Who comes to the the Pseudoscience for Comedy relief? I know I do :D In fact I find all the sub-forums under "subculture" funny! Just wanted to know if I was the only one?

You mean that the pseudoscience, and Parapsychology bordes weren't meant to be jokes?

I don't think the subject of "pseudoscience" is a joke. Unfortunately most of the people interested in it are so I tend to avoid this forum.

I come here because while you have to sift through pages of crud, most of todays science started out in a place like this. You find the real gems covered in dirt.

I don't think soemthing being a pseudo science makes it incorrect. It simply means it has not yet been put properly into the context of science. Many ancient medicines and herbal remedies that are notw extracted or synthesized were once pseudo science because they had not yet been properly science-ized :). Now the drug companies and chemists have them and have examed and tested them using the scientific method and they are true science.

I feel other things will be the same.

-AntonK

Well, I must admit that I do come here for comic relief. I laugh a lot at certain things, but I also take some of it pretty seriously. I mean, I don't like to make fun, I'm just the kind of person who has fun and sees the humour in everything.

I actually come here for decent discussion...not comedy relief. Many people here believe to have some sort of powers and i for one cannot laugh at them without knowing all of the facts. They laughed at Columbus for saying the world was round. But most of the time here people seem to say they have a certain gift yet they offer no proof except fluff about us being closeminded and unscientific.

:rolleyes:

I come here for the same reasons that sargentlard comes here for.......and that is a decent disscussion......people who come here for some sort of comedic releif are just plain arrogant.(not spelt right)......ta dah.....

Just bring this back up, I seen more good stuff here lately but its still funny :D

Why do you Come here?

that is a morrisey song and it sounds like you are playing it out
like a sad little stage act in personality drag

ohh well
if it makes you sexualy aroused who are we to deny your perversion
im sure there are enough dominatrix to go around for you
maybe then you will not feel the need to try and make fun of others to satisfy your failing self fullfillment

groove on :)

ripleofdeath,

Are you talking to the wall again? :bugeye: because I have no clue who your talking too or who you think that person is. :confused:

I'm the only one that voted for the butt monkey alternative...? :eek:

About time some one did I was starting to think people were liking me. :D

Bebelina,

I want to know what your color code means?

We can't have you thinking that. :p
Colour code? Well, you tell me.

I have absolutely no clue, I was thinking you might be a synesthesis and different colors represent emotional states for you or something? http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/images/smilies/huh.gif

Maybe they do, but in that case I have no clue either. I haven't given it much thought, but now that you mention it, I tend to use blue when I'm being more serious, but now I must break that pattern, I can't let you all know what I'm feeling, that could be dangerous.
:eek:

My biggest frustration with this particular forum has to do both with the additudes of some of the "skeptics" and the lack of even an ATTEMPT by many of the believers to put their arguments into a concise and functional debate.

The quality of the posters on both sides leaves a lot to be desired, and no one can point a finger on any one side or the other in here for how rediculously devoid of intellectual discourse this particular forum is. I put blaim on the skeptics NOT because they do not demonstrate the tennants of rational thoughts (they do a FINE job making good points most often), but because of the arrogant and snide remarks they sometimes make negate any useful attempt to demonstrate the correct patterns of thinking and discussion we want the believers to use to explain their points. After all, no one wants to immitate in any way the behaviors of someone percieved as an arrogant snide. Furthermore it is a very dirty tactic to willfully, be it intentionally or not, anger an opponent and cloud his thoughts in order to provoke negative responses from him and then use those responses to discredit his case. Unfortunetly such tactics are common in politics and perhaps in our day and age of seeing them demonstrated all too often they have become normal behaviors. This is not a broad attack against skeptics. I have had good discussions in here with people like Hans and Skinwalker, but this is a reminder that for intellectual debate to prosper BOTH sides must maintain mutual respect, and those demanding more rational and clear thought from the believers crowd should model the behaviors they demand of their opponents.

By the same token, advocates of the paranormal are often so caught up in the excitement of what they believe that their emotional reaction to this in itself makes it difficult for them not to come off as dreamers, wishful thinkers, or worse, delusional. This in itself is the first turn-off to skeptics: emotional responses. Second, many advocates of the paranormal simply do not approach the skeptics in the rational, debate and prove style they are accustomed to. This yes, betrays that many believers of the paranormal do not have intensive backgrounds in science or even in academia. Believers are far more prone to releasing the conclusion and think that the skeptic will probably know what they are talking about, and then are honestly shocked when the "smart guy" doesn't have a clue what he is saying! This isn't entirely there fault either. Pick up any good book on science as well, and you will find that it doesn't really teach you how science works, but in most cases only the conclusions that scientists have come to. If the book says that Alpha Centauri is 4 light years away or so, it doesn't tell you that we know this because we know what the speed of light is and we can determine it's distance with a parallax. It only gives you cut in dry, in the end, what the conclusions are. Applied to paranormal phenomenon, the layman who picks up someone's book about UFO's or Bigfoot doesn't have a clue HOW in many cases the paranormal investigator came to the conclusions he did, but rather the conclusions that the person gives them.

This forum is the OPTIMUM place to model out and truly teach how to use the scientific method, but the skeptics are falling down on the job and laypeople have become so set against them this is difficult. After all, if trying to get other people to see your point of view is NOT the point of posting here, what is? It is just that in this particular forum, more effort is required. It is an effort I have many times tried to give, and yes in some peoples minds I might not be the qualified teacher, but I don't see anyone else really trying either.

You can bitch about how sloppy someone else thinks, or you can model for them how to think rationally. I choose the ladder.

Dearprudence

Without proof and evidence what’s to make it believable?

I sorry but thats what makes this place so funny most of what people say is BS and heresay without proof and evidence it must be called Pseudoscience!

Since my original post "Witnesses for a UFO Congressional hearing" was posted to "World News and Politics" and moved
to Pseudoscience by so called intelligent moderators.

You had a valid example of facts in evidence which was moved here only because of the subject, not the content.

I watch those things, they brought no evidence just reports on what people said.

If politicians are having hearings on UFO's, then it is a perfectly valid subject in the discussion of politics as it relates to the subject. Therefore, the Political forum was a VALID place for it to be.

The poster on the wall says it best:
"I want to believe"

I want to see a UFO.
I want to see a ghost.

One of the most important tennants of applying the scientific method is generating results which can be reproduced.

You saw a ghost? Where? When? I want to see it too.

I am a skeptic. Can I see a ghost and still be a skeptic? I hope to find out.

I come here because the big Ego’s usually stay away and let people think freely here.
As for evidence, it seems to be in the eye of the beholder. I think we all pick and choose what we believe to be evidence, based mainly on our experiences and emotions.

To share experiences with other people.
I have personally witnessed a UFO phenomenon with a friend in broad daylight over Kelowna B.C.
I am not exactly sure why I need to come here.
But I do know since I have talked about it on this forum I am much more comfortable with it and it is now a back seat event for me.
I do enjoy talking with others who have had simalar experiences.
People who just want to beleive with out actually ever really seeing anything credible,even to themselves if they asked twice is fine.
I remember how it always sparked my curiocity before I myself had seen them.
And now that I have seen them I really don't think that I am any better off.
I can't really change my life in any way just because of what I saw.
My life goes on.
If you consciously choose not to believe in even the possibilty of the UFO phenomenon,fine.
I would actually consider you lucky in a way.
What good does it do me that I have seen what I have seen?
Nothing,absolutely nothing.
Big deal,what if there is other life out there.Seriously,what is that going to change until there is some actual contact on a large degree.
This situation just is.
Not good,not bad. Is.
I f I didn't beleive in this phenomenon,I definitely would not be on here,and I would probly think that every one was crazy.
Actually now that I remember it,I remember how I used to feel towards others who had said that they had seen UFO's.

You guys must think were just plain fucked.
Don't blame yah.
Anyways,
Fuck I'm Awesome!
:D

Oh god this is to funny, I'm killing my self!
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=506134#post506134

its unfortunate that alot of people view these forums under sub cultures with such, how should i say? "UN-Seriousness" ? i would even say some go to the extent of mocking this section- just like this post here.

in the end it doesnt really matter because the pointless text can be filtered, and we dont have to listen to the people who are posting for reasons other than informative discussion, theoritical tests, and expanding our horizons.

pseudoscience is about NOT HAVING proof, not having much evidence- but rather throwing the IDEA out to test the waters. Its about expressing your own theories and ideals to others for critique and support.

Realize that if people didnt doubt the conventional ideas, we would still beliving on a FLAT earth and who knows what else we would be missing out on.

i come to this forum for insight on new ideas and to give others my take on the universe and all the orderly chaos within it. thats why i come here- and if you were looking for a funny response it ain't here.

WellCookedFetus -- without proof and evidence it is not believable. You're absolutely right. But that's the point, see: I don't need to be accredited for what I experience because I *know* what I've experienced.

So what's the point of posting paranormal experiences? If I post, and risk my candour for my "insanity", it is not for those who seek to be entertained but for those who *know*. Think of it as leap-frogging.

Dearprudence. Your first paragraph makes perfect sense. You experienced something you know can't be faked. But how are we to know right? But others here aren't like you. They push crazy theories and fluff with no evidence and try to force you to believe it too. And if you don't and provide counter-evidence, well you're too closeminded and stupid to understand. I wouldn't do the same to others without resorting to evidential backup.

*bump* I think this should be a sticky, as in its a very relivent subject for all those that complain about or advocate this sub-forum.

"You experienced something you know can't be faked."

anything can be faked, you just believe it wasnt. ive got my theory - women have been faking all the crop circle and ufo stuff. they have been practicing it for thousands of years by faking orgasm, theyre good at it now.

i come here usually cos i have nothing better to do and ive read all the sciforums stuff except the maths, economics and history ones *shudders*
i dont believe any of the ufo stuff, but listening to people talk about it does teach you how to argue with someone about something that they have complete faith in, might be useful later in life.

(after reading my first paragraph, ive decided that i do think most this stuff is a joke)

*bump* . . . . .

I decided to visit this forum for the first time today. So far it has been nothing more than amusing.

Somebody posted that we shouldn't go to war with aliens because they can disarm our nuclear warheads. It reminds me of when me and my friends would pretend to be superheroes growing up, and how we'd always have the perfect special ability to counter each other's special abilities! :D

"I choose Fire Laser!"

"No, I block with crystal shield!"

"Well I switch to supersharp claws to cut through crystal shield!"

"Uh UH!...I turned on my force field so you can't get through!"

Hehe...those were the good old days.

http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/images/smilies/bump.gif . . . . . . . . . .

I had to choose that last option, but only because butt monkey is so great.

In reality, I check out this forum out of curiosity. The things people will believe [myself included!] never ceases to amaze me, and some pretty amazing shit pops up in here.

Yer a sick buttmonkey OCF.

EDITED TO ADD: With a very short memory obviously yah Over Cooked Fetus :D

and I am a goomba?

OCF:
Orangic Custer Frogs?
Origami Crescent Flamingo?
(1,8) Octanechloroflorid?

Over cooked fetus, why am I overcooked I would be burnt black!

These Subcultures are taken for real by someone? I always thought it is the comedy section of sciforums. Seriously some people believe these thing?
Incredible
Truth to tell, I think Pseudosience and the other things located here have as much justification than the Religion themes. All of them talk about things that do not exist and cannot be proven (I am not saying that all of it is false).
Some themes are just too stupid, so I voted for the first option, I just poke into the subcultures now and then.http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/images/smilies/poke.gif

And now, ENTERTAIN ME! :D

(I am not saying that all of it is false)

well step forward and air your crackpot theories
i feel like a laugh

Me? I do not have any theories. My only theory is, that I exist in some way.

(truth, I only wrote "I am not saying that all of it is false" because I felt like encouraging some idiots to write more of this entertaining crap)

thanks.
perhaps you would like to elaborate? what is it about your existence has you in doubt as to its mode?

to distinguish yourself from the crackpots, it might be wise to present a logical progression to your statements. claiming a lack of theories, then presenting one directly after the claim leaves me a bit puzzled

Obviously I exist. After all I am selfaware, I can think about things, I can do things. Shortly I exist. I can not say in what way I exist. It may well be that I am just a character in the dreams and thoughts of a higher being. Perhaps I am just a fiction of your mind. But no matter what I am, I do exist, perhaps I am just imagining your existence? Anyway, I think my existence has been proven. If you want a more elaborate answer, I will gladly open a thread in philosophy, just say so.

It may well be that I am just a character in the dreams and thoughts of a higher being.

i have a feeling that elaborating on this is best done in this particular forum dont you think?
are you postulating the existence of et? perhaps a god?

Ok, here it will be then, should I start right away?
Just wait a few moments, I will create a thread, no need to hijack this one.

But where? Parapsychology or rather Pseudoscience?

Truth to tell, I think Pseudosience and the other things located here have as much justification than the Religion themes. All of them talk about things that do not exist and cannot be proven (I am not saying that all of it is false).

first, i would like you to reconcile the above to your current desire to engage in what appears to be a rather dubious subject

What is dubious? I have proven that I exist, you can not deny it. Alas you can not prove that there is a god or some aliens flying around in their spaceships and so on. (If you can, well, go ahead)

Could I get this stikied Stryderunknown ?

I don't think this would be Sticky material I'm afraid WellCookedFetus, since it's not attempting to cover a pseudoscience topic.

man this thread must be some sort of record...
its been going for about a year and has only generated 3 pages. kudos to you i say.

I think it very important to the psudeoscience forum to track why people come here. Thats why I think it should be a sticky.