Why can't retards distinguish between...

Racism, and the belief that certain cultures are inferior?

Racism implies that one believes that a particular genetic makeup (genes) is inferior.

Belief that certain cultures are inferior pretty much implies that certain MEMES (beliefs/ideas/practices) passed down from parent to child are inferior. Genetic makeup has nothing to do with it.

 

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They're both just as bad, so what's the point of making such a big deal about the differences between ethnocentrism, and racism?

Also, would you not agree that races and cultures often (notable exceptions) go hand in hand?

 

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Racism becomes idiocy when you reach the level that considers the human race as a distinction.

Culture becomes moot when you reach the level that perceives the human race as a spectacle.

 

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THE REAL PROBLEM HERE..... is the protrayal of the arab people generally as coming from the line of abraham.... but the other son... the one that got rejected...
but GOD.. made a great nation of those the jews pushed aside...
and now.... along time later...
the big other brother... feels like kicking the shit out of the jew brother.


that is really the heart of the matter... period.

and it just as difficult to solve...

we... as in the poor masses in the muslim world... need to remember that your own gov't love to fan the fires of hate for everybody else but them.

its easy to hate.... it can even be fun.... hence the problem.

making friends and having peace... and accepting and tolerance is boring.
and they dont want their masses of poor and angry to get bored do they?


i read the koran... and it is clear.... all that logic about killing infidels... and so forth is for as and was motivation for his armies... to kill for allah...
and bring justice to the arabian pennisula... and he did so... by leading an army.

the problem today... is that people think to use the teachings in the second half of the book.... focus on the 2nd half... and in doing so... you are motivated to go to war.

the first half.... is all peace and love....

the first... pacifies the second... or it should... but just like christians.. they used one scripture to contridict another. and so justify the fundamentalist view.
just like christians and jews... hindus... buddhists...

its a world wide problem.

-MT

 

Hurricane:

Not necessarily. For example, numerous Chinese have been assimilated into countries such as America and Australia. Racially they are still Chinese, but culturally they are American/Australian.

And even if culture and race did go 'hand in hand', criticizing culture does not automatically make you a racist. If you are criticizing CULTURE, and not RACE, then how are you a racist? Merely because the people who practice a certain culture happen to be black/yellow/white is incidental. You are critizing memes, not genes.

1. It's a matter of opinion as to whether ethnocentrism is worse than racism.

2. I'm sure that even you would agree that some cultures are inferior to others. What do you think of cultures which encourage cannibalism, human sacrifices, or the poor treatment of women?

3. Even if ethnocentrism and racism are as bad as each other, they are still entirely different concepts. Theft is as bad as fraud, that doesn't mean that we can't distinguish between them.

 

Not sure why this is even an arguing point; yet there is no doubt that some memes are not at all good ones. Human sacrifice, for example, would be a bad meme. Discrimination or supremacism would be another. Predilection to violence is another still.

I fail to see what race has to do with it per se, although race often underscores cultural similarity.

Geoff

 

Cultures are collections of memes. Human sacrifice is bad, but does that imply Aztec art is inferior? I'd be wary of attacking the entire culture.

 

A belief that certain cultures are generally "inferior" to others stems directly from ethnocentrism, which manifests itself in what is commonly called racism. It's all bigotry, factually incorrect, dangerous to society, and hurtful to individuals.

 

Agreed. As I said, "some memes", not "some cultures".

Geoff

 

Remember these are your own sentiments, not those of anyone else here. Ditto for the race delusional who habitually (like trained Pavlovian dog drooling for the dindin bell) cry hate when no hate sentiments whatsoever take place.

 

Those of you speaking out against human sacrifice, were you including the annual sacrifice of 1.2 million persons each year? That's 1,200,000 persons having their lives terminated for the convenience of the rest of us. The needless killing on an annual basis of one million two hundred thousand persons, just so we can eat exotic fruits, or visit a few friends, or go on holiday, or commute to work in private.

The Aztec practice of human sacrifice helped cement the structure of their society. For the Aztecs it was a positive thing. Can you say the same for the almost one and a quarter million people who die in road traffic accidents around the world each year? Can you justify the claim that the meme that permits this carnage is superior to the meme that promoted the Aztec carnage?

Tomorrow: why cannibalism is the ultimate compliment.

 

i admit. i DO believe a certain group-'s beliefs are inferior

these groups stem from patriarchal belief--'patriarchl' as in 'male supremacy'

This belief is divisive, andis the cause of all oppression

 

Like I always say, everyone is racist.

Some people are just more honest than others.

 

Why? This drives a race of people to conquer another race of people and displace and/or destroy them. The "victor" replaces the "vanquished". Survival of the fittest.

The protocol that nature itself runs on.

The way the world is supposed to work.

 

fuck all you honkeys,niggers,kikes,waps,slants,japs,dingos,crackers,porch monkeys,towel heads,and gooks, im antartican.


thats racism for ya.


have a racist day

 

You antarcticans are cold bastards. (And your incontinent, too.)

 

hahaha,thats some funny shit right there

 

I wasn't talking about immigration and assimilation of people into other nations, take that out of the equation and we're back to what I was saying. It's more accurate to exclude migration because the majority of people don't migrate (ie, europe is mostly caucasians, asia is mostly asians, etc. proving there's less emigration). Yes it's generalizing but we're not in a position to list all the exceptions, and if we were to, once again every old world continents are made up of their traditional 'races'.

No it's not a matter of opinion as to which is worse, they're both bad and an example of bigotry so there's no point in giving them individual "rankings" as to how bad they are.

And regarding 2) That's for their culture to decide not yours. You cannot judge their culture because you are judging it from a perspective of your own culture. W.G. Summer described ethnocentrism best when he defined it as a viewpoint of "one's own group being at the center of everything", and one from which all others are judged.

 

The entire concept of "ethnocentrism" is a sign of the decadence of the west. Of course some cultures are worse than others. Nazi-ism, cannabalism, female genetal mutilation. How can you say a culture that encourages these things is not inferior to one that adhors them?

Acknowledging that some cultures, some ideas, are better than others doesn't mean one must reject any ideas from "inferior" cultures out of hand. It simply means having the balls to call a spade a spade. Having the confidence to believe in one's values.

If all cultures are equal, nothing has meaning. Why struggle? Why work? Why fight for your country? We are, after all, all equal. From the rapist, murdering warlord in his African cesspool to the pope. Raping 11 year old girls is just part of their culture and is thought to cure AIDS. We're no better than them, who are we to judge?

Someone with the above attitude will soon descend into a depraved existance driven by nothing but the pursuit of physical pleasure, while his nation goes to shit.

This has nothing to do with race. The West developed the concepts of freedom and democracy. The concepts of human rights, of capitalism. It was these ideas that allowed the West to dominate the world. It is the lack of self confidence induced by egghead leftists in our own greatness that will be our downfall.

I'm a jingoistic, ethnocentric American, and proud of it.