My hubby and I have discussed this before and if it weren't for the kids (and the decision we made that our daughters should have the last name of both parents), then we would just be living together, WITHOUT being legally married. We both find the idea of marriage to be ridiculous. Why not just live together? Is it for the lower taxes?... otherwise, doesn't it seem pointless? Could the government be swaying people to get married by rewarding married couples with a lower tax bracket? Could that be part of the reason why divorce is so acceptable? Weddings...scoff...It seems kind of arrogant to spend a bunch of money for an elaborate party for YOURSELF and your mate and ask family, friends, and acquaintances to buy you gifts. What about from the "Christian" point of view? Why do Christians find it so wrong to simply live together? Is it for the sake of the law? But what about choice? Maybe I'm just being fussy but... What are your thoughts? Do you plan to get married? Yes or No Why? [Edit:] I edited the content because I didn't like the wording.
Marriage is pretty pointless in my opinion. The main reason to marry is to spend the rest of your life with someone. Do you really need to get married for that? No. Why spend thousands on something that basically says to people that you love someone so much you want to spend the rest of your life with them? You could use that money for more practical things, like a shiney new car or even a down payment on a mortgage or how about a once in a lifetime trip around the world. Wouldn't that be more useful than saying 'Hey, I'm married!' I can understand getting married for children. Could just changing your name count? Just a passing thought. Yeah, so anyway, why get married just to say you love someone (and also the financial benefits that come with it) when you could put the time and money to good use. I wander if there's some kind of ancient ritual that marries people, like a waving of a stick or something. So much cheaper. And as for divorce, some opinions is that because it's more socialablly acceptable it's happening more often. Also with equal rights women now feel that they can leave their man unlike 50 years ago when divorce was only talked about behind closed doors. I myself do not plan on getting married, but if I have to and my girlfriend changes her mind and says 'Hey, I want to get married' then I probably would but it'll be as small a do as possible with a few witnesses unless I've been ordered otherwise [SIZE=-1]Edited due to wesmorrisbaba changing everything, gah![/SIZE]
Marriage rules! It's a way of being serious about long term planning. Christianity sucks, and every Christian should probably be shot in the head.
[Thor]: Thank you for your comments. I do agree with you. You've made some fine points. [Prozak]: Hmm...I don't think that every Christian should be shot in the head, although, I don't agree with their viewpoints, but why do you support marriage? Isn't getting married and living together the same thing, except without it being law-binding? I'm not anti-government, although there are some things about the government I find to be ridiculous, but I just don't understand what the big deal is about making it known to the government that you have pledged your love to your mate, and plan to spend your life together, unless it's for that tax break. I'm hoping that someone would argue with me about this.
Just for believing that people should be married? Or just in general? This is why this forum needs an age limit. The main purpose of marriage is just the symbolic joining of two people until they die. I can't wait till I find the "right" person to settle down with and make that commitment. Personally, I may not feel like blowing my life savings for the ceremony or anything that extreme. As far as the Christian side of it, I really think it boils down to the view of sex outside of marriage as a sin. So the only way to circumvent that is marriage. I'm sure it extends much deeper than that, but that really seems to be the bulk of it.
Why would you need to marry though? Marriage should not be seen as a commitment. You can symbolise the same thing just by living together and devoting yourself to their needs and vice versa. So yeah, why blow your life savings on one day and saying you're legally in love with someone when you can use the money and get that little it more from life for longer with the person you love?
Monogamy... *chuckles* People want to get married so they can be tied up with their 'only' love forever, fearing what would happen if the other person found someone more interesting or better suited and thus, would leave them: marriage also brings about a lot of problems for those who wish to separate so this is also a reason why so many who marry STAY married. What I said applies to many 'lucky' insecure males, which means it isn't true for all, thank god Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I don't intend on making that "commitment", so NO to marriage.
Marriage is a status symbol amoung women. A lot of women freak out when they are 30 and not married. Living together with a guy is not the same. They want the ring and being able to talk about their husbands and kids.
I want to get married but the problem is no one wants to get married with me...call me old fashioned but i want to wake up everyday next to that amazing wife of mine and kiss her before she wakes up and just smell her skin....but nope not happeneing anytime soon i guess....oh well I think their is nothing wrong with marriage, what is wrong is what the society has turned marriage into....it is a joke these days...so yes i would marryPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
will you marry me sarg? besides the legal aspect of it, which is quite beneficial to all involved, there is the ceremony. if you were to have a wiccan handfasting without a marriage license the meaning would be the same. it is getting your friends together for a party celebrating your love and commitment to each other. everyone gets to get all gussied up to launch the combined life of two people together. maybe they had been living together for a while and they could easily keep living together without the wedding but it provides a milestone to refer to. "on this day, we got up in front of our families and friends and vowed this and that to each other making it official" it's not necessary to get married to have a life together but if it is something you would like to do then do it. if you're going to be living with someone you might as well get married without a ceremony for the legal rights. if something happens to one spouse, the other is taken care of. they become a member of the immediate family. you can sign documents for each other such as if one ends up in the hospital. you can combine your finances and pay joint taxes. in the case of breaking up (divorce) the lower income member is entitled to support. if you're just living together and one cheats, you simply break up and move out. if you're married, you can get alimony payments. i'd also like to make a case for gay marriages here. edit to add: i want to get married because i never know what to call that person who i go out and stay in with. i'm too old to say "meet my boyfriend". i'm too straight to say "meet my significant other". i'm too non-rednecky to say "meet my lover". i'd spend $40,000 to use the titles husband/wife.
Swedish you wanna marry me???? why????:bugeye: ...i am honored howeverPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
i felt bad that you said no one wants to get married to you. i like you and i could certainly use the new food processor.
For women, economic security maybe. As a random Manson groupie put it: "I fuck you so that someday I'll have half of everything you own". Children. Provide them a semi-secure parental bond. I suppose beyond that it's simply a matter of tradition. I'd never marry, simply because I find the associations to be repugnent.
Great now i am also pathetic...*sigh*.....*grabs ring and gets down on knee*...well you better stay with your word now.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Xev, the Manson quote is from the song "Para-noir" on the new album. It's spoken in the song by his girlfriend, Dita von Teese. You know, wesmorrisbabe, I really think your argument is pointless, because if two people live together for a certain period of years (I forget the number), and "act married" by supporting each other financially, having kids, etc., then BY LAW they are considered legally married, even without passing through the ceremony. There are ways to bypass an expensive ceremony and save the money, because that's just for tradition's sake, but marriage in and of itself is a fundamental institution in society today. So there. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Really? Civility? i thought selflessness and geberal goodwill toward others promotes civility. A image of a happy house hold does seem comforting at times but i doubt that household is as happy as they seem. In today's world marriage is a joke....divorces, emotionally sccared kids, ugly separations, custody battles, and let's not forget the celeberity marriages....those are the real jokes. I guess we are at odds on this one FredxPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ...*strikes kung fu pose*
I'm proud to say I agree with sargentlard on this one. Fredx, usually I enjoy your posts and such more so than almost any other user, but sometimes you're full of shit. Your answer just wasn't well thought-out. (See also: Fredx's post about Tool and Pink Floyd in the Arts & Culture forum.)
god is irrelevant said: "You know, wesmorrisbabe, I really think your argument is pointless, because if two people live together for a certain period of years (I forget the number), and "act married" by supporting each other financially, having kids, etc., then BY LAW they are considered legally married, even without passing through the ceremony. There are ways to bypass an expensive ceremony and save the money, because that's just for tradition's sake, but marriage in and of itself is a fundamental institution in society today." then he said: "I'm proud to say I agree with sargentlard on this one. Fredx, usually I enjoy your posts and such more so than almost any other user, but sometimes you're full of shit. Your answer just wasn't well thought-out. (See also: Fredx's post about Tool and Pink Floyd in the Arts & Culture forum.)" hmm...which god is irrelevant should I listen to?
