Why can't we all just get along??? Seriously. Everyone needs to stop attacking eachother because of thier personal beliefs. There is nothing to be solved. Let people believe what they want to believe, despite whether you feel it is wrong or right, and shut the hell up and leave them alone. If anyone has a direct problem with another member, settle it privately.

Why can't we all just get along??? Seriously.

Humans don't know how to do that. We can all talk a big, tolerance game, but we can't do it. We can talk about "loving each other", but we don't know how, can't do it.

But just so you know, should we all try to get along with murderers, rapists, robbers, burglars, terrorists, ...., too? I mean, they're people, too, ain't they?

Baron Max

humans by their very nature are aggressive and violent

The problem is that the doctrine of the two major religions, Christianity and Islam, have it that their adherents attempt to convert others (spread the word), or that, in the case of Islam - the whole world must be turned to Islam.

We can never have peace while these two intrusive monsters are trampling and forcing their ideas on others throughout the world.

Now when such beliefs begin to intrude into government and schools then I'm not prepared to be tolerant of their ideas when my life and survival are threatened.

Humans don't know how to do that. We can all talk a big, tolerance game, but we can't do it. We can talk about "loving each other", but we don't know how, can't do it.

But just so you know, should we all try to get along with murderers, rapists, robbers, burglars, terrorists, ...., too? I mean, they're people, too, ain't they?

Baron Max

My post is regarding the other posts that were outright insulting Theists and Atheists. This has nothing to do with murderers, rapists or anything of the sort. Quite frankly, I don't care who believes what. But I DO care when people start fighting like children over something so insignificant. People are posting meaningless bullshit in order to start a conflict and its a waste of time and space.

Quite frankly, I don't care who believes what. But I DO care when people start fighting like children of something so insignificant. People are posting meaningless bullshit in order to start a conflict and its a waste of time and space.

Agreed. But that isn't going to stop it, ya' know.

Baron Max

Agreed. But that isn't going to stop it, ya' know.

Baron Max

But one can try. :shrug:

When you promote peace, your chances of getting peace are greater. When you promote conflict, your chances of getting conflict are greater.

It is interesting that humans can get along with each other while trading,

commerce, vacations, foods, entertainment, traveling and so on. As soon as

humans start talking religion something goes very wrong and we seem to

lose the tolerances we had for everything else. I just wonder why

something that is supposed to unite humans is always making problems

instead. I would think it is because of the leaders of those religions not

being reasonable and trying to stop the prejudices before they get out of

hand.

Agreed. But that isn't going to stop it, ya' know.

Baron Max

We are never all going to "GET ALONG" and why should we? If I don't like somebody for whatever reason, I am not going to PRETEND I do.:bugeye:

No but if someone has a problem with another member, its not looked kindly upon when one posts a thread insulting them. Handle it directly and privately.

If someone wants to have an open discussion regarding someone elses religious beliefs, approach the issue reasonably and without insult.

No but if someone has a problem with another member, its not looked kindly upon when one posts a thread insulting them. Handle it directly and privately.

If someone wants to have an open discussion regarding someone elses religious beliefs, approach the issue reasonably and without insult.

like in a PM? I agree. And then a whole thread gets started dedicated to those PMs. So why bother, might as well bring it to the board in the first place, at least with that person.

and some people want to play out their apology in public and not a PM.

all is drama and the attention it brings.

Humans don't know how to do that. We can all talk a big, tolerance game, but we can't do it. We can talk about "loving each other", but we don't know how, can't do it....

Oh, they know how. They just don't want to.

Well, I've said what I wanted to say. What happens from here on out is up to everyone else. Just thought I would provide a level balance to the madness.

No but if someone has a problem with another member, its not looked kindly upon when one posts a thread insulting them. Handle it directly and privately.

If someone wants to have an open discussion regarding someone elses religious beliefs, approach the issue reasonably and without insult.

It is extremely insulting to have Christians and Muslims demand I convert to their beliefs and that I live my life subservient to their gods.

It is extremely insulting that these cults build there churches and mosques all over the place free of any taxes.

It is extremely insulting that they have their beliefs controlling the decision making processes of states and governments.

I am only too happy to return the favor.

It is extremely insulting to have Christians and Muslims demand I convert to their beliefs and that I live my life subservient to their gods.

It is extremely insulting that these cults build there churches and mosques all over the place free of any taxes.

It is extremely insulting that they have their beliefs controlling the decision making processes of states and governments.

I am only too happy to return the favor.

And I think very few people are disagreeing with you. However, fighting fire with fire does not extenguish the flame.

and some people want to play out their apology in public and not a PM.


Well, Im pretty sure no one here has a problem with an apology, public or private.

And I think very few people are disagreeing with you. However, fighting fire with fire does not extenguish the flame.

Education, reason and rationale fail miserably with those cults. By doing nothing, we allow them to spread their disease throughout mankind.

What do you suggest we do?

Education, reason and rationale fail miserably with those cults. By doing nothing, we allow them to spread their disease throughout mankind.

What do you suggest we do?

I am not saying to do nothing. I am saying that insults will only cause more drama and no resolution. As I said previously, approach the issue reasonably and without insult. Express your side, listen to thiers. If no resolution can be reached, try again later. That's all you can do.

Look, people are all different. No two people in this entire planet are going to share the same beliefs about everything. And if someone is not willing to take one side into concideration, there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it. The only thing you CAN do is express your side to them and hope that they are willing to listen.

I am not saying to do nothing. I am saying that insults will only cause more drama and no resolution. As I said previously, approach the issue reasonably and without insult. Express your side, listen to thiers. If no resolution can be reached, try again later. That's all you can do.

That has been tried and has failed, miserably. You cannot talk to theists who live their lives in fantasies. They do not express ideas, they regurgitate delusions.

Look, people are all different. No two people in this entire planet are going to share the same beliefs about everything. And if someone is not willing to take one side into concideration, there is absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it. The only thing you CAN do is express your side to them and hope that they are willing to listen.

That is exactly the problem, they aren't willing to listen. Their cults are formed from hatred and bigotry that deny knowledge and education and consider them evil. Their delusions poison the minds of people. Their diseased beliefs are and will continue to be the downfall of all mankind.

you know sometimes

Words ought to be a little wild for they are the assault
of thoughts on the unthinking."
John Maynard Keynes ;)

It is extremely insulting to have Christians and Muslims demand I convert to their beliefs and that I live my life subservient to their gods.

It is extremely insulting that these cults build there churches and mosques all over the place free of any taxes.

It is extremely insulting that they have their beliefs controlling the decision making processes of states and governments.

I am only too happy to return the favor.
I'm with you there buddy.

there is three major religions and any religion you go to they are goin to try and convert you

It is extremely insulting to have Christians and Muslims demand I convert to their beliefs and that I live my life subservient to their gods.

It is extremely insulting that these cults build their churches and mosques all over the place free of any taxes.

It is extremely insulting that they have their beliefs controlling the decision making processes of states and governments.

I am only too happy to return the favor.

Wholeheartedly second those statements.

there is three major religions and any religion you go to they are goin to try and convert you

Only three? You must not be counting buddists.

the cults believe in the dark angel and satan all that is that right

well the solution would be show them one let the daqrk angel tell them to settle down
with people like other religeons kinda make me giggle cause they go right u are gonna get it now my angels gonna get yous and they do more damage trying to get their angels to comunicate with them then the angel they prolly still looking at their clocks and saying well i better get a phone or sumthing to that effect

catholics are saying well jesus will send u all to bloody well hell cop that you people ....like that

the asians say no no the delai lama is not gonna tell people they can live again and again were gonna stop yous

and well the ahm aboriginese are saying well i reckon my boomerang has the secret and will bring it back and then youn all will cop it then

and when you look at em they are childish and silly but they all have one thing in common they say we all gonna cop it one way or other

is like a chain reaction of people believing in one thing
when a child is boring what do you do for em
give em a toy or create a diversion
before they get intelligent and create the diversion themselves and then they still will be childish wont they
but if you beat the anti to the ball first well..... you never know right i know i donthave degrees but i read sum stuff bout that french guy that wrote a book bout the future ahm nosridamus he said the anti creates diversions well beat him at it
make our own you guys arent stupid you can doit on ur pc thru the gift of gab dont go to religon start thinking what will be there next move to reak havok


and bet u nine outta ten u win and peace is the more pwerful
member love is strong too

But I DO care when people start fighting like children over something so insignificant.

It is not insignificant.
It is a matter of life and death.
It is a matter of life and death - in that depending on how a person conceives of life, of themselves, of others, is how they will live, what actions they will take and what actions they will omit, what they will approve and what they will condemn.


People are posting meaningless bullshit in order to start a conflict and its a waste of time and space.

I'm seeing this more as an issue of not yet being able to formulate one's basic existential doubts.

It is difficult to present a case against religion and not sound offensive to theists, from the get go that one pronounces their lack of belief, there's mistrust and ominous feelings towards the atheist. Theist feel threatened just by the knowledge that a particular person they know is an atheist, be him/her their own family member or just a friend.

Theist confuse the atheist, non believer as being deluded, sick or in denial of what they think is obvious, they are right and fundamentally the atheist is plainly wrong. Theist are beyond the reach of reason or logic, as been demonstrated throughout this forum and others all over the web including YouTube rants against atheist pro's and cons of the argument.

Theists feel threatened with the new surge of atheist fire that is rising throughout much of the free world, and unfortunately they've got the guns, the politicians, the media, and an overwhelming number of ignorant masses believing that theirs is the truth of salvation.

So yea! man when they come to a scientific forum, we feel that here, we got every damn right to bitch, call names, and even get a warning every once in while for being too damn direct! Just call these forums stress therapy, we get out our frustrations here, dumb ass arguments are really not much tolerated, we see them on a daily basis, this is science, this is where they've got a chance to present scientific empirical evidence or at the very least a logical argument for their ideology which basically is a bowl of shit in the scesspool we call the world!

lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya

lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya

:roflmao: HAHA... make sure you wash them first!