So tight around the neck. Such a burden to put on. Looks dumb: just like a public display. Sure, it's a pattern of style dating back to the 17th century and was an indication of a membership to some sort of society or organization. By why still today? What's the purpose?

So tight around the neck. Such a burden to put on. Looks dumb: just like a public display. Sure, it's a pattern of style dating back to the 17th century and was an indication of a membership to some sort of society or organization. By why still today? What's the purpose?

I stopped the moment I retired. But the only reason I wore one up until that time was because it considered the "proper thing" for a professor to do.

Look at it from the other perspective; would I have appeared as professional if I showed up to give a lecture while wearing ragged jeans and a baseball cap?

I don't wear a tie. If I ever wore a tie, it'd be a bowtie. A white bowtie. Those look cool.

Sure, it's a pattern of style dating back to the 17th century and was an indication of a membership to some sort of society or organization. By why still today? What's the purpose?

That's basically it. Until our old and outdated bosses finally croak and have new people in charge, it'll remain that way.

Do people in Japan still wear suits? I remember awhile back hearing that for the Kyoto Protocol, they were going to keep their use their air conditioners a few degrees less, which uses less energy but makes it more hot, so they were going to quit wearing suits for it. Did that go through and is it still happening?

would I have appeared as professional if I showed up to give a lecture while wearing ragged jeans and a baseball cap?

Well nobody is saying ragged jeans and a baseball cap, heh. How about just some nice pants or dockers with a collared or polo shirt? Thankfully the casual wear of most offices are like that, not requiring a full on suit and tie.

- N

Hong Kong too was saying that they were going to lower the themostats and not require their employees to wear suits and ties (just short-sleeve shirts instead), but I have no idea if this worked yet. It's ironic that it's now even a tradition of seniority and respect in Asia even though Asians never even wore them before Westerners arrived. They just adopted the style to comform to international proper attire.

I'm in the same position too. Sometimes you just have to wear a suit and tie or else you come across as a rag-tagged bum, but there are some break aways out there that do defy it. And then out here in the Southwest (Nevada-Arizona-Texas) they often wear those slide-chord-pendant bolo ties and they seem to be accepted as an alternative.

I've had to wear a tie for work previously, but generally, as long as we are presentable, we don't have to wear one. I don't, therefore. Even if I wear a jacket, I usually opt for a roll neck.

So tight around the neck. Such a burden to put on. Looks dumb: just like a public display. Sure, it's a pattern of style dating back to the 17th century and was an indication of a membership to some sort of society or organization. By why still today? What's the purpose?
the tie--look at its shape--is a PHALLIC symbol. and thus is worn by thepatrirchal overlord elite in their shitty business dealings which are raping Planet Earth

nuthin WRONGwith phallic symbol. it is when it is used as a power-OVER symbol--as is the ubequitous tie of WESTERN MALE

I think it was originally worn by people living in desert climates to wipe the sweat from their faces. Kind of a funny thing to adopt as formal attire!

I can't substantiate this, it's just something an English teacher I had a few years ago told us.

So tight around the neck. Such a burden to put on. Looks dumb: just like a public display. Sure, it's a pattern of style dating back to the 17th century and was an indication of a membership to some sort of society or organization. By why still today? What's the purpose?

I wear one to be cool. It sounds strange, I know, but in the world of middleschool when you wear something to set yourselfe apart from the croud it makes you THE COOLEST! The odd thing is that my principal tried to make me take the tie off. :bugeye: Said it wasn't in the uniform policy or something stupid like that. But it is okay because I happen to know that he is a closet pedophile. :D

Ties are stupid, useless and serve no practical purpose.
Unfortunately I'll have to wear one for all of my professional life :D
I've found out that a simple, red one on a white shirt looks at least moderately good.

I find that ties look so incredibly sexy, especially when they're casual. But I find it so disheartening that so many guys absolutely abhor wearing ties, is it really that bad?

It's not particulary comfortable, especially in summers.

I find that ties look so incredibly sexy, especially when they're casual. But I find it so disheartening that so many guys absolutely abhor wearing ties, is it really that bad?

Yes, as we prefer not to wear phallic symbols as that's what all the eyes on our pants is for. ;)

- N

Phallic symbol??? OH MY GOD! From now on I'm wearing a BIG one!

Lol, I remember back in high school when you'd have to dress up for matches for various school sports, one of my water polo friends came to school wearing a penis tie. It was hilarious.

- N

At my high school all the baskletball players have to wear ties on game days. The game got canceled today for some reason or other around halfway through the day. Almost immeadiatly after the annoucment all the players in the room (like 3...) took of their ties without even thinking about it. Kinda funny it would happen today...and then I read this thread...*waves arms in creeepy voodoo way*

....lol at the penis tie.

I find that ties look so incredibly sexy, especially when they're casual. But I find it so disheartening that so many guys absolutely abhor wearing ties, is it really that bad?

I dislike ties for a few reasons. One, first thing in the morning, I don't really appreciate the feeling of something constricting around my neck. I need to have time to let my breakfast get down before I put one on, or I can feel sick.

Second, I need a big collar size, which is fine, because I have a fairly large chest, but I'm average height, which means I have a lot more shirt around the midriff than I need, unless I buy fitted shirts, even then, they tend to be a bit long. If I can wear a shirt without a tie, I can buy a smaller size, and while it will never close around my neck, bags less elsewhere.

I'm a tecchie, so have to work with racks of computer equipment, sometimes in fairly confined spaces. I've caught my tie in the sliding rails a few times.

I do enjoy wearing a tie under some circumstances though. My DJ (Tuxedo, to my US cousins), and a bow tie. Wearing a bow tie, wing collar, etc, means I'm going to a pretty good party, and the shirts I have for such occasions were quite expensive, and fit well, and the cummerbund helps.

Since you wear a collar, don't any of your student's ever bring in a leash? :p Only joking. I have to wear one too, but not everyday: only with top brass meetings and such. :)

I absolutely love girls who wear ties! :m: They look outstanding!
I've grown up among military personnel, so my childhood and women officers probably has to do something with this preference. :D

I know guys who ownover 300 ties, NO JOKE :o , i myself own (i think) 20
I absolutely love girls who wear ties! :m: They look outstanding!
I've grown up among military personnel, so my childhood and women officers probably has to do something with this preference. :D

Woman in ties lol, that is caled a fetish. you watched to much "Mash" as a kid

I have no idea what "Mash" is. But I've seen many pretty girls in military uniforms.

I have no idea what "Mash" is. But I've seen many pretty girls in military uniforms.

M.A.S.H. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066026/) it was also a long standing TV Sitcom (http://epguides.com/MASH/) way before my time, but i grew up being forced to watch reruns with my grandparents while parent were out to work :(

A century ago girls only wore dresses.

I think girls look their best wearing tight bluejeans and wet t-shirts!

I think you think too much with your dick. :p

At my high school all the baskletball players have to wear ties on game days. The game got canceled today for some reason or other around halfway through the day. Almost immeadiatly after the annoucment all the players in the room (like 3...) took of their ties without even thinking about it.

This reminded me of something I always find funny:

There is a tram stop a few houses down from my school that a lot of us catch, because it goes to the train station, and after school there is normally a teacher there. We have to wear blazers home (except in the summer), and so the second the tram pulls away from the stop everyone takes theirs off. It's pretty funny: you blink and suddenly everyone's in shirts, it happens so fast. And everyone just does it subconciously: the second we're out of sight, off with the blazers :D.

The tie originated in the roman military. It was a red scarf that soldiers wet down so it would cool down their armor on on hot days. over the decades it became a /symbol of power and over the centuries it has evolved.

I think you think too much with your dick. :pI bet you never thought that someone's dick could be so smart! :p

This reminded me of something I always find funny:

There is a tram stop a few houses down from my school that a lot of us catch, because it goes to the train station, and after school there is normally a teacher there. We have to wear blazers home (except in the summer), and so the second the tram pulls away from the stop everyone takes theirs off. It's pretty funny: you blink and suddenly everyone's in shirts, it happens so fast. And everyone just does it subconciously: the second we're out of sight, off with the blazers :D.Where is this? Ausie or Britain?

[QUOTE=TWScott]The tie originated in the roman military. It was a red scarf that soldiers wet down so it would cool down their armor on on hot days. over the decades it became a /symbol of power and over the centuries it has evolved.[QUOTE]Are you serious? Look how large it would have to be to cool down roman armor: the size of a towel. Where did you hear this?

Aussie, Valich. I go to a private school.

All clothing fashion consists of vestiges of things from distant eras that may have had a practical or ceremonial purpose. Look at the buttons on the cuffs of a sport coat. Men's coats were once tighter and you had to unbutton the cuffs to get them off. In Argentina a couple of decades ago it was fashionable for tailors to make coats with one button on one cuff actually operational, and the men left them unbuttoned as a sign that they were prosperous enough to afford tailor-made clothes. Epaulets on jacket shoulders are there to hold musket (I think) straps.

It's like the little chrome disks on the fenders of Buick cars (one of General Motors' largest and most expensive models, for you foreigners) in the 1940s and 1950s. Once upon a time those were air ducts into the engine compartment to cool those big throbbing motors. As engine cooling technology improved they were no longer necessary but they remained for fashion. Those f-shaped chrome strips behind the side windows on hardtop convertibles are the handles that footmen used to hang onto while riding on the running boards of horse-drawn coaches.

For that matter, the whole idea of a "hardtop convertible" is a rather stupid oxymoron. They have all the inconvenience of a convertible like small windows and less durable cloth roofs, but they don't open up in nice weather! It's fashion: it makes you look like you're driving a convertible.

Fashion equals functionality minus relevance.

The tie originated in the roman military. It was a red scarf that soldiers wet down so it would cool down their armor on on hot days. over the decades it became a /symbol of power and over the centuries it has evolved.

Are you serious? Look how large it would have to be to cool down roman armor: the size of a towel. Where did you hear this?

Actually the originals were like a modern hand towel except twice as long. And I did not hear it i have read it in many papers about the time period in question.

Sounds like a reasonable origin to me?