Here's a fun new game, boys and girls (http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=17366). If you'd like to play, find something new and incredibly fracked up our leaders are telling us, and the rest of the class can try to guess what cretin/collective of cretins said it. Me First!!

Or maybe an example from the link is best:

"With a healthy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects, I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them."

A) Tom Delay, revealing his secret strategy to keep Republican Members of Congress in line when they express concerns about the Bush administration's rampant deficit spending.
B) Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, on his feud with Colin Powell and the State Department.
C) Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger spokesman, H. D. Palmer, on cutting K-12 funding.
D) Lt. Colonel Nathan Sassaman, battalion commander of the forces occupying Abu Hishma, Iraq, explaining a plan to keep the village safe by encircling it in a wall of barbed wire.

Are you ready to Play? Don't forget to link your sources. Thanks to Will Durst (http://www.alternet.org/alsoby.html?Author=781) for the concept.

Here's my 1st attempt, and in true sciforums fashion, we can obviously be, um, liberal with the format:

"______________ said Libya had been close to making an atomic bomb. Details of Tripoli's weapons capabilities were vague."
A) Kirgzgzgzgistan
B) Nigeria
C) Leichtenstein
D) Britain

-Rueters (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4026473)

"Based on the circumstances of this incident, I believe there was not a sense that there was a need to inform him"

A) Presidential Psychologist Newton Finkelbean, remarking on recent adjustments to the President's medications.

B) "Curly" Marx, remarking on a flower pot that fell on Moe's head.

C) White House press secretary Scott McClellan, when questioned about the President's knowledge of an attack on Iraq Viceroy Bremer's Convoy.


Source: Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16371-2003Dec19.html)

"We know there are known knowns: there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns: that is to say we know there are things we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld during a briefing on Iraq.

I mean you can throw that anytime for anything :D

"I have my detractors in Washington. There are bastards who spread things around, of course, who planted nasty things in the media, not that I cared very much."

Hans Blix

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/12/blix.interview.cnna/index.html)

Originally posted by BlueMoose
"We know there are known knowns: there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns: that is to say we know there are things we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld during a briefing on Iraq.


And ripping it off from Gene Krantz's autobiography at the same time...

That's it! Thanks, Sparks- when that Rummy quote first went around, it was bugging me that I'd heardsomething like it before, somewhere I couldn't place. Now I know.

"There will always be some uncertainty about how quickly [Saddam] can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

__________???

Rumsfeld, ja?

Yes it is...let's do another:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

hmmm ____________?

Tony Blair? Is there a big pause after "Simply Stated", and then he goes rapid-fire through the rest like some jabbering limey primate?

"I'll beat the shit out of anyone who questions my patriotism."

Not even on the same continent my friend... no, no it was Colin Powell. Yes in the most definitive of terms, Iraq has WMD, no doubts here folks.

“My guess is that there are no weapons of mass destruction left. . . think many of the things that were said (about Iraq having them) were not sufficiently well-based."


_________???

:game show music:
Um, who is Colin Powell? (a spineless revision?)

Hey, what about my last Who the Hell Said That?!?

http://www.ifcnr.com/pictures/colin%20powell.jpg

There he is smiling and lying at the UN...

"I'll beat the shit out of anyone who questions my patriotism."

Someone actually said that? My guess... some crackpot general. :confused:

You are correct! According to CNN today, Wesley Clark got a little agitated yesterday and let fly (:. it must be true)

Nice shit-eating grin photo of another General I used to respect.

Weasley said he would beat the shiat out of anyone who questioned his patriotism. Saw it live on CSpan.

Thx 15, I'm going to go watch Wesley lose composure there now, I haven't heard or seen it directly yet. Why is everybody running for president, including Dean, a bit of a hothead?

Is a moron, he got his ass whooped when he was on "Inside Politics" , Judy asked him a question about the Iraq war... he used the pussy defence. Because he was in the Hague he wasn't going to talk about a "domestic matter" it wasn't "patriotic" to do so. :rolleyes: Seriously he should be Deans V.P candidate, he is not Presidential material...

I know Dean is known for his temper, much like McCain was four years ago. Clark is so new to this game that I think it's inevitable that he is going to have some gaffs along the trail. You have to wonder if Kerry's campaign might be on life support because he is so unflappable most of the time. He's certainly more accustomed to the national spotlight than some of the others but he just doesn't seem to make an impact with his message thus far in the process. I think people are really responding to Dean's cocksure attitude. He may come off as arrogant to some, but he seems very confident in himself.

IMHO he doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning the general election (see Mondale) but he's certainly shaking the Democratic party to its very core and that might be the wake up call needed to recussitate that party. You may not like him, but he is impossible to ignore.

"I will probably be found dead in the woods"

? (http://www.nonviolence.org/articles/000125.php)

Originally posted by hypewaders
"I will probably be found dead in the woods"

? (http://www.nonviolence.org/articles/000125.php)

Are we deliberately picking easy quotes?
okay...

"Hold it! The Schwarzenegger Library?"
"Yes, the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library. Wasn't he an actor?"
"Stop! He was President?"
"Yes. Even though he was not born in this country, his popularity at the time caused the 61st Amendment…"

"I believe that gay marriage should be between a man and woman"

???????????

It sounds like something Dan Quayle would say.

No, but rest assured it was a republican.

"If our nation can spend 35 billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and 20 billion dollars a year to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth."

"I believe that gay marriage should be between a man and woman"
George Bush Jr.

"If our nation can spend 35 billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and 20 billion dollars a year to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth."
Martin Luther King.
(And he was right, but he forgot to point out that it's not an either/or situation when it comes to funding domestic problems and the space programme).

Yes, MLK, Sparks. I don't think Dr. King would say that "both" is the best option. He might say we can all reach for the stars together, and sooner than we might think by following present misleaders.

Listen to Dr. King (http://www.bushflash.com/mlk.html)

Dr Kelly, shortly before he was err 'found dead in the woods'.

Here's another...

"I'm not reading this. This is Bullshit!"

??
Dee Cee

Quote:
"I believe that gay marriage should be between a man and woman"

George Bush Jr

No Arrrrnold... terminating California as we speak.

"I'm not reading this. This is Bullshit!"

-Colin Powell, before addressing the UN, right?

"I may be the only mother in America who knows exactly what their child is up to all the time."

Although this is from someone in a previous US Admin. It is remains significant and unforgetable.

"I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it."

"I may be the only mother in America who knows exactly what their child is up to all the time."

Barbara Bush?

Colin Powell, before addressing the UN, right?
Correct. During a CIA intel brief I think.

Here's another easy one.

"Right before it I said, as the President said and right after it I said as the President said. I was simply repeating what the President had said."

??
Dee Cee

"I may be the only mother in America who knows exactly what their child is up to all the time."

Barbara Bush?

that (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/barbarabus125576.html) is correct!

how about this classic:

"We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America."

Can't remember her name DS, but that was the US ambassador in Iraq two weeks before Iraq invaded Kuwait in '91.

One of my personal favourites:

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

"We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts..."

-April Glaspie, US Ambassador to Iraq under Bush I.

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

.. and yes Hype that was April Glaspie. (I feel rediculous quizing you since you were probably the one who showed me (us) that link (http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html) )

"War is a tremendous focus... Now we have this focusing opportunity, and we have the fact that [terrorists] have actually attacked our homeland, which gives it some oomph."

? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3419715.stm)

"The Spaniards are courageous people. I mean, we know it from their whole culture of bullfighting."

?? (http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/04/3/20/18367800.cfm)

Peter Shoomaker
Believe it or not, there's actually some good news coming out of Iraq. According to General Peter Shoomaker, the head of the US Army, "There is a huge silver lining in this cloud." Oh yeah? Yeah. Apparently the fact that the Army is actually at war is a "tremendous focus" for those in the military. "There's got to be a certain appetite for what the hell we exist for," said Shoomaker. Uh, okay. See, according to Shoomaker, "War is a tremendous focus... Now we have this focusing opportunity, and we have the fact that [terrorists] have actually attacked our homeland, which gives it some oomph."

:D Yes- War is Great- Troops love it! Woohoo! :D

also recently:


"Some in the media have chosen to use the word 'imminent' [pertaining to Ba'athist Iraq's military threat to the United States]. Those were not words we used."

?? (http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=24970)

Same Person, earlier occasion (http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=24970):

"This is about imminent threat."

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"Well, you're the--you and a few other critics are the only people I've heard use the phrase "immediate threat." I didn't. The president didn't. And it's become kind of folklore that that's--that's what's happened. The president went... I--I can't speak for nobody--everybody in the administration and say nobody said that."

?? (http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/000157.html)

Donald Rumsfeld

:ding: You are correct!

The first 2 quotes above the ---- are from White House Propaganda Minister Scott McClellan.

"The American cowboy is rearing the fruits of crime against humanity."

Hmm...? My who could have said that? :D

Boy George?

"No, no, no. We don't have to deal with al Qaeda. Why are we talking about that little guy? We have to talk about Iraqi terrorism against the United States."

???? (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml)

No it was Boy George it was good ole Saddam.

Good one- ole silver-tounged Saddam.

"Today, political campaigns are the graveyard of real ideas and the birthplace of empty promises."

???? (http://www.thenation.com/edcut/index.mhtml?bid=7)

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet"

"A zebra does not change its spots."
:p

"We can build a collective civic space large enough for all our separate identities, that we can be e pluribus unum -- out of one, many."
:D

"No, no, no. We don't have to deal with al Qaeda. Why are we talking about that little guy? We have to talk about Iraqi terrorism against the United States."

Paul Wolfowitz

"Our coalition has no interest in occupation."
? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1197174,00.html)

On the senate floor: "Go fuck yourself!"

? (http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=536192&section=news) ? (http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007043.html)

CHENEY! What a guy!

“I’m an internationalist. “I’d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations.”

________________________????

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."


_____________________???

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."


_________________________?????

A bunch of liars!

John Kerry :D

LOL! Not surprised... but to John's defense the US military, central intelligence agency were telling them that Iraq did have WMD, Kerry himself was lied to too. Was he being part of the ignorant masses, yup but also being politically prudent remember to vote against the war at the time would be seen as being “un-American” (when in reality the opposite seems to be true) But Kerry has changed his stance once the real facts of the story were let out, too bad Bush is too much of a ideologue to change.

I'll let Kerry slide on his Iraq quotes. He's a politician so what can you expect? They are all cocksucking liars who will do anything to get themselves elected.
His Veitnam statements are a whole different story.

They are all cocksucking liars who will do anything to get themselves elected.

That’s why I have a great distaste for democracies…

His Veitnam statements are a whole different story.

He served in the war, he every right to say what he did. At least he was in Vietnam, Cheney dodged (as did Clinton to be fair), and Bush was AWOL from his ever so dangerous National Guard duty…scary.

"When the people flex their muscles, then the state gets much stronger."









? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1344566,00.html)