I would like to know who thinks NASA or (one of) its sub group is conducting research on 'Alien' technology. Why do you believe so?

I have a chip in my arse that lets them control my thoughts.

Theres nothing to say they aren't

There's nothing to say an invisible purple squid-rhino hybrid doesn't live at the bottom of the ocean. But you don't see me believing that without any proof.

Yes, but you don't have any proof against it. It's possible theres one of 'whatever you said'.

Exactly, my claim does not deserve to be called valid though as I had zero evidence to back it up. It's just something I'd like to believe.

Personally i don't think NASA is too underfunded and incomepetent to hide alien technology.

Its entirely possible. I don't see anyone saying 'I've got evidence to prove against it'. With government agencies today, I wouldn't be surprised if NASA went down the same road as many others.

Nasa = low budget and unfunding.
If they had 'alien technology' they would have patented it and would be selling it to the highest bidder to make some money. Although, i cant proove they dont have alien technology. I have an open mind on this subject, although, it does'nt really bother me.

Are you asking because former employee Richard Hoagland is currently suing NASA for witholding FOIA requests?

Personally, I think that if NASA found anything remotely indicating alien life that they would have to pass it to the goverment from which it gets its funding. (There is most likely some sort of catch-clause for such an event for accepting the funds) Our government would naturally slap a national security clause on any info while they figure out how to take advantage of any knowledge that was obtained. I think that would be about as far as NASA would go in keeping general secrets of such nature.

Those who believe in conspiracies at every corner will not agree. They are long on accusations and speculations and short on proof. (Of course those who they see as the problem are also conspirators to prevent them from gaining knowledge. Strange coincidence isn't it.)

I would say that the proof rests on those making the accusations. Otherwise it is just smoke and mirrors.

So the thread should be 'Who believes the Government or a subgroup of is hiding alien technology?'

Where's Fox_Mulder when you need him?

Anyhoo, NASA is probably hiding a lot of stuff, but it's military designs, not alien technology. I mean, what's the point of covering it up if they had it? Half the people in the US think that there are aliens, and the other half doesn't give a hoot 'n hollar if there are or not.

I believe in aliens. Theres no reason not to. Whether they've come to this planet is a different story.

Military designs, I'm assuming you mean stuff like the Stealth Bomber and the F22 Raptor.

NASA is hiding things. Definitly.
Like all my sewing needles.
And the mate to one of my favorite pairs of socks.
And a book I borrowed on the history of the concept of Antichrist.
AND ALL MY BEER!

they got all your beer? how do you live?
anyways, the title of the thread should be 'who is a conspiracy nut and thinks everything is a conspiracy?'.
I mean, what's the point of covering it up if they had it? Half the people in the US think that there are aliens, and the other half doesn't give a hoot 'n hollar if there are or not.
the point of covering it up would be to not cause mass-panic which could have some very serious consequences. But i dont believe they do, so there! :D

Er Tyler, I've just realised something about that big purply thing. It invisible, how can you find it?

What tickles me is about these people (Hoagland, Lazar et al)claiming NASA are hiding some big secret is that no one tries to silence them. I mean, come on, if you where privy to a great, big, fat, hairy secret of that importance you'd have the spooks crawling all over you constantly. Any attempt to leave the project would be quoshed. Even if you esaped and went public, they'd have you removed so fast no one would realise you even tried anything.

Any way, why NASA? I thought they where ostensibly a public body but historically reporting to Government. A throw back to Cold War days. If any one has secret tech it would be the secret services and DARPA. And at that it's mundane, better radar or bigger/better satellite surveillance. A friend of mine was working on state of the art 3D modelling of the battle field some years ago. That was 'secret'.

Maybe thats their plan. Don't silence them. If they allow people to speak out, people will say what you just said thus voiding the statments against them. Very clever, but very risky

i'm just wondering what is this thread doing under Philosophy chapter!?:eek:

it is doing under this chapter because qfrontier posted it in the philosophy section and the moderator has not moved it. Does this answer your question?

The Moderator already moved it a little while back. All you have to do is look under what Forum it is now...;)

dang...the sarcasm did not work. :( lol. :D

Well, I was not acting from out a conspiracy angle Captain Crunch. However...:p

Fredis; You can't prove it. But you can't disprove it. See the problem? Now you have to make a choice; do you give any validity to the claim. I claim something that cannot be proven or disproven, do you take me seriously?

Because my claim is so stupid most people will say; no, of course not you idiot. Replace the invisible purple squid-rhino hybrid part with 'God' and all of a sudden people think it's any more reliable. There's no proof either way. But there's nothing to suggest it's even probable. Some people will always believe what they want to believe, others will always say they don't know, and the rest of us have half a brain.

While to most of our members, it is a useless point to argue...as I was reading this thread, I realized why there are people who believe the way they do. My thinking....

A part of our culture is, we watch movies and TV series like Stargate where they keep the information secret from the public. The Stargate and other military related stories usually have consultants from the real military or related organizations. I am yet to hear a consultant argue to a writer that this secret stuff is not natural in this day and age. So...it looks like Life imitates art to a lot of people and the culture continues.

havent watched a single epi of stargate

It wouldn't surprise me if NASA had something to hide, but I have no proof one way of the other. If the lost Mars Observer was nothing more than a converted communicaitons satilite, then obviously NASA needs cash BADLY.

I love Stargate and will kill anyone who puts it down:D

Shows like that get ppl thinking and shows to us that these things could be happening.

Anyway, Carter is confusing. how'd she get so smart