View Full Version : Who's the greatest 19th century poet and why


nbachris2788
10-31-04, 09:57 PM
And go!

sargentlard
10-31-04, 10:11 PM
Edgar Allen Poe

and you go!

cosmictraveler
10-31-04, 10:18 PM
Bob Dylan

Because he sang about and still sings about real life felings and things that happen to us all.

sargentlard
10-31-04, 10:24 PM
Avril Lavigne....she understands me so well, its like she has felt what I have felt. Incredible artist.

Tiassa
10-31-04, 10:39 PM
So much for the nineteenth century.

Anyway, I'll say Emily Dickinson, but only on the grounds that you can sing (almost) any one of her poems to the "Gilligan's Island Theme".

nbachris2788
10-31-04, 11:02 PM
Cosmictraveler,

I can't tell if you're kidding or not, but I meant 19th century, not the 1900s.

For my input, I think I'd have to say that Tennyson is my favourite 19th century poet. When I first glanced over the Charge of the Light Brigade, it looked like a bunch of fragmented sentences with a rhyme or two. But then I read it aloud and it was so full of action! I also love Morte d'Arthur and the Lady of Shalott. Those are the only three I've read, so Tennyson's batting 1.000.

I also enjoy Coleridge, but that's only based on Kubla Khan. Of all the poems I've read, that opening stanza has the most memorable rhyme and meter: "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan, A stately pleasure dome decree, Where Alph the sacred river ran, Through caverns measureless to man, Down to a sunless sea". Of course, I haven't figured out what it is supposed to mean... Some have said that it is about artistry and creativity, but if it can be about that, then it can be about anything you want.

True or false? Poetry must be read aloud to be enjoyed.

Thersites
11-01-04, 07:33 AM
True or false? Poetry must be read aloud to be enjoyed.
Not necessarily: much poetry sounds better with our inner mental voice; the only reason to read aloud is to slow down emough to understand properly.
A few more candidates with recommendations: Wordsworth. At his best a very good poet- read The Excursion, The Prelude his sonnets and Tintern Abbey.
Coleridge: add The Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Christabel and The Lime Tree Bower my Shade to your reading list.
Byron: one of the greatest comic poets in English. Unfortunately, he kept trying to write serious- solemn- verse. Read Don Juan and A Vision of Judgment.
Shelley. Not my cup of tea, but many like him: Prometheus Unbound, The Cenci
Blake: Songs of Innocenve and Experience. If you're going to be a fanatical Blakean you need to dedicate your life to the Prophetic Books.
Barham- no, not great, but The Ingoldsby Legends are very funny.
Browning: The Ring and the Book is the greatest crime novel in English. REad his dramatic monologues.
Tennyson: the one to read is In Memoriam
George Meredith: his Modern Love is a grim psychological sonnet sequence: a study of the breakdown of his marriage
Matthew Arnold- Dover Beach of course [google HECHT and THE DOVER BITCH for another view], Sohrab and Rustum, The Scholar Gipsy.
Clough: the master of Englkish hexameters: Amours de Voyage
Whitman: the great poet of democracy.
Hopkins: a technical innovator who probably had more influence [for better or worse] than any of the others.
Yeats, Kipling, Hardy, Housman are probably more twentieth than nineteenth century.
I've probably forgotten umpteen others.

cosmictraveler
11-02-04, 08:24 AM
Just kidding.... ;)

Walt Whitman because of his close bond to nature.


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Insanely Elite
11-02-04, 05:41 PM
Yeah, I'll go with Poe.

Quoth the raven. Annabell lee.
His discourse on the importance of rhyme is inspired.
His short stories often rise to the level of poetry.

My favorite poem though is Whitman's "O captain, my captain"

Demunlady
11-08-04, 03:34 PM
I think it's both Edgar Allan Poe and Jim Morrison... hmmm and myself of course... I will soon be posting my writing!

D

Insanely Elite
11-08-04, 05:47 PM
I had to recheck the thread title when I saw your post Demunlady.
This is for the 19th century. I would not have forgotten Mr. Mojorissen on my list of 20th century favorite poets. "No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn"

Demunlady
11-10-04, 11:43 AM
I had to recheck the thread title when I saw your post Demunlady.
This is for the 19th century. I would not have forgotten Mr. Mojorissen on my list of 20th century favorite poets. "No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn"

Opps! Well it's all the same to me... since we are all reincarnates from other centuries anyhow! So I still stick by what I posted although in human terms it is wrong... :rolleyes: and I understand.

Insanely Elite
11-10-04, 06:33 PM
Opps! Well it's all the same to me... since we are all reincarnates from other centuries anyhow! So I still stick by what I posted although in human terms it is wrong... :rolleyes: and I understand.

Are you saying your'e not human? :cool:
I nearly weaved the reincarnation question into my previous post but did not want to broach the subject.
Since you have, do you remember any 'past life' memories?
I see the reincarnation issue as more like concurrent realities.
It's like our early childhood, outside of conscious memory yet affecting our current lives. Occasionally we remember glimpses of this 'other life' of childhood. Yet we really never left it.

To keep this on the subject,

Life and Death

The two old, simple problems ever intertwined,
Close home, elusive, present, baffled, grappled.
By each succesive age insoluble, pass'd on,
To ours to-day-and we pass on the same.

-Walt Whitman

Demunlady
11-12-04, 12:12 PM
Are you saying your'e not human? :cool:
I nearly weaved the reincarnation question into my previous post but did not want to broach the subject.
Since you have, do you remember any 'past life' memories?
I see the reincarnation issue as more like concurrent realities.
It's like our early childhood, outside of conscious memory yet affecting our current lives. Occasionally we remember glimpses of this 'other life' of childhood. Yet we really never left it.

To keep this on the subject,

Life and Death

The two old, simple problems ever intertwined,
Close home, elusive, present, baffled, grappled.
By each succesive age insoluble, pass'd on,
To ours to-day-and we pass on the same.

-Walt Whitman

Well sometimes I don't feel as human as others around me... because mainly I don't think I feel or think like other people and people I know don't understand me... I do remember previous lives... the most vivid soul memories I have are of being a native woman and living my life in a village... I remember it like I do memories of this life... I remember giving birth, although I've never have given birth in this life...
I do feel that some of us are older than others... despite our ages...
Anyway I am not sure if I answered your questions properly...?
Most of the time I feel beyond this world and that is where I struggle the most because I can't get beyond this world...

D

cosmictraveler
11-12-04, 12:20 PM
"Most of the time I feel beyond this world and that is where I struggle the most because I can't get beyond this world..."

That doesn't make any sense. How can you say that? Are you speaking about phsyically being tied to Earth but mentally tied to thoughts of the beyond like astral projection?

Demunlady
11-12-04, 12:25 PM
"Most of the time I feel beyond this world and that is where I struggle the most because I can't get beyond this world..."

That doesn't make any sense. How can you say that? Are you speaking about phsyically being tied to Earth but mentally tied to thoughts of the beyond like astral projection?

I am speaking spiritually and emotionally... and it doesn't make much sense to me either...

cosmictraveler
11-13-04, 09:42 AM
I am speaking spiritually and emotionally... and it doesn't make much sense to me either...


Both spirit and emotions are mental thoughts so they are not of this earth but only exist in your mind. You control, to a defree, those thoughts and emotions. When you lose control all you need do is find out where they went wrong and get them back to where you want them. Meditation is one way to do that and there are other ways also.

Dreamwalker
11-13-04, 01:45 PM
I am the greates 19th century poet. Why? Because I did not write any poems.

Really, I cannot think of one good poet from that century...

whitewolf
11-13-04, 02:24 PM
Emily Bronte was great. Dreamy.

Demunlady
11-16-04, 11:27 AM
Both spirit and emotions are mental thoughts so they are not of this earth but only exist in your mind. You control, to a defree, those thoughts and emotions. When you lose control all you need do is find out where they went wrong and get them back to where you want them. Meditation is one way to do that and there are other ways also.

Well I disagree with you to a point... I think for myself, spirit has an independant mind and set of emotions... that are seperate from my physical body. Meditation is a way that body and spirit to come closer together when we feel "disconnected"

D

Insanely Elite
11-18-04, 10:18 PM
O CAPTAIN! MY CAPTAIN!

O Captain! my Captain! our fearful trip is done,
The ship has wheather'd every rack, the prize we sought was won,
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring,
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

O Captain! My Captain! Rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up-for you the flag is flung-for you the bugle trills,
For you the boquets and ribbon'd wreaths-for you the shores acrowding,
For you they call, the swaying mass, for you their eager faces turning,
Here Captain! Dear father!
The arm beneath your head!
It is some dream that on the deck,
You've fallen cold and dead.

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and stale,
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will,
The ship is anchored safe and sound, it's voyage closed and done,
From fearful trip the victor ship comes in with object won:
Exult O shores, and ring O bells,
But I with mournful tread,
Will walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Walt Whitman

Ophiolite
11-26-04, 07:12 AM
Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It has to be. [Can't wait till we get to the 20th - so I can vote for T.S.Elliot - as you can see I just like the initials ST or TS]

mickeyboy
11-28-04, 09:28 AM
guys the 19th century was 1800 to 1899 so bob dylan and co were not even thought of

Megg
11-29-04, 01:09 PM
Surprised no one has mentioned Arthur Rimbaud. He was so far ahead of his time and, some say, inspired the rock generation and musicians. He was so young when he wrote. It is amazing.
His lover, Paul Verlaine was a great poet as well.