It is often thought that Americans are fat due to the excessive amount of fast food they consume in combination with a lessened exercise regime.

Although these factors may have caused minor increases in obesity levels we suggest an alternative theory that makes more sense; literally.

1. The brain uses 20% of the energy available to the body, although it is only 1/50th of the entire body.

2. Experiments with dogs have shown that you can raise the energy expenditure of these animals by stimulating their mind; by making them think. (ref: personal communication with scientist)

3. Americans not only suffer from a fast food culture; they also suffer from a uncomplicated mind culture. Culture is served in repeatedly limited easily assimilated chunks of low information content.

Taking all these facts together we propose that the American people are fat because they do not think enough.

Primary evidence:
1. Americans are one of the fattest people on earth.

Secondary evidence:
1. MTV'zation of TV culture
2. Dumbing down of college and other educational programs.
3. voting for Bush twice.

References:
- Increase in Obesity in the USA (http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/)
- Child's brain uses more energy than adult's (http://www.pdkintl.org/kappan/kbru9905.htm)

There is also:

1. greater variety of food products: you eat more if there are more colors in M&M's than if there is only one.

Wansink and Barbara E. Kahn, a professor of marketing at the University of Pennsylvania, found that people eat far more jelly beans, or M&Ms, if they are offered in many colors than in just a few. The multiplicity of colors suggests variety, even if they all taste the same, and variety suggests abundance, leading to increased consumption.

2. portion size

Between 1977 and 1996, portion sizes for key food groups grew markedly in the United States, not only at fast-food restaurants but also in homes and at conventional restaurants, a new study shows.

The observation is one more indication of broad changes in the way Americans eat and another reason for the widespread, unhealthy rise in obesity among U.S. children and adults, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill researchers say. It is believed to be the first documentation that at any given meal, on average, the typical American eats more than he or she did only a few decades ago.

3. More liquid meals equals less satiety

RESULTS: Free-feeding energy intake during the solid period was significantly lower than intake prior to this period. Dietary energy compensation was precise (118%). No decrease in free-feeding energy intake occurred during the liquid period. Total daily energy intake increased by an amount equal to the load resulting in dietary compensation of -17%. Consequently, body weight and BMI increased significantly only during the liquid period. Physical activity and hunger were unchanged.

CONCLUSIONS: This study indicates that liquid carbohydrate promotes positive energy balance, whereas a comparable solid carbohydrate elicits precise dietary compensation. Increased consumption of energy-yielding fluids may promote positive energy balance.
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v24/n6/full/0801229a.html

4. most Americans are sedentary
Technology has created many time and labor saving products. Some examples include cars, elevators, computers, dishwashers, and televisions. Cars are used to run short distance errands instead of people walking or riding a bicycle. As a result, these recent lifestyle changes have reduced the overall amount of energy expended in our daily lives. According to the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, in 2000 more than 26% of adults reported no leisure time physical activity.


References and further reading:

Physical Activity and Good Nutrition:Essential Elements to Prevent Chronic Diseases and Obesity (http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/publications/aag/dnpa.htm)

POLICY STATEMENT Prevention of Pediatric Overweight and Obesity (http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;112/2/424)

Weight control information network (http://win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/understanding.htm)

CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/contributing_factors.htm)

Because people can't control themselves when they eat for the most part.

Because people can't control themselves when they eat for the most part.

Yeah, but that's too easy and it doesn't generate enough sensationalism ....so "scientists" are awarded billions in contracts to "discover" why people get fat.

I wonder why no one in Darfur is fat? Could it be that blacks are different to whites?

Baron Max

Because people can't control themselves when they eat for the most part.

Heh! Just keep in mind that the OP is primarily meant as satire rather than a serious presentation.;)

Heh! Just keep in mind that the OP is primarily meant as satire rather than a serious presentation.

Satire is only good satire when it's easily recognized as satire by the general reading public. Otherwise, it's just plain stupid bullshit.

Baron Max

Satire is only good satire when it's easily recognized as satire by the general reading public. Otherwise, it's just plain stupid bullshit.

Baron Max

No, it's satire, the fact that you might not recognise it like most of the general public is why it's so damn gorgeous!

Americans are fat because we have lost our blue collar workers. Americans engage in sedentary jobs found in the service sector. We simply do not get the exercise we used to. In addition, our diets are full of cheap foods doctored with cheap but high calorie flavoring agents, such as fat, sugar, and corn oil. The cheap food is the result of capitalism attempting to make the most profit.

Immigrants who come to the US gain weight in proportion to the time spent here

How do you explain that?

A [new] study concludes that immigrants put on pounds in proportion to the time they've lived in the United States. At the 15-year mark, the average weight of immigrants matches that of the average U.S.-born adult.

This is exacerbated in second and third generations

For the total sample, 26.5% were obese. The rates were as follows: white non-Hispanics, 24.2%; black non-Hispanics, 30.9%; all Hispanics, 30.4%; and all Asian-Americans, 20.6%. Important variations within the Hispanic and Asian-American subpopulations are presented. The Chinese (15.3%) and Filipino (18.5%) samples showed substantially lower obesity than non-Hispanic whites. All groups showed more obesity among males than among females, except for blacks (27.4% for males and 34.0% for females). Asian-American and Hispanic adolescents born in the U.S. are more than twice as likely to be obese as are first generation residents of the 50 states.


Reference:
Obesity among US immigrant subgroups by duration of residence.
JAMA. 2004 Dec 15;292(23):2860-7. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=15598917&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google)

Adolescent obesity increases significantly in second and third generation U.S. immigrants:
the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health
J Nutr. 1998 Apr;128(4):701-6. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9521631&dopt=AbstractPlus)

Immigrants who come to the US gain weight in proportion to the time spent here

How do you explain that?



This is exacerbated in second and third generations




Reference:
Obesity among US immigrant subgroups by duration of residence.
JAMA. 2004 Dec 15;292(23):2860-7. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&uid=15598917&cmd=showdetailview&indexed=google)

Adolescent obesity increases significantly in second and third generation U.S. immigrants:
the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health
J Nutr. 1998 Apr;128(4):701-6. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9521631&dopt=AbstractPlus)

um..because they are living the same lifestyle.

Americans are fat because we have lost our blue collar workers. Americans engage in sedentary jobs found in the service sector. We simply do not get the exercise we used to. In addition, our diets are full of cheap foods doctored with cheap but high calorie flavoring agents, such as fat, sugar, and corn oil. The cheap food is the result of capitalism attempting to make the most profit.

OMG...I actually agree with Why. :)

Using superior intellect (thus staying thin due to elevated levels of brain activity)I've discovered the secret!!!!!!! Healthy weight is achieved by:

(Drum roll)

Eating less. Exercising more.

Wealth.

Immigrants who come to the US gain weight in proportion to the time spent here

How do you explain that?



Per post #2 of this thread, you seem to have it all down.
Why don't YOU explain it to us?

Americans are fat because we have lost our blue collar workers. Americans engage in sedentary jobs found in the service sector. We simply do not get the exercise we used to. In addition, our diets are full of cheap foods doctored with cheap but high calorie flavoring agents, such as fat, sugar, and corn oil. The cheap food is the result of capitalism attempting to make the most profit.
That starts early in life there. Technology is a contributing factor as well. Children spend more time on their ever fattening asses playing video games, texting, yakking on their cell phones(but most women do that anyway as well), or on the internet, instead of outside with their friends riding bikes, or playing touch football.
I spent quite a bit of time playing video games when I was a kid but I also spent a lot of time outdoors playing in the sandbox, playing with my Transformers and G.I. Joes, and riding my bmx and dirt bike.
Technology is also a contributing factor where food is concerned. Americans are more on the go now than they ever have been. Time that is reserved for dinner has been truncated. There is very little time nowadays to devote to cooking meals. On the go means fast food, microwavable dinners(plenty of MSGs in those), candy bars, and the like.

um..because they are living the same lifestyle.

How does that explain this:

[second generation]Asian-American and Hispanic adolescents born in the U.S. are more than twice as likely to be obese as are first generation residents of the 50 states.

all this can and is being remedied such as organic food, healthier choices even at fast-food joints etc as well as diets, health shakes etc are all the outcome of this.

As NF said, wealth has a contributing factor. Poor and working class are far more likely to be obese, as they tend to consume the "cheaper", less healthy fast foods...trying to maximize their food dollar.

As NF said, wealth has a contributing factor. Poor and working class are far more likely to be obese, as they tend to consume the "cheaper", less healthy fast foods...trying to maximize their food dollar.

Thats actually corrected for in epidemiological analyses.

As NF said, wealth has a contributing factor. Poor and working class are far more likely to be obese, as they tend to consume the "cheaper", less healthy fast foods...trying to maximize their food dollar.

I'm sorry but the so called poor are able to eat even more than other americans. They really can eat almost as much as they want, unless they are in a "working poor" situation.

By global standards the north american "poor" are wealthy.

How does that explain this:

I don't know about this study because not a SINGLE one of my second, third generation friends are overweight, they are thin. LOL.

If it is true, then it must be lifestyle such as playing too many video games and less physical activity. Also, american food might really do a number on them because of their genetics. Who knows.

Thats actually corrected for in epidemiological analyses.

I'm sorry sam, I don't understand. Could you please explain what you meant using smaller words. Them "5 dollar" words confuse me. :)

thanks

I'm sorry sam, I don't understand. Could you please explain what you meant using smaller words. Them "5 dollar" words confuse me. :)

thanks

You cannot compare two people with different economic and social conditions. So when analysing the data, you adjust it, to eliminate the effects of such differences.

Thanks for the clarification. :)

Actually, i don't think it's about exercise as much as it is healthy food choices. The more fattening foods you eat, the more exercising you need to do to burn it off. Just stop eating fattening foods and just day to day activity such as even walking will take care of the rest. If you sit at a desk all day, then you need to set aside some time for exercise. People who do enough walking on thier job or even climbing a few stairs, running errands, running after thier kids can be healthy if they don't compound the problem with poor food choices.

Americans are fat because we have lost our blue collar workers. Americans engage in sedentary jobs found in the service sector. We simply do not get the exercise we used to. In addition, our diets are full of cheap foods doctored with cheap but high calorie flavoring agents, such as fat, sugar, and corn oil. The cheap food is the result of capitalism attempting to make the most profit.

Yup!
That's it in a nutshell.
Out of the five cheapest ingredients you can make almost anything.
Fat, Sugar, Flour, Salt and Flavouring.
Look on the wrapper of almost anything you buy.

Actually, i don't think it's about exercise as much as it is healthy food choices. The more fattening foods you eat, the more exercising you need to do to burn it off. Just stop eating fattening foods and just day to day activity such as even walking will take care of the rest. If you sit at a desk all day, then you need to set aside some time for exercise. People who do enough walking on thier job or even climbing a few stairs, running errands, running after thier kids can be healthy if they don't compound the problem with poor food choices.
That doesn't apply to everyone, Peta. I have a very fast metabolism. I'm 5'11" and weigh about 165-170 lbs. I'm not flabby either.
My diet is whatever I feel like at the moment. I eat McD's, Sonic, Burger King, KFC, several times during the month, along with Snickers bars and 3-4 cans of Mountain Dew per day. Even though I do eat normal foods, I would say I have a very not nutritious diet.
And even though I do ride my mountain bike, I don't ride it but maybe once a week. By that token, even though I do ride my bike, it's not enough to warrant me being as thin as I am if I didn't have a fast metabolism.
I know quite a few people like me with fast metabolisms that can more or less eat what they want and stay thin.
Yes, I know that's an unfair advantage that people like me have over people with slower metabolisms that gain weight much easier, but we are stuck with the hand that mother nature gave us to an extent.

That doesn't apply to everyone, Peta. I have a very fast metabolism. I'm 5'11" and weigh about 165-170 lbs. I'm not flabby either.
My diet is whatever I feel like at the moment. I eat McD's, Sonic, Burger King, KFC, several times during the month, along with Snickers bars and 3-4 cans of Mountain Dew per day. Even though I do eat normal foods, I would say I have a very not nutritious diet.
And even though I do ride my mountain bike, I don't ride it but maybe once a week. By that token, even though I do ride my bike, it's not enough to warrant me being as thin as I am if I didn't have a fast metabolism.
I know quite a few people like me with fast metabolisms that can more or less eat what they want and stay thin.
Yes, I know that's an unfair advantage that people like me have over people with slower metabolisms that gain weight much easier, but we are stuck with the hand that mother nature gave us to an extent.

Yes, of course their are people with faster or slower metabolism but I'm talking about in general it does apply. Whether you have a faster or slower metabolism, your food choices can help or exacerbate the problem period. That's just a fact.

Yes, of course their are people with faster or slower metabolism but I'm talking about in general it does apply. Whether you have a faster or slower metabolism, your food choices can help or exacerbate the problem period. That's just a fact.

True: also the differences aren't dramatic. If one has a higher natural metabolism than someone of the same height and age then eat one less cookie a day (or the eqivalent).....that's 10 lbs of extra 'fat' accumulated on the body over a year. you can't have more gas in your car's tank after driving 10 miles unless you put more in and you can't gain weight by not refueling the body.

It's remarkable fat Americans don't get in shape after watching those floatng blubber butts being hoisted out of the water after Hurricane Katrina: "Send down the big chains,,,we've got another heavy one !"

Fools! We are preparing for nuclear winter.

you bunch of trolls. going on and on about diet.

Non-trolls must eat to.

American food industry has done serious research as to what tastes better. So, people go after fast food and restaurants and buffet places. In my younger days, I could eat at a buffet a lot of food in lunch time but could not eat much for dinner. I did not gain. My weight has been steady with +/- 2 pounds for the last 20 years. But I do eat salads, fruits, grains etc a lot too.

My kids grew up with fairly balanced food and now, even if they eat at the fast food places, they do it in moderation without any coaching. This means that, how one grows up in the early years defines what they will eat in adulthood.

So, do not expect, it will get any better.

The other day, I was flying to DC and the guy in the middle seat insisted to lift up the divider. He took 1/4 of my seat too.

The food plays a big role. When I moved to the US from Asia I had to adjust my eating habits big time. It's more fattening, more expensive, and tastes worse. Before I moved here I was struggling to gain weight for sports.

I thought food was cheaper.

The other day, I was flying to DC and the guy in the middle seat insisted to lift up the divider. He took 1/4 of my seat too.
I guess you weren't riding Southwest, were you?

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1343085

If you take up more than one seat, you should be charged more than one ticket. Plain and simple. It's not discrimination, it's common sense.

I thought food was cheaper.

I don't think so. In my case I used to eat in food courts very often and have a something like a satisfying meal of chicken and rice and soup for ~1USD. The memory of this really makes me want to cry :(

My food bill has been higher on average here and I rarely eat out anymore. Maybe it's cheaper than in Europe.

Wai,

It is not the spoon that bends,
It is I who bends.
God is in me and thus is you,
you just need to realize there is no separation between anything
and information processes cognition as
where objects exist in time and space and reality does not because it is the set of all sets
this is why spacetime is invisible from within, because it is nowhere absent
the dual 2 stage process gives rise to hology
It is I who bends, thus reality bends.
It is within reality that I am invisible, formless, odorless, tasteless
I am the variations of all things as my grammar is self-configuration
this is like a circle with every point being infinite as my variations
unbound defines me
I am ... ?... not
I am and I am not because I am neither.
I am neither because I am and I am not.
I am that = "I" and non-"I".

8. What is the "I"-object?

a. The "I"-object is an assumed entity that results from identification of Awareness, which is real, with the "I"-concept, which is unreal. The "I"-object seems to exist, but clear seeing shows that it does not.
b. You are not an object and You do not exist--You are Reality (Awareness)

CC
Good point.
American spoons are too big.

The OP is:

It is often thought that Americans are fat due to the excessive amount of fast food they consume in combination with a lessened exercise regime.

Although these factors may have caused minor increases in obesity levels we suggest an alternative theory that makes more sense; literally.

1. The brain uses 20% of the energy available to the body, although it is only 1/50th of the entire body.

2. Experiments with dogs have shown that you can raise the energy expenditure of these animals by stimulating their mind; by making them think. (ref: personal communication with scientist)

3. Americans not only suffer from a fast food culture; they also suffer from a uncomplicated mind culture. Culture is served in repeatedly limited easily assimilated chunks of low information content.

Taking all these facts together we propose that the American people are fat because they do not think enough.
Primary evidence:
1. Americans are one of the fattest people on earth.

Secondary evidence:
1. MTV'zation of TV culture
2. Dumbing down of college and other educational programs.
3. voting for Bush twice.

References:
- Increase in Obesity in the USA (http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/)
- Child's brain uses more energy than adult's (http://www.pdkintl.org/kappan/kbru9905.htm)


or in brief:


Taking all these facts together we propose that the American people are fat because they do not think enough.


Not necessarily so. If two groups of people think equally hard but one group
eat more or exercise less, and all other factors (genetic, etc) are equal,
certainly that group will becomes more fat. :confused:

I suspect that Americans are more fat because they are either:


eat more
exercise less
eat less fibrous foods
eat more fatty foods, or
less worried about weight

:confused:

What does an American lover say during sex?

"Oh baby, would you mind passing me the mayonnaise?"

Anyone know T-Rex (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syPk5EOe81M) from the movie 'Orgasmo'. Her voice (done by Trey Parker) perfectly animates this!

Less worried about the weight. It happens to women after they get married....and men too....

Americans are fat because we were the pioneers of driving ourselves everywhere. Other countries are following soon, the UK already has an epidemic of obesity, and China is on the way.

"Oh baby, would you mind passing me the mayonnaise?"



I got your mayonnaise right here. (holding crotch) :) j/k

Americans are fat because we were the pioneers of driving ourselves everywhere.

That is because, it is dangerous to use bike these days - too many cars are on the road and idiots are driving them. In densely populated areas, people are afraid to walk for the fear of getting mugged or raped. Only in Malls, you can walk and eat...and eat....

Right, because everyone's driving! It's a viscious circle. I actually watched my neighbors drive a car accross their lawn to where their humungus RV was parked! I don't even have to tell you, the kids are all quite plump. They spend their summer driving quads in circles around the yard.

This means they have money. They probably have their company outsourced to India or China to make more money. When the kids hit 35, they will die or be in a wheel chair due to diabetics or heart disease ...it would be interesting to see what happens in the next 30 years to our demographics.

Stomach bypass would be the surgery by that time.

Well no, the dad owns a bunch of construction equipment, which he likes to play with around the yard too.

I know that new yorkers walk a lot, also hawaii is very pedestrian friendly. They walk everywhere. The majority of america is not pedestrian friendly and don't have sidewalks that actually connect, wide enough or are safe. Also stores and marts are not close enough to housing whereas in hawaii there is usually something in walking distance. It's pretty smart and livable that way.

4. most Americans are sedentary

in 2000 more than 26% of adults reported no leisure time physical activity.


Since when is 26% "most"?

Poor sam. You sooo much want to hate americans. We could attack, umm... visit india to save you from the evil terrorists. Would that help?

Since when is 26% "most"?

Poor sam. You sooo much want to hate americans. We could attack, umm... visit india to save you from the evil terrorists. Would that help?

Come on sam %26 is only half duh.

Just for the record, I'm not fat, and I'm an american. There. I just dismissed all speculation regarding fat americans by one simple personal example.

Yay me!

Come on sam %26 is only half duh.
Huh? Where did you go to school? 26% is only one tenth!

(see. We americans. We know what we're talkin' bout.)

Just for the record, I'm not fat, and I'm an american. There. I just dismissed all speculation regarding fat americans by one simple personal example.

Yay me!

we need picture proof!

we need picture proof!
Sam has seen my picture. It was the first and only time it will ever be posted on the internet.

Sam has seen my picture. It was the first and only time it will ever be posted on the internet.

but I have not, send it to me plz. I will never reveal to anyone else.

but I have not, send it to me plz. I will never reveal to anyone else.
Sorry my friend. Not gonna happen. Google "Gary Oldman" and you'll get the general idea.

Sorry my friend. Not gonna happen. Google "Gary Oldman" and you'll get the general idea.

http://bueroalbers.com/images/michel_comte/photos/portfolio/15_l_gary_oldman.jpg<---this dude....okey.

http://bueroalbers.com/images/michel_comte/photos/portfolio/15_l_gary_oldman.jpg<---this dude....okey.
There ya go.

GENETIC ABNORMALITY MAY EXPLAIN HIGH RATES OF HEART DISEASE IN ASIAN INDIAN POPULATION (http://www.umm.edu/news/releases/miller.htm)

As a group, Asian Indians have one of the highest rates of heart disease in the world, three times higher than in the United States. In spite of a fairly healthy lifestyle, many Asian Indians have very high levels of the blood fat triglyceride and low levels of HDL (the good cholesterol), as well as a high incidence of diabetes. Researchers have been trying to figure out why the group is at higher risk.

Well no, the dad owns a bunch of construction equipment, which he likes to play with around the yard too.
That family sounds like a gene pool that is in dire need of some chlorine added to it!

Interesting. I just noticed the "Racism" thread in Open Government. I wonder when this American-bashing will end? It's offensive, sterotypical and racist.

Interesting. I just noticed the "Racism" thread in Open Government. I wonder when this American-bashing will end? It's offensive, sterotypical and racist.

There is a real reason Americans are getting fat.
Its an investmen (http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/04/fuel.html)t for the future

Just for the record, I'm not fat, and I'm an american. There. I just dismissed all speculation regarding fat americans by one simple personal example.

Yay me!

Sam has seen my picture. It was the first and only time it will ever be posted on the internet.

I can vouch for him. Gary Oldman isn't a patch on him.

There is a real reason Americans are getting fat.
Its an investmen (http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/04/fuel.html)t for the future
See? There's an up-side to everything. Reliance on foreign oil? Not any more!

Taking all these facts together we propose that the American people are fat because they do not think enough.


Yeah, we don't like to brag about it, but it only requires a small fraction of our brain power to remain the most intellectually accomplished people in the world. If we were to think ourselves thin, y'all would die of starvation trying to win another Nobel Prize. Or Olympic gold, since we'd be healthier to boot. The reason for the concentration of mental capacity in America is obvious: immigration has, for hundreds of years, drawn large numbers of intelligent, enterprising people out of foreign societies and gene pools and into ours.

Clearly the brain is the biggest metabolic drain of the body. Americans do not use their brains enough. Hence they are fat.

Interestingly more and more researchers are now finding the link between brain and obesity in Americans.

A recent peer-reviewed article states that:
In the US, the percentage of children who are overweight has doubled, and the percentage of teenagers who are overweight has tripled

Alzheimer’s disease (AD) is a progres-sive neurodegenerative disease characterized clinically by progressive cognitive impair-ment. Pathological hallmarks of the AD brain include intracellular neurofibrillary tangles and deposits of aggregated amyloid-β protein (Aβ) in neuritic plaques and cere-bral vessels.

Higher fat intake and excess body weight increase the risk of Alzheimer’s disease

There you have it. A clear link between obesity and the brain.

reference:
INTAKE OF SUCROSE-SWEETENED WATER INDUCES INSULIN RESISTANCE AND EXACERBATES MEMORY DEFICITS AND AMYLOIDOSIS IN A TRANS-GENIC MOUSE MODEL OF ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/M703561200v1

spuriousmonkey,
Americans do not use their brains enough. Hence they are fat.
There you have it. A clear link between obesity and the brain.
That paper was written by American researchers and they are obviously mistaken. They are fat and didn't use their brains enough when they did their research. :)

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If so, You may be gaining weight even before arriving at McDonalds because of that stupid decision to go and buy a Burger.

Lose weight by planning to go and buy a fresh salad with watercress,
then go to McDonalds.

You moderated the post so quickly after I posted it, that I did not realise it had been moderated. I thought it had not been posted and was trying to re-enter it.

Okay, Infraction reversed.

Just out of curiousity, What constitutes thinking.. I know it sounds stupid, but what level of thinking are we talking about ? Deep analytical thought ? Zen like mind state or just simply being able to use critical literacy skills ? If its the last.. no one on sci forums should be fat ..

Many Americans are fat because we're rich. We can afford to eat anything we want. We don't like to exercise. We like our toys (computers etc...)

Many are not fat because we exercise a lot and eat only 1/4 portions of everything we love. :)

It is the type of work people do. Several month ago, I had my roof done. There were 8 people who came to do the job. They were all buff...not a single one was fat. Even the old man boss was full of muscle but did have a small beer belly.

Physical labor reduces fat issues. Sitting on a chair all day working on a computer increases. One time, I had a lady programmer who worked for me. She was very beautiful except her hips were out of proportion...giant size. She said, she was well proportioned in college.

What we need is a computer chair that comes with muscle enhancing electrodes...the kind physical therapy uses...:D

You can rock/crunch your abs in a regular/office chair. I do it all the time.

What we need is a computer chair that comes with muscle enhancing electrodes...the kind physical therapy uses...:D
Yeah lol. The answer is a device that still lets you sit on your fat ass.

You can rock/crunch your abs in a regular/office chair. I do it all the time.

Show us your ab...:)

Kind of like this:

http://www.mzeus.com/physicalfitnessdigest/images/abs.PNG

:)

Kind of like this:

http://www.mzeus.com/physicalfitnessdigest/images/abs.PNG


You do not have a digital camera? :confused:

And it also has to do with the abundance of food that makes Americans fat, not just fast food, bigger portions, tastier foods and such. If you think back 50 to 60 years ago the majority of the American public were skinny and a small portion are fat. And now it's the other way around.

Americans are fat because we have money...

The more money we have = the more food we can buy = the more food we eat = the more weight we gain = the more fat we acquire.

Americans are fat because of fluorine in the water they drink...fluorine does not allow bacteria in the stomach to aid in digestion process and thus food is stored as fat.

Americans are fat because we have money...

Okay. But then why are Europeans fat? Why are Germans fat? And there's an fat problem in China, too. And, believe it or not, there's a fat problem in many nations of the world where you wouldn't think that fat would be a problem. So....

Why are Americans being singled out in this thread when there are fat people all over the world?

Baron Max

I dont get why I got an infraction here...or warning...I am offering a complete new theory to why Americans are fat, since all the water supply in USA is treated with fluoride that fluoride kills bacteria and also when people drink tap water in USA they bring that fluoride inside them and cause death of healthy digestion bacteria which thus cause the food to be converted to fat because of lack of acid to digest it and lack of bacteria to aid in digestion.

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

In fact since the good bacteria like acidophilus and bifidus are killed...the bad bacteria like Helicobater pylori exist and release toxins!

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/full/81/4/939

How is food "converted to fat"? The fat is already there surely.

How is food "converted to fat"? The fat is already there surely.

No, excess glucose gets converted and stored as fat.

Thats what I am saying because of lack of good bacteria (as a result of their death from intake of water with fluoride) like lactobacillus and bifidus which would have digested the food, the bad helicobacter pylori does not allow digestion to take place and almost all that excess glucose is converted to fat

Flouride?

No. Rural Americans are fatter than urban Americans. Folks who don't have flouridated water are the fattest. Rural children are also bigger porkers.

Okay. But then why are Europeans fat? Why are Germans fat? And there's an fat problem in China, too. And, believe it or not, there's a fat problem in many nations of the world where you wouldn't think that fat would be a problem. So....

Why are Americans being singled out in this thread when there are fat people all over the world?

Baron Max


This is true! When I went to Germany when I was younger, to visit relatives. Those ppl ate constantly, drank a hell of a lot too. There was quite a lot of very large ppl in that country.

Thats what I am saying because of lack of good bacteria (as a result of their death from intake of water with fluoride) like lactobacillus and bifidus which would have digested the food, the bad helicobacter pylori does not allow digestion to take place and almost all that excess glucose is converted to fat

Lactobacillus and bifidus in the stomach? Are you certain? :mad:

Lactobacillus and bifidus in the stomach? Are you certain? :mad:

huh? why the anger face? ... :bawl: what have I done? yes bacteria like lactobacillus and bifidus aid in digestion in colon...its not just the stomach

They are probiotic bacteria in the intestine; and they are "destroyed" everytime you take antibiotics.

There is no significant effect of fluoride seen in clinical studies on Oral cariogenic bacteria.

No statistically significant difference over time was found for mutans streptococci, lactobacilli or total streptococci after treatment with the fluoride varnishes or the thymol varnish.
http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?Aktion=ShowFulltext&ArtikelNr=16572&Ausgabe=225463&ProduktNr=224219

And since these Intestinal bacteria digest food and make it MORE available, not less (undigested food is excreted) your premise is total BS.

They are probiotic bacteria in the intestine; and they are "destroyed" everytime you take antibiotics.

There is no significant effect of fluoride seen in clinical studies on Oral cariogenic bacteria.

fluoride is added to water to kill bacteria in the first place...as it travels down the stomach this fluoride kills other friendly bacteria as well.

ok than...in addition to fluoride water, antibiotics also kill the digestive bacteria

http://www.raysahelian.com/fluoride.html

fluoride is added to water to kill bacteria in the first place...as it travels down the stomach this fluoride kills other friendly bacteria as well.

Please read above paper for reference.

Please read above paper for reference.

ok so all that paper is saying is that streptococci and lactobaccilli bacteria were not really killed after fluorine varnish was applied to teeth...but this is different...it was not given time to absorb unlike water. People who drink tap water with fluoride drink alot of it and all this fluoride accumulates in their body killing the 1-2 kg of intestinal healthy flora along the way.

Please provide evidence

Also provide evidence that undigested food in colon is converted to fat and not poop.

Okay. But then why are Europeans fat?

Money

Why are Germans fat?

By the way, Germany is in Europe :D And the answer is still money.

And there's an fat problem in China, too.

You sure about that??? :bugeye:

China's 2002 national nutrition health survey revealed that 14.7 percent of Chinese people are overweight, with 2.6 percent obese.

When comparing that to the US, that is NOTHING

One hundred and nineteen million, or 64.5 percent, of American adults are overweight or obese.



And people ask why everyone is focusing on America's weight problem lol.

what a racist thread.

James R should all ban you.

what a racist thread.

James R should all ban you.

Racist? No.

National seperatist? Yes.

Japanese people are also rich, but they are not fat. :rolleyes:

Q: why most supermodel are skinny?
A: because they are...

*just wanna show that I'm still alive while preparing exam, nobody miss me, bye for now :bawl:

The world is getting fatter because we love to eat and hate to exercise.
I'm surrounded by skinny, obsessed people and have managed to remain slim yet curvy.:)

In CA many people are SO OBSESSED with being thin, it's scary.:eek:

We spend more time on computers, in front of TV's, in cars etc...

So what? I don't care. I'd rather people be fat and happy than skinny and miserable.:)

Models are skinny because they barf up their food and are told by fashion moguls to look like 12 year-old boys.

Q: why most supermodel are skinny?
A: because they are...
LOL

Models are skinny because they barf up their food and are told by fashion moguls to look like 12 year-old boys.
No. Models are skinny because the camera adds 10 lbs to a person.

Japanese people are also rich, but they are not fat.

That is because they have "bacillus subtilus" in their diet.

Japanese people are also rich, but they are not fat.
:rolleyes:


Oh really !? ;)
http://www.christian-faure.net/wp-images/Sumo.jpg

They are not average Japanese :shrug:

They are not average Japanese :shrug:

lol I know :p

Oh really !? ;)
http://www.christian-faure.net/wp-images/Sumo.jpg

If you average these two Japanese people's weight and height
you get perfect results.

If you average these two Japanese people's weight and height
you get perfect results.

How do you know the smaller one isn't average weight ? ;)

Well he looks about 10 years old.....

Well he looks about 10 years old.....

Yeah, in comparison with the big guy :p

How do you know the smaller one isn't average weight ? ;)

And how do you know that the bigger one isn't average weight?

And how do you know that the bigger one isn't average weight?

Because he is fat.. :shrug:

the small one isn't japanese.

neither is the biggest one.

the small one isn't japanese.

neither is the biggest one.

How do you know ?

How do you know ?

The boy is European (hair).

The big dude is from Hawaii or that other island state of which i cannot remember the name, from which Japan imported big dudes for a while for the sumo wrestling.

The boy is European (hair).

The big dude is from Hawaii or that other island state of which i cannot remember the name, from which Japan imported big dudes for a while for the sumo wrestling.

Ok then.. but what about these dudes ?
http://wobilog.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/sumo.jpg

It is indeed a boy, but certainly not European..
http://chapters.aaja.org/Washington/sumo.jpg

American spoons are too big.
Well I think that solves the riddle once and for all.

Japanese people are also rich, but they are not fat. :rolleyes:

Q: why most supermodel are skinny?
A: because they are...

*just wanna show that I'm still alive while preparing exam, nobody miss me, bye for now :bawl:

Anyway...

I was reacting to above post.
There are Japanese sumo wrestlers, it's a fact. It's also a fact that they are overweight.

Anyway...

I was reacting to above post.
There are Japanese sumo wrestlers, it's a fact. It's also a fact that they are overweight.

no, they usually are underweight. Till they become winners.

no, they usually are underweight. Till they become winners.

Then there are Japanese sumo wrestlers that are winners, who are overweight. Fact remains thatv there are overweight people in Japan (of Japanese nationality).

Japan appears to have one of the lowest rates of obesity. Not zero though, the fat bastards.

Japan appears to have one of the lowest rates of obesity. Not zero though, the fat bastards.

I can agree to that.

To gain weight, the sumo wrestlers eat this rich, fatty soup and sit around. I saw a special on it.

To gain weight, the sumo wrestlers eat this rich, fatty soup and sit around. I saw a special on it.

Sounds fascinating.

Americans are fat so they can become dinner when the aliens arrive.