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mountainhare
11-02-05, 09:48 PM
I can understand why Hitler hated the Jews and Communists... after all, who didn't back then?

But what exactly did he have against the Slavs? Was it because they managed to break away from the First German Reich? Was it because they managed to grab a lot of land off Germany when Germany was defeated in the few wars it lost?

comisaru
11-03-05, 12:44 AM
Just because the slavs there were his neighbours.

spuriousmonkey
11-03-05, 10:36 AM
Because they weren't a superior race.

mathman
11-03-05, 03:32 PM
Hitler wanted more land for ethnic Germans. His racist ideas had his western neighbors in the same category as Germans, while the Slavs were not. Moreover after WW I Germany ceded a large chunk of land to Poland.

ghost7584
11-03-05, 06:36 PM
I can understand why Hitler hated the Jews and Communists... after all, who didn't back then?

But what exactly did he have against the Slavs? Was it because they managed to break away from the First German Reich? Was it because they managed to grab a lot of land off Germany when Germany was defeated in the few wars it lost?

The real truth behind the holocaust has been covered up by the vatican since the Russians started beating Hitler in 1942. The holocaust was really a Roman catholic inquisition against other religions. [Jews of the Jewish faith were persecuted; catholic Jews were not.] The Slavs were of the Greek Orthodox faith, and it was convert to catholicism or die for them.
The Holocaust was a 20 th century inquisition done under cover of the Nazi party. Hitler was catholic; the catholic vote swept him into power when the pope said he was backing Hitler, 1933. Vatican money paid for Hitler's war machine; Germany was in a depression, like the rest of the world.
Read the online book, THE VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST at this website:
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html#Contents

http://www.reformation.org/archive.html

Excerpts from book:
Book: THE VATICAN’S HOLOCAUST by Avro Manhattan
This type of execution was not exceptional. Some Ustashi specialized in dispatching their
Orthodox prisoners in this manner.

Catholic priests, friars, and, indeed, even some of their pupils, followed their example. The
case of Peter Brzica is undoubtedly one of the most incredible in this category. Brzica was
a law student and an ardent member of the foremast Catholic organization called the
Catholic Crusaders. During the day and night of 29th August 1942, Brzica cut the throats of
1300 prisoners in the Concentration Camp of Jasenovac. He was rewarded with a gold
watch and proclaimed King of Cutthroats. Dr. Nikola Kilolic, a Croat and a Catholic, was
an eyewitness to the deed.

To terrorize the population into becoming Catholic, the Ustashi very often hanged lay
Orthodox Leaders and their Orthodox parish priests during mass executions under the very
eyes of the faithful. This was one of the most tangible methods of "persuasion" whenever
the Orthodox proved obdurate.

During our journey towards the hill of Javor, near Srebrenica and Ozren, all the Serbian
villages which we came across were wholly deserted. But inside the houses very often we find
whole families massacred. We even came across some barrels filled with blood. In the villages
between Vlasenica and Kladanj we discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes,
their small members still distorted by pain, resembling insects stuck upon pins." [6]

Many Catholic lay members and clergy, mostly Croats, helped the Nazis and fought against
their own Government. This they did in order to set up an independent Catholic State of
Croatia once Yugoslav unity had disintegrated. As a reward for their treachery, Hitler
granted the Catholic Croats autonomy under Nazi tutelage. While the rest of Yugoslavia
was turned into Nazi-occupied territory, Croatia became an independent Catholic State,
where the Ustashi leader, Ante Pavelic, assisted by Archbishop Stepinac and blessed by
Pope Pius Xll, initiated the terrible reign of Ustashi terror.

Fraggle Rocker
11-04-05, 10:39 PM
Ethnic rivalries in Europe go back just as far and are just as stupid as the ones in the Mideast and everywhere else.

The Neolithic Slavic tribes moving in from the east and the Neolithic Germanic tribes moving down out of Scandinavia ran head-on into each other during the early Roman era where their migratory paths met.

First they killed off, drove off, or enslaved the Celtic people who were already living there. Then they turned on each other.

This bad blood has never cooled down. There has always been strong enmity between the Slavs and the Germans. When the armies of the Soviet Bloc nations invaded Czechoslovakia to put down "Prague Spring" in 1968, the Czechs were really pissed off, but things eventually settled down to normal. Except for one thing. Years later, after relations had thawed with the Poles, Russians, and Hungarians who had occupied their land, the Czechs still said, "The worst thing about that was that there were once again GERMAN TANKS on Czech soil." And the Soviets had made sure that the East German army kept a very low profile, way back in the woods rather than driving into the towns.

I don't mean to slight the Slovaks, I just don't happen to have any Slovak friends to check in with.

It's no different than the centuries-old rivalry between the Germans and the French. The Franks were a Germanic people, for the goddess's sake, one big happy family. But the Romans conquered the Franks, molded them into a union with the Celtic Gauls in the south, taught them all to speak Latin, and made Gallia a province of the Roman Empire. The "real" German tribes never surrendered to the Romans and kept their language and culture. They regarded their Frankish cousins as big sissies for being conquered, while the Franks regarded them as barbarians for not adopting the comforts of a civilized life.

That feeling, too, still survives today.

mountainhare
11-05-05, 04:31 AM
Fraggle Rocker,

That's an excellent explaination, however, I'm just wondering about one technicality...



But the Romans conquered the Franks

But they weren't Franks when they were conquered, were they? I thought the Franks were a product of the conquered Germanic tribes breeding with the Celts?

kenworth
11-05-05, 05:09 AM
The real truth behind the holocaust has been covered up by the vatican since the Russians started beating Hitler in 1942. The holocaust was really a Roman catholic inquisition against other religions. [Jews of the Jewish faith were persecuted; catholic Jews were not.] .


that is simply not true,the saint of my birthday was a catholic who was killed in the gas chambers

dixonmassey
11-05-05, 06:50 AM
There was no GM food at that time. Hunger of WWI and postwar years has been deeply engrained into Hitler's brain. He has concluded that Germany cannot support its population with available resources neither during "strained" peace nor during war times. Thus, Germany was de facto on mercy of other countries. Thus, Germany needs additional space. Hitler was definitely thinking in terms of 19th century real politics. Psychologically, it's hard to cleanse the land of the beings you consider equal. It's much easier to dehumanize and then kill. The other lesson Hitler drew from WWI is the power of propaganda. He was impressed with Anglo-American propaganda machine and thought that it's tilted the luck towards Antente more than anything else. Thus, the mass dehumanization propaganda campaign began.

I would assume there was some (fairly small) degree of animocity between Polish and Germans before WWII. Nothing extraordinary. There were little reasons for hatred (genuine one, coming from historical memories not from state propaganda) between Russians, Ukrainians, ... and Germans. There was certain sense that Germans and Russians are mentally quite different. That's it. All the hatred was state sponsored (on the German side).

Funny thing. As different as Brits, Germans and Russians are, in the USA, they (Germans, Brits) will frequently say me things, jokes, etc. they will never consider telling to Americans. They also consider Americans (average ones) overly unsincere (fake), snitching and backstabbing. I would never thought before that Germans are closer to me mentally than Americans :) But in that regard they are.

Brian Foley
11-05-05, 01:22 PM
I can understand why Hitler hated the Jews and Communists... after all, who didn't back then?

But what exactly did he have against the Slavs? Was it because they managed to break away from the First German Reich? Was it because they managed to grab a lot of land off Germany when Germany was defeated in the few wars it lost?
Germany intended to turn East Europe into its colonial domain to be exploited by German Industrialists and financiers . When nations subjugate and occupy other nations and regions for exploitation they always play the race card to dehumanize the local population . The British and French did this with Africa saying Blacks were inferior and the Spanish did the same with the Indians of South America under the conquistadors . By convincing the German people that the Slavs were sub-human the German people believed they were on a divine mission to subdue and civilize the Slavs . This facillitated the massacres which are a necessary component of colonization .

Redline
11-05-05, 01:41 PM
word
As Nazis said , Slavs were same crap as Jews, Gipsys,...

candy
11-05-05, 07:54 PM
Hitler seems to have hated anybody who did not conform to his concept of how the world should be and totally agree with his point of view.

dixonmassey
11-05-05, 09:03 PM
Hitler seems to have hated anybody who did not conform to his concept of how the world should be and totally agree with his point of view.
Nope, Hitler liked British a lot and he was totally neutral toward (and totally ignorant of) Americans/USA

kenworth
11-05-05, 10:23 PM
Nope, Hitler liked British a lot and he was totally neutral toward (and totally ignorant of) Americans/USA


i think if you read his plans for occupied england you might not be so sure of that.

Hapsburg
11-05-05, 10:31 PM
Nope, Hitler liked British a lot and he was totally neutral toward (and totally ignorant of) Americans/USA
That's because the British (at least to him) were germanic, decended from Normans (vikings) and the Angles & Saxons (germans). He liked them because they did constitute what he believe to be his ideal human. The Americans had been mixed around with various minorities, leading hitler to think that the american/white racial pool had been 'polluted' with black, asian, native indian, jewish, and hispanic blood.
Obviously, hitler had a very, very, skewed view of reality.

Xylene
11-05-05, 10:53 PM
I understand that Hitler (if he had conquered Britain) wanted the British Empire to continue in operation, but with German overlords in control. I can just imagine how well that would have worked.

kenworth
11-05-05, 10:56 PM
I understand that Hitler (if he had conquered Britain) wanted the British Empire to continue in operation, but with German overlords in control. I can just imagine how well that would have worked.


i heard a different plan,the same that he had for most countries eventually which was.males 16-65 sent to germany to work and british women were to be impregnated by his ss.

mountainhare
11-06-05, 04:21 AM
kenworth:


i heard a different plan,the same that he had for most countries eventually which was.males 16-65 sent to germany to work and british women were to be impregnated by his ss.

Where did you hear that BS from?

You are also aware that if the above is true, then Hitler considered the British equals of Germans. Otherwise, why would he want his 'pure' SS soldiers breeding with an 'impure' race?

kenworth
11-06-05, 05:09 AM
kenworth:

Where did you hear that BS from?

You are also aware that if the above is true, then Hitler considered the British equals of Germans. Otherwise, why would he want his 'pure' SS soldiers breeding with an 'impure' race?


british intelligence reports.he would want his ss breeding with them so eventually they would have mostly german blood whilst still maintaining a workforce.

Kiwi123
11-06-05, 03:05 PM
kenworth:

Where did you hear that BS from?


I advice you don't say it to a Polish person.
'nuff said.

BTW
I am of Serbian background, and we were persecuted by Hitler (and by Bosnian Muslims (http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/hanjar.html)) too.

Here's more:

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/graphics/022_08.gif
Islam Under the Swastika (http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/022.shtml)
Serbs also vouch: Never Again (http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/mediji/mediji-never_again-160395-houston_chronicle-1.html)

Kiwi123
11-06-05, 03:09 PM
I can understand why Hitler hated the Jews and Communists... after all, who didn't back then?

But what exactly did he have against the Slavs? Was it because they managed to break away from the First German Reich? Was it because they managed to grab a lot of land off Germany when Germany was defeated in the few wars it lost?
How did you mix these 2 up?
Jews was one thing and communists were because of politics.
Gee thanks for reaching an "understanding" why they hated quite an "accomplishment", pat yourself on your back..
(Well of course the long history of persecution and blind hate tradition had to do with the Holocaust, so now it was 'race', before it was forced conversion in Spain etc.)

BTW
I am of Serbian background, and we were persecuted by Hitler (& by Bosnian Muslims (http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/hanjar.html) ) too.

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/ww2/photo/mufti.jpg
above is the Arab Muslim (before being called 'palestinian') Leader the Mufti with Hitler's Bosnian-Muslim troops, that Mufti led the first Arab massacre on the native Jews in 1929 Hebron, before that "occupation" excuse was invented, so did he incite the massacre of the Jews in Baghdad Iraq in 1941)

Here's more:

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/graphics/022_08.gif
Islam Under the Swastika (http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/022.shtml)


Serbs also vouch: Never Again (http://www.balkan-archive.org.yu/kosta/mediji/mediji-never_again-160395-houston_chronicle-1.html)

Kiwi123
11-06-05, 03:16 PM
Germany intended to turn East Europe into its colonial domain .
"colonial", this soft word, that's unfair to history.

ghost7584
11-06-05, 06:07 PM
that is simply not true,the saint of my birthday was a catholic who was killed in the gas chambers

That simply is true. In every catholic inquisition, through out history, rebellious catholics that refuse to obey the pope are also killed.
There were rebellious catholics in Germany that refuse to go along with the Nazis. They were sent to the gas chamber.
One of the contigency plans of the Jesuits, if Hitler lost the war, is listed below:
2. Make sure that rebellious nuns, monks, and priests were also put
into the concentration camps to try to convince the world that the
catholic church was also persecuted.
Your can read the other contingency plans, if Hitler lost the war, in the article that follows.

Here is some more details about what went on in the 1930s and 40s, with references at the bottom.

[The Jesuits are masters
of deceit. They took 1000 Roman catholic Jews and hid them at the
Vatican for the duration of the war. This was just in case Hitler lost
the war. If Hitler lost the war, the Vatican could say they also
helped the Jews. But these were catholic Jews. It was the non catholic
Jews that the Gestapo wanted to kill.] The vatican always covers
itself in case its plans backfire.
While Hitler was building his war machine, in the 1930s, the Jesuits
were busy establishing 5th columns in the countries scheduled for the
Nazi invasions. A 5th column is a secret army within a country that is
ready to surrender and help an invading country to capture its own
nation. The organization called catholic action, in these countries,
was the 5th column. Jesuit priests, Picard, Arendt, and Foucalt
preached a Hitlerite, fascist Gospel, calling it a spiritual renewal
in Belgium. In the United States, the Jesuit father Coughlin (the
apostle of the swastika) reached over 20 million listeners by radio,
saying that the German war is a battle for Christianity. He also
headed secret commando cells that were trained by Nazi agents, from
1936 - 1942 in the United States.
Hitler started his fast attacks in Europe and World War 2 started.
Germany, Italy and Japan fought the rest of the world and millions
died. One of Hitler's greatest sources of intelligence information
came through the Roman catholic confessionals all over the world.
Hitler's secret servic, the Gestapo, was built up after the principles
of the Jesuit Order, by Heindrich Hemler. Many catholic priests wore
the uniform of Hitler's Gestapo. The Jesuit father Himmler, Heindrich
Himmler's uncle, was one of the superior officers of the Gestapo. It
was mainly through the Gestapo that six and a half million Jews
suffered torture and death; the 20th century catholic inquisition was
in full swing. Bible believing protestants that tried to help the Jews
also went into the concentration camps. In Yugoslavia, the Greek
orthodox church, the Serbians, were terribly tortured and murdered by
the Ustachi killer squads, catholic groups that were led by Jesuits.
Many catholic priests were members of the Ustachi killer squads. The
Jesuit monseigneur Tiso, in Slovakia, chief of the Slovakian state,
provided the first contingent of Jews, from Slovakia, to be murdered
at Auschwitz. Monseigneur Tiso was hanged as a war criminal after the
war was over. You can read about the Ustachi killer squads and see
actual photographs of them in action at this website: Read THE
VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST, online, here:
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html#Contents
Pope Pius XII, after building the Nazi war machine, saw Hitler losing
his battle against Russia, and he immediately jumped to the allies
side as he saw that Hitler was going to lose the war. Then the Vatican
began to use the organizations under its control to cover up the
Vatican's involvement with starting World War 2 and its involvement in
the holocaust. Germany surrendered May 8th 1945 and Europe was in
ruins. The Vatican had these contigency plans in case Hitler lost the
war:
1. Make everyone believe that the Vatican had nothing to do with the
war and, in time, try to convince people that the holocaust never
happened.
2. Make sure that rebellious nuns, monks, and priests were also put
into the concentration camps to try to convince the world that the
catholic church was also persecuted.
3. They ordered catholic families and priests to protect Jews in their
homes so this could be used in the future as good public relations
material for books and films. Those Jews that were protected had
already been converted to catholicism.
4. Put on a new face by setting up the Vatican II council.
5. Set up a communist pope from behind the Iron Curtain to please the
communists and try to convert them to catholicism. This was Pope John
23rd.

Read what the press of the Catholic, Spanish dictator, Franco,
published on the 3rd of May, 1945, the day of Hitler's death. It said,
"Adolf Hitler, son of the Catholic Church, died while defending
Christianity." It is therefore understandable that words cannot be
found to lament over his death, when so many were found to exalt his
life. It goes on to say, "Over his mortal remains stands his
victorious moral figure. With the palm of the martyr, God gives Hitler
the laurels of Victory." This funeral oration of Adolph Hitler was
voiced by the Holy See itself, under the cover of Franco's press. It
is a communique of the Vatican via Madrid.
Hitler himself stated, "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits.
Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth,
than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic church. I
transferred much of this organization into my own party."
Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage made this
statement: "The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler
according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and
the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the
model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief
of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the
whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's
hierarchical order."
Hitler was also ready to discuss with the Bishop his views on the
Jewish question: Adoph Hitler said, "As for the Jews, I am just
carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted
for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous
and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were
like. I don't put race above religion, but I do see the danger in the
representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am
doing Christianity a great service."
"The Nazi Persecution of the Churches" by J S Conway pages 25 ,26 ,
and 162



References:
The Secret History of the Jesuits, by catholic French historian Edmond
Paris.
The Vatican's Holocaust, by Avro Manhattan
The Godfathers, by Jack T Chick found at this website:
http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?PG=09
Smokescreens, by Jack Chick, found at this website:
http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_03.asp
Information provided by former high ranking Jesuit priest, Alberto
Rivera, that was taught to him by his instructor at the Vatican, whose
name was Augustine Cardinal Bea.




The information was provided by Alberto Rivera, former high ranking
Jesuit priest, that later became a baptist preacher. He was taught
this information while a Jesuit priest at the Vatican by his
instructor, Augustine Cardinal Bea.
You can read about this at this website:
http://www.chick.com/reading/comics/0114/0114_fourpages.asp?PG=09
The news media and the movie industry are mostly controlled by the
catholic church, so they will never report on this type of
information. Also, only high ranking members of the catholic clergy
that are involved in undercover work are going to be told this kind of
secret information.
There is a whole book that you can read online that proves that
Alberto Rivera was really a Jesuit priest. It is titled, IS ALBERTO
FOR REAL; you can read it at this website:
http://www.chick.com/reading/books/199/0199cont.asp
At this website, you can see the picture I. D. card of Alberto Rivera
that he had as a Jesuit priest.
http://www.chick.com/reading/books/199/0199_01a.asp
Don't think that this ID is a fake computer generated image. This same
ID and photo is behind the front cover of the Alberto series magazines
and they were published long before people had home computers and
before the internet got started. The ID is for real.

Von Chav
11-25-05, 11:25 AM
I can understand why Hitler hated the Jews and Communists... after all, who didn't back then?

You hate Jews now. Note - look at all your posts and threads - most of them are all targeted at "Zionists." You taint too many people with a thin brush; even claiming people who admitt the Holocaust to be "Zionists"!!
Hitler seems to be quite the role model for you! is that why you want to find out why he hated Slavs, so you can hate them for the same reason?

mountainhare
11-25-05, 08:04 PM
You hate Jews now.

Do I? Or is this yet another attempt at a defamatory comment on your behalf?



Note - look at all your posts and threads - most of them are all targeted at "Zionists

Another lie. Anyone who has known me since I started posting here knows that only a minority of my posts address Zionists.




even claiming people who admitt the Holocaust to be "Zionists"!!

Another lie. I actually claimed that Zionists take advantage of the Holocaust to justify their annexing of land, and free handouts from the West.



Hitler seems to be quite the role model for you! is that why you want to find out why he hated Slavs, so you can hate them for the same reason?

I'm part Slav. Oops, I think your nasty little insult has sort of collapsed, huh? Why would a Slav want to hate Slavs? DUMBASS.

Von Chav
11-26-05, 07:52 AM
Do I? Or is this yet another attempt at a defamatory comment on your behalf?


Another lie. Anyone who has known me since I started posting here knows that only a minority of my posts address Zionists.


Another lie. I actually claimed that Zionists take advantage of the Holocaust to justify their annexing of land, and free handouts from the West.


I'm part Slav. Oops, I think your nasty little insult has sort of collapsed, huh? Why would a Slav want to hate Slavs? DUMBASS.

No Mountainhare, it's not a 'deflamatory' comment, it's the truth. Agreed; your posts concerning 'Zionists' are a minority, but they're there, and they all stink of the name anti-semitic "BS" none the less. Such talk such as this, either on Zionists//Jews//The Holocaust always seems to strike a nerve with you Mountainhare. Why?

I'll admitt your're right to say that the Holocaust is taken advantage of by Zionists; but I would'nt go too far with that, or you'll reveal too much of your own fascist opinions.

Somehow I doubt you're part Slav. If you are a Slav you would have pointed it out in your original post. You're just trying to make a 'deflamatory' statement at my expense, as opposed to me doing it to you. Besides, looking at the tone of your posts, such a remark was more than justified. And you call me a hypocrite? Again, you're insulting me because you can't prove a point. How low can you go?

ursula
11-26-05, 09:59 AM
and the nazis stole blond polish children and tried to raise them as germans
ursula

Hapsburg
11-26-05, 12:45 PM
Mountainhare, your whole "I'm a slav, so I don't hate other slavs" arguement call fall apart so easily, by examing your 'role model', adolf hitler. Hitler was 1/4 jewish, but hated jews. You are as illogical and insane as he is.

Ritri5432
11-26-05, 07:23 PM
"colonial", this soft word, that's unfair to history.

I though also it was actually funny by him defining it as such.

Ritri5432
11-26-05, 07:24 PM
No Mountainhare, it's not a 'deflamatory' comment, it's the truth. Agreed; your posts concerning 'Zionists' are a minority, but they're there, and they all stink of the name anti-semitic "BS" none the less. Such talk such as this, either on Zionists//Jews//The Holocaust always seems to strike a nerve with you Mountainhare. Why?

?

I think one could already draw the conclusion!
Now you can understand when such a poster posts anything on the middle east, what weight he has.

mountainhare
11-26-05, 09:11 PM
Von Chav:


No Mountainhare, it's not a 'deflamatory' comment, it's the truth.

No, it's you making up more bullshit.



Agreed; your posts concerning 'Zionists' are a minority,

mountain hare = 1
Von Chav = 0



but they're there, and they all stink of the name anti-semitic "BS" none the less.

Where have I made anti-semitic comments?




Such talk such as this, either on Zionists//Jews//The Holocaust always seems to strike a nerve with you Mountainhare. Why?


I don't like land theft. I don't like exclusionary behaviour. I don't enjoy watching history mutilated. I despite howother ethnic groups and nationalities who have suffered terribly during WWII, and afterwards, are always given a mere footnote by the media.



I'll admitt your're right to say that the Holocaust is taken advantage of by Zionists;
mountain hare = 2
Von Chav = 0

Can't you see why it is upsetting when some members of an ethnic group/religion try to curry public sympathy by using such events as the 'Holocaust', in an attempt to steal land?

We were oppressed, hence we have a licence to steal.



Somehow I doubt you're part Slav.

My mother is Polish.


If you are a Slav you would have pointed it out in your original post.

Interesting conjecture. How many posters here tout their bloodlines in every thread?


And you call me a hypocrite? Again, you're insulting me because you can't prove a point. How low can you go?

LOL, you're angry at being called a hypocrite, and then make a hypocritical statement directly afterwards.

Mountain hare = 3
Von Chav = 0

Mountain hare wins game, set, match!

Hapsburg:


Hitler was 1/4 jewish, but hated jews. You are as illogical and insane as he is.

A common myth. Even Holocaust parrots admit that 'Hitler's grandmother/grandfather was a Jew' is BS. This is from a site which you will feel comfortable with...

http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/hitler-jewish.shtml



Hitler's grandmother was not Jewish.

There are some rumors hinting that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Few, if any, of the reputable historians on the Holocaust believe that this is so. It is more likely that Hitler tried to keep the murky history of his family quite secret because there was a high incidence of insanity and feeble-mindedness in his ancestors.

Brian Foley
11-27-05, 12:30 AM
Hitler was 1/4 jewish, but hated jews.

Based on what evidence . Here is what the Jews themselves say .

Was Hitler Jewish? (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitlerjew.html)
One of the most frequently asked questions we receive is whether Adolf Hitler was Jewish or had ancestors who were. The idea seems to arise from the remote possibility that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Hitler's father, Alois, was registered as an illegitimate child with no father. Alois' mother worked in the home of a wealthy Jew and there is some chance a son in that household got the woman (i.e., Hitler's grandmother) pregnant. Adolf Hitler was not Jewish.

The Jewish Virtual Library

You are as illogical and insane as he is.
This from you .........

Von Chav
11-27-05, 04:19 AM
Von Chav:


[QUOTE]No, it's you making up more bullshit.
mountain hare = 1
Von Chav = 0

Wow! I scoring system! Tell me how does it work? I have'nt even made any bullshit up.


Where have I made anti-semitic comments?

One need only look at other threads e.g. the David Irving one I started. You support a man who is in denial of the Holocaust, then brand me a Zionist, and claim I kiss Jew ass for making a post.


I don't like land theft. I don't like exclusionary behaviour. I don't enjoy watching history mutilated. I despite howother ethnic groups and nationalities who have suffered terribly during WWII, and afterwards, are always given a mere footnote by the media.

This is where you sound more and more like a Nazi...your mask is beginning to slip. Like I said, you give too much away sometimes, and let things get alittle too personal.


mountain hare = 2
Von Chav = 0

Oh the scoring system again!! How sad.


[QUOTE]Can't you see why it is upsetting when some members of an ethnic group/religion try to curry public sympathy by using such events as the 'Holocaust', in an attempt to steal land?
We were oppressed, hence we have a licence to steal.

I've never attempted to initiate public sympathy by mentioning the Holocaust! Like I said I agreed with your claims of Zionists using the Holocaust as an excuse for land grabbing, but this is rare - the Holocaust cannot be exaggerated! And besides thats fucking dangerous territory to tread on. Your mascara's running...


My mother is Polish.

Interesting conjecture. How many posters here tout their bloodlines in every thread?

My point was you should have included this fact originally at the start of the thread, then I would'nt have to speculate as to why you needed to find out why Hitler hated the Slavs. Maybe you are Slav? Maybe not? It's just you'd add more credibility and believability to the thread if you mentioned it originally.


LOL, you're angry at being called a hypocrite, and then make a hypocritical statement directly afterwards.

Mountain hare = 3
Von Chav = 0

That was a joke, or a 'deflamaory' statement as you'd call it...where's your sense of humour? It's better to humour you than insult you Mountainhare.


Mountain hare wins game, set, match!

Oh! The scoring system again?! Lame... :o

candy
11-27-05, 09:32 AM
Hitler hated anything that was not part of his plan for his 1000 year reich. Strange as it may seem Hitler supported sending European Jews to Palestine. He did apprrove of the Zionist movement but since he could not transport the Jews out of the lands he controlled when the logistics of the war could not support the total population he killed off those he deemed less desirable.

The Zionist movement did use the horror of the mass murder to create the state of Israel and still generations later raises the issue when their actions are questioned. The Holocaust has nothing to do with the issue of Israeli assination squads or protecting terrorists behind bombing in other countries. The Holcaust has nothing to do with the right of the Palestinian people to life, liberty, and self-determination.

Ethnicity has very little to do with truth. Truth either is or is not to be found in a statement and has little to do with the motives of the speaker; thus a liar can speak the truth as easily as the usually truthful may occassionally descend to the abyss.

android
11-27-05, 07:38 PM
Hitler did not want any admixture with Germans. Slavs, as partially Mongolized slave populations of Europe, clearly were not good mixing partners. A little eugenics would be good for all white people, since there seem to be absolute busloads of stupid ones!

Hapsburg
11-27-05, 08:04 PM
Based on what evidence
History Channel. They say that his paternal grandfather was jewish in one of thier TV specials.

android
11-27-05, 11:05 PM
Hitler was 1/4 jewish, but hated jews.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_325b.html

And from the horse's mouth, so to speak:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/hitlerjew.html

Lada
11-28-05, 05:21 AM
Germans are historically frustrated people whose "dreams of any Great Germany" were always destroyed by Slavs.

I don't blame them for their lack of sympathy towards us, after their so hoped and so many times failed "Drang Nach Osten"...

Yet, I am always amused by all kinds of german theories about Slavs, most of those trying to keep a low-esteem thoughts about us among german populations...

Get over it once for all and get a life, people ;)

(my reply goes only to the german slavophobics, of course...)

hispanic_european
02-09-06, 10:32 PM
everyone here is ignorant and this is why Im a pole and I dont like slavs do I hate my own people... NO because poles arent SLAVS yes there language is assimilated and taken alot from slavic but does not hungarian and romanian aswell but POLES are not SLAVS! Slavs Did inhabidate in poland at sometime but the poles that we are now aren't slavs!

Hapsburg
02-10-06, 03:43 PM
Then what are they, then?
From what I hear, Poles are considered a slavic peoples. They speak a slavic language, and thier ancestors are slavic (balts, rus', germans etc. settling in that region).

draqon
02-10-06, 04:30 PM
everyone here is ignorant and this is why Im a pole and I dont like slavs do I hate my own people... NO because poles arent SLAVS yes there language is assimilated and taken alot from slavic but does not hungarian and romanian aswell but POLES are not SLAVS! Slavs Did inhabidate in poland at sometime but the poles that we are now aren't slavs!

He was just brainwashed that slavs are russians, and russians were enemies of polish people for a long time, there were series of wars, plus the occupation...so thus the hatred of slavs...but you cant decide what to erase in the history...slavic people are germans, polish, estonians, ukranians, rus, and etc... Its easy to hate, its harder to accept and comply.

billy123
02-17-06, 07:26 AM
"I am of Serbian background, and we were persecuted by Hitler (& by Bosnian Muslims ) too."

This remark is bullshit.Fine I agree that Hitler was a horrible person.But you shouldn't talk. What your people (Mr Kiwi) did to Bosnian Muslims is also bad.What the fuck did they do wrong to you.You come and invade their country for some stupid reason like we are trying to save our fellow Serbs from being killed by the Bosnian muslims. What the hell is wrong with you.All the Balkans had their fucken land and a lot of space why the hell did you start taking theirs.You call that fat pig Mislovic a hero.He's more like shit that comes out of my ass.Excuse my language.I am glad he's in Hague,he belongs there with his pets that fag... Karadic and that bitch Mladic...I hope he stays there for life...

:mad:

For once in your life say the truth about what happened....The only reason why you are going through this is because your so called heros put you here.The truth is known only you can't accept that you started this bullshit and you blame us for it.

billy123
02-17-06, 07:29 AM
Before you start judging Hitler for his crime,look at your so called heros (Kiwi) and then talk...

billy123
02-17-06, 07:31 AM
And one more thing:

If 10 serbs were killed is more important than 1.3 million of Bosnian mulism being killed.

Mosheh Thezion
02-18-06, 01:09 AM
he hated slavs, because they were in the way... JUST LIKE jews and russians.

and if they were dead.. their land becomes new fresh land to divide up amoungst his people...

havent you people red hitlers second book??

not mien kamph.. the second book.

its all about race.. and evolution...

if every other race or type of people die.. and are enslaved.. then only the choosen germain race would flourish and form a new world...

a world thinned out of all the other kinds of people.
except for slaves and concubines...

-MT

Hapsburg
02-18-06, 03:14 AM
Yeah...that whole second book thing was a hoax.
And hitler's policies had nothing do with evolution, at least not real evolution. It was racist tripe.

Mosheh Thezion
02-18-06, 04:10 AM
i dont know.. i read mein kamph... and i have read much of the second book.. and i am convinced they are written by the same mind.

but i could be wrong.
-MT

Hapsburg
02-20-06, 12:44 AM
Uh, yeah, it was proven to be a hoax. The guys that perpetrated it fessed up a while ago.

Mosheh Thezion
02-20-06, 02:05 AM
can you provide a link?? to a reputable news source?

hispanic_european
02-23-06, 07:40 PM
No i don't care what Russians did to my country. And yes I do no what poles orginally were Vandals. And where do you get estonians being slavs there Uralic.

Hapsburg
02-23-06, 08:02 PM
can you provide a link?? to a reputable news source?
It was on History a while ago. Watch TV, you'll learn more.

android
02-26-06, 08:56 PM
And where do you get estonians being slavs there Uralic.

Estonians are definitely not Slavic; they're Baltics for the most part. Alfred Rosenberg, the "author of the Holocaust," was Estonian.

:m:

mountainhare
02-27-06, 12:31 AM
dragon:


slavic people are germans, polish, estonians, ukranians, rus, and etc

Germans aren't Slavic... they are Germanic. I don't know who the hell told you that Germans = Slavs.

However, you're right about the others. Although Russians and Ukranians are Eastern Slavs, whereas the Polish are Western Slavs.

The Germanic tribes (and their descendants) have always been at war with the Slavs. It's a pity the Slavs didn't ally together to fight their common enemy, instead of dicking around with each other. Even partial alliances between the Slavs have been extremely effective at fighting the Germanic menace (Battle of Tannenburg, anyone?)

Mosheh:


he hated slavs, because they were in the way... JUST LIKE jews and russians.

*facepalm* Russians ARE Slavs.

Hapsburg
02-27-06, 01:08 AM
No, actually, Germanic tribes were descended from slavic peoples in the baltic and eastern european region, and moved down into central europe, and were called "germanii" by the Romans, which is where we get "Germanic" and "German" and "Germany" from.

mountainhare
02-27-06, 02:47 AM
Hapsburg:


No, actually, Germanic tribes were descended from slavic peoples in the baltic and eastern european region

Source?

Hapsburg
02-27-06, 03:18 AM
Wikipedia map of the pre-roman germanic tribe locations, located in the northeastern and baltic regions (southern scandanavia, saxonia), regions historically also inhabited by slavs. It's no small stretch to assume that they were descended from the same tribes. Another map from the same site (wikipedia) shows that the Goths (visi- and ostro-) originated from what we now call the ukraine and belarus.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Pre-roman_iron_age_%28map%29.PNG

Leidenschaft
07-15-08, 05:28 AM
@Hapsburg: you have it wrong, the Slavs and the Germans (just like the Greeks, Romans, Celts, Illyrians and Indo-Iranians) originated from the Proto-Indo-European tribes who (according to the most popular theory) lived in south Russia about 6000 years ago. Then they started migrating, a group moved to northern Europe, mixed with the local population and became the ancient Germans. It's not sure how the Slavs dwelt. but the homeland of their ethnicity is somewhere in Eastern Europe. The ancient Germans started migrating to the south, east and west, that's how the Goths came to Ukraine. They didn't originate there.

As for the topic question -- Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Slavs were not capable to creating civilization - only copying it from creative peoples like the Germans. He took the Normanist theory -- that the Russian state was founded by the Vikings -- and interpreted it as an explanation for anything good to come out of Russia... It wasn't the Slavic Russians who made it but the racially German ones.
I don't know how about other Slavic countries but Russia was certainly behind in development, so Hitler regarded that as another evidence that the Germans should just invade the Eastern European lands which the Slavs don't diserve and exploit everything for the good of Western civilization.

But this of course could also be just propaganda to get the German people fighting.

Oh and on the Roman inquisition topic -- I'm not sure, the Poles are catholic and Hitler considered them subhuman and killed about 3 million of them.

Fraggle Rocker
07-19-08, 10:54 AM
@Hapsburg: you have it wrong, the Slavs and the Germans (just like the Greeks, Romans, Celts, Illyrians and Indo-Iranians) originated from the Proto-Indo-European tribes who (according to the most popular theory) lived in south Russia about 6000 years ago.It's usually put a little further south than that. Perhaps in what used to be the southern USSR, but not Russia itself.
Then they started migrating, a group moved to northern Europe, mixed with the local population and became the ancient Germans. It's not sure how the Slavs dwelt. but the homeland of their ethnicity is somewhere in Eastern Europe.The original Indo-Europeans split into two groups. What we now call the Western Branch migrated northwest into Europe, becoming (in order of settling) the Celtic, Germanic, Greek and Roman tribes, with the Albanians somewhere toward the end of that period too. It was long assumed that they came up that narrow space between the Black and Caspian Seas, but now people are leaning toward a much more easterly route along the other shore of the Caspian. While the Celts were populating the rest of Europe the Germans staked out Scandinavia and then eventually came down through Jutland. As the Greeks and then the Romans came in from the east and established their homelands, the Celts were eventually driven off the continent to the British Isles, although a handful of them later came back to Brittany when the German tribes even took over Angle Land.

The Eastern Branch split up into the Indo-Iranian and Balto-Slavic peoples (along with a few isolates like the Armenians) and migrated to various parts of Asia. The Slavs probably settled in the Ukraine while the Balts kept going, but during Roman times the Slavic tribes pushed westward into the eastern fringes of Europe, driving out the few remaining Celts such as the Bohumil after whom the Romans named Bohemia (which we now call the Czech Republic because it's easier to spell).
As for the topic question -- Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf that the Slavs were not capable to creating civilization - only copying it from creative peoples like the Germans.Hitler, like most Europeans, took far more credit for the creation of European civilization than our ancestors deserve. Civilization was only invented independently six times during the entire course of history: Mesopotamia, Egypt, China, India, Olmec and Inca. All modern "civilizations" are simply offshoots of those six. Well actually of the three survivors, since the armies of the Abrahamic religionists obliterated three of them (and apparently haven't stopped).

Certainly the Greeks deserve credit for advancing civilization, but it was the framework of the Mesoptamian civilization they started with, as spread by the Phoenicians, Minoans and other civilized people the Greeks traded with when they were still Stone Age barbarians playing with copied, traded and stolen Bronze Age technology.

Ditto for the Roman barbarian tribes. They took the Greek version of Mesopotamian civilization, added to it, and established themselves as the cultural leaders of Europe for centuries after their demise. Today we call the resulting culture "Greco-Roman" civilization, but we're not giving enough credit to the people who made it all possible, ten thousand years ago in Mesopotamia. Germany, Spain, England, Russia, the USA, etc., merely added to it.

"Civilization" literally means "the building of cities," i.e., the transcendence of agriculture-based life in villages, among people who all know each other well. The oldest surviving city is Jericho, in Palestine. Damascus, the capital of Syria, is arguably the oldest continually-inhabited major city. These cities are in the realm of Mesopotamia, where the Babylonians, Sumerians, Akkadians, etc. were spreading civilization at a time when Hitler's (and my) ancestors were nomadic hunter-gatherers just learning about farming and animal husbandry.
He took the Normanist theory -- that the Russian state was founded by the Vikings -- and interpreted it as an explanation for anything good to come out of Russia... It wasn't the Slavic Russians who made it but the racially German ones.There was a little more to it. Because of the route the original Slavic tribes took on their way to their ultimate homeland, they dallied with a lot of other tribes along the way: Uralic, Altaic, Turkic, Finnic and Mongolic tribes. These are not Indo-European peoples, so the Slavs are not of "pure Aryan blood." Hitler took this as his permission to look down on them.
I don't know how about other Slavic countries but Russia was certainly behind in development. . . .The first university in Europe was founded in Praha (Prague, the capital of the Czechs). Nicolaus Coppernic (Copernicus) was Polish.
Oh and on the Roman inquisition topic -- I'm not sure, the Poles are catholic and Hitler considered them subhuman and killed about 3 million of them.There has to be more to that story. Germany had a huge Catholic population that Hitler had to be careful to court. As did Italy, the original Fascist country, and Mussolini similarly stayed on their good side. As their reward, Pope Pius XII did not speak out against the Holocaust. So the armies of the Abrahamic religionists can take credit for the attempted extermination of one of their own sects.

nietzschefan
07-19-08, 11:37 PM
Hitler said "Arm slavs to fight slavs"

NOTHING changes...

John99
07-20-08, 12:18 AM
ghost7584: Heindrich Hemler

Internet propaganda.

John99
07-20-08, 12:21 AM
Just to see where this goes without the added baggage.

1. Selection.

2. Mysticism

Examine the ramifications in relation to this subject.

desi
07-20-08, 08:17 PM
If I'm not mistaken Stalin's armies which eventually overran the Eastern Front were composed largely of Slavs. That being the case, if Hitler hated them he may have had good reason to.

draqon
07-20-08, 08:19 PM
If I'm not mistaken Stalin's armies which eventually overran the Eastern Front were composed largely of Slavs. That being the case, if Hitler hated them he may have had good reason to.

well he got no more hating cause once the Soviet armies launched the rockets on Berlin the roach hid inside the cave and killed himself.

desi
07-24-08, 12:12 PM
well he got no more hating cause once the Soviet armies launched the rockets on Berlin the roach hid inside the cave and killed himself.

Right. Then the Russians raped and pillaged Berlin.

Enmos
07-24-08, 12:21 PM
His racist ideas had his western neighbors in the same category as Germans

Or so he said..

draqon
07-24-08, 12:24 PM
Right. Then the Russians raped and pillaged Berlin.

they should have bombed it to dust for what Nazis did Russia.

Enmos
07-24-08, 12:30 PM
they should have bombed it to dust for what Nazis did Russia.

What about the innocent civilians ? :bugeye:
Besides, they DID bomb it to dust..

pjdude1219
07-24-08, 12:41 PM
they should have bombed it to dust for what Nazis did Russia.

Stalin killed more Russians than hitler did.

draqon
07-24-08, 12:42 PM
What about the innocent civilians ? :bugeye:
Besides, they DID bomb it to dust..

lol...what innocent civilians? the Nazis have killed them long since...

Enmos
07-24-08, 12:44 PM
Of course.. :rolleyes:

Myles
07-24-08, 01:41 PM
lol...what innocent civilians? the Nazis have killed them long since...

Many babies were shown to be have been nazis; they had swastikas on their diapers. Come on, what more proof does anyone want?

Enmos
07-24-08, 02:00 PM
http://www.jvisbeek.dds.nl/artikelen/hitler-baby.jpg

Afrikaans_Paladin
08-21-08, 08:13 PM
The real truth behind the holocaust has been covered up by the vatican since the Russians started beating Hitler in 1942. The holocaust was really a Roman catholic inquisition against other religions. [Jews of the Jewish faith were persecuted; catholic Jews were not.] The Slavs were of the Greek Orthodox faith, and it was convert to catholicism or die for them.
The Holocaust was a 20 th century inquisition done under cover of the Nazi party. Hitler was catholic; the catholic vote swept him into power when the pope said he was backing Hitler, 1933. Vatican money paid for Hitler's war machine; Germany was in a depression, like the rest of the world.
Read the online book, THE VATICAN'S HOLOCAUST at this website:



Excerpts from book:
Book: THE VATICANíS HOLOCAUST by Avro Manhattan
This type of execution was not exceptional. Some Ustashi specialized in dispatching their
Orthodox prisoners in this manner.

Catholic priests, friars, and, indeed, even some of their pupils, followed their example. The
case of Peter Brzica is undoubtedly one of the most incredible in this category. Brzica was
a law student and an ardent member of the foremast Catholic organization called the
Catholic Crusaders. During the day and night of 29th August 1942, Brzica cut the throats of
1300 prisoners in the Concentration Camp of Jasenovac. He was rewarded with a gold
watch and proclaimed King of Cutthroats. Dr. Nikola Kilolic, a Croat and a Catholic, was
an eyewitness to the deed.

To terrorize the population into becoming Catholic, the Ustashi very often hanged lay
Orthodox Leaders and their Orthodox parish priests during mass executions under the very
eyes of the faithful. This was one of the most tangible methods of "persuasion" whenever
the Orthodox proved obdurate.

During our journey towards the hill of Javor, near Srebrenica and Ozren, all the Serbian
villages which we came across were wholly deserted. But inside the houses very often we find
whole families massacred. We even came across some barrels filled with blood. In the villages
between Vlasenica and Kladanj we discovered children who had been impaled upon stakes,
their small members still distorted by pain, resembling insects stuck upon pins." [6]

Many Catholic lay members and clergy, mostly Croats, helped the Nazis and fought against
their own Government. This they did in order to set up an independent Catholic State of
Croatia once Yugoslav unity had disintegrated. As a reward for their treachery, Hitler
granted the Catholic Croats autonomy under Nazi tutelage. While the rest of Yugoslavia
was turned into Nazi-occupied territory, Croatia became an independent Catholic State,
where the Ustashi leader, Ante Pavelic, assisted by Archbishop Stepinac and blessed by
Pope Pius Xll, initiated the terrible reign of Ustashi terror.

I have no idea what site I'm even on but I was searching for an answer myself to why Hitler hated Slavs. I was shocked to see your idiotic propaganda when I came to this site via Google search. I'm not even Catholic but this really made my blood boil. First of all, roughly less than 30% of the Nazis were of Catholic background, let alone Catholic faith. Also, not all Slavs are Orthodox Christians. Most of the Slavs the Nazis killed were Catholics. About 3 million non-Jewish Polish citizens were killed in the holocaust. Guess what buddy, 90% of all Poles are Catholic!

You're a damn joke. You're just as stupid as those conspiracy theorists that think the US government orchestrated 9/11.