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artistmosi
03-24-06, 10:49 AM
Alot of women have been making eye contact with me lately on my way to work. Do they make contact in general, or only with guys they are attracted to? Is there any meaning underneath a female looking at a man or is it just something that they do? What should be the response when a woman makes eye contact? Is that an invitation to start conversation?

Cottontop3000
03-24-06, 11:10 AM
When was the last time you trimmed your nose and ear hair?

Jaybee from his cast
03-24-06, 11:43 AM
Alot of women have been making eye contact with me lately on my way to work. Do they make contact in general, or only with guys they are attracted to? Is there any meaning underneath a female looking at a man or is it just something that they do? What should be the response when a woman makes eye contact? Is that an invitation to start conversation?

Eye contact is the first step to getting laid, so when it happens, widen your eyes slightly and smile. Avoid cheesy opening lines like, "Nice weather", in fact, ask an opening question like, "How long does this train take to Euston?" or something. Always a good icebreaker. Casually mention what you're doing at your destination, and let her engage you in convo - at this point, some girls will, and some won't. Some may be shy about being hit on in full public view, some may feel safer BECAUSE there are others around and can reciprocate. Think nothing of it, it's a numbers game.

A few years back, I was on an evening train from the north of England down to London, there was a older guy (mid/late 40's) and a girl facing each other on the seats to the right of mine, 4 hour journey, the guy engaged the girl in a convo, she was married unhappily, and he oh-so-sweetly got her to open her heart, and not just her heart. By the time we got to London, his tongue was actually down her throat.

I didn't fuck her because I was just too tired, or not drunk enough to bang a dog (she was plain, but if you're horny enough you don't look at the face on her head when her face is on your head). I'm simply making the point that it can happen.


Jaybee.

Theoryofrelativity
03-24-06, 11:50 AM
Alot of women have been making eye contact with me lately on my way to work. Do they make contact in general, or only with guys they are attracted to? Is there any meaning underneath a female looking at a man or is it just something that they do? What should be the response when a woman makes eye contact? Is that an invitation to start conversation?

The days of women casting their eyes downwards in male prescence are long gone, it means ZIPPO! NIL, Nada.

Re Jaybee, he's never been laid so I would not take any advice from him!

illuminatingtherapy
03-24-06, 12:38 PM
Usually, it means they've noticed something about you, maybe even subconsciously. If you're a sleeky bastard, you can exploit it however you want and usually get laid.

PHPlatonica
03-24-06, 02:09 PM
HHhmm..
then does it mean something different if a guy looks into your eyes when you are female?

When I make eye contact, it's usually out of respect, or I Find something interesting in the person I am looking at. If they make eye contact back at me, I smile because I don't want the person to feel Wrongly stared at. Of course, then you get the person who roles there eyes at you and looks away.. but that's another thing. I don't think it instantly means "Screw me baby"... but, it does seem to state that That person doesn't mind being spoken too.
hey, but I could be wrong. Every one is different.

Muslim
03-24-06, 03:48 PM
Alot of women have been making eye contact with me lately on my way to work. Do they make contact in general, or only with guys they are attracted to? Is there any meaning underneath a female looking at a man or is it just something that they do? What should be the response when a woman makes eye contact? Is that an invitation to start conversation?

They are probably thinking who the heck is that ugly git. Na am joking, but if that happen to me I'd get paranoid maybe the government is after you? and they are setting up a honey trap for you?

Muslim
03-24-06, 03:49 PM
HHhmm..
then does it mean something different if a guy looks into your eyes when you are female?

When I make eye contact, it's usually out of respect, or I Find something interesting in the person I am looking at. If they make eye contact back at me, I smile because I don't want the person to feel Wrongly stared at. Of course, then you get the person who roles there eyes at you and looks away.. but that's another thing. I don't think it instantly means "Screw me baby"... but, it does seem to state that That person doesn't mind being spoken too.
hey, but I could be wrong. Every one is different.

I never look into a girls eyes. I always lower my gaze. I mean, its a religious issue.

Poincare's Stepchild
03-24-06, 04:49 PM
If she just makes eye contact and looks away, it doesn't mean much. But if she holds the contact for a second and smiles a little, that means you have met her minimum standard of attractiveness. It is often a non-verbal invitation to further contact.

BTW, American women prefer self-confident men. Looking away from her gaze doesn't score you any points. It's a cultural thing.

:)

illuminatingtherapy
03-24-06, 04:54 PM
I would think it usually goes the same way for guys. But you would have to admit that although eye contact doesn't usually mean 'screw me, baby', the chances are you could end up in the sack if the guy's interresting/slick enough? It's a starter...

Arkantos
03-26-06, 02:08 AM
I have social anxiety and eye contact is a problem for me. I did notice a few times when passing this girl in the hall that the gaze seemed longer than normal. It was weird. I don't think I have ever experience that before, maybe because I usually was looking down. Was she looking back at me?

CANGAS
03-26-06, 02:27 AM
Ark':

Probably.

Varda
03-26-06, 03:27 PM
i look at everyone in the eyes and i often smile at them, depending on my mood, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything... i just do that because i like it when people smile back

spuriousmonkey
03-26-06, 03:37 PM
And then you have sex with them? ;)

Fraggle Rocker
03-26-06, 10:34 PM
Eye contact is human beings' primary non-verbal means of communication. We say more to each other with our eyes than we do with gestures, body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, and rituals put together.

All those women are trying to tell you is that they are willing to communicate with you. They consider you a member of their community. You are accepted. It is a rite of passage. Be grateful. You must have made a good impression unconsciously. Now figure out what the communication is, because each one is different. Don't let these other guys sucker you into believing that it's all about sex. That will be a quick way to get tossed back out of the community.

Cottontop3000
03-26-06, 10:40 PM
I always look everyone in the eyes too, and sometimes I even smile. I might even smile while I'm thinking about how pleasurable it might be to rip your arm off and beat you bloody senseless with it. Be careful.

spuriousmonkey
03-27-06, 07:49 AM
In many species looking into the eyes is an act of aggression or intimicacy depending on the way you look at it.

Some people say this is because when you look deep down in someone's eyes you look into their soul. That's not true. You are looking straight at the brain.

Theoryofrelativity
03-28-06, 06:25 AM
I make eye contact with everyone I come across because I am NOT afraid to do so and want to see what they are about, the only time I don't make eye contact is with someone I detest as its not nice seeing grown men cry.

Theoryofrelativity
03-28-06, 06:27 AM
[QUOTE=Fraggle Rocker]Eye contact is human beings' primary non-verbal means of communication. We say more to each other with our eyes than we do with gestures, body language, facial expressions, tone of voice, and rituals put together.

All those women are trying to tell you is that they are willing to communicate with you. They consider you a member of their community. You are accepted. It is a rite of passage. Be grateful. You must have made a good impression unconsciously.QUOTE]


you wish! It means nothing more than 'I am not afraid to look at you'

draqon
03-28-06, 06:53 AM
They're looking at your eyes? They like your eyes. Vampire turned girls are now looking at their prey. The eyes are delicatessen not just for vampires, the eyes of many species are served in asian countries.http://img151.exs.cx/img151/8541/dongzhihotsweetsoup9oj.jpg

devils_reject
03-28-06, 10:15 AM
I'm one of those guys that has never really given much attention to women because I believe there is a lot of misconceptions about these creatures. Women are just like men only that they have more options than men, they are generally spoiled, whinny, and believe it or not...always in control. A Woman can fall for any guy who really plays his cards right and expresses himself...yes any guy. This doesn't necessarily mean it will lead to love making, as long as men remember that women are not sex objects they will have no problem, but most men are too stupid to realize this. The poor fucks, the poor stupid fucks. Over the past few years I have realized one important fact; the key to women is actually knowing yourself and what you want.

hug-a-tree
03-28-06, 10:27 AM
I make eye contact with a lot of people I walk by and I don't mean anything by it.

artistmosi
03-28-06, 06:47 PM
devils_reject is right on this one, for a change

heliocentric
03-29-06, 10:35 AM
I'm one of those guys that has never really given much attention to women because I believe there is a lot of misconceptions about these creatures. Women are just like men only that they have more options than men, they are generally spoiled, whinny, and believe it or not...always in control. A Woman can fall for any guy who really plays his cards right and expresses himself...yes any guy. This doesn't necessarily mean it will lead to love making, as long as men remember that women are not sex objects they will have no problem, but most men are too stupid to realize this. The poor fucks, the poor stupid fucks. Over the past few years I have realized one important fact; the key to women is actually knowing yourself and what you want.

You speak the truth :p

Sci-Phenomena
04-02-06, 09:47 AM
HAHAHAHAHA, excellent Dragon, that makes me want to make my favorite food of all: Green Jello with various eyes embedded...

Zarklephaser
04-05-06, 11:29 AM
This one time in Mexico, I ate a goat's eye in a tortilla at some shitty diner.

lovegeneration
04-05-06, 01:41 PM
HHhmm..
then does it mean something different if a guy looks into your eyes when you are female?

When I make eye contact, it's usually out of respect, or I Find something interesting in the person I am looking at. If they make eye contact back at me, I smile because I don't want the person to feel Wrongly stared at. Of course, then you get the person who roles there eyes at you and looks away.. but that's another thing. I don't think it instantly means "Screw me baby"... but, it does seem to state that That person doesn't mind being spoken too.
hey, but I could be wrong. Every one is different.

---

This is something I agree with, I actually do the same thing, but with most people because I love contact... Unless of course I am feeling uncomfortable. Because if I am not then I will usually find interest in the person. Under other circumstances I will usually look away.

Blue_UK
04-05-06, 02:26 PM
Girls who like me are never the ones I'm chasing, presumably because I'm all too obvious!

Staring, following... you know.

Roman
04-05-06, 02:32 PM
Staring, following... you know.

...calling, rummaging through their trash, spying, stalking, restraining orders....

scheherazade
09-26-11, 11:58 AM
The 'eye contact' discussion never goes out of date, IMO, and so I beg the moderator's indulgence in dusting off this thread that I noticed someone perusing on the first page of 'Who's Online'.

I am a woman, so you need not speculate upon my answer save to wonder why I would answer at all. In this case, it is because it caught my attention and communication skills are of interest to me, both personally and professionally, as they make for healthy and enduring relationships.

Speaking only for myself, I make eye contact for the following reasons:

1) Peripherally, to assess the mood of the other and whether they are a potential threat to me.

2) Peripherally, to assess if the individual is in any distress and may need some assistance from me.

3) Brief glance if there is something about the individual that I have never seen before, as in one eye each color, unusual attire or hairstyle.

4) Second glance if my brain registers needing more detail for later review and perusal, usually in relation to something in point 3.

5) Eye contact and brief smile to children, animals and elders, those who may be assisting me in their jobs. Meant to be non-threatening and reassuring, usually elicits a smile back in response and relaxes any preconceived tensions.

6) Eye contact with neutral expression when facing another for purposes of negotiation or mediation. Gaze not held overlong, but frequently returned to during course of discussion.

7) To passersby, I respond as seems appropriate. I avoid eye contact with ticket vendors/buskers/pan-handlers unless I am intending to contribute to their cause.

I have noticed an increasing number of male persons seeking eye contact with me, lol, and lets just say for the record that I am in that age bracket beyond cougar. One gent required assistance finding the canned mushrooms yesterday and I'm not certain that he couldn't have found them on his own. They are fairly obvious, though we did move them in the aisle some many months ago and he is a regular shopper. Maybe he just doesn't use mushrooms often.

As I was leaving the store after shift, I noticed another fellow glancing my way, his vehicle parked adjacent to mine. He called out "Been playing in the mud, have you?" :rolleyes:

Bold fellow to address me so, lol, but I smiled and replied that I was a night stalker (pun intended) a task which entailed much getting down on one's knees to stock the bottom shelves or pull product forward that customers can more easily reach things. I busied myself putting my few purchases and other things in my vehicle.

"Have a nice day", he said as he was getting into his vehicle, to which I responded "Thanks, and you also", looking up as he pulled away, as he was looking in my direction.

He had left his shopping cart beside my car, and as he circled around, we made eye contact one last time as I nodded at his cart with a slightly raised eyebrow, as I was moving toward it with intent.

He smiled and continued on his way.

Apparently he had intended for myself or someone to benefit from the $1.00 of the cart return, though the carts were parked not 60 feet away and he had not seemed to be ambulatory impaired. :)

Fraggle Rocker
09-26-11, 01:17 PM
Apparently he had intended for myself or someone to benefit from the $1.00 of the cart return . . . .Where do you live that you have to deposit a dollar to use a shopping cart??? It's certainly not a bad idea. I'm always picking them up (I even found one in the woods last week), stuffing them in the back of my truck and schlepping them back to the grocery store.

Women never initiate eye contact with me. Even my female friends don't do it very often. Americans anyway, my friends from India and China are a little more likely. Well now that I think about it, Afro-American ladies (including strangers) do it far more often than Euro-Americans.

scheherazade
09-26-11, 02:20 PM
I work in the present capital city of Yukon Territory, Canada, that being Whitehorse, and I live beyond the city limits. By area, Whitehorse is one of the 'largest' cities in Canada with a very low population density.

The pay for cart circumstance was introduced by Loblaws grocery which operates Superstore and Extra Foods as two of it's banners.

You make an interesting distinction about 'initiating eye contact' versus just making eye contact, or perhaps that is just how I am interpreting your comments.

I am generally quite caught up in my thoughts and actions when busy and so do not initiate much eye contact, although I am frequently making eye contact, if I have expressed this difference precisely.

As people are moving and interacting, there is frequent exchanges of eye contact as we try not to get into each others' way, among other things. A clever fellow can just strategically position himself so that the women can't help but notice him and initiate contact, even if it's just to ask him to move out of the way, lol....:D

Enmos
09-26-11, 02:49 PM
Alot of women have been making eye contact with me lately on my way to work. Do they make contact in general, or only with guys they are attracted to? Is there any meaning underneath a female looking at a man or is it just something that they do? What should be the response when a woman makes eye contact? Is that an invitation to start conversation?

Perhaps it's you. I mean, perhaps you notice it just more. People do look each other in the eye. Nothing special about it. Are you looking to find a girlfriend?

Enmos
09-26-11, 02:52 PM
Where do you live that you have to deposit a dollar to use a shopping cart???
We, in the Netherlands, have that as well, only it's a euro here (naturally). Or a 50 eurocent piece.

billvon
09-26-11, 02:52 PM
I'm one of those guys that has never really given much attention to women because I believe there is a lot of misconceptions about these creatures.

I'm one of those guys who don't think they are separate "creatures." They're just people. Some are controlling, some aren't. Some are spoiled, some aren't. Some are whiny, some aren't. In other words, in those ways they're very much like guys.

scheherazade
09-26-11, 02:58 PM
Eye contact can also be a form of assessment, and as more women are moving into management, politics and other work venues which were formerly more male oriented, I believe they are emulating some of the body language which may be associated with these vocations.

Our culture tends to associate an open, and direct gaze with the virtues of trust, strength and integrity.

I am not suggesting that this may be the case, only that we have made that association through literature and film. :bugeye:

What the connotations may be in regard to sexual attraction, I shall let others comment on. Not for me to reveal the secrets of the sisterhood, lol....far more fun to keep the male in a questioning dither of uncertainty. :D

scheherazade
09-26-11, 03:03 PM
I'm one of those guys who don't think they are separate "creatures." They're just people. Some are controlling, some aren't. Some are spoiled, some aren't. Some are whiny, some aren't. In other words, in those ways they're very much like guys.

That is very much the case.

Many of women's perceived negative attributes are but reflections of those characteristics which are also to be found in men.

It has long been said that we criticize in another that which reflects our own intolerance and weakness at a similar level.

cosmictraveler
09-26-11, 07:45 PM
Women stare at me because of my large mole on my face! :p:D

http://www.cansa.org.za/cause_data/images/1056/mole.jpg

chimpkin
09-26-11, 09:40 PM
Women stare at me because of my large mole on my face! :p:D

http://www.cansa.org.za/cause_data/images/1056/mole.jpg

I'd stare at that too! Then tell you to go get that removed asap by a doctor, really, that looks like skin cancer!

I used to not be able to look people in the eyes. If I accidentally made eye contact, I would cringe in shame and fear.
A high school counselor forced me to make eye contact with him, it was excruciatingly painful to do so...but eventually it became less hideous to look people in the eye.
Now I make eye contact with strangers as a way of saying the following:
"I see you,I'm prepared to like you and am of kindly intent.
I won't attack you if you don't attack me...but I'm watching you."

People see the kindly intent, and sometimes think I'm an easy mark. They're not the bright ones.
(I used to be. Get taken enough...)

madanthonywayne
09-27-11, 12:30 AM
We, in the Netherlands, have that as well, only it's a euro here (naturally). Or a 50 eurocent piece.
It exists in the US as well, but only at Aldi.


Why do I need a quarter to use a shopping cart at ALDI?

At ALDI, we cut costs every way we can to keep prices low. Our shopping cart deposit system is a good example. You insert a quarter to release a cart. When you return the cart, you get your quarter back. This system cuts down on the labor of collecting carts left in the parking lot, damage to cars, and we pass the savings on to you.
(http://aldi.us/us/html/company/shopping_smarter_3186_ENU_HTML.htm)

Orleander
09-27-11, 06:01 AM
I always make eye contact and smile. My husband says its because I was raised in sparsely populated Nebraska and and I am thrilled to see another human being

Captain Kremmen
09-27-11, 06:09 AM
Apparently he had intended for myself or someone to benefit from the $1.00 of the cart return, though the carts were parked not 60 feet away and he had not seemed to be ambulatory impaired. :)

I'd definitely have took it back and got the dollar.
It would take about 30 seconds tops. $2 per minute.
That's good wages.

ScribJellyDonut
09-27-11, 08:26 AM
Well since a number of girls have already answered, I feel grossly underqualified to do so, but I will offer my experiences anyways. Usually, and at least in a social situation, when a girl is looking into your eyes she is trying to get your attention and wouldn't mind talking with you. A lot of women are certainly too shy to initiate the conversation, so this is how they initiate contact I suppose. I've never had a girl do that and I go to speak with her and gotten the cold shoulder.

Actually, and I can probably count the number of times this has happened on two hands, I have caught girls looking at me, and I look/stare back (depending on my mood I may look away or stare into her eyes). We exchange smiles having been caught looking at one another (and sometimes a silent little 'hey'). Then the girl will come talk to me. Not being a braggard, and like I said I could count on two hands how many times it's happened in 26 years, but It's a surprise and a bit of fresh air to say the least.

visceral_instinct
09-27-11, 08:54 AM
I'm one of those guys that has never really given much attention to women because I believe there is a lot of misconceptions about these creatures. Women are just like men only that they have more options than men, they are generally spoiled, whinny, and believe it or not...always in control. A Woman can fall for any guy who really plays his cards right and expresses himself...yes any guy. This doesn't necessarily mean it will lead to love making, as long as men remember that women are not sex objects they will have no problem, but most men are too stupid to realize this. The poor fucks, the poor stupid fucks. Over the past few years I have realized one important fact; the key to women is actually knowing yourself and what you want.

Ah yes. All women, or at least all women but for a few exceptions, are spoiled and whiny.

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS MISOGYNIST FASHION TOLERATED EVERYWHERE?

chimpkin
09-27-11, 11:34 AM
http://www.sciforums.com/picture.php?albumid=156&pictureid=935

VI, Sche was doing a little thread necromancy, that jerk isn't here anymore...

scheherazade
09-27-11, 12:01 PM
:bugeye: Hey, there......play nice all.

Yeah, I was digging up bones, based on what some of the 'silent majority' are viewing. I tend to do a bit of research and look at more than just page 1 of 'Who's On-line.'

Fourteen posts, not counting the zombie remark, is more than many threads see in a day, even with the 'additional content and detours'.

I rest my case. :D

(Makes eye contact as she surveys the room)

http://www.my-pin-up-girl.com/images/Fantasy-Women21-Royo.jpg

Dywyddyr
09-27-11, 12:06 PM
Why do women make eye contact?
They don't.
They just scream and run away.


Oh, did you mean with other guys?

scheherazade
09-27-11, 12:12 PM
Well since a number of girls have already answered, I feel grossly underqualified to do so, but I will offer my experiences anyways. Usually, and at least in a social situation, when a girl is looking into your eyes she is trying to get your attention and wouldn't mind talking with you. A lot of women are certainly too shy to initiate the conversation, so this is how they initiate contact I suppose. I've never had a girl do that and I go to speak with her and gotten the cold shoulder.

Actually, and I can probably count the number of times this has happened on two hands, I have caught girls looking at me, and I look/stare back (depending on my mood I may look away or stare into her eyes). We exchange smiles having been caught looking at one another (and sometimes a silent little 'hey'). Then the girl will come talk to me. Not being a braggard, and like I said I could count on two hands how many times it's happened in 26 years, but It's a surprise and a bit of fresh air to say the least.

You have given words to the context very well, Scribe. That's precisely how the language of eye contact can work, especially when two people are in a social situation and feeling excluded by the more active and vocal membership, as frequently comes about as these functions. Sometimes it is boredom, sometimes attraction, often a bit of insecurity, that may cause women to seek eye contact with others, including men. :)

scheherazade
09-27-11, 12:15 PM
They don't.
They just scream and run away.


Oh, did you mean with other guys?

What aspect of your form would precipitate such a response from the female gender, Dywyddr? :eek:

Post a picture for us, why don't you.....:D

scheherazade
09-27-11, 12:21 PM
Ah yes. All women, or at least all women but for a few exceptions, are spoiled and whiny.

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS MISOGYNIST FASHION TOLERATED EVERYWHERE?

In my observation, the male persons who make such claim in regard to female persons are usually reflecting their own inadequacies.

I am confident and assertive, though learning to be much less so.

Apparently those traits are disconcerting to many guys as well, lol......

That's fine. I set the bar high because I only have patience for one at a time. I've married the best.....you girls can fight over the rest, lol.....:D

billvon
09-27-11, 12:41 PM
That's precisely how the language of eye contact can work, especially when two people are in a social situation and feeling excluded by the more active and vocal membership . .

I've found it's also very much a function of what society you are in and what their expectations are. To use the two most extreme examples I can think of -

I used to work in Manhattan, and on the subways there no one ever looked at anyone else. If they did, more often than not some conflict would arise. "Hey spare a quarter man" "Turn that damn radio down." The expectation was that contact with someone else would generally be a bad thing. So people avoided each other and didn't look at each other if they didn't have to.

The other extreme is Burning Man, a rather bizarre art/culture/camping event in Nevada. There's an expectation there that any interaction with someone else will lead to something good; an invitation to a party, directions to a particularly interesting piece of art, a margarita. That's reflected in the amount of eye contact people make. Everyone is looking at everyone, and that leads to a lot more chance meetings between people.

wynn
09-27-11, 01:58 PM
Where do you live that you have to deposit a dollar to use a shopping cart???

It's common in Europe.
The coin functions as a part of the lock system - you insert a coin which releases the lock on the chain that keeps the individual cart connected to the others in the line.
You can also buy a special coin on a chain that you use only for shopping carts (like in the first picture).

http://www.memochip.de/assets/images/MC_am_Einkaufswagen_1.jpg

http://www.seniorenland.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/einkaufswagen.jpg




Women never initiate eye contact with me. Even my female friends don't do it very often. Americans anyway, my friends from India and China are a little more likely. Well now that I think about it, Afro-American ladies (including strangers) do it far more often than Euro-Americans.

That's strange. I would think Americans readily make eye-contact.
I don't like people who avoid eye-contact.
This is why I dislike Nigella Lawson, to TV cook - the woman barely ever looks straight into the camera!

wynn
09-27-11, 02:09 PM
They don't.
They just scream and run away.


Oh, did you mean with other guys?

At some point, self-deprecation becomes boring.

scheherazade
09-27-11, 02:13 PM
I've found it's also very much a function of what society you are in and what their expectations are. To use the two most extreme examples I can think of -

I used to work in Manhattan, and on the subways there no one ever looked at anyone else. If they did, more often than not some conflict would arise. "Hey spare a quarter man" "Turn that damn radio down." The expectation was that contact with someone else would generally be a bad thing. So people avoided each other and didn't look at each other if they didn't have to.

The other extreme is Burning Man, a rather bizarre art/culture/camping event in Nevada. There's an expectation there that any interaction with someone else will lead to something good; an invitation to a party, directions to a particularly interesting piece of art, a margarita. That's reflected in the amount of eye contact people make. Everyone is looking at everyone, and that leads to a lot more chance meetings between people.

Good examples, billvon.

My experience has been largely restricted to living in areas of smaller population base, although I do get to Vancouver and Ottawa on rare occasion.

Even in the Yukon, there is an observable cultural difference around eye contact between those of Caucasian culture and those of First Nations culture. The younger people of First Nations birth and some of their more charismatic leaders are adopting the practice of greater eye contact in response to audio-visual context of the connected world, I observe.

scheherazade
09-27-11, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Signal
That's strange. I would think Americans readily make eye-contact.
I don't like people who avoid eye-contact.
This is why I dislike Nigella Lawson, to TV cook - the woman barely ever looks straight into the camera!

Those of us from a culture that utilizes eye-contact tend to be discomfited by others who shy away from our scrutiny, observably so.

Until one has spent some time around cultures where eye-contact is not the norm, this difference can make communication somewhat less than trustful.

I vary the amount and duration of eye-contact I use to suit the culture that I am engaging. Admittedly, most of my interactions are with Caucasians, North American First Nations and landed immigrants from Mexico, South America and a few from China.

cosmictraveler
09-27-11, 02:41 PM
scheherazade

I set the bar high because I only have patience for one at a time. I've married the best.....you girls can fight over the rest, lol.....

I guess you didn't date many before you were married. That's both a good and bad thing depending upon how you take it. I only am making an observation not trying to throw a wrench into your happy life with your husband/partner. Many women do the same thing and just end up with someone that they can manipulate easily to suit their own purposes and goals in their lives.

scheherazade
09-27-11, 03:11 PM
I guess you didn't date many before you were married. That's both a good and bad thing depending upon how you take it. I only am making an observation not trying to throw a wrench into your happy life with your husband/partner. Many women do the same thing and just end up with someone that they can manipulate easily to suit their own purposes and goals in their lives.

Actually, I have 'intimate knowledge' of more than a few :o, and cohabited with four men before meeting my first husband. After 15 years, we parted on good terms and then I met my present husband.

I am neither easily manipulated, nor a manipulator, though I understand the point your are speaking to.

Orleander
09-27-11, 07:34 PM
I guess you didn't date many before you were married. That's both a good and bad thing depending upon how you take it. I only am making an observation not trying to throw a wrench into your happy life with your husband/partner. Many women do the same thing and just end up with someone that they can manipulate easily to suit their own purposes and goals in their lives.

oh cosmic, you make me sad :( so jaded

chimpkin
09-27-11, 09:47 PM
I guess you didn't date many before you were married. That's both a good and bad thing depending upon how you take it. I only am making an observation not trying to throw a wrench into your happy life with your husband/partner. Many women do the same thing and just end up with someone that they can manipulate easily to suit their own purposes and goals in their lives.

Owch.
I thought the point was to have a shared purpose that you hopefully worked towards together...

Although in my marriage that's not quite how it worked out...sort of a moving argument, or as I said to our marriage counselor "Bickering lesbians...or whatever I am, now showing at 3 pm!"

Me-Ki-Gal
09-27-11, 10:33 PM
I've found it's also very much a function of what society you are in and what their expectations are. To use the two most extreme examples I can think of -

I used to work in Manhattan, and on the subways there no one ever looked at anyone else. If they did, more often than not some conflict would arise. "Hey spare a quarter man" "Turn that damn radio down." The expectation was that contact with someone else would generally be a bad thing. So people avoided each other and didn't look at each other if they didn't have to.

The other extreme is Burning Man, a rather bizarre art/culture/camping event in Nevada. There's an expectation there that any interaction with someone else will lead to something good; an invitation to a party, directions to a particularly interesting piece of art, a margarita. That's reflected in the amount of eye contact people make. Everyone is looking at everyone, and that leads to a lot more chance meetings between people.

Wow!! You been to Burning Man . That is quite the event . I thought about going to that . Yeah dancing days are here again .

O.K. I got a hypnotist trick for you all . When you look at someones face lock at the base of there nose . Yeah it gives the impression you are look right deep in there eyes . Old Hypnotists learn this so as to have a look of unshaken nerves of steal . Your client base will grow for any of you in the hypnotist business. Your base will broaden by this one trick . It also works for looking like your confidence level is high in your abilities ( what ever that may be . I learned it from an old hypnotist book years ago and it has served Me well . I don't use it anymore sense I learn the tell your self " I love you about the person you make eye contact with . WHen you do that you get a rubber next every time . I do it in people peripheral view now and they still rubber neck back with a big smile . Blows my mind . It almost feels like they can hear Me thinking . I think they can . It is so strange . It attracts people to Me in a bizarre way too . Then I watch them interact with the next people they come into contact with and there is an exchange of similar fashion . I seen it happen to the most of sour pussies . At first I was sure I was reading something that was not there and my own delusions were making Me feel like there was an effect . I don't think so . I am going to go do the experiment again right now at the store soon as i finish this post . It is starting to effect the whole community is what I think . Yeah over all mood of the community is being infected by Me little virus of love . You can think Me crazy all you want . It fucking works . I got it from my secret book with the 7 scrolls . That is were I really got it . Not from criminals , but after realizing the power of the tool I noticed criminal types use the rule very successfully to there advantage . It is a look on the face and when you say to your self as you make eye contact " I Love You " stand back and watch for your self then come tell Me I am crazy . I am going to go infect some more people right now . Later , Molly Dagger breaths that dragon air . Infected with Meki Disease. Watch out Tiasi ( What kind of weird spelling is that anyway, I know I fucked it up this time ) You are in my circle of influence. You might catch me virus of love . You to Spidey !! I think Spidey Did Did Already

Me-Ki-Gal
09-27-11, 10:41 PM
Owch.
I thought the point was to have a shared purpose that you hopefully worked towards together...

Although in my marriage that's not quite how it worked out...sort of a moving argument, or as I said to our marriage counselor "Bickering lesbians...or whatever I am, now showing at 3 pm!"

Cosmic is a disgruntled ex spouse . Not unlike some one else on this forum that wanted some money from his spouse . Monetary gain will help the one get past it but I am afraid there is no hope for Cosmic except for a big boobed moocher slapping his face with big boobs . More than likely some one for hire professionally

chimpkin
09-27-11, 11:21 PM
At least with a hooker, you know where you stand...or something like that.

Anti-Flag
09-28-11, 07:00 AM
This is why I dislike Nigella Lawson, to TV cook - the woman barely ever looks straight into the camera!

Wait she's a cook?

And she has eyes??

Luis A.C.ROMANELLI
09-28-11, 09:39 PM
Not only Women make aye contacts ALSO ANIMALS and that`s because something in ower
hed tells us that in the eyes is the information of the sence and action ! ! !...Slds.

Enmos
09-28-11, 11:12 PM
It exists in the US as well, but only at Aldi.


Why do I need a quarter to use a shopping cart at ALDI?

At ALDI, we cut costs every way we can to keep prices low. Our shopping cart deposit system is a good example. You insert a quarter to release a cart. When you return the cart, you get your quarter back. This system cuts down on the labor of collecting carts left in the parking lot, damage to cars, and we pass the savings on to you.
(http://aldi.us/us/html/company/shopping_smarter_3186_ENU_HTML.htm)

You guys have ALDI? I would've never thought.
Anyway, ALDI is German in origin and the system seems to be common throughout Europe.

Orleander
09-29-11, 05:26 AM
I am completely not understanding the shopping cart/eye contact connection

Anti-Flag
09-29-11, 06:02 AM
Women only make eye contact if deep down they want to kill you.... good luck....

Varda
09-29-11, 06:29 AM
VI, Sche was doing a little thread necromancy, that jerk isn't here anymore...

That jerk is a pretty cool guy. I'm sorry that he is gone.

Captain Kremmen
09-29-11, 09:45 AM
Making eye contact.
Doesn't that hurt their eyes?

scheherazade
09-29-11, 09:54 AM
I am completely not understanding the shopping cart/eye contact connection


Anti-Flag Women only make eye contact if deep down they want to kill you.... good luck....


Or if there's no shopping carts left in the lock-up and they want the one you were just about to return.... http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/21/25/24/avatars/1-0.jpg

wynn
09-29-11, 10:58 AM
I am completely not understanding the shopping cart/eye contact connection

The shopping carts were a tangent.

scheherazade
09-29-11, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Orleander
I am completely not understanding the shopping cart/eye contact connection


The shopping carts were a tangent.

Introduced at posts #30 and #31.

An 'eye contact' example that I used in my post and Fraggle's question in response. :D

cosmictraveler
09-30-11, 04:26 PM
oh cosmic, you make me sad :( so jaded

Why? I've only stated what I thought was a perfectly honest statement about no one really knows if there's any other person out there on Earth that would be a better match without dating millions of others. How can anyone really know that their mate is the best out there , is it love? :shrug:

chimpkin
10-01-11, 12:06 AM
That jerk is a pretty cool guy. I'm sorry that he is gone.

He thinks of all women as whiny and spoiled though. Or at least he so stated:
http://sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1015359&postcount=21

Since that's a negative,value prejudgment on women...and most other people still think of me as one of those...and I did not apppreciate someone implying I might be spoiled (not sure I can argue with whiny), I in turn thought he was a jerk, which is also a prejudicial value judgment.

Tit for tat.

As to why he probably thinks this? women are taught to bond through sharing of problems. To a man, especially one who's been reared in the sort of "suck it up" kind of childrearing style that used to be in fashion...a woman's way of bonding is going to translate to whiny and spoiled.

If the guy is clueless enough to jump to initial conclusions and not to dig deeper. If he never figures out why women act as they do. We have a different socialization process for men and women...and men who fail to understand this are going to constantly end up with "whiny, spoiled" women they "just can't understand." "She never wants to DO anything, just talk, and she complains, but gets mad when I try to fix it for her!" the guy thinks.

BTW... you listen to a woman long enough, you talk to her long enough, engage her long enough...you can probably get in her pants. Most likely.

However...

If devils_reject just hates everyone equally, then I approve.:)

scheherazade
10-01-11, 01:32 AM
Why? I've only stated what I thought was a perfectly honest statement about no one really knows if there's any other person out there on Earth that would be a better match without dating millions of others. How can anyone really know that their mate is the best out there , is it love?

My remark was sincere, and made to sound like a challenge in jest. My partner is a very suitable match, and the 'best for me' in that he meets me halfway and allows me to be who I am, which I endeavor to reciprocate.

In retrospect, I rather knew that the girls would pick up on this nuance, yet I hadn't contemplated it from the male perspective, in that it could be a hurtful remark, implying that I somehow judged them to be lacking, though I had met them not.

You made a most valid comment, to which I replied in equal honesty. :) You come across as honest in any of the replies you have made to me, Cosmic, and I thank you for the exchanges.

To all the guys who may be reading this, my hubby is the best for putting up with me and we never argue. Whenever tensions arise, on rare occasion to the point of frustration, we both back away from the challenge and return to it as soon as we have both rebalanced our personal energy.

I think the best example was the day I came home and he had reconfigured our shared home computer of the time, my first journey into the realm of the virtual and we had not long been on-line. (He's had computers since they came out, and two other computer programmers in his family).

He had spent considerable time doing this reconfiguration, and when I went to check our e-mail, I couldn't even find the bloody program as I was exhausted from on-going stress at work.

"Where's me e-mail? What have you done? I'm too tired to think.....", were the words I wailed through tears, as I went to bed without even looking for food for myself.

When I got up, he had changed everything back to the way it had been, and made me a nice meal as well. Ever since, he asks me what I'd think about some change that might make things better or easier for both of us.

Of course, we each have our own computers now, lol.... , but we use the same strategy whenever either of us is contemplating a change or thinking of a significant financial purchase etc.

Sorry......this became a novel......Varda will be offended...:eek:...too long and I mentioned night shift.......on dear, oh dear....., lol......:D

Kittamaru
10-01-11, 04:38 AM
The eyes can tell a trained individual a lot about a person... or someone who is naturally attenuated to these subtle clues... your entire life story can be read through your eyes. For me, the eyes are the literal gateway to the soul. My eyes are interesting in that their pigmentation changes with my emotional state.

Anti-Flag
10-01-11, 12:27 PM
Or if there's no shopping carts left in the lock-up and they want the one you were just about to return.... http://r29.imgfast.net/users/2912/21/25/24/avatars/1-0.jpg

:confused:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shopping

Oh I see! I didn't realise we still did that....

philomath
10-04-11, 04:44 PM
Eye contact is her signal for you to make the first move.

Orleander
10-04-11, 05:15 PM
Are people more likely to back down from someone who has made eye contact? Isn't an aggressor more likely to attack someone who keeps their eyes downcast?

philomath
10-04-11, 05:20 PM
Maybe chicks just don't trust him.

scheherazade
10-04-11, 07:19 PM
:confused:


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shopping

Oh I see! I didn't realise we still did that....

What? Shopping?

Not all transactions take place on-line. There remains a healthy population of females who consider shopping in person to be far preferable to other means of acquisition.

I am one who prefers to examine a thing before I commit to it. Even with line produced merchandise, there are considerable differences to take into consideration.

Eye contact in the shopping venue tells a lot of stories, and tells you much about the person and their objectives.

Then again, I don't expect most of the gentlemen may be aware of this. For most men, shopping is a mission, and not a preferred one. :rolleyes:

Still, I do meet gentlemen who enjoy their grocery shopping, evident by their discerning gaze when our eyes chance to meet.

scheherazade
10-04-11, 07:21 PM
Are people more likely to back down from someone who has made eye contact? Isn't an aggressor more likely to attack someone who keeps their eyes downcast?

I get the impression that many here live in a rough neighborhood. :eek:

wynn
10-05-11, 01:08 AM
Are people more likely to back down from someone who has made eye contact? Isn't an aggressor more likely to attack someone who keeps their eyes downcast?

It depends on the type of aggressor, at which point the eye contact is made or refused, and what kind of eye contact it is.

chimpkin
10-05-11, 03:04 AM
I get the impression that many here live in a rough neighborhood. :eek:
Big cities...

You don't make direct eye contact (because that can be seen as aggressive by an unhinged person) You also don't look down (that screams 'I'll submit, no trouble.' ) You stand straight, look confident, and sort of let your eyes slide over the person in an unfocused manner.

If you do make momentary eye contact, break it immediately, and give a tight little nod of acknowledgement...this indicates respect, but not weakness.

Don't smile, this indicates openness...if said person is looking for a mark of some sort...smile and you look like that mark.

Trust your gut instinct about people...our subconscious picks up more than we are immediately aware of.

Enmos
10-05-11, 03:38 AM
Trust your gut instinct about people..

Wut? I would be a hermit..

Veselin Andreev
10-05-11, 06:16 AM
problem is not when someone doesn't care to lo0k at u....!problem starts when the person you care about, lo0ks at you....!:D

the eye contact is inescapable....! it doesn't even spare you when glares are ON...!:cool:

Anti-Flag
10-05-11, 09:14 PM
Then again, I don't expect most of the gentlemen may be aware of this. For most men, shopping is a mission, and not a preferred one. :rolleyes:
It's a necessity sometimes, like work...


Still, I do meet gentlemen who enjoy their grocery shopping, evident by their discerning gaze when our eyes chance to meet.
Well not all men are straight.... Or the eye contact is a sign of being WAY out of their depth.... :p

Anti-Flag
10-05-11, 09:17 PM
Are people more likely to back down from someone who has made eye contact? Isn't an aggressor more likely to attack someone who keeps their eyes downcast?

Body language plays a part, eye contact can be seen as a challenge and result in confrontation, but avoiding gaze can be seen as already submissive and it becomes unnecessary to assert dominance.

Other animals behave in much the same way.

Anti-Flag
10-05-11, 09:25 PM
Big cities...

You don't make direct eye contact (because that can be seen as aggressive by an unhinged person) You also don't look down (that screams 'I'll submit, no trouble.' ) You stand straight, look confident, and sort of let your eyes slide over the person in an unfocused manner.

If you do make momentary eye contact, break it immediately, and give a tight little nod of acknowledgement...this indicates respect, but not weakness.

Don't smile, this indicates openness...if said person is looking for a mark of some sort...smile and you look like that mark.
Or you could just be a little less paranoid? :p


Trust your gut instinct about people...our subconscious picks up more than we are immediately aware of.
Totally, human beings are deceptive, manipulative assholes, although not always openly aggressive and looking for a "mark" - they've usually already got one, and they usually don't pick them up in public but go for ones they already know.

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.

scheherazade
10-05-11, 09:31 PM
“Originally posted by Scheherazade
Still, I do meet gentlemen who enjoy their grocery shopping, evident by their discerning gaze when our eyes chance to meet.



Originally posted by Anti-Flag
Well not all men are straight.... Or the eye contact is a sign of being WAY out of their depth....

Sometimes the eye contact is in need of assistance, and I exude capability in my work capacity. :)

Based on my observations, it is primarily the straight males who will make eye contact with women in the grocery store. The playing field is level when both are stalking the best available selection and the need for food is something that both genders have in common. :D

billvon
10-05-11, 10:02 PM
You don't make direct eye contact (because that can be seen as aggressive by an unhinged person) You also don't look down (that screams 'I'll submit, no trouble.' ) You stand straight, look confident, and sort of let your eyes slide over the person in an unfocused manner.

Depends on the city. Here in San Diego you can look at people.


If you do make momentary eye contact, break it immediately, and give a tight little nod of acknowledgement...this indicates respect, but not weakness. Don't smile, this indicates openness...if said person is looking for a mark of some sort...smile and you look like that mark. . . .

Wow, that's a lot of thinking! I don't think nearly that much about it; most of it comes naturally.


Trust your gut instinct about people...our subconscious picks up more than we are immediately aware of.

Agreed. And I think the (subconscious) amount of eye contact we make is part of that. People are _very_ conscious of where other people are looking - and that's not just when they are looking at your face.

kx000
10-05-11, 10:42 PM
Wow. They are eye checking you, if they look you in the eye they are interested in you walk up and say hi, if you look away they will most likely lose interest.

kx000
10-05-11, 10:50 PM
Sometimes the eye contact is in need of assistance, and I exude capability in my work capacity. :)

Based on my observations, it is primarily the straight males who will make eye contact with women in the grocery store. The playing field is level when both are stalking the best available selection and the need for food is something that both genders have in common. :D

I notice straight men also give me stern eye contact if they look in my direction, men I presume to be homosexuals look at my body then kind of stare at me. I try to give everyone eye contact as a sign of respect. Theoretically, looking someone in they eyes will tell you everything you need to know about them. Not only can I pick out homosexuals from heterosexuals (not that I care, but I don't care for unwanted attention so I would prefer to avoid the situation), I can also pick the whores and the prudes, at least which female is attracted to me the most.

I just want to be clear, I like women only, but I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, please dont mix this up as being homophobic, its actually quit the opposite. I do however think it is my right to not be gawked at constantly by unwanted gawkers. The above is just an observation.

scheherazade
10-05-11, 11:10 PM
I notice straight men also give me stern eye contact if they look in my direction, men I presume to be homosexuals look at my body then kind of stare at me. I try to give everyone eye contact as a sign of respect. Theoretically, looking someone in they eyes will tell you everything you need to know about them. Not only can I pick out homosexuals from heterosexuals (not that I care, but I don't care for unwanted attention so I would prefer to avoid the situation), I can also pick the whores and the prudes, at least which female is attracted to me the most.

I just want to be clear, I like women only, but I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, please dont mix this up as being homophobic, its actually quit the opposite. I do however think it is my right to not be gawked at constantly by unwanted gawkers. The above is just an observation.

Eye contact is a very interesting mode of communication. My preferred use of vision is to keep my eyes in motion, broadly scanning, which does not require much head movement if one does eye exercises to improve their lateral and peripheral field of view.

Walk with purpose, convey the message that one is observant, and only make direct or extended eye contact with persons of interest. Persons who may find me of interest are welcome to observe.

I am always on the move and will soon be beyond their view anyway. :D

Orleander
10-06-11, 05:59 AM
Body language plays a part, eye contact can be seen as a challenge and result in confrontation, but avoiding gaze can be seen as already submissive and it becomes unnecessary to assert dominance.

Other animals behave in much the same way.

a woman who won't make eye contact is unaware of her surroundings. She is meek and an easy target

Anti-Flag
10-06-11, 06:08 AM
Based on my observations, it is primarily the straight males who will make eye contact with women in the grocery store. The playing field is level when both are stalking the best available selection and the need for food is something that both genders have in common. :D

Agreed, sometimes it's a subtle and deliberate way to pick someone up, often it's just utter confusion.

Personally I try not to think about it too much. Military minded man you see - Know your objectives, get in, get out, no fuss, minimal casualties. Park the getaway vehicle close. ;)

Otherwise I know I'll be standing there like Monty Burns repeatadly saying "Ketchup.... Catsup..... Ketchup.....Catsup...."

Anti-Flag
10-06-11, 06:11 AM
a woman who won't make eye contact is unaware of her surroundings. She is meek and an easy target

Or not particularly memorable, unnoticeable, and unlikely to draw attention to herself. :shrug:
You don't have to look in peoples eyes to know what's around you.

wynn
10-06-11, 06:27 AM
a woman who won't make eye contact is unaware of her surroundings. She is meek and an easy target

Or aloof.

Enmos
10-06-11, 07:52 AM
Or aloof.

Or ignoring you because you're just not that interesting :D

scheherazade
10-06-11, 08:18 AM
a woman who won't make eye contact is unaware of her surroundings. She is meek and an easy target

Not necessarily.

Sometimes this is a cultural behavior, and other times it signals concentration, or a disinterest in being interrupted. One needs to observe the rest of her body language to determine whether she is unaware of her surroundings.

Most women have a wider field of view and so can be monitoring their peripherals without observably doing so.

chimpkin
10-08-11, 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by chimpkin
Big cities...

You don't make direct eye contact (because that can be seen as aggressive by an unhinged person) You also don't look down (that screams 'I'll submit, no trouble.' ) You stand straight, look confident, and sort of let your eyes slide over the person in an unfocused manner.

If you do make momentary eye contact, break it immediately, and give a tight little nod of acknowledgement...this indicates respect, but not weakness.

Don't smile, this indicates openness...if said person is looking for a mark of some sort...smile and you look like that mark.


Or you could just be a little less paranoid? :p



I don't think I'm paranoid...just because I have to sit with my back to a wall and seeing all entry/exit points in a public location, in case someone comes in to rob the place...or scan my environment with a sweep, looking for potential threats...
Or even think about what I would do if that person over there pulls a gun or knife on me...
I'm just really tuned-in to my environment, is all...
When I have panic attacks I add to the above-look around for improvised weapons in the immediate environment, if I can, get to the car.
I feel very safe in the car; I can run threats over.

I grew up in the land of the worst-case scenario?:shrug:I tend to react rather strongly to threats.

Shogun
10-09-11, 07:03 PM
Why do women make eye contact?

I think the same reason everyone else does...

For anyone desperate enough to see that as a sign of attraction...all I gotta say is I won't be there to say "I told you so" when you get your ass wiped...

murdoch
11-04-11, 03:57 AM
I guess now nobody will blame you at least. :rolleyes:

Anti-Flag
11-04-11, 09:19 AM
Why do women make eye contact?

I think the same reason everyone else does...

For anyone desperate enough to see that as a sign of attraction...all I gotta say is I won't be there to say "I told you so" when you get your ass wiped...

Hmm, so am I unique in making eye contact with people I find attractive? I was always lead to believe it's fairly standard, or does only the lingering or repeated kind count, or am I just expected to be staring at other parts? :shrug:

chimpkin
11-04-11, 09:34 AM
Hmm, so am I unique in making eye contact with people I find attractive? I was always lead to believe it's fairly standard, or does only the lingering or repeated kind count, or am I just expected to be staring at other parts? :shrug:

Do you only make eye contact with people you find sexually attractive?

I mean...this is obviously a cultural thing, in most of Asia it's really rude to make eye contact, whereas in the USA, they force you to, failure to do so is seen as a sign of dishonesty.

nietzschefan
11-04-11, 09:36 AM
Hmm, so am I unique in making eye contact with people I find attractive? I was always lead to believe it's fairly standard, or does only the lingering or repeated kind count, or am I just expected to be staring at other parts? :shrug:

He's 15, they probably just walk up and grab a crotch or pull the thong hanging out, to show attraction. Or the run home on msn and whisper "I like you..."

Anti-Flag
11-04-11, 08:25 PM
Do you only make eye contact with people you find sexually attractive?

I mean...this is obviously a cultural thing, in most of Asia it's really rude to make eye contact, whereas in the USA, they force you to, failure to do so is seen as a sign of dishonesty.
Not exclusively, but it's by far more common, and if it's repeated or lingering then there's definitely something I find eye catching.
The question would be what reasons are there for eye contact, one of such reasons obviously being attraction, so it would hardly be unfounded for someone to come to that conclusion, at least on *some* occasions. :shrug:

He's 15, they probably just walk up and grab a crotch or pull the thong hanging out, to show attraction. Or the run home on msn and whisper "I like you..."
Ah that takes me back a few years. Does the "like" function on facebook serve as an adequate replacement? I'm out of touch with these things.