joepistole
08-10-07, 12:40 AM
Will it be a Dem or a Republican? Will it be Hillary, Edwards, Obama, Mitt or someone else?
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View Full Version : Who will be our next president? joepistole 08-10-07, 12:40 AM Will it be a Dem or a Republican? Will it be Hillary, Edwards, Obama, Mitt or someone else? pjdude1219 08-10-07, 12:43 AM well i almost positive it will be a dem unless the repubs steal another one Tiassa 08-10-07, 12:52 AM Barring some sort of absolute disaster, it will be a Democrat. As to Clinton, Edwards, or Obama ... it will most likely be one of the three, but it's too early to make any reliable prediction. In order of my preference, and without any implication of prediction: Edwards Richardson Kucinich Biden Dodd Obama Clinton The sad thing is, that while I like Barack Obama, and while I greatly appreciate the idea that he's not yet entrenched in old-school politics, his weakness as a candidate seems to be a lack of campaigning wisdom. He's a little too much like an idealistically agressive puppy. There's months to go, though, and I've only recently started paying more attention. But his foreign-policy spat with Hillary and his performance at the AFL-CIO debate have done nothing to impress me. Obviously, if I trade out my personal choices for "electability", the list looks differently: Edwards Clinton Obama Biden Richardson Dodd Kucinich Gravel is a non-entity, unfortunately. I don't mean to leave him off the list, but he's unelectable, and I admit I know next to nothing about him. What little I've seen of him does not impress me. He's just a bit too grumpy and self-righteous. Perhaps this is the wrong impression. There are months to go, and, theoretically, anything could happen. joepistole 08-10-07, 01:21 AM I agee with Edwards, I have some concerns about Richardson and Clinton. I think both Richardson and Clinton are pretty much bought and paid for. But probably any Democrat would be better than any Republcan...that said i have been a registerd Republican for 40 years. But have not voted Republican since the shrubs showed up. Tiassa 08-10-07, 01:30 AM I have it in my mind that it was Richardson who asked the government to open Groom Lake, and demanded an investigation into Ufo sightings back when he was Governor of New Mexico. I could be wrong about that, though. People have been so focused on tearing down Edwards, though, I haven't even stopped to think about what might be wrong with Richards. superstring01 08-10-07, 03:48 AM My first choice is Giuliani. I think that Giuliani is the ONLY Republican who is electable: he's moderate on most social issues (like most of America) and strong on the issues that matter most to Americans. I'd like to see him run with Rice... though I don't think she'll run. NOW, if you are asking me who I think will win: Hillary Clinton. I think that there is JUST enough hatred for the Republicans (thanks to Bush-- it's pretty well earned) and that hatred will foment a platform of electability that will overcome the "gender" issue for most Americans. In an "ugh" sort of way... that fact makes me happy since I am somewhat favorable to living long enough to see the glass celing finally broken (better that it happens at my young age of 32 and not 72). The only Democrat I really like is Richardson, but after him, Hillary is preferable to the rest. She's got some nuts, and that is acceptable. ~String Challenger78 08-10-07, 06:03 AM Yep, Unlike Giuliani, who is just building on the 9/11 legend from what i've heard., other than that I think the repubs are done for... Dark520 08-10-07, 12:26 PM Who would I like? Giuliani, for the reasons stated above by String. Who do I think will win? Hillary, which is unfortunate, because she's fucking nuts... Atom 08-10-07, 12:37 PM This is a great question for me. Several years ago I predicted that Hilary Clinton would be the next President of the USA. I was laughed out of the place..she was univerally despised. Both Americans and Brits poured nothing but scorn on the idea. However, I still hold the records...I hope!! When Venus crossed the Sun I checked the chart with Hilary Clintons...she WILL be the next President. Atom 08-10-07, 12:38 PM My first choice is Giuliani. I think that Giuliani is the ONLY Republican who is electable: he's moderate on most social issues (like most of America) and strong on the issues that matter most to Americans. I'd like to see him run with Rice... though I don't think she'll run. NOW, if you are asking me who I think will win: Hillary Clinton. I think that there is JUST enough hatred for the Republicans (thanks to Bush-- it's pretty well earned) and that hatred will foment a platform of electability that will overcome the "gender" issue for most Americans. In an "ugh" sort of way... that fact makes me happy since I am somewhat favorable to living long enough to see the glass celing finally broken (better that it happens at my young age of 32 and not 72). The only Democrat I really like is Richardson, but after him, Hillary is preferable to the rest. She's got some nuts, and that is acceptable. ~String lol..dont make me laugh..he isnt even popular in NY never mind the USA...dream on, dude.:cool: Kadark 08-10-07, 12:41 PM I think Hillary Clinton will be elected, but if it were my choice, I'd choose Mike Gravel. Tiassa, you should read about some of his ideas/watch his sections of the debates. He's got huge cojones for some things he says. Atom 08-10-07, 12:41 PM My first choice is Giuliani. I think that Giuliani is the ONLY Republican who is electable: he's moderate on most social issues (like most of America) and strong on the issues that matter most to Americans. I'd like to see him run with Rice... though I don't think she'll run. NOW, if you are asking me who I think will win: Hillary Clinton. I think that there is JUST enough hatred for the Republicans (thanks to Bush-- it's pretty well earned) and that hatred will foment a platform of electability that will overcome the "gender" issue for most Americans. In an "ugh" sort of way... that fact makes me happy since I am somewhat favorable to living long enough to see the glass celing finally broken (better that it happens at my young age of 32 and not 72). The only Democrat I really like is Richardson, but after him, Hillary is preferable to the rest. She's got some nuts, and that is acceptable. ~String Ah in the second part you got it right. For sure a Woman is going to become President...at the time of my prediction, the americns scoffed at the idea of a Woman being elected. They suggested maybe Condoleeza Rice..I checked both charts...Hilarys was far more positive. Atom 08-10-07, 12:43 PM I don't like the Osama guy...a few months ago he was going to crush Hilary but I don't think so...theres something about him that just doesnt fit. spidergoat 08-10-07, 01:19 PM I think Mit Romney will be the next president because he looks the best and Americans are a bunch of idiots. leopold99 08-10-07, 01:32 PM I'd like to see him run with Rice... OMFG ! i would LOVE to get this woman alone ! :) i would have rice thighs for breakfast, lunch, AND dinner! heh, heh, heh. :D spidergoat 08-10-07, 01:43 PM Huh? You are attracted to Condoleezza? :confused: joepistole 08-10-07, 01:43 PM Personally, I kinda like Obama girl!!!! oreodont 08-10-07, 01:51 PM Clinton will be the next president. leopold99 08-10-07, 02:02 PM Huh? You are attracted to Condoleezza? :confused: yes! Enmos 08-10-07, 02:25 PM Wouldnt it be cool if Clinton won ? First female president. :) spidergoat 08-10-07, 02:32 PM yes! Really? :eek: Doesn't she look like Yoda? http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07325/Codoleeza-Yoda.jpg (http://xs.to) Enmos 08-10-07, 02:33 PM Lol :D joepistole 08-10-07, 02:37 PM I don't know about you guys, but i like Obama girl for president!!!!!! joepistole 08-10-07, 02:38 PM Pretty Good Spider! I never before noticed. Neildo 08-10-07, 03:57 PM Clinton will be president. The media and so-called "strategists" knew this back before Bush was elected in '00 when she wasn't even ready to run for NY senate and people said in '08 she would make her move to first get so-called "experience" behind her -- but JFK Jr. stood in her way, and we all know what happened there like the rest of the Clinton hit-list. Everyone is picked ahead of time. Bow to your corporate royal families. We have King Oil and Prince Cocaine. - N countezero 08-10-07, 04:00 PM While I don't agree with the conspiracies above, the sentiment is spot on. Hillary has been preordained as president ever since Gore lost — yes, lost — in 2000. I don't see how anything has changed much. It's hers to lose... Pandaemoni 08-10-07, 04:05 PM I don't like the Osama guy... I agree. I wouldn't vote for him either, damn terrorists. I didn't even know he was running. As for Giuliani being unpopular in the U.S....don't believe it. He's > 50% favorable in most "favorable/unfavorable" polls, though he's still down friom the > 60% rating he held a few years ago. Link (http://www.pollingreport.com/G.htm#Giuliani) That's right around where Hillary is (and his negatives aren't as high as hers). In the Time Magazine poll in March, Guiliani beat Hillary in a hypothetical head to head race 50% to 41%. Link (http://www.srbi.com/time_poll_arc39.html) The Democrats have a huge advantage in the generic poll (where no candidates are named), but as soon as you stick the names of any of the Democratic hopefuls into the equation, their lead fizzles. Hillary Clinton would suffer a savage beating if her opponent were "Hillary-With-A-Bag-Over-Her-Head." It's true Giuliani would not win New York, but it's been a Democratic stronghold for 2 decades now. leopold99 08-10-07, 04:36 PM Really? :eek: Doesn't she look like Yoda? http://xs318.xs.to/xs318/07325/Codoleeza-Yoda.jpg (http://xs.to) WAH! WHY YOU . . . asshole zanket 08-11-07, 02:09 AM I say Fred Thompson first choice, Clinton second. madanthonywayne 08-11-07, 02:25 AM I say Fred Thompson first choice, Clinton second. There's an odd couple. zanket 08-11-07, 02:40 AM If they go head-to-head in a debate, Clinton's screwed, even though Thompson might be worse than Bush. Lord Hillyer 08-11-07, 08:43 AM It is very discouraging to see so many enthusiastic endorsements of mainstream candidates. Are these choices motivated by a desire to 'pick a winner'? Democracy is such a bag of steaming refuse. That said, I expect Mr Bush to have a third term. My personal choice is either Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich. desi 08-11-07, 03:18 PM I'll vote for Ron Paul and we'll probably end up with Hillary. spidergoat 08-11-07, 04:51 PM WHY YOU . . . asshole I heard that!:D joepistole 08-12-07, 12:35 AM I am voting for Obama Girl TW Scott 08-12-07, 01:00 AM Hillary will win, then life will truly get interesting. Mainly becuase honestly, Paris Hilton would run a more reliable and responible government than Hillary will. pjdude1219 08-12-07, 01:15 AM Hillary will win, then life will truly get interesting. Mainly becuase honestly, Paris Hilton would run a more reliable and responible government than Hillary will. lay of the kool aid TW Scott 08-12-07, 03:51 AM lay of the kool aid I don't know what you put in your kool aid, and I really don't want to. draqon 08-12-07, 03:53 AM http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/Y/c/hillary_rambabe.jpg Lord Hillyer 08-12-07, 08:13 AM What do you mean? Hillary is a conservative. No one could possibly advocate the status quo more than she does. madanthonywayne 08-12-07, 12:46 PM What do you mean? Hillary is a conservative. No one could possibly advocate the status quo more than she does.LOL. I'll go you one better. Bush is too damn liberal! joepistole 08-12-07, 02:28 PM Acutually, the Democrats have been more Republican than the Republicans under the Clinton administrations (except for abortion). |