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Saint
07-08-12, 08:47 PM
Why do they work as pornstars?
Don't they feel shame if their friends or relatives happen to watch their "acts" in the movies they filmed?
Are they paid lucratively to shoot porn movies?

game-junkie
07-08-12, 09:21 PM
Pornstars are trash. Most of them aren't paid much to do porn, only the companies make the big profit. People who work in call centres usually make more than them unless they're famous in the industry. Most of them feel no shame. A lot of them were raped, or something happened to them.

youreyes
07-08-12, 09:35 PM
because they do not know of other emotions people are capable of, that will surpass the power, money, and gratification that comes from sex. USA's main goal is to make people rich and feel "free", pornstars have gained the money and are "free". I bet it's the fame and not just money that creates such high pool of sex workers. No one will blame them or condemn them, they got the country supporting them which tells them to do what they want and feel free with their feelings. So they let themselves loose. The only weapon against this system is STD.

Carcano
07-08-12, 10:05 PM
I think a lot of them just like getting paid for doing something they enjoy.

Most of them line up to sign up.

Carcano
07-08-12, 10:07 PM
Don't they feel shame if their friends or relatives happen to watch their "acts" in the movies they filmed?
They would feel 'shame' only it they believed that sex is EVIL.

R1D2
07-08-12, 10:37 PM
Why do they work as porn stars?
Don't they feel shame if their friends or relatives happen to watch their "acts" in the movies they filmed?
Are they paid lucrativly to shoot porn movies?
They should feel guilt an shame. Most I don't think intend to stay in the business long term. An I had heard they are stricter now about std prevention.

youreyes
07-08-12, 10:54 PM
They should feel guilt an shame. Most I don't think intend to stay in the business long term. An I had heard they are stricter now about std prevention.

girls line up for the sex industry to become a pornstar, there is money and fame there for them. Their boobs and vaginas will be seen across the globe :rolleyes: while they can do their pedicure and brush-ups and living the high life. What shame and guilt? They dont feel anything close to that, its a fight on business, take out the competition and have lots of fun.

What bugs me is not why don't they feel guilt or shame, but that they are able to find a soul mate and even make a family of their own after what their "work" is done? Has the person who accepts such a woman have no shame and dignity? That is the question I ask.

Saint
07-09-12, 12:57 AM
A married woman, a mother, can become a pornstar too?
Watched by her children?

youreyes
07-09-12, 01:15 AM
A married woman, a mother, can become a pornstar too?
Watched by her children?

I am saying...a woman who was a pornstar can easily become a married woman in USA.

phlogistician
07-09-12, 07:15 AM
Let's be honest, Saint doesn't start these threads to really gauge people's opinions, he's probably just thinking out loud about marrying a pornstar.

Buddha12
07-09-12, 07:48 AM
Some girls are abducted and forced into doing the things that are seen in porn movies. Not all of them but some. The ones who are shown all beaten up and made to go through torture and bleed are some of the abducted ones but again not all. I just think it is very demeaning to a woman to have to sell herself to that porn industry to earn a living for it doesn't last to long when they get older the industry justs throws them away getting younger girls to fill their spots. If there was another way for them to earn money I'm sure they would do it but today womens jobs are not easily found and men run the show.:(

KilljoyKlown
07-09-12, 08:02 AM
Some girls are abducted and forced into doing the things that are seen in porn movies. Not all of them but some. The ones who are shown all beaten up and made to go through torture and bleed are some of the abducted ones but again not all. I just think it is very demeaning to a woman to have to sell herself to that porn industry to earn a living for it doesn't last to long when they get older the industry justs throws them away getting younger girls to fill their spots. If there was another way for them to earn money I'm sure they would do it but today womens jobs are not easily found and men run the show.:(

They are exhibitionist. Many of them can't get off doing it in private. So if it's a choice of getting off or not getting off, what are you going to do? Besides if you want to meet other like minded people, where better?:D

Buddha12
07-09-12, 08:07 AM
They are exhibitionist. Many of them can't get off doing it in private. So if it's a choice of getting off or not getting off, what are you going to do? Besides if you want to meet other like minded people, where better?:D

Its just that there are some women who don't want to be doing this but are forced into it for one reason or another. I don't know what the percentages are about when trying to find out how many are "volunteers" and who are not. That is why whenever anyone views a porn movie you really don't know for certain if the people there are "willing" or under some kind of duress, drugs, threats or something else.

KilljoyKlown
07-09-12, 08:19 AM
Its just that there are some women who don't want to be doing this but are forced into it for one reason or another. I don't know what the percentages are about when trying to find out how many are "volunteers" and who are not. That is why whenever anyone views a porn movie you really don't know for certain if the people there are "willing" or under some kind of duress, drugs, threats or something else.

Many unlikely women might be in a porn movie, but to really be a porn star you have to really like what you are doing. I'm sorry but you can't be a star at anything you don't want to be doing. Just not going to happen.

Buddha12
07-09-12, 11:50 AM
Many unlikely women might be in a porn movie, but to really be a porn star you have to really like what you are doing. I'm sorry but you can't be a star at anything you don't want to be doing. Just not going to happen.

http://www.berkshirefinearts.com/uploadedImages/articles/736_Pageant-Play850306.jpg

R1D2
07-09-12, 12:39 PM
Alright budda12 who is in the picture?

Carcano
07-09-12, 01:28 PM
Its just that there are some women who don't want to be doing this but are forced into it for one reason or another. I don't know what the percentages are about when trying to find out how many are "volunteers" and who are not. That is why whenever anyone views a porn movie you really don't know for certain if the people there are "willing" or under some kind of duress, drugs, threats or something else.
We could make the same argument about a girl working at the supermarket...is she willing, or was she forced to get a job by her husband, or random circumstances.

It is dangerous? Yes, there's an element of danger in many jobs...and even sports, which people dont even get paid for.

quadraphonics
07-09-12, 01:48 PM
Why do they work as pornstars?

I'm told that, these days, most do it as a form of advertizing for "private shoots," i.e., high-profile prostitution. Apparently that's where the real money is. At least in the USA, that is.

I'm sure there are myriad other reasons, but supposedly that's the big one.



Don't they feel shame if their friends or relatives happen to watch their "acts" in the movies they filmed?

I'm sure some do, although I'm guessing mostly the issue isn't "shame," but awkward situations that creates with family members who do not approve.



Are they paid lucratively to shoot porn movies?

Supposedly female performers working in the right market segment can get paid pretty handsomely, although again I'm told the real money is in the prostitution side-business.

seagypsy
07-09-12, 02:10 PM
http://www.berkshirefinearts.com/uploadedImages/articles/736_Pageant-Play850306.jpg

Is that JonBenét Ramsey? If so, what is the connection you are making here?

seagypsy
07-09-12, 02:16 PM
I have an old friend who claimed to want to be in porn. He has an obsession with sex and from what I hear, is unexpectedly good at it. He weighs over 300 lbs and isn't someone you would expect to be a ladies' man just by looking at him. but I am often flabbergasted at how many "hot chicks" go home with him.

But as a friend, I also witnessed him go 2 years celibate in hopes to win the heart of a girl he was infatuated with. She ended up screwing some other guy. Go figure. he was devastated and that's when his apparent sexual addiction began.

I'm guessing that the porn is like a drug for some.They live the fantasy that they are loved for a short period of time and get paid for it. I don't think it is always just bout getting off, being coerced, or on drugs. We all have our demons that make us do things we aren't proud of. Things we would never ideally do. And for some, they just really like what they do.
We don't all define reality the same as others. I imagine there could be a culture where public displays of sex are the norm and considered a high a high honor to be allowed to participate.

Most people have a small world view and are not able to consider the possibility of there being other ways to be and still be ok.

Buddha12
07-09-12, 04:34 PM
Is that JonBenét Ramsey? If so, what is the connection you are making here?


I was only showing Killjoy who said:


sorry but you can't be a star at anything you don't want to be doing

Children and other types of people who are under duress can be easily manipulated to becomming so called "stars" in something they really have no control over due to circumstances beyond their control. Many addicts are made to do porn work for their next fix as just another example.

youreyes
07-09-12, 07:48 PM
Most people have a small world view and are not able to consider the possibility of there being other ways to be and still be ok.

Los Angeles for one thing is where all the pornstars are at.

People who have a large world view, ultimately will face a problem of setting margins in their life of what is acceptable and what is not...and most can't handle that so they succumb to total freedom to do anything they want. The results speak of themselves for such people.

Fraggle Rocker
07-09-12, 09:21 PM
Porn stars are occasionally discovered and make the transition to mainstream TV. One of the stars on a popular soap opera was originally in porno. We were googling her one day and up popped a bunch of shots from porn movies. What a surprise! Damn was she beautiful and sexy! I'm sure the company who hired her made a lot of money off of her films.

Eventually all the porno shots disappeared. Presumably the TV network reached an agreement with the porno company and paid them to remove the shots.

Incidents like this keep the dream alive among other young girls, that if they become successful at porno they might get lucky and become real stars.

No, I'm not going to tell you this girl's name. I like her so I'm going to do her a favor. Lots of people have done favors for me throughout my life, so I can afford to do one for somebody else, even if she'll never know it.

Ya done good, Sweetie.

R1D2
07-09-12, 09:44 PM
girls line up for the sex industry to become a porn star, there is money and fame there for them. Their boobs and vagina will be seen across the globe :rolleyes: while they can do their pedicure and brush-ups and living the high life. What shame and guilt? They don't feel anything close to that, its a fight on business, take out the competition and have lots of fun.


I take it that you don't see that as shallow. An over time depressing, not to mention that they take several episodes just for one 10-15 min clip. No one could last as long as them with out stopping an then continuing. An sometimes I don't doubt some females get hurt an insurance can't be good its all out degrading an very sad.... An what about the "scenes" there cheap an fake an half the time the paired people are not there types. Ridiculous that they live the high life without guilt an shame. Now I would think they do drug screens. But how do you "perform" with out them. You are a paid slut going at it all day. It can't be "fun"..

youreyes
07-09-12, 10:03 PM
I take it that you don't see that as shallow. An over time depressing, not to mention that they take several episodes just for one 10-15 min clip. No one could last as long as them with out stopping an then continuing. An sometimes I don't doubt some females get hurt an insurance can't be good its all out degrading an very sad.... An what about the "scenes" there cheap an fake an half the time the paired people are not there types. Ridiculous that they live the high life without guilt an shame. Now I would think they do drug screens. But how do you "perform" with out them. You are a paid slut going at it all day. It can't be "fun"..

you can't last so long as to become a pornstar without having it being "fun". Once margins of morality are crossed, the same rules do not apply.

Saint
07-10-12, 09:08 AM
pornstars are illicit.

youreyes
07-10-12, 09:15 AM
pornstars are illicit.

they are certainly not illegal. otherwise U.S.A would not be so famous for them.

Fraggle Rocker
07-10-12, 11:59 AM
pornstars are illicit.That is not true in most of the Western world. Pornography is big business in the USA. The market is comparable in size to the market for regular entertainment.

Saint
07-10-12, 08:09 PM
If you sell porn materials to people below the age of 18, would it be an offence?

spidergoat
07-10-12, 08:51 PM
Yes, over 18 only. Most porn stars do it for the money. And it can be fun. And they probably don't care what their parents think if they still talk to them.

Buddha12
07-11-12, 06:50 AM
http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/81/697ABEF239FFD7B5FA6E3214F94C9.jpg

Hollie Stevens, 30, an adult film actress known for clown-themed porn has died from cancer. Before her death, Stevens said she hoped people would remember her for more than her choice of work.

http://specials.msn.com/a-list/news/queen-of-clown-porn-dies-popular-pages

So even she thought she was doing something wrong if she expressed that sentiment at her death. Terrible waste of life but that's what she chose to be doing.

youreyes
07-11-12, 07:33 AM
RIP Hollie Stevens, the pornstar who had a dream to be remembered for something she wasn't.

Saint
07-11-12, 09:37 AM
http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/81/697ABEF239FFD7B5FA6E3214F94C9.jpg

Hollie Stevens, 30, an adult film actress known for clown-themed porn has died from cancer. Before her death, Stevens said she hoped people would remember her for more than her choice of work.

http://specials.msn.com/a-list/news/queen-of-clown-porn-dies-popular-pages

So even she thought she was doing something wrong if she expressed that sentiment at her death. Terrible waste of life but that's what she chose to be doing.

She chose wrong and went to Hell. :mad:

Buddha12
07-11-12, 09:43 AM
She chose wrong and went to Hell. :mad:

No, she died and that's all that happened to her. It is unfortunate she felt the way she did about what she was doing , as I have pointed out in my past posts on this thread, but it is what she chose to do.

Saint
07-11-12, 01:16 PM
She chose to do stupid thing.
You can do anything, but the consequences will judge you, did you make the right choice?

spidergoat
07-11-12, 01:20 PM
There are few consequences for such a career choice. There is a slim risk of HIV and other diseases, but it's probably safer then most people's sex lives. Of course, there is no heaven or hell either.

Buddha12
07-11-12, 01:48 PM
She chose to do stupid thing.
You can do anything, but the consequences will judge you, did you make the right choice?

The question isn't whether or not I made the right choice but if you do in your own life. Asking others what their lives brought them won't make yours any better or worse.

Mine has been full of errors and fortunate experiences that I've learned from. Without both experiences I wouldn't be who I am today, a learning person still trying to figure it all out and will still make errors to learn from. :itold:

spidergoat
07-11-12, 02:53 PM
You can do anything, but the consequences will judge you, did you make the right choice?

No, I didn't. I didn't do anything spectacular that would make God mad and glorify Satan the Lord of This World, and that makes me sad.

Saint
07-11-12, 07:44 PM
A prisoner did not care about laws when he broke the laws, but the laws will put him in prison after that.

You made the wrong choice, you go to hell! This is the law.

quadraphonics
07-11-12, 08:24 PM
That is not true in most of the Western world. Pornography is big business in the USA. The market is comparable in size to the market for regular entertainment.

The part about the demand side is true enough - but the supply side is a different story. It is definitely illegal to produce pornography in most parts of the Western World. That's why almost all such pornography is produced in a handful of places (California, specific European countries, etc.). Try to produce pornography anywhere else in the West, and you'll immediately run afoul of laws against solicitation and so on, and go to prison.

quadraphonics
07-11-12, 08:24 PM
She chose wrong and went to Hell. :mad:

Wow, what a total dick thing to say about somebody you know pretty much nothing about.

spidergoat
07-11-12, 08:47 PM
A prisoner did not care about laws when he broke the laws, but the laws will put him in prison after that.

You made the wrong choice, you go to hell! This is the law.

I want to go to hell, it's a great place full of awesome people. What makes you think otherwise?

Saint
07-11-12, 08:54 PM
After you had gone to hell, please send me an sms to report the situation there.

youreyes
07-12-12, 03:14 AM
After you had gone to hell, please send me an sms to report the situation there.

incoming roaming charges apply.

spidergoat
07-12-12, 11:41 AM
You'll get there first.

Sarkus
07-15-12, 04:12 PM
It is unfortunate she felt the way she did about what she was doing , as I have pointed out in my past posts on this thread, but it is what she chose to do.I don't think it's too unfortunate a thing to say at all: I certainly hope that I'm remembered for more than my choice of work!
Don't you hope for the same? Or is your work the only thing you want to be remembered for?

Fraggle Rocker
07-16-12, 10:31 PM
She chose wrong and went to Hell.There are many worse things one can be than a porn star. Just a couple:A soldier who goes around killing people. A priest who teaches people that gods and heaven and hell are real.

Aqueous Id
07-17-12, 12:08 AM
Now you're talking. Or how about selling bogus mortgage-backed securities, polluting the gulf or selling toys with lead-based paint.

Oh: and teaching that the earth is 6,000 years old, that Adam and Eve were the first humans, and that all life was once wiped out by a global flood.

seagypsy
07-17-12, 01:40 AM
Los Angeles for one thing is where all the pornstars are at.

People who have a large world view, ultimately will face a problem of setting margins in their life of what is acceptable and what is not...and most can't handle that so they succumb to total freedom to do anything they want. The results speak of themselves for such people.

I disagree with you. I know plenty of people with large world views and they have no problems setting boundaries in their lives. I for one am very conservative in how I conduct my life. But I don't judge others for making decisions they feel is right for them even if I disagree or would have chosen differently. To each his own does not mean to everyone anarchy.

R1D2
07-17-12, 07:01 AM
F.R. & A.I. I disagree with your feelings about soldiers say what you will about religion.

R1D2
07-17-12, 07:30 AM
Quick question. What level or type of porn are we really talking about? Hard core, soft, internet, etc... I have heard soft porn isn't to bad to some people.

Gremmie
07-17-12, 10:23 AM
I have heard soft porn isn't to bad to some people.

Then again, there are those that feel hard core isn't a bad thing either...
I know several people that check out porn,and see nothing wrong with it... Of course, they would be devestated if THEIR daughter was ever involved in the business.

KilljoyKlown
07-17-12, 10:45 AM
Then again, there are those that feel hard core isn't a bad thing either...
I know several people that check out porn,and see nothing wrong with it... Of course, they would be devastated if THEIR daughter was ever involved in the business.

Maybe, but kids sometimes follow in the footsteps of their parents. Do you think parents in the porn business wouldn't want their kids to follow in their footsteps?

Gremmie
07-17-12, 10:49 AM
Maybe, but kids sometimes follow in the footsteps of their parents. Do you think parents in the porn business wouldn't want their kids to follow in their footsteps?

I can only speculate here...

But, I'd guess that more often than not, they would have their objections to it...Of course this doesn't mean they wouldn't still get into the biz.

KilljoyKlown
07-17-12, 11:04 AM
I can only speculate here...

But, I'd guess that more often than not, they would have their objections to it...Of course this doesn't mean they wouldn't still get into the biz.

What do you think the number one reason is, that attracts people into that business? I remember reading a Q & A with Ron Jeramey, and when he was asked why, he said he really liked to fuck and he wanted to fuck as many beautiful women as possible. He then asked is it wrong to make money doing something you really want to do?

Despite what his parents and family want. Should he not go into the business because of what they want?

Gremmie
07-17-12, 11:11 AM
What do you think the number one reason is, that attracts people into that business? I remember reading a Q & A with Ron Jeramey, and when he was asked why, he said he really liked to fuck and he wanted to fuck as many beautiful women as possible. He then asked is it wrong to make money doing something you really want to do?

Despite what his parents and family want. Should he not go into the business because of what they want?

Well, I think there are several diff. reasons why people get into porn...

I also think men and women do it for diff. reasons as well. (not always of course).

Men don't get paid nearly as much as females. (there are a few exceptions though, like Ron Jeremy.)

For a man, it's more of an ego trip. And females, more of a money issue. And then, there's the attention they get.

Many never felt loved, and somehow they do, even if it's for just a few moments.

As far as what the family wants...How many of us wind up doing what our parents would have us do?

R1D2
08-03-12, 11:35 AM
Just asking, aren't porn stars like legal prostitutes?

spidergoat
08-03-12, 11:45 AM
They aren't usually having sex with the person who hired them.

KilljoyKlown
08-03-12, 11:55 AM
Just asking, aren't porn stars like legal prostitutes?

Just two consenting adults willing to do it in front of a camera for money.:D

Bebelina
08-03-12, 01:53 PM
I don't know why people work as pornstars. Some of them volunteer and some are forced.

Anyway, on a not so funny sidenote..a French tv-team visisted me last week to make a little portrait ( will be shown next year in feb or march) and they wanted to film me when I walked out from my house. The thing is, there's always a group of teenage boys sitting outside and usually they keep calm and don't say anything to me, but now they got all worked up and started shouting anything they could come up with, like:
- Why are they filming you? Are you a pornstar!?

I wish I had a more witty comment than:
- No, but maybe you should become one.

Well, I told the tv-guys to punch them on the way out later, and I haven't seen them since.

So be careful to call me anything pornrelated.

:D

KilljoyKlown
08-03-12, 02:15 PM
I don't know why people work as pornstars. Some of them volunteer and some are forced.

Anyway, on a not so funny sidenote..a French tv-team visisted me last week to make a little portrait ( will be shown next year in feb or march) and they wanted to film me when I walked out from my house. The thing is, there's always a group of teenage boys sitting outside and usually they keep calm and don't say anything to me, but now they got all worked up and started shouting anything they could come up with, like:
- Why are they filming you? Are you a pornstar!?

I wish I had a more witty comment than:
- No, but maybe you should become one.

Well, I told the tv-guys to punch them on the way out later, and I haven't seen them since.

So be careful to call me anything pornrelated.

:D

You should be flattered that they thought you looked good enough to be a pornstar.:D

Aqueous Id
08-03-12, 02:23 PM
Ok, I don't want to get beaned by 900 pound camera.

But: A French TV team and a little portrait - that's all you're going to give us?

How did you happen to come into the limelight, or would that let the cat out of the bag?

So far you've left us in a cliffhanger . . . I can think of countless scenarios, none of which are sordid.

Music? Did involve celebrity or public interest in your performance art?

RedStar
08-03-12, 02:24 PM
In answer to the OP, capitalism creates desperation and desperate people sell themselves in order to survive.

Bebelina
08-03-12, 02:27 PM
You should be flattered that they thought you looked good enough to be a pornstar.:D

I was a little too....:o

Bebelina
08-03-12, 02:33 PM
Ok, I don't want to get beaned by 900 pound camera.

But: A French TV team and a little portrait - that's all you're going to give us?

How did you happen to come into the limelight, or would that let the cat out of the bag?

So far you've left us in a cliffhanger . . . I can think of countless scenarios, none of which are sordid.

Music? Did involve celebrity or public interest in your performance art?

Yes, music and writing and art too, loveaffairs with famous persons etc. I'm already infamous in Europe for some odd reason, so they wanted to meet the real person behind the rumours and I tried my best to be real, which is not easy when being so surrealistically and unrealistically beautiful. :D

Promo
08-03-12, 03:19 PM
In answer to the OP, capitalism creates desperation and desperate people sell themselves in order to survive.

Guess that’s why there are so many Russian mail order bride websites. All those desperate Russians, always trying to come to America.

RedStar
08-03-12, 03:53 PM
Guess that’s why there are so many Russian mail order bride websites. All those desperate Russians, always trying to come to America.

Exactly. The Russian Federation (modern day) has resulted in decreased living standards and worse conditions for the Russian people, hence the desperation we are seeing under capitalism that I was talking about.

Saint
08-13-12, 01:21 AM
Why do most female porn stars have their pussies shaved cleanly?

KilljoyKlown
08-13-12, 12:11 PM
Why do most female porn stars have their pussies shaved cleanly?

I don't know about you, but I dislike watching a pussy with a 5 o'clock shadow.:D

Promo
08-13-12, 02:56 PM
I don't know about you, but I dislike watching a pussy with a 5 o'clock shadow.:D

Hitting "like button"...Killjoy you crack me up

KilljoyKlown
08-13-12, 04:42 PM
Hitting "like button"...Killjoy you crack me up

I almost said for the same reason male porno stars shave their balls.:D

Promo
08-13-12, 05:22 PM
I almost said for the same reason male porno stars shave their balls.:D

I am a fan of the 70's era porn where the dudes had afro pubes

Fraggle Rocker
08-13-12, 05:34 PM
I don't know about you, but I dislike watching a pussy with a 5 o'clock shadow.I find that shaved look kinda creepy, myself. I liked the good old days au naturel. I've never encountered a shaved one in real life. I'm not sure I'd be very happy with it. I wonder how many other old guys feel the same way? I would think the stubble would be damned uncomfortable and annoying.

35 years ago when I was single it just wasn't in vogue yet. Hell, it hadn't been that long ago that women stopped shaving their legs. I never minded that either. Much softer than stubble.

Saint
08-14-12, 12:07 AM
Why do most female porn stars have their pussies shaved cleanly?

Saint
08-14-12, 12:07 AM
Are there people who are specialized in shaving pussy?

R1D2
08-14-12, 08:05 AM
Hey "Saint",
There is laser hair removal. Painless an permanent. Those specialists will laser any hair. I personally think a trimmed one is hmm.... A better way to go. That's my preference though. Also there is Nair it lasts a while. An there is other hair remover products.
A trimmed one vs a completely bare hairless type.
If I had a choice I'd pick trimmed, the "bear" type kinda makes me think young girls, they are the ones that are supposed to have no hair, an a super long time ago when I had seen porn I only recall maybe seeing one female porn star that was fully shaved.

Now F.R. I have noticed only a few women that haven't shaved there legs. Maybe 2 Americans an the others were German, an like 3 others I didn't see, but I heard in Ohio that during winter, these older women like ? 40 - 55, an single, didn't shave during winter. But seeing a hairy woman's leg is kinda gross to me.

I also don't like seeing a "wigs" worth of hair in a woman's armpit. That needs to be shaved or something.
Of course these, are my Opinions though.

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 10:06 AM
Hey "Saint",
There is laser hair removal. Painless an permanent. Those specialists will laser any hair. I personally think a trimmed one is hmm.... A better way to go. That's my preference though. Also there is Nair it lasts a while. An there is other hair remover products.
A trimmed one vs a completely bare hairless type.
If I had a choice I'd pick trimmed, the "bear" type kinda makes me think young girls, they are the ones that are supposed to have no hair, an a super long time ago when I had seen porn I only recall maybe seeing one female porn star that was fully shaved.

Now F.R. I have noticed only a few women that haven't shaved there legs. Maybe 2 Americans an the others were German, an like 3 others I didn't see, but I heard in Ohio that during winter, these older women like ? 40 - 55, an single, didn't shave during winter. But seeing a hairy woman's leg is kinda gross to me.

I also don't like seeing a "wigs" worth of hair in a woman's armpit. That needs to be shaved or something.
Of course these, are my Opinions though.

Thanks for my morning laugh. Yes black harry armpits on a woman are a bit of a turnoff. I believe that happens more in Europe than here in the U.S. I also agree that a trimmed well groomed pussy beats the completely shaved ones. How do you feel about a man being well groomed in that area?:D

R1D2
08-14-12, 10:54 AM
I would comment only on here that all men need some. An it is my opinion that a woman likes a trimmed male lower region. So if I fulfill your comment Klown, I would say we should trim as well. An go bald only on our head. An I heard from a individual that drag queens shave both there mustache an beard down there because they have to use tape. So I ain't shaving there, I don't have to use tape.
An I have seen some women in stores with wigs under there arms in ohio an florida, one was on a beach.

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 11:36 AM
I would comment only on here that all men need some. An it is my opinion that a woman likes a trimmed male lower region. So if I fulfill your comment Klown, I would say we should trim as well. An go bald only on our head. An I heard from a individual that drag queens shave both there mustache an beard down there because they have to use tape. So I ain't shaving there, I don't have to use tape.
An I have seen some women in stores with wigs under there arms in Ohio an Florida, one was on a beach.

Did you ask them if they were on vacation from Europe or recently immigrated from there? Most U.S. raised girls get a tremendous amount of peer pressure in school and not getting any guys interested in them also creates pressure to modify grooming. I've heard from some female friends that most girls in high school these days wear thongs all the time. Wearing a thong without trimming looks bad.

superstring01
08-14-12, 11:47 AM
I will admit, I prefer hairless nuggets and a manscaped activity area.

I will quote Dr. Evil who said it best: †". . .There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."

~String

†"Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."

Skandinavi
08-14-12, 12:05 PM
I usualy watch Amateur, or European porn. American porn for years has become more degenerate, & more fake.

R1D2
08-14-12, 12:14 PM
Did you ask them if they were on vacation from Europe or recently immigrated from there? Most U.S. raised girls get a tremendous amount of peer pressure in school and not getting any guys interested in them also creates pressure to modify grooming. I've heard from some female friends that most girls in high school these days wear thongs all the time. Wearing a thong without trimming looks bad.


Dang it Man!! They didn't all wear thongs when I was in school! An if I had a daughter wearing a thong an I found out... Well she would hate me!
An what about those "butch" lesbians? Some of them let all there hair grow. I think. An dress like men. An act like men.
(But I don't think they truly can fight or hit like men imo, don't know though, but my buddy does :) )

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 12:19 PM
I will admit, I prefer hairless nuggets and a manscaped activity area.

I will quote Dr. Evil who said it best: †". . .There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."

~String

†"Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical, summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds, pretty standard really. At the age of 12 I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen, a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it's breathtaking, I suggest you try it."

:D I'm pretty sure more guys are doing that, than are willing to admit. By the way, I've never heard the term "manscaped" before. Is that original? Also, what method of shaving that area works best for you? Have you ever had a female partner tell you how much they appreciate it?:D

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 12:23 PM
I usually watch Amateur, or European porn. American porn for years has become more degenerate, & more fake.

Welcome to the forum. It always amazes me the things that inspire someone to make a first post. :D

superstring01
08-14-12, 12:24 PM
:D I'm pretty sure more guys are doing that, than are willing to admit. By the way, I've never heard the term "manscaped" before. Is that original? Also, what method of shaving that area works best for you? Have you ever had a female partner tell you how much they appreciate it?:D

Last time I had sexual contact with a female was 1998 and involved a threesome with an extraordinarily attractive and well-endowed Italian gentleman†, several tablets of ecstasy and a hot tub in my back yard while living in Key West.

The hot dub had to be drained the next day.

I have no idea what she appreciated regarding male entertainment-region-follicles.

Re: maintenance. The job can typically be achieved with a simple Gillette, some shaving cream and a hot shower. If it's the first foray into cleaning the shrubbery, preliminary electrical remediation may be required in advance of a shower.

~String

†I had been a bar tender with him at TGI Friday's and was secretly lusting after him for quite a while, but given my certainty of his heterosexuality, it was only a fantasy. In a total homo "Dear Penthouse" moment, we were in the hot tub, his shorts came off and he started making out with me. I was not in any way expecting any variety of sex. It happened. It was dirty. It's one of my more fond moments in life. That . . . and the one-on-one engagements we had for several months after that.

Hold on. Be back in five minutes . . . nah, I only need one.

R1D2
08-14-12, 12:34 PM
You didn't know about ~String, Klown. He is not too shy, I think he has been out of the closet here awhile. An ~string TMI!

Skandinavi welcome to the forums! Hope you "hang" around awhile!

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 12:47 PM
Last time I had sexual contact with a female was 1998 and involved a threesome with an extraordinarily attractive and well-endowed Italian gentleman†, several tablets of ecstasy and a hot tub in my back yard while living in Key West.

The hot dub had to be drained the next day.

I have no idea what she appreciated regarding male entertainment-region-follicles.

Re: maintenance. The job can typically be achieved with a simple Gillette, some shaving cream and a hot shower. If it's the first foray into cleaning the shrubbery, preliminary electrical remediation may be required in advance of a shower.

~String

Yes it only takes one male orgasm to sour a hot tub and as much fun as it is, the work of draining, cleaning and refilling gets old really fast. But if you time it to just before your going to clean it anyway. (Just saying) Also try the new Gillette five blade with a vibration button.

Promo
08-14-12, 12:50 PM
The hot tub had to be drained the next day.[/FONT][/SIZE]

This post SLAYED me at work, now I have coworkers staring at me wondering why I can't stop laughing.

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 12:52 PM
You didn't know about ~String, Klown. He is not too shy, I think he has been out of the closet here awhile. An ~string TMI!

No doubt about it and many gays have been with the opposite sex and it doesn't hurt to ask.:D

superstring01
08-14-12, 12:53 PM
MANSCAPING (courtesy of Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Manscaping)



1. manscaping
to groom a man. Shaving, waxing, cleaning up the superfluous fur.

2. manscaping
A term used to define male grooming below the belt. A male can use both an electric razor or a regular razor.

Re: R1D2

I grow ever more unable to stand Victorian sensitives. I really don't get it. Let's look at this from a "100KM in the air" perspective. What is all the big deal about? It's a penis. It's an anus. It's a vagina (yukky). I'm not accusing you of having such over-sensitivity, only that I have no idea why people are so afraid to talk about the physical contact of one skin cell with another. So, yeah, I enjoy when the skin cells of my penis come into contact the the skin cells on my boyfriend's hand, rear end, mouth. Whatever.

In fact, I'm pretty excited about the whole thing. My penis brings me far too much joy to be shy about the whole affair.

~String

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 01:00 PM
This post SLAYED me at work, now I have coworkers staring at me wondering why I can't stop laughing.

I'm not sure working the forum at work is the best way to go. But I can tell you that sex in a hot tub will make it cloudy and no amount of chemicals or filtration will clear it up. I guarantee you will not want to climb into that hot tub until it's been drained and refilled. The YUCK! effect is just to strong.:D

superstring01
08-14-12, 01:03 PM
No doubt about it and many gays have been with the opposite sex and it doesn't hurt to ask.:D

I've had sex with --- lemme see here --- seven I think.


Shelly - 8th grade - blowjob in the woods behind my best friend's house.
Heather - 8th grade - full deal, in my brother's bedroom while the family was away at a baseball thing.
Alonna - Summer between 8th & 9th grade - multiple activities, both oral and vaginal.
Female ???? - Fall @ University of Toledo on a visit to my older brother - botched attempt at cunnilingus. ABORT ABORT. Oops. Too late. I vomed.
Brian - 9th grade - [not a female, granted, but in there] First man-on-man oral sex followed by several botched attempts and a few successes at anal sex. My young rear end wasn't ready for it. Oddly enough he was a senior and seemed to not have any difficulty. In retrospect, he was pretty big and my probably less fully-developed penis may well have been in the Goldilocks Zone for ease of entry.
Alessandra - 10th grade year - Vaginal. Last female for a long while.
Octavio - 10th grade year - really good sex. Hot guy. Amazing body. First uncircumcised penis I'd ever seen. Beginning of a 10 year fixation (no longer even important).
Female ???? - 19 years old - She was my attempt at "becoming straight". I had already been "out" since 17. It couldn't have been good for her. Having sampled the "love that dare not speak its name", it was hard for me to even remain erect.
Men too numerous to count.
Female, Name begins with a "B" - Winter of 1998 - My back yard. Hot tub. Hopped up on a combination of ecstasy and meth (no doubt). It was a threesome though, so I was sort of thinking about Kevin. She just got the residual arousal from his presence.


I've been there. Not really had much desire to go back. Since it was never really that good for me, it can't have been good for her(s) either.

~String

superstring01
08-14-12, 01:06 PM
Yes it only takes one male orgasm to sour a hot tub and as much fun as it is, the work of draining, cleaning and refilling gets old really fast. But if you time it to just before your going to clean it anyway. (Just saying) Also try the new Gillette five blade with a vibration button.

Well that hot tub was the unfortunate repository for so much of my RNA and that of a parade of men that--frankly--I stopped draining it and found a chemical that was--ahem--designed to make protein float to the surface, collect and easy to filter.

To the Gillette-- I want a shave, not an orgasm.

~String

R1D2
08-14-12, 01:14 PM
String,
If you are referring to my TMI comment. It was too much information that you yourself needed a.." relief". Just thinking about your past Italian, romances.

I am not to familiar with your term victorian sensitivities.

An again for the record I have a out in the open gay cousin. Who has been married an has 2 kids. An we do get along fairly good considering we are in different states... An I have been friends with a few over the years.

I have not tried anal sex. I don't wanna, but I hear you can with a woman. An it just may feel the same as a man. An I herd it feels like your with a virgin every time. An some women do prefer it.

KilljoyKlown
08-14-12, 01:21 PM
To the Gillette-- I want a shave, not an orgasm.

~String

It vibrates just enough to make all kinds of shaving much easier. I've never been nicked with one and that's more than I can say for single edged razors or even electric razors.:D

superstring01
08-14-12, 01:36 PM
String,
If you are referring to my TMI comment. It was too much information that you yourself needed a.." relief". Just thinking about your past Italian, romances.

I am not to familiar with your term victorian sensitivities.

An again for the record I have a out in the open gay cousin. Who has been married an has 2 kids. An we do get along fairly good considering we are in different states... An I have been friends with a few over the years.

I have not tried anal sex. I don't wanna, but I hear you can with a woman. An it just may feel the same as a man. An I herd it feels like your with a virgin every time. An some women do prefer it.

The Victorians (an era named after the Queen of England known for her moral rectitude; an era which saw every attempt both scientific and social to repress human nature) have bequeathed us a lot of bullshit that we are fighting to this day.

As to the "virgin every time" presumably there are a few candidates out there who've had sufficient traffic both in terms of quantity and quality that any virginesque qualities no longer apply. See: Fisting.


I've never been nicked with one and that's more than I can say for single edged razors or even electric razors.:D

Savage!

~String

seagypsy
08-16-12, 08:28 PM
Why do most female porn stars have their pussies shaved cleanly?

You seem very enthusiastic in judging others and condemning them to your fantastical horror land of hell. I wonder if your beliefs consider WATCHING porn to be something that will get you into hell. After all, paying the money to see it, creates the demand for it, which contributes to the delinquency of those to participate in creating it. Also you have quite the foul mouth using the word "pussy" for someone who calls himself "saint". Of course, I'm sure you NEVER watch porn or think about pussy. You heard they were shaven from someone else right? And someone else told you to word your question in such a way. Maybe you should stop listening to Satan.

KilljoyKlown
08-16-12, 09:01 PM
You seem very enthusiastic in judging others and condemning them to your fantastical horror land of hell. I wonder if your beliefs consider WATCHING porn to be something that will get you into hell. After all, paying the money to see it, creates the demand for it, which contributes to the delinquency of those to participate in creating it. Also you have quite the foul mouth using the word "pussy" for someone who calls himself "saint". Of course, I'm sure you NEVER watch porn or think about pussy. You heard they were shaven from someone else right? And someone else told you to word your question in such a way. Maybe you should stop listening to Satan.

Wow! A delayed response and somewhat emotional too. Is there something about this topic that bothers you?

seagypsy
08-16-12, 09:14 PM
Wow! A delayed response and somewhat emotional too. Is there something about this topic that bothers you?

The emotions I was feeling while writing that was amusement in the stupidity of his obvious hypocrisy, and annoyance at the hypocrisy itself. And I was anticipating the usual responses to my remarks, so went ahead and addressed them.

As far as emotions towards porn... I don't really have any. In the past I would become hostile towards the very idea of it. But now I see it as just another concept I can choose to like or dislike without it being good or evil. Personally, I dislike porn. I think its gross. But I like spinach and some people think that's gross. So to each his own.

I don't think watching porn or doing porn makes a person good or bad. A person is what they are with or without porn. Much like religion. An asshole with religion will still be an asshole if he becomes atheist. Some people are just assholes. And a sweet person will be sweet with or without religion, with or without porn.

KilljoyKlown
08-16-12, 10:15 PM
The emotions I was feeling while writing that was amusement in the stupidity of his obvious hypocrisy, and annoyance at the hypocrisy itself. And I was anticipating the usual responses to my remarks, so went ahead and addressed them.

As far as emotions towards porn... I don't really have any. In the past I would become hostile towards the very idea of it. But now I see it as just another concept I can choose to like or dislike without it being good or evil. Personally, I dislike porn. I think its gross. But I like spinach and some people think that's gross. So to each his own.

I don't think watching porn or doing porn makes a person good or bad. A person is what they are with or without porn. Much like religion. An asshole with religion will still be an asshole if he becomes atheist. Some people are just assholes. And a sweet person will be sweet with or without religion, with or without porn.


Actually saint hasn't been very active in his topic, and I'm not seeing any hypocrisy, but perhaps we have very different point of views. saint does come up with some interesting topics and that counts for something after you've been around for a couple of years and start seeing the same old topics being repeated by each new crop of forum posters. Admittedly not all topics can be great for everybody, but on this forum there's usually a little something for everybody.

Personally porn doesn't hold a great deal of interest for me. But I do find it interesting watching how others respond to it. Also, it has helped advance the Internet a lot faster than it otherwise would have.

R1D2
08-16-12, 10:43 PM
Ya Hugh, the playboy king not looking at an making his magazines. But instead making an looking at porn sites.. Should help advance the internet...
I think there may have been a higher need like social media. That have helped advance internet. As well as governments trying to locate information easier. Rather than the porn industry.

seagypsy
08-16-12, 11:14 PM
Actually saint hasn't been very active in his topic, and I'm not seeing any hypocrisy, but perhaps we have very different point of views. saint does come up with some interesting topics and that counts for something after you've been around for a couple of years and start seeing the same old topics being repeated by each new crop of forum posters. Admittedly not all topics can be great for everybody, but on this forum there's usually a little something for everybody.

Personally porn doesn't hold a great deal of interest for me. But I do find it interesting watching how others respond to it. Also, it has helped advance the Internet a lot faster than it otherwise would have.

I am not familiar with saint. I have only seen, that I can remember off the top of my head, saint's posts in this one thread. Early on s/he said people would go to hell for doing porn. Then turned around and gave a question indicating that s/he has some experience in at least watching porn. I have known many people who will degrade and insult those who make porn yet they hoard a large collection of porn videos. It's the same mentality of a drug dealer that does not use. They will look down on the drug users while at the same time pushing the drugs and creating new addicts. The mentality sickens me.

At the same time if I see saint post something that is profound or at least logical and rational, without being insulting. Hell even if its not entirely sane but is polite, I would not have anything to say against saint. But I will bust my best friend's chops if they say something ridiculous. I think in the past you have approved of many of my posts. You disagreed this time at least to an extent and you called me on it. I respect that.

I'm guessing we do have different points of view. In regards to starting good threads, that's great. I can understand why you appreciate that. From a mother's perspective I see it like this. My daughter is an honor roll student, stays out of trouble, and tells me everything. But sometimes she will do something profoundly stupid. I don't let it slide just because she is usually good. I read her the riot act. Because as smart as she is, there is no excuse for profoundly stupid behavior. Because she consistently shows me that she is bright and intelligent, she has presented the evidence that I can and should expect more from her.

There are members on this forum, I won't name names, who consistently show their lack of intellect and capability of rational logical thought. I don't put much effort into correcting them because I feel they are doing the best they can with what they got. Until I know that this is the case with an individual, I assume they are at least of average intelligence. When they show me otherwise I just put them on ignore.

As smart as a few flatterers on here seem to think I am, I am as capable as the next primate of flinging poo when I get worked into a tizzy. I am certainly not immune to making the occasional idiotic remark, and I would think less of you if you didn't call me on it when I do.

ETA: my delayed response was because I hadn't signed in for a while, almost forgot about the forum.

KilljoyKlown
08-17-12, 07:51 AM
I am not familiar with saint. I have only seen, that I can remember off the top of my head, saint's posts in this one thread. Early on s/he said people would go to hell for doing porn. Then turned around and gave a question indicating that s/he has some experience in at least watching porn. I have known many people who will degrade and insult those who make porn yet they hoard a large collection of porn videos. It's the same mentality of a drug dealer that does not use. They will look down on the drug users while at the same time pushing the drugs and creating new addicts. The mentality sickens me.

At the same time if I see saint post something that is profound or at least logical and rational, without being insulting. Hell even if its not entirely sane but is polite, I would not have anything to say against saint. But I will bust my best friend's chops if they say something ridiculous. I think in the past you have approved of many of my posts. You disagreed this time at least to an extent and you called me on it. I respect that.

I'm guessing we do have different points of view. In regards to starting good threads, that's great. I can understand why you appreciate that. From a mother's perspective I see it like this. My daughter is an honor roll student, stays out of trouble, and tells me everything. But sometimes she will do something profoundly stupid. I don't let it slide just because she is usually good. I read her the riot act. Because as smart as she is, there is no excuse for profoundly stupid behavior. Because she consistently shows me that she is bright and intelligent, she has presented the evidence that I can and should expect more from her.

There are members on this forum, I won't name names, who consistently show their lack of intellect and capability of rational logical thought. I don't put much effort into correcting them because I feel they are doing the best they can with what they got. Until I know that this is the case with an individual, I assume they are at least of average intelligence. When they show me otherwise I just put them on ignore.

As smart as a few flatterers on here seem to think I am, I am as capable as the next primate of flinging poo when I get worked into a tizzy. I am certainly not immune to making the occasional idiotic remark, and I would think less of you if you didn't call me on it when I do.

ETA: my delayed response was because I hadn't signed in for a while, almost forgot about the forum.

It's just that I'm not used to you expressing yourself so strongly. Clearly saint pushed one of your buttons. I can't say I closely follow anyone so I do miss topics. Plus this is not the only forum I post in, although I consider this my primary forum. Given my current living location and condition, I would probably go crazy if I didn't have forums for a distraction and a way to alleviate boredom. I don't know how smart you are, but you do have a high degree of common sense and are able to clearly articulate what you are saying and I do find that refreshing.:D

Gregg Schaffter
08-17-12, 08:13 AM
I think the million dollar business of pornstars is really the fault of the customers(pretty much most of the US of A). If people would stop purchasing porn, the business would eventually die down, but as we all know there are those perverted people out there, so the porn business wouldn't be ending any time soon. It is also the fault of Society(I use a capital for a reason). Children are taught that they need to do certain things in order to fit their gender role. For example, boys are taught that they need to be violent and feel no pain, which also comes with that they need to like girls and porn and within the field I won't bring detail into. Women are taught to like dolls and so called feminine products such as make up, which then comes with them needing to like boys and being the weak and defensless ones. The one problem with this is gender roles. A lot of boys who do not do porn or not like girls(not implying that they are gay) most of the time get rejected by the general community due to the existence of Society.

Therefore, eliminate the existence of Society and the like of porn and you lower down or even eliminate the pornstar business(easier said than done of course).

Promo
08-17-12, 08:19 AM
I think the million dollar business of pornstars is really the fault of the customers(pretty much most of the US of A). If people would stop purchasing porn, the business would eventually die down, but as we all know there are those perverted people out there, so the porn business wouldn't be ending any time soon. It is also the fault of Society(I use a capital for a reason). Children are taught that they need to do certain things in order to fit their gender role. For example, boys are taught that they need to be violent and feel no pain, which also comes with that they need to like girls and porn and within the field I won't bring detail into. Women are taught to like dolls and so called feminine products such as make up, which then comes with them needing to like boys and being the weak and defensless ones. The one problem with this is gender roles. A lot of boys who do not do porn or not like girls(not implying that they are gay) most of the time get rejected by the general community due to the existence of Society.

Therefore, eliminate the existence of Society and the like of porn and you lower down or even eliminate the pornstar business(easier said than done of course).
How do you figure its standard to teach boys to feel no pain and be violent? Same for the girls to only play with dolls? I think that’s a very ignorant statement, I feel it’s up to the parents on how they want to raise their own kids. I don’t think by buying a Barbie for a little girl that implants her to do adult porn when she’s older.

Gregg Schaffter
08-17-12, 08:28 AM
How do you figure its standard to teach boys to feel no pain and be violent? Same for the girls to only play with dolls? I think that’s a very ignorant statement, I feel it’s up to the parents on how they want to raise their own kids. I don’t think by buying a Barbie for a little girl that implants her to do adult porn when she’s older.
I never said it was up to anyone else to decide what the parents teach their children. All I am saying is the way Society is today there is a base upon what parents do teach their children. For example, if one parent was taught to follow upon the ideal of boys needing to stand up for what is right, the child, when married and/or having children, will teach their child the samething. That is how a society is officially formed.

Promo
08-17-12, 08:47 AM
I never said it was up to anyone else to decide what the parents teach their children. All I am saying is the way Society is today there is a base upon what parents do teach their children. For example, if one parent was taught to follow upon the ideal of boys needing to stand up for what is right, the child, when married and/or having children, will teach their child the samething. That is how a society is officially formed.

I know what you said, and you said" Children are taught that they need to do certain things in order to fit their gender role. For example, boys are taught that they need to be violent and feel no pain, which also comes with that they need to like girls and porn and within the field I won't bring detail into. Women are taught to like dolls and so called feminine products such as make up, which then comes with them needing to like boys and being the weak and defensless ones.You stated it as if it were a fact, which its not.

Gregg Schaffter
08-17-12, 08:57 AM
I know what you said, and you said" Children are taught that they need to do certain things in order to fit their gender role. For example, boys are taught that they need to be violent and feel no pain, which also comes with that they need to like girls and porn and within the field I won't bring detail into. Women are taught to like dolls and so called feminine products such as make up, which then comes with them needing to like boys and being the weak and defensless ones.You stated it as if it were a fact, which its not.
I am not going to argue what I said since I know what I said and it was never intended to mean anything you said.

KilljoyKlown
08-17-12, 09:09 AM
I think the million dollar business of pornstars is really the fault of the customers(pretty much most of the US of A). If people would stop purchasing porn, the business would eventually die down, but as we all know there are those perverted people out there, so the porn business wouldn't be ending any time soon. It is also the fault of Society(I use a capital for a reason). Children are taught that they need to do certain things in order to fit their gender role. For example, boys are taught that they need to be violent and feel no pain, which also comes with that they need to like girls and porn and within the field I won't bring detail into. Women are taught to like dolls and so called feminine products such as make up, which then comes with them needing to like boys and being the weak and defensless ones. The one problem with this is gender roles. A lot of boys who do not do porn or not like girls(not implying that they are gay) most of the time get rejected by the general community due to the existence of Society.

Therefore, eliminate the existence of Society and the like of porn and you lower down or even eliminate the pornstar business(easier said than done of course).

Hi Gregg, welcome to the forum. It's easy to tell your new to forums in general. If I were you, I'd select a new ID that has meaning to you and maybe an avatar to go with it. There is a lot to be said for posting from an anonymous ID. I can say that because I learned that the hard way in another forum after about 500 posts. If you decide to change, be sure an have a new ID in mind when you ask an Admin. to change it for you.

As far as porn goes, it's usually most popular with the young men as they are expected to be knowledgeable in love making, and they rarely get enough education on the subject while growing up in the home and in school. Also, the roll girls are expected to play is the innocent virgin, but they are just as curious about it as boys are, so I'm sure some porn would be of interest to them, while at the same time they are expected to denounce it in mixed company. For some reason adults don't think kids should know about sex until they move out of the house to be on their own, and that does create a ready market for the porn industry.:D

Gregg Schaffter
08-17-12, 09:29 AM
Hi Gregg, welcome to the forum. It's easy to tell your new to forums in general. If I were you, I'd select a new ID that has meaning to you and maybe an avatar to go with it. There is a lot to be said for posting from an anonymous ID. I can say that because I learned that the hard way in another forum after about 500 posts. If you decide to change, be sure an have a new ID in mind when you ask an Admin. to change it for you.

As far as porn goes, it's usually most popular with the young men as they are expected to be knowledgeable in love making, and they rarely get enough education on the subject while growing up in the home and in school. Also, the roll girls are expected to play is the innocent virgin, but they are just as curious about it as boys are, so I'm sure some porn would be of interest to them, while at the same time they are expected to denounce it in mixed company. For some reason adults don't think kids should know about sex until they move out of the house to be on their own, and that does create a ready market for the porn industry.:D
Thanks for the welcome! I might change my ID. I wanted to be formal when entering the forum, so I decided to use my name. :)

Well, I notice that a lot of boys are expected to like porn. For example, I knew a few people that asked me if I ever watched porn(never knew why they asked, but anyways) and when I said I don't watch it, they just said that real men are supposed to watch porn and until they do they aren't men, which is what has formed this society pretty much.

Again, thanks for the welcome.

Promo
08-17-12, 11:16 AM
I am not going to argue what I said since I know what I said and it was never intended to mean anything you said.

You said what you wrote, if you did not mean it to sound the way it was wrote then rethink your posts.

Gregg Schaffter
08-17-12, 11:19 AM
You said what you wrote, if you did not mean it to sound the way it was wrote then rethink your posts.
The way one perceives my post is none of my business really. I deal with this all the time, so I don't see why one has to get so hostile over a simple misunderstanding.

Promo
08-17-12, 11:38 AM
The way one perceives my post is none of my business really. I deal with this all the time, so I don't see why one has to get so hostile over a simple misunderstanding.

I am not getting hostile, just annoyed when you make such a broad statement such as all parents or Society rather, teach kids what you stated. That’s an incorrect statement, its how you feel. Saying you don’t care how people perceive your post tells me you don’t really care about the words you’re typing. Because you don’t really give a shit if they have an impact or not or are factual or not. If that’s the cause then why bother posting?

Question for you Greg do you have kids?

R1D2
08-17-12, 01:22 PM
Welcome Gregg,
Let's say if I raise my kid, weather or not its a boy or girl don't matter. I hope I instill some good values, an a few "passions",
I am not looking to raise a boy to be emotion less. An hide pain. An on the other hand I am not looking to raise a daughter to act weak an "helpless".
I want an hope that when my "kid" grows up in general, that my "kid" is able to defend themselves if need be like to hunt an fish. Do good in school, an have some common sense. I will say that I hope any kids I have don't participate in porn. But just like last year at a family reunion some kids found hustler an playboys. They likely looked at them before bringing them back to the "shelter". So porn is everywhere. I know I can't be everywhere. But in my role as a dad is I hope that my "kid" gets a sense, a strong sense of what's right an wrong. An that they see porn is mostly fake an a little wrong. Its not something to sit around with friends. Its not something that needs to be owned, or watched. It don't really help in sexual matters. It is not how you make love. An the action on T.V. Is just like WCW or WWE. Performed by paid actors.
I don't wish to elaborate my change in views about why I feel its slightly wrong. But I'm not 13-? 16.