there is alot of fighting on both sides of the ideological lines on this site, and so i was surprised to see that NOONE had created an opinion poll on the subject of israel/arab relations.

question: who is primarily to be considered the aggressor in respect to creating military conflict in the middle east?

please do not hijack this thread with petty quibbling.

Easy answer Iran & syria, who are moving there puppets lebanon, palestine, & israel with consumate ease, there all jumping around killing eachother, while there puppet masters in iran & syria, have a good & satisfying wank over it all.

It's a bit more complicated than that. If the British Empire had partitioned the Middle East a bit more sensibly the current situation would be a lot less messy.

Israel, in my opinion shouldn't even fucking be there.

Right now to me it looks like the bad guys are Israel and the yanks ("You can't have any nukes but we, the sole nation to have ever employed a nuclear weapon, and against women and children at that, can, just because we say so. In fact we can sell you WMDs and then invade you twenty years later for having WMDs") from yankmerica. However, the arab countries are certainly making a complete arse out of being the good guys, so there really isn't any good guy....but at least we know who the bad guys are.

It's a bit more complicated than that. If the British Empire had partitioned the Middle East a bit more sensibly the current situation would be a lot less messy.

Israel, in my opinion shouldn't even fucking be there.

Right now to me it looks like the bad guys are Israel and the yanks. However, the arab countries are certainly making a complete arse out of being the good guys, so there really isn't any good guy....but at least we know who the bad guys are.

The fire is all over the middle east, so is the terroism, u can not blame the brits for that.

The brits left the palestine because the jews started blowing us up with terroism, after the second world war, we were sick of wars & bombs & left the jews & arabs to blow eachother up, which they are still doing today.

Its not the brits to blame, its the infantile belief that blowing people up gets your birthday wish, just because the jews achieved it with us, now every terroist around the world follows suit, but the reality is nobody gives into terroism in there own country.

U.S. and Brits. They're the ones that messed with the whole Middle East creating the warring nations and also always sticking their noses in their business, removing their leaders by coup de tat and installing worse leaders. We love playing games there. Heck, we also love to arm both sides of their conflicts!

Next comes Israel, the child of the U.S. and Brits.

- N

U.S. and Brits. They're the ones that messed with the whole Middle East creating the warring nations and also always sticking their noses in their business, removing their leaders by coup de tat and installing worse leaders. We love playing games there. Heck, we also love to arm both sides of their conflicts!

Next comes Israel, the child of the U.S. and Brits.

- N

Now come on!!!!!!!!!
neeedler Neildo, take that back!!!!!
Israel is no child of the uk, there is no jewish vote in the uk to be had, we dont pamper to the jews, infact the jews dont even like us, they only visit us once or twice a year, to humour bush who tells them if they want more sugar from there sugar daddy they have to pretend to listen to tony blair & his visions of a unified middle east, they go back to israel laughing & get another fat cheque from bush for there troubles.

After the second world war, the brits were favouring the arabs not the jews, as they helped us in the war.
The jews bombed us out of palestine.



"removing their leaders by coup de tat and installing worse leaders"

Britain has had next to know say in any muslim leader anywhere, afer the 2nd world war, america was the super power, america called the tune.

America's history in latin america, & africa & asia & the middle east is appalling, with the exception of the phillopines, i can not think of one country they made better from there interventions.

The uk's history of interventions has created some very powerful players, singapore, hong kong, and now india.

Neildo, as much as i like your country dont tar us with the same brush.

If I answer the question in the thread's title rather than the one in the post with the poll, "Who are the bad guys in the Middle East?" the answer is: everybody. No matter how good you might have been when you started, once you descend to the level of believing that two wrongs will somehow miraculously make a right, you're bad.

i voted for all of them, personally.

i voted for all of them, personally.

So did i but i missed out the 5th option, unlike u, if i had voted for that one, the other votes would have been pointless

You really need to get your shit together devil, & stay out of the UK thats gods chosen land, & chosen people.

i didnt vote for the "none of the above", obviously.

i have no desire to see the uk, but thanks for the lovely sentiment.
i even live about 120 miles from england...probably wont go.

but do i have permission to use heathrow?

i didnt vote for the "none of the above", obviously.

i have no desire to see the uk, but thanks for the lovely sentiment.
i even live about 120 miles from england...probably wont go.

but do i have permission to use heathrow?


If you need to use heathrow as a stop over, i have no objections, but please notify me of your flight plan & arrival, so i can arrange armed police to keep u amused while you wait for your onward plane.

Are u from belgium, i went there once full of booze & flys & the whole country seems as if its in a coma, there certainly seems no stress there, i would certainly recommend it to any florida pensioners posting here, or new york ones like neildo, who are going senile, & have there knickers in a twist,

If you need to use heathrow as a stop over, i have no objections, but please notify me of your flight plan & arrival, so i can arrange armed police to keep u amused while you wait for your onward plane.

Are u from belgium, i went there once full of booze & flys & the whole country seems as if its in a coma, there certainly seems no stress there, i would certainly recommend it to any florida pensioners posting here, or new york ones like neildo, who are going senile, & have there knickers in a twist,

i live in belgium, but i am american....

yeah...booze, beer, and a comatose population. i specifically like the laid back quality of life here, but i happen to HATE belgians in general...

go figure.
*shrug*

You know who the real terrorist is? Religion. Lets face it. If there was no such thing as religion there would be no such thing as fanatacism and there would be a hell of a lot less fighting. If there was no such thing of religion then people will be good for the sake of being good and the sake of each other. Just Imagine, no such thing as religion, Israel living beside it's brothers and sisters in peace and harmony. In my opinion the only religion that should be spelled with a capital letter is Science.!!!

israel WILL cause world war III

troll alert.

israel WILL cause world war III

It's funny that you say that. I just finished reading a book about WW3. It's called Down to a Sunless Sea by David Graham. Who started that war? why it was the Israelis of course.

You know who the real terrorist is? Religion. Lets face it. If there was no such thing as religion there would be no such thing as fanatacism and there would be a hell of a lot less fighting. If there was no such thing of religion then people will be good for the sake of being good and the sake of each other. Just Imagine, no such thing as religion, Israel living beside it's brothers and sisters in peace and harmony. In my opinion the only religion that should be spelled with a capital letter is Science.!!!

If there was no such thing as religion there would also be about 100 times more crime in the world.

Probably one of the reasons the people in power thought up "heaven" and "hell".

unless we replace heaven and hell with public displays of torture. In my opinion someone being scared of that is better than being scared of going to hell.

unless we replace heaven and hell with public displays of torture. In my opinion someone being scared of that is better than being scared of going to hell.

Does not work. I've seen public beheadings in KSA for drug trafficking. Just makes them more careful; no one ever thinks he is going to get caught.

True. Bring back public floggings....fuck, we could charge to let people watch.

If I was in charge that's what I'd do to those little pricks who take the muffler off their car so they can wank over how loud their engine is.

Then I'd have their car crushed into a cube in front of them.

Yes Yes. that just gave me a good idea. People have to pay to watch these displays of torture, the money that will be raised will go to fighting crime more effectively. Who's with me?

Yes Yes. that just gave me a good idea. People have to pay to watch these displays of torture, the money that will be raised will go to fighting crime more effectively. Who's with me?

maybe we should kill the sick fucks who would actually go to watch it

Thats not even the worst part; the worst part is they bring the heads and bodies back to the hospital and then stitch them back together. Uggh! I remember one time this doctor dropped a head... :eek:

thats the sought of thing that gives arabs bad names

But they have a low crime rate, just the limited drug trafficking. The only thing people go to prison for is corruption and defaulted debts; the prisons are quite empty.

thats the sought of thing that gives arabs bad names

LOL....spot the english accent ;)

hehe :D