ya' mean you don't think he should be spanked??
Or did you mean "capital" punishment?

Baron Max
Sorry. You are right, I ment capital.