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Allahs_Mathematics 03-28-03, 08:46 PM Iraq is the only country in the entire mid-east region that actually has a combination of capabillities which can result in a great danger for the existence of the state of Israel .
But first of all , the Israeli influence in the US government must be admitted and acknowledged . If that premis isnt taken as true , as mutch Amerikans wouldnt do , the point following is useless .
There is a great ammount of evidence , historically and actual politically of this relation and influence , to whitch i wont refer because it would change the topics subject into : the Zionist Influence in the US govt .
So if this premis is accepted as true , the following can be said about first of all Saddam Hussain and Iraqi Ba'ath . Saddams claims to have a historical motive for the fall of Jerusalem , whitch lies in the biblical war between Babylonian ruler Nebuchadnizar and king David of Jerusalem , and this ruler of Babylon is supposed to be Saddam's direct ancestor . Thus Saddam sees himself as the overthrower of the modern state of Israel , as his ancestor did 2500 years ago .
A point USA tries to make about Iraq are the weapons of mass destruction . But has not Amerikan ever wondered why Saddam wants to use them against Amerikans . In the first place , many Amerikans dont know that Saddam has claimed victory 12 years ago , so unless a new conflict would arise (like is happening now) , there would absolutely be no reason for Saddam to attack USA . Saddam is a determined follower of the Zionist-Amerika theory , as he said in his interviews , and even IF he would care for USA , he understands Israel influence , why not go after the source in the first place ?
Many believed Saddam attacked Israel 12 years ago , just as a reaction towards another state because he's mad and has to do something . The truth is however , that Saddam understands the importance of Israel , whitch obviously has grown immense after 40/50 years . That alone is a good motive to attack Israel , because it is Israel that commands the US army into or out of Iraq .
Saddam also supports the Palestinian Martyrs(families) , (he would build Wafa a monument) etc .
So what if Saddam indeed gets his hands on an a-bomb .....or some serieus biological stuff , Tel Aviv would be the first thing that would pop into his mind .
On the other side , Israel is paranoid as a zionist occupier after 50 years of resistence becomes . I would even say the state of Israel(especially the ones who live a while there) has become a place of mass-schizophrenia , resulting in illogic paranoid and extreme reactions , and i mean AS a people .
So what would the situation be for Sharon , he is scared of Saddam for quite some time , and what if his paranoid mind understands Saddam to have a-bombs....US would invade it .
And isnt it suspiscious that suddenly Israel and Bush step forward with a Palestinian state plan ? Why would Israel give the Palestines a state , when they have another state that threatens them . USA has more advance at a palestinian state , simply because of 9-11 . Perhaps its a trade thats been made ....a palestinian state for an Iraqi one .
either way , a logical implication would be Syria as a next target , this because of the Israeli demands that are gonna be attached to this Palestinian State . The first was get rid of saddam , the second will be get rid of hamas/islamic jihad/hizbollah , all 3 sponsored/assisted/etc by Syria
Ofcourse , if u ad the oil motives , it would create completeness .
Its not like the Israeli's are ALL there is to it (or is it?)
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I'm a very passionate supporter of Israel. My dad worked for their military at one time. They are incredibly nice people and I love their language.
Israel does have an influence in the United States, much like the United States have an influence in Israel. After the U.N. created Israel in 1948, the Europeans fell off the ship and couldn't protect Israel anymore as they agreed to. The United States took over, and since then Israel has been our most loyal ally except maybe for Britain.
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Israel isn't the one bombing women and children. It is the Palestinians. You can show your support for the Israeli Defense Forces here:
- http://pizzaidf.org/
- http://burgeridf.org/
:)
The Israeli's aren't bombing children at present anyway, they prefer to shoot or bulldoze them.
:rolleyes:
http://www.al-awda.org/
You Killed Jesus 03-28-03, 11:56 PM A bunch of Khazars from Europe do not belong on Palestinean land. A war against Israel is a noble cause.
Originally posted by You Killed Jesus
A bunch of Khazars from Europe do not belong on Palestinean land. A war against Israel is a noble cause. You're in "good" company. Hitler said the same thing.
shadows 03-29-03, 12:03 AM It won't end until pigs fly. Are the protesters against the us for tyranny? Let them know what terror of facism is about if they are that way and they would be heart filled enthuasiasts for this war on iraq.
Krassos 03-29-03, 12:03 AM Originally posted by You Killed Jesus
A bunch of Khazars from Europe do not belong on Palestinean land. A war against Israel is a noble cause.
You're one of those silly nazis aren't you?
You Killed Jesus 03-29-03, 12:09 AM Originally posted by Jerrek
You're in "good" company. Hitler said the same thing.
Yes. While Hitler ultimately failed in his goals, his spirit lives on in those loyal to their race.
shadows 03-29-03, 12:15 AM it is time hitlerism was wiped aside and new challenges conquered. Such as placing colonies throughout the inner solar system and turning mars into a haven.
Allahs_Mathematics 03-29-03, 09:49 AM I'm a very passionate supporter of Israel
Interesting how that combines with ur lack of intelligence in the "anti-semitism" thread
I am a supporter of your "terrorists" , just so u know , zionist
They are incredibly nice people and I love their language. ]
How sad
I am quite sure u wouldnt even know the difference or relation between hebrew and yiddish or ladino .
Israel isn't the one bombing women and children. It is the Palestinians. You can show your support for the Israeli Defense Forces here:
:confused:
well , i rather support my occupied brothers , who suffer from genocided first because of the brits and french , and since 48 from the jews .
A bunch of Khazars from Europe do not belong on Palestinean land. A war against Israel is a noble cause.
a documented person
I to recall for Jihad on the State of Israel
You're in "good" company. Hitler said the same thing.
Actually he didnt , go read his damn book . Hitler speaks of semites , he didnt know about the Khazaric connectiin to the Ashkenazim tribe of the jews . Its funny in a sick way , he wanted to kill semites , instead he killed turks , and didnt know about it untill the day he died . Well , turks werent aryans in his eyes anyways so not a big loss for him either way .
You're one of those silly nazis aren't you?
I agree with the man u call nazi , and that is not because of motives but because of FACTS . Go read a book , stop hallucinating on racism anhd anti semitism
Yes. While Hitler ultimately failed in his goals, his spirit lives on in those loyal to their race.
I c this man undocumented as well , perhaps he is a nazi even .
HITLER didnt know of the Khazars , praising him without even reading his book is a sign of the highest form of ignorance .
it is time hitlerism was wiped aside and new challenges conquered
Hitlerism , as if histry started in 39 and ended in 45 .
ridiciouless
BOYCOTT THE NAZI TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAHELL:
I am happy some people still understand whats going on
Vortexx 03-29-03, 09:54 AM E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T POST Allahs mathematics....
A good analysis of the situation without the hollow retoric that comes with some Pro- and anti Flagwaving people here...
My question to Helen:
How well do you know the minds of the Hizbollah, is there any kind of "respectable" peace thinkable and acceptable to the other party that allows the co-existence of both israelis and palestininas, without the jews pushed into the sea?
Question for the defenders of the Zionist case:
How well do you know the mind of sharon, is there any kind of "respectable" peace thinkable and acceptable to the other party that allow allows the co-existence of both israelis and palestininas, without the palestinians pushed into the dessert?
My point is, that neither the sea/nor the dessert is gonna be an attractive option and will be fought against with all means (and therefore tanks in gaza and suicidebombings in tel aviv for at least several tens or more years)....
Do you have better altarnatives to offer ? What is stopping you, religion ? , are you at all interested in alternatives or do you actually think you will gonna win this bloody war in the long run and will get totally rid of the other side some day ???
Allahs_Mathematics 03-29-03, 10:07 AM How well do you know the minds of the Hizbollah, is there any kind of "respectable" peace thinkable and acceptable to the other party that allows the co-existence of both israelis and palestininas, without the jews linving in the sea?
Let me in answer that question for u , since I am pretty familliar with Hizbollah and their struggle , u can read more about it if u wish on www.hizbollah.org
U should know the Hizbollah isnt that interested in the Palestinian struggle as it seems , Hizbollah is more after defending their Lebanon in the first place , the fight Hamas and Islamic Jihad and Fatah and its Al-Aqsa brigades are fighting is a bit different from Hizbollah , i think u rather speak of them when u its about peacefull living together and not running the jews into the sea .
I believe that time has passed , even Fatah openly supports Hamas and Islamic Jihad and its own military Al-Aqsa brigades .
Remeber Wafa Idris(Peace Be Upon Her) the 27 year old first female Filisteen bomber BORN in the refugee camp of Al-Amari?
I say the LAST chance of peace what at last election , and Mizna lost , if he would have won , things might have been different .
Even IF there is a palestinian state , its gonna be a joke , and just a concentration camp like the refugee camps r right now . Ararbs who lived in the Jewish(ILLEGIT) territory all their lives would be deported to Palestine , and war would only increase .
U should know that after 50 years of genocides , my people are pretty much fed up . Its hard to imagine how u would even send ur own child with a bomb package , but thats the deal nowadays .
My conclusion is , the only way of safety for the jews EVER , is if they leave the land and go back where they came from (ofcourse this is for the zionists , the native jews are welcome as ever(just as they are in Syria etc))
So no , no guarantees , but those of destruction & terror if they dont leave .
TheAZCowBoy 03-29-03, 10:29 AM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jerrek
[B [the israeli flag--and a tee showing the US/Israel CRIMES SYNDICATE TO BE A "FAMILY" CO-OP.
Jerrek posted: "I'm a very passionate supporter of Israel. My dad worked for their military at one time. They are incredibly nice people and I love their language."
TAC: Now you can begin to worry about the UN' new International Crimes Court ( ICC ) Jerrek. There are no statute of limitations on CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, better let your uncle Dufus know this, ya hear? :D
Jerrek: "Israel does have an influence in the United States, much like the United States have an influence in Israel. After the U.N. created Israel in 1948, the Europeans fell off the ship and couldn't protect Israel anymore as they agreed to. The United States took over, and since then Israel has been our most loyal ally except maybe for Britain."
TAC: So what's new?
"Birds of a feather--flock together!"
So how does it feel to have killers of Palestinian civilians in the family tree Jerret?
TheAZCowBoy, :D
Interesting how that combines with ur lack of intelligence in the "anti-semitism" thread Because you don't agree with me? By that logic you are showing a lack of intelligence too...
I am a supporter of your "terrorists" , just so u know , zionist Yes I know. So let me ask you this question.
Do you support and justify the suicide bombings on the Palestinians' part against the women and children of Israel?
How sad
I am quite sure u wouldnt even know the difference or relation between hebrew and yiddish or ladino I speak passable Hebrew. I really need to work on it though. And why would you say it is sad?
I to recall for Jihad on the State of Israel You really get off to killing innocent women and children don't you?
Actually he didnt , go read his damn book . Hitler speaks of semites , he didnt know about the Khazaric connectiin to the Ashkenazim tribe of the jews . Its funny in a sick way , he wanted to kill semites , instead he killed turks , and didnt know about it untill the day he died . Well , turks werent aryans in his eyes anyways so not a big loss for him either way . Actually he did. But not for the same goals. And I have read his book Mein Kampf. Two times.
and that is not because of motives but because of FACTS You mean lies presented as facts for your own propaganda right? Why don't you present these so-called facts?
I am happy some people still understand whats going on Well you should be happy there are still useful idiots out there that will support the terrorists. Let me ask you another question. To you AND Helen:
Do you support and justify the happenings of September 11 against civilians?
Now you can begin to worry about the UN' new International Crimes Court ( ICC ) Jerrek. There are no statute of limitations on CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, better let your uncle Dufus know this, ya hear? What, more useless crap from the Useless Nations? If I recall the United States didn't sign it, and neither did Israel. In fact, a Senate bill has authorized the President to use full and necessary force in case the Hague or the EU decides to kidnap one of our soldiers. And I'm pretty sure Israel won't stand having other nations kidnap their soldiers. Who the hell cares about the ICC anyways? It is government by the same corrupt nations that govern the rest of the U.N.
So how does it feel to have killers of Palestinian civilians in the family tree Jerret?Knowing that they don't do it on purpose and that they are simply defending their own country, good.
Allahs_Mathematics 03-29-03, 11:50 AM Because you don't agree with me? By that logic you are showing a lack of intelligence too...
No , because u simply make incorrect statements about the Judaistic history , whitch is an interesting paralel with the ignorant statements u make in here .
Do you support and justify the suicide bombings on the Palestinians' part against the women and children of Israel?
YES I DO
I speak passable Hebrew. I really need to work on it though. And why would you say it is sad?
So how do u commincate with Israeli's then ? None of them speak hebrew....... It is sad because u (looking at what u say etc) do not even know that the language spoken Israel is Yiddish , not Hebrew . Hebrew is merely used to write down the Yiddisch language , as is Ladino .
You really get off to killing innocent women and children don't you?
yea , im just like hitler/saddam/osama/stalin etc .
All of us , just idiotic retarted psychotic people who were bored and decided to murder the masses .
Please.........
But i must say , children should never be involved in such conflicts . But thats reality , and like i said there r no rules for war in my opinion , when war is based on self-defence , whitch it is in the Zionist state of Israel .
And i dont really c the woman-thing , r they not adults , do they not vote , do they not support . Im sory but i have no tears left for Israeli woman , all of those already are taken my Palesitinian sisters who live in disgusting concetration camps and suffer disgusting policies of a STATE , an ORGANIZED entitiy , with a serious ARMY .
Actually he did. But not for the same goals. And I have read his book Mein Kampf. Two times.
Please tell me where he says such a thing . Also please tell me why he would he call himself an Anti-Semite if he has a problem with Khazaric jews ? And what other goals do u speak of , man i bet u r bluffing ur ass of , u want me to send u the ebook ?
You mean lies presented as facts for your own propaganda right? Why don't you present these so-called facts?
I really dont feel like sending u information , simply because u r able to do research urself . If U wish , i could direct u to several sites with information to the subject , but if u r capable in typining the words "khazar" into altavista etc , u will find enough of stuff .
Id start with Arthur Koessler's (a zionist jew) book , the 13th Tribe .
Well you should be happy there are still useful idiots out there that will support the terrorists
200.000.000 arabs to start with .
Do you support and justify the happenings of September 11 against civilians?
YES I DO
Id make a national Arabic holiday out of it .
Get over 3000 people PLEASE ........whats the saying ?
A goyim isnt even worth a jewish fingernail ?
I bet the same goes for Amerikans
U mknow what , im praying everyday for it to happen AGAIN , and AGAIN , and AGAIN , untill ur disgusting capitalistic colonizing build on slaves state would GET OUT , along with their beloved ISRAEL .
What, more useless crap from the Useless Nations? If I recall the United States didn't sign it, and neither did Israel
Hey , u make a POINT , its the second one i caught u making .
Indeed , what importance does ANYTHING have when USA and Israel dont care for it .
100% correct .
Knowing that they don't do it on purpose and that they are simply defending their own country, good.
OOPS , there goes my buldozer of a goyims house
Sorry.......im just defending the land i stole 50 years ago
And even IF , their ignorance on what they're doing is NO excuse , like the ignorance of an Amerikan who know nothing on what his lands foreign economical/military policy is , is NO excuse .
Do u know what interest me most .....do u know who the people are that complain about 9-11 , they are people who were not directly affected by it . All 9-11 victims families march in NYC , and arnt supporting NAZI politics .
No , because u simply make incorrect statements about the Judaistic history , whitch is an interesting paralel with the ignorant statements u make in here . So why don't you try to be smart and list these incorrect statements and their correct version so I can see where we differ instead of making asinine comments that is useful to no one?
When asked "Do you support and justify the suicide bombings on the Palestinians' part against the women and children of Israel? " Allahs_Mathematics replied: YES I DO I'm sure Mohammed will be really proud of you. Honestly. So much honor in killing women and children that had no direct part in this and have no quarrel with you.
So how do u commincate with Israeli's then ? None of them speak hebrew....... It is sad because u (looking at what u say etc) do not even know that the language spoken Israel is Yiddish , not Hebrew . Hebrew is merely used to write down the Yiddisch language , as is Ladino . Don't be stupid. Hebrew is not just a written language. The official language of Israel is Hebrew. You learn to speak Hebrew. http://www.smilesprod.com/hedialog1.htm
You're separating flyshit from pepper.
But i must say , children should never be involved in such conflicts . Don't lie again. You just said up there you support the killing of women and children. So what will it be?
And i dont really c the woman-thing , r they not adults , do they not vote , do they not support Oh yes, I forgot, they are merely property right? The Qu'ran says not to kill the women because they can be property.
I really dont feel like sending u information , simply because u r able to do research urself . I think you can't. In any case, how am I supposed to research if I can't comprehend reality as you said in another post?
If U wish , i could direct u to several sites with information to the subject You mean to hate sites right?
Id start with Arthur Koessler's (a zionist jew) book , the 13th Tribe .I thought you hate the Jews and "their lies." What makes this one so different?
YES I DO
Id make a national Arabic holiday out of it . Once again, I'm quite sure Mohammed will be proud of you trying to make a holiday celebrating the murder of civilians, women, and children. Way to go.
Hey , u make a POINT , its the second one i caught u making .
Indeed , what importance does ANYTHING have when USA and Israel dont care for it .
100% correct . Well at least we agree on something.
Psycho-Cannon 03-29-03, 12:04 PM As the Washington Post noted, Wallace, who is currently the senior US ground commander in Iraq, was expressing “what senior officers in Iraq have been saying privately for several days.” Iraqi resistance has not crumbled under the weight of a devastating bombing campaign and the generals now have to prepare for protracted urban warfare to seize and hold the major population centres. As one senior officer ominously commented: “If you’re really serious about that, you have to do it the Israeli way, with tanks and bulldozers.”
Allahs_Mathematics 03-29-03, 12:34 PM So why don't you try to be smart and list these incorrect statements and their correct version so I can see where we differ instead of making asinine comments that is useful to no one?
ur funny .
The first one would be that the Ashkenazim Jew of today (90% of all jews) , does not descend form the Semitic 12 tribes of Israel , but comes from the midevil conversion of The Khazars (A Turkic people ruling central Asia back then) .
Another one would be that the language of the Ashkenazim is not Hebrew but Yiddish , a Germano-Slav dialect WRITTEN in Hebrew ...but we seem to disagree on this .
I'm sure Mohammed will be really proud of you. Honestly. So much honor in killing women and children that had no direct part in this and have no quarrel with you.
god ur so funny
I have told u children I DO c as a problem , i give me rhetorikal questions , i answer in the same way .
The fact of knowing/not knowing people is a bit ridiciouless wouldnt u say when we speak of international relations wouldnt u say ? I bet all the soldiers in Iraq and Israel havent sat down for a cup of coffee with the ones they torture , did they ?
Don't be stupid. Hebrew is not just a written language. The official language of Israel is Hebrew. You learn to speak Hebrew.
Lets say ur right......perhaps U r even . Tell me then how do all those Yiddish speaking Ashkenazim jews manage themselves (theyre the fast majority).....none of them ever spoke hebrew , but Yiddish....do they go to skool all over , or what the procedure ?
You're separating flyshit from pepper.
And what the hell is that ?
Don't lie again. You just said up there you support the killing of women and children. So what will it be?
2bad for the kids then , if u wish to drag such an opinion out of me with ur rhetoriks . I have told u how i feel about children-victims , its sad....but hey , if thats how its got to be , SO BE IT .
Oh yes, I forgot, they are merely property right? The Qu'ran says not to kill the women because they can be property.
LMAO
u r making a fool out of urself , id say my arguments NOT to exculde woman would be rather FEMINISTIC wouldnt u say so ?
And then u speak of property , based on the Qu'ran .
Beside the fact that im not muslim , U r EXTREMELY disrespecting the Qu'ran , u have not read it i am sure , u couldnt even read it ...its in Arabic , Ancient Arabic (U know...like Hebrew)
I think you can't. In any case, how am I supposed to research if I can't comprehend reality as you said in another post?
Do u wish me to send u Arthur Koessler-13th Tribe ?
You mean to hate sites right?
Who invented that word , the ADL ?
LMAO
I thought you hate the Jews and "their lies." What makes this one so different?
Stop YOUR RHETORIKS , u r making a fool out of urself for thinking i would actually go to such generelizations .
What if i would say , that I'm Jewish.....how would that influence your simplistic thoughtsprocesses ? Perhaps i converted , perhaps not (there r Arabic Jews u know)
Oh no wait........all jews support ZION , dont they .
U should know the entire damn state is fully against the TORAH , cuz there was no mesias to lead them .
Chassidic Jews agree with me on this part , well...the ones not being hypocritic enough to live in Israel .
Once again, I'm quite sure Mohammed will be proud of you trying to make a holiday celebrating the murder of civilians, women, and children. Way to go.
well...i guess that says it all doesnt it , the approval of Muhammad (pbuh) .
Idiot
TheAZCowBoy 03-29-03, 07:30 PM Jerrek: "Israel isn't the one bombing women and children. It is the Palestinians. You can show your support for the Israeli Defense Forces here:
- http://pizzaidf.org/
- http://burgeridf.org/
:)
TAC: Indeed, you are a brain washed ZioNazi Jerrek.
The baby faced IDF punks of Israel have received medal's for being thugs ( Medal's were given to 27 IDF thugs after the Jenin progrom of April 15, 2002 ) in the murder of 127 Palestinian civilians.
The IDF thugs were also indicted in the cold blooded murder of little 12 year old Palestinian boy; Mohammed Al-Dura in 2001
The IDF thugs were indicted in the massacre of 201 Palestinian women and children at Qana, Lebanon, April 18, 1996.
The IDF thugs were indicted in the dropping of a 2,000 lb. bomb on a crowded apartment building in October, 2002 in Gaza killing a lone terrorist "suspect," along with 18 Palestinian women and children!
Yassir, them killer IDF punks are real heros in the eyes of the world--NOT!
The International Crimes Court ( ICC ) people are taking names for their "pinata" party to be held one day when this war is over.
TheAZCoWBoy,
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