Have you ever wondered why:

1) The USA uses the eagle as a symbol, as did Rome and NAZI Germany?
2) There is the pyramid and the eye on our money?
3) Our main government building is a pentagram?
4) Australia's capital city is designed like one big energy-siphon, centered around their parliament building?
5) A few small families command the greater portion of the world's wealth?
6) Rupert Murdoch is buying EVERYTHING?

The answer is simple. These dark forces I have been talking about, they get into power, shape the world to focus energies and thoughts in ways that will add to their control over us.

This is happening all over the world!

The War On Terror? It IS a war on terror! We are lucky that there are still people in power who know what is going on. In some states in the Middle East, the governments are ENTIRELY controlled by these demons!

Pardon the lag in my response time, Foxy, but I was too busy collapsed on the floor, giggling hysterically.

"1) The USA uses the eagle as a symbol, as did Rome and NAZI Germany?"

Eagles are groovy.

"2) There is the pyramid and the eye on our money?"

It's a Masonic symbol. Lots of the founding fathers were Masons.

"3) Our main government building is a pentagram?"

Oh, that's because the Cthulhu Cult controls the government - to an extent.

"4) Australia's capital city is designed like one big energy-siphon, centered around their parliament building?"

I do wonder about that, after a long night combining Vodka and peyote.

"5) A few small families command the greater portion of the world's wealth?"

It's the economy, stupid! Ever heard of capitalism?

"6) Rupert Murdoch is buying EVERYTHING?"

Rupert Murdoch is being controlled by the Cthulhu Cult. We want him to buy everything, so he does.

Pardon the lag in my response time, Foxy, but I was too busy collapsed on the floor, giggling hysterically.

This is NOT funny!

Eagles are groovy.

Is that the REAL reason why?

It's a Masonic symbol. Lots of the founding fathers were Masons.

Bingo, Xev! I knew your eyes were beginning to open!

Oh, that's because the Cthulhu Cult controls the government - to an extent.

Are you serious? Why do you reveal this?

It's the economy, stupid! Ever heard of capitalism?

Is this why all the world's financial leaders are all related?

Rupert Murdoch is being controlled by the Cthulhu Cult. We want him to buy everything, so he does.

You reveal this - why?

er

about number 4

its centred around parliament because that is the whole reason the ACT (Australias capital teritory) exists to HOLD parliment

there was a big fight between melborne and sydney about who should have fedral parliment

in the end they dicided NITHER would and made a teritory about half way between

THAT is why cambra is designed the way it is

I've been to Canberra. If you'd been there you'd realise it's not much of an energy siphon.

:)

not with the politions there its not :D

what a wast of oxygen:D

Is that the REAL reason why?

Eagles are a symbol of power and strength, an image that nations like to project. So yes, that is the real reason.

Bingo, Xev! I knew your eyes were beginning to open!

Yeah, enough coffee and they'll do that.

Are you serious? Why do you reveal this?

'Cuz Cthulhu asks me to.

Is this why all the world's financial leaders are all related?

A: They aren't
B: Inbreeding.

'Cuz Cthulhu asks me to.

And do you always do what this "Cthulhu" asks you to do?

A: They aren't
B: Inbreeding.

Many are. It is because they are easier to control that way.

Asguard:
about number 4

its centred around parliament because that is the whole reason the ACT (Australias capital teritory) exists to HOLD parliment

there was a big fight between melborne and sydney about who should have fedral parliment

in the end they dicided NITHER would and made a teritory about half way between

THAT is why cambra is designed the way it is

That is not why.

Actully YES,

it IS the reason

Cambra ONLY exists to have parliment there

there is no other purpose for it

everything else thats there could be housed else where

lets see in cambra you have

Parliment
Old parliment house
the national war museam
the embassys

You see everything there is centred around parliment because ITS THE CAPITAL

It is NOT a trading city like Melborune
its not major population centre like ANY of the state capitals

its just there for parliment and is desined the best for the politions and public servants

"And do you always do what this "Cthulhu" asks you to do?"

Depends on what he asks me to do and how nicely he asks. :p

"Many are. It is because they are easier to control that way."

Oh damn! You've caught us Cthulhu cultists again!

"its just there for parliment and is desined the best for the politions and public servants"

Asguard explained it to you, Foxy. Now go rant about demons and vampires.

Asguard: Are you ensnared by this "Cthulhu" as well? Why?

Xev:
Depends on what he asks me to do and how nicely he asks.

What might he ask you to do that you would not do?

Oh damn! You've caught us Cthulhu cultists again!

Yes, and I will STOP this Cthulhu!

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ops wrong cult

*sheepish look*

Sorry

Aye, Ia-R'yleh haf'hrdn Asguard! Cthulhu fhtagn!

"Asguard: Are you ensnared by this "Cthulhu" as well? Why?"

He wanted to be high priest and promised his allegiance to our Cult.

You can too, Foxy.....we're always looking for new members. When the stars come right, Cthulhu's loyal followers will awaken him, and he will lead the earth to an ecstacy of freedom and hedonistic bliss that it has never yet known.

Just think....an eternity in R'yleh....no more 'country-western'.....

"What might he ask you to do that you would not do? "

Like, this one time, Cthulhu had a sudden craving for Ben and Jerry's Cookie Dough ice cream, and he yelled:

"Xev, get me some Ben and Jerry's Cookie Dough ice cream!"

And that was rude, because I was busy and he didn't ask politely. So I yelled back:

"Fuck you, Great Old One, get off your lazy, elderich ass and get your own goddamned ice cream!"

And he did.

of corse i gave my soul to the great one

he will destroy country and westen and i would worship ANYONE who would get rid of that and line dancing

I seem to have proven my origional point....

Xev:
You can too, Foxy.....we're always looking for new members. When the stars come right, Cthulhu's loyal followers will awaken him, and he will lead the earth to an ecstacy of freedom and hedonistic bliss that it has never yet known.

I will NEVER worship the Demon-God Cthulhu!

Asguard:

he will destroy country and westen and i would worship ANYONE who would get rid of that and line dancing

Will Cthulhu destroy MICROSUCKS? NO!

NEVER

WE ARE INVINCABLE

WE WILL OWN THE WORLD

No you will not! Cthulhu will be overthrown by the power of JESUS!

I will start a thread somwhere else on Cthulhu and Jesus....I must go now.

"I will NEVER worship the Demon-God Cthulhu!"

Yes....you will....you wish to.....Cthulhu is great.....Cthulhu loves you.....with Cthulhu there is a debauched ecstacy you have never before known.....follow Cthulhu.......

"Will Cthulhu destroy MICROSUCKS?"

Yes, he will destroy M$ with his sorcery, and he shall bring a OS that is neither Linux nor BSD, but that shall triumph over all elephantine programming.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Ia! Ia-R'yleh! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

"No you will not! Cthulhu will be overthrown by the power of JESUS!"

No.....Jesus is dead.......there is no God.....Cthulhu loves you....follow Cthulhu......

"I will start a thread somwhere else on Cthulhu and Jesus....I must go now."

Join us, FoxMulder. You know you wish to. You know you will be happy with Cthulhu. There is nothing holding you back but your pride...

<I>Have you ever wondered why:

1) The USA uses the eagle as a symbol, as did Rome and NAZI Germany?
2) There is the pyramid and the eye on our money?
3) Our main government building is a pentagram?
4) Australia's capital city is designed like one big energy-siphon, centered around their parliament building?
5) A few small families command the greater portion of the world's wealth?
6) Rupert Murdoch is buying EVERYTHING? </I>

Here are my answers:

1) It has Sumerian and babylon symbols. Why? that's easy to answer:
<B>Like the Reich, The US has massive contacts with the so-called "Grey" aliens.
Hitler had contacts with them, of course. They're evil.
The US Gov. knows it just now. It's maybe too late,
but good aliens and beings are helping us and trying as much as they can to protect us from the Greys, not letting them getting in to Earth. </B>

Have u ever heard of the "Endereason Family" Case?
Dr. Harold J.Edelstein conducted her hypnosis progress. She told the TRUTH.
Betty saw greys (25.1.1967) in her house, eagles painted on their shoulders.
Their leader took her to a spaceship, and she had taken to another world, <B> where she saw a big eagle sitting in front of her. That creature transformed itself to a phoenix and told Betty:
"You saw and listened. Do u understand it?"
"No, I don't understand anything at all. Why am I here?"
"I've chosen you"
"What's the objective?"
"I've chosen you for teaching the mankind"
"Are you the Lord God?"
"I'll show you when the right time arrives"
Then It disappeared and Betty was taken back to Earth.
</B>

<I>"I've chosen you for teaching the mankind"</I>-
for teaching what?
Teaching us to behave better?

2) I don't understand this question, FoxMulder.

3)No, it isn't.

4) No. The main one is located in Antarctica.

5) Hmmmm. It's the Governments fault. but my answer is: yes.

6) :) I don't know this man...


Groove on,

Love u all,
Gil Weinstein.

Xev:
Yes....you will....you wish to.....Cthulhu is great.....Cthulhu loves you.....with Cthulhu there is a debauched ecstacy you have never before known.....follow Cthulhu.......

NO NEVER YOU CANNOT!

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Ia! Ia-R'yleh! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

YOUR SPELLS WILL NOT WORK ON ME!

Gil_W:
1) It has Sumerian and babylon symbols. Why? that's easy to answer:
Like the Reich, The US has massive contacts with the so-called "Grey" aliens.
Hitler had contacts with them, of course. They're evil.
The US Gov. knows it just now. It's maybe too late,
but good aliens and beings are helping us and trying as much as they can to protect us from the Greys, not letting them getting in to Earth.

YES! Now, I ask you:

Who are these "Greys"?

Xev. Cthulhu asked me the other day to do his laundry.

Stupid ass.

Who are these "Greys"?

Their little creatures that were invented in the realms of someones sick mind. And then the stories spread and so did the sightings. Give me 1 CREDIBLE witness of a grey or alien - and I might just change my mind, but until then - I dont believe in them.

"YOUR SPELLS WILL NOT WORK ON ME!"

Cthulhu lies sleeping under the waves, but soon the stars will come aright,
Cthulhu lies as dead in R'yleh, but soon he will be wholly alive
Cthulhu sleeps
But he shall wake
Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!

That is not dead which can eternal lie
And with strange eons even death may die

Join us FoxMulder, join us and rejoice with us when the Great Cthulhu awakes to regain his rightfull place
And we his summoners, we his followers, we his loyal friends, shall take our reward.

Tyler:
He does that on occasion, you just have to put your foot down and tell him to do his own fucking laundry.

P.S: Leafs are playing like hell so far - great fucking game!

"He does that on occasion, you just have to put your foot down and tell him to do his own fucking laundry"

Actually I just set the great Gretzkyson on him. He told Cthulhu (and I quote); "Stop bothering my followers or I'll set Esa Tikanen on you!!!!"


That took care of that.


Edit: Yeah they're playing decent most of this game. What we need to do is learn how to score. Hey, you guys aren't using Robitaille that much.....could we borrow him?

*Guts a few heritics*

Haharsafdf fgkehre akjfjww

FoxMulder,

The War On Terror? It IS a war on terror! We are lucky that there are still people in power who know what is going on. In some states in the Middle East, the governments are ENTIRELY controlled by these demons!

...!
Do you like this "war on terror"?
That's the most stupid thing a government ever did!

Good examples of real "war" on terror:

Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King
Mahatma Gandhi
Buddha
Lao Tzu
Jesus
Nelson (I hope, someday...:) )


Btw... not all greys are bad. There are many that are bad, but there are good ones too. And they are probably ashamed of their "brothers"...

Love,
Nelson

how doses anyone know if "grays" are good or bad?

seeing as they (asuming they really exist) have nither atacked us or helped us in any tangerlble way

so what dose everyone who belives in them think they are evil?

Originally posted by Asguard
how doses anyone know if "grays" are good or bad?

seeing as they (asuming they really exist) have nither atacked us or helped us in any tangerlble way

so what dose everyone who belives in them think they are evil?

You right, Asguard.
They are not evil, but they are not good to us.
In 1996 they landed on Earth without any permissions of the
alien corporation. They brought with them a lot of drones and bad energy, they abducted a lot of animals, and "signed" a lot of people again: WITHOUT any permission.

Furtunately, on these days there are very few of them on Earth after they were got away.
There was also a global healing in 1998 which performed by healers and mediums in Israel by the help of good aliens and light beings.

get a GRIP

i total belive there is life out there (just to much chance for us to be the only life) but why would it come all the way to earth to stick something up some humans ass?

Originally posted by Asguard


"...but why would it come all the way to earth to stick something up some humans ass?"

Well, it's an easy answer.
Think about it:

The Earth is a very interesting planet:
it has a wild variety of animals, plants and human cultures.

It has a lot of kinds of minerals, water and the most important:
<B>Earth is the only planet of CHOICE !!</B>

Furthermore, the corporation discovers new planets all the time, and our lovely planet is one of the last ones.
The aliens see there is a great potential here, on Earth, to the mankind to develop spiritually.
Believe me, humans are very GREAT and LOVELY :D

Love u all,
Gil Weinstein.

actully we are NOT

we hate and kill millions of our own kind

if anything we are a deasease that any intelegent species would want to destroy

Gil_W,

Believe me, humans are very GREAT and LOVELY

Yes, we are...
But how many of us are blinded with fear and illusions of the mind...? :(

...!
Do you like this "war on terror"?
That's the most stupid thing a government ever did!

Nelson, it may please you to see Americans die, but our government differs. We are going to fight back. :rolleyes:

LOL @ this whole thread!

Xev,

Do you think war and death pleases me?
Americans or not Americans we are all human beings...
Wake up... you differentiate people, I don't.
If war continue to be made, more people will suffer and die.

In war anyone wins
In Love anyone lose

Okay Nelson, what should America have done following September 11th?

I don't know...
But I don't like wars...

I don't like the way things are going...

It has a lot of kinds of minerals, water and the most important:

How do you know? How do you know there are not millions of planets JUST like ours???? I believe there IS life out there, but I seriously doubt they would come here and like Asguard say, stick something up our asses.

"I don't know...
But I don't like wars...

I don't like the way things are going..."

Then come up with a better fucking solution. As far as I'm concerned, no one has a right to bitch and moan about what the U.S. has done unless they have a better way out that would have worked.

Remember that joke about when you run into someone who thinks America should have just talked about it with Afghanistan you should keep punching them until they get the point that talking doesn't always work? I did it. No joke. One of those moron neo-feminist-leftist-antifreedom-literature-hating-morons stoped me downtown to hand me a leaflet saying some crap like 'FIGHT AGAINST WHAT AMERICA IS DOING!' and I calmed myself down and said 'So what should they be doing?'

'We should be talking to Afghanistan and working this out diplomatically'

I push her

'What was that for?'

I push her

'Kindly stop that will you'

I push her

'Look, I know what you're trying to do'

I push her. 'Really? What?'

'Just stop it, please. I'm not going to hit you back. You cannot win'

I push her. 'I don't want you to push me back'

'Then what do you want?'

I push her. 'To see how long I can get away with hitting you.'

'Well I'm not going to hit back.'

'Then I'm just going to hit you until you leave.'

'I'm not leaving'

I push her. 'I'm not stopping.'

Finally she steps away and has to leave.

'I win.'

"I don't know..."

Then why judge?

"But I don't like wars..."

Guess what? I don't like fucking wars either!

"Do you think war and death pleases me?"

It shouldn't.

"Americans or not Americans we are all human beings..."

Well no fucking shit sherlock!

"Wake up... you differentiate people, I don't."

Open your fucking eyes Nelson, I don't put a special premium on American lives. But I don't like seeing my countrymen die.

Typical fear-based answers...

Typical idiot-without-a-clue-of-the-real-world, arrogant answer....

Look TS

I HATE war

i don't think it solves a thing

and i don't think this one will solve anything either

at the same time i don't blame the US for wanting to have Vengence

i think vengence is stupid and that there is a reason that our legle system is based on JUSTICE not VENGENCE but i understand WHY they feel like it

there leadership SUCKS tho and ours is WORSE

WE should not be involved but thats another story

i just don't think the leaders of the US thought there options through properly but I can't give them anything better (although i don't have access to what the US presidant dose) so i accept it when they dissmiss my opinion that they are wrong

the war is here now and we are stuck with it, now we just have to hope it dosn't come back to bite the world on the ass

Asguard,

I agree with all you said execept:
i think vengence is stupid and that there is a reason that our legle system is based on JUSTICE not VENGENCE but i understand WHY they feel like it

I won't argue though... that's another whole thread...

Love,
Nelson

Actully i belive that TS and would be HAPPY to debate it with you
anywhere you like

make a thread then PM me (if i don't respond to it) and im there

Sure :)
As soon as I can ;)

To complement our point of view... :)

Through violence, you may 'solve' one problem, but you sow the seeds for another.
Dalai Lama

Tyler
"Typical idiot-without-a-clue-of-the-real-world, arrogant answer...."

Ha ha ha! Touche, touche, Tyler is a genious!

Asguard: Again, what would you have us do? We did not go in only for vengence, but to stop future attacks.

Now, future attacks may make people such as Nelson and Banshee happy happy, but they really upset me! I don't like them, for obvious reasons.

See, we are trying to stop that from happening again. As Mallory Knox noted a while back, we aren't going to be 100% sucessfull but we will try and I think we will be safer.

What will you have us do?

(And yes Ty, you were right - I was quite a bit of a pussy in my reactions to 9.11 - you were right thanks for mentioning that - umm, somwhere else - I owe you one.)

as i keep saying i am not arogant enought to say i could solve all the worlds problems (i can't even solve my own) but then i still have to live in this world if you blow it up which DOSE give me the right AND the responcablity to take an interest and comment on world events

can i think of a better way?
probably not at this point
20 years ago there may have been other paths to take, i don't know now

At this point i can see no other option, events have just snowballed to much

so i hope and pray that when Bush has had his fight with basicly anyone who looked at him wrong, that we have a world left

i think vengence is stupid and that there is a reason that our legle system is based on JUSTICE not VENGENCE but i understand WHY they feel like it

I understand, kinda. I KNOW if you had 3,000 innocent people (and a diversty at that - not were all Americcans were killed) you would think a little bit different.

Its just not fair - This, a human has the right to vote or speak up against rebel actions - that he/she should be hypocritized!
Vengence? May have a littel to do with "our" thinkng. But i garauntee - if it were you, you would feel the same way!


Or would ya?

(and a diversty at that - not were all Americcans were killed) you would think a little bit different.


Wow! American is much more utilizing as Austarialian blood! :D

star:

to someone who has lost someone it dosn't matter if 1 or a billion lives were lost, its only to a country or a people that a destintion comes about

a little girl raped a and murded is more important to the girls family than 3000 dead

not one of those familys (taken in isolation) is any different from a million other murder victoms

thankfully i have never had to experiance either

but as i said when we were debating the DP

the victom should NEVER decide the punishment or justice loses its impartality

i also said that i hoped i could forgive the perpetrator but either way I SHOULD HAVE NO SAY IN THE SENTANCE

now oviously there is no third party for the US to go to and they had to decide the action

But chosing this war is no different from say using the DP

i will NEVER surport the DP for whatever reason because it is revenge and i belive revenge is wrong

even the law (both ours and yours) states that killing for revenge is murder and wrong

so no, even if it was my GF or my child who died i WOULDN'T surport the war

at the same time i understand why you WOULD

i just wonder if (after Bush has taken out all you "enermys") there will be anything left for the rest of us

Asguard:

"But chosing this war is no different from say using the DP"

Oh, okay then, we're morally in the right.

"even the law (both ours and yours) states that killing for revenge is murder and wrong"

Nope, it dosen't. Murder is unlawfull killing - the DP is lawfull killing.

not under our law your not

killing for revenge is Murder 1 (i think) in the US but if the state dose it its ok

we don't have that sort of ethical loop hole

killing is illegle here by anyone except in self defence or whatever

Killing in self defence is illegal here in Oz asguard, for the record. Although light sentences are usually handed out for doing so.

Why do you remind me so much of Neville Chamberlain...?

er ok
don't know

why do i remind you of a woman who, quite justly, clamed her baby was killed by a dingo?

You don't.

er
ok then

*quietly sneaking away from the loony*

"and i don't think this one will solve anything either"

Women can walk to streets in Afghanistan and feel more safe than before. Therefore, the war has had at least one major positive effect.


"Through violence, you may 'solve' one problem, but you sow the seeds for another."

Usually, yes. However, violence is sometimes necessary.


"And yes Ty, you were right - I was quite a bit of a pussy in my reactions to 9.11 - you were right thanks for mentioning that - umm, somwhere else - I owe you one."

Don't particularily remember what it was we went on about, maybe the thing around still feeling 'affected' by the atttacks? Anyway, your welcome........if that wasn't a sarcastic remark!



"See, we are trying to stop that from happening again. As Mallory Knox noted a while back, we aren't going to be 100% sucessfull but we will try and I think we will be safer."

We will fail. Future attacks won't be stopped until America stops fucking over other nations to benefit itself, and it stops being the world's superpower-police-jury-judge-executioner. Which just won't happen! Maybe if you had a good 5 or 6 Democrats in power in a row.....


"Ha ha ha! Touche, touche, Tyler is a genious!"

You flatter me!



"can i think of a better way?
probably not at this point
20 years ago there may have been other paths to take, i don't know now"

Good call. Twenty years ago they could have made some different decisions that would have helped to prevent this. Not supporting the Taliban would have been one.


"Its just not fair - This, a human has the right to vote or speak up against rebel actions - that he/she should be hypocritized!
Vengence? May have a littel to do with "our" thinkng. But i garauntee - if it were you, you would feel the same way!"

Damn straight.


"now oviously there is no third party for the US to go to and they had to decide the action"

Asgaurd, I use to look at actions following Sept 11th in relation to police action. Mainly because I always try to magnify an act to see how it should be resolved. The fact is, you can't do this with September 11th. There is a third party the U.S. can go to, the UN. Now, hypothetically speaking, what do you think would have happened if there had been no military intervention by America? The UN would likely have attempted a 'peaceful solution': meaning talking to the Taliban, maybe fining them and moving in a small task force to find Al-Qaeda. Okay, so it's a peaceful solution and there's less death. I'm a man who will tell you that in many situations, the ends do indeed justify the means. And here's how it breaks down to me:

Peacful Solution Ends:
- Taliban still in power
- Women still less valuable than goats
- Terrorist rings still around
- An angry superpower (America) that feels cheated
- The massive Heroin ring still up in Afghanistan (which is one of those things America once had a chance to shut down another way but chose not too)
- A realization by world-wide terrorist groups that killing thousands of Americans means a slap on the wrist

Current Solution Ends:
- Taliban gone
- Al-Qaeda all but officially gone
- Realization in world-wide terrorist groups that America WILL kick your ass if you try anything
- Women are humans
- A happier America. Perhaps one less likely to invade Iraq (which, as we know, would just be Bushy the second trying to impress Bushy the first by succeeding where he failed)
- A smaller heroin ring.


The reason you can't look at America's actions in terms of police and law is that in a court of law you can actually bring the murderer in and force him to go to jail. A court of international law would have to find/catch Bin Laden and all the cronies first. Something the Yanks/Brits/Canucks haven't been able to do (we assume) in what now, 8 months?

If you read what you wrote asguard, things might become a little clearer. You asked me if you reminded me of Lindy Chamberlain.. I said you dont. If that doesnt make sense to you, then go back to school.

Do you even know who Neville Chamberlain was?

Asguard:
"killing for revenge is Murder 1 (i think) in the US but if the state dose it its ok"

We have other reasons besides revenge. Anyways, yeah, I mean, if I were to demand 6% of the money you spend on certain items, and to use force to do this, it would be stealing.

Here in Michigan, it's simply the sales tax.

"why do i remind you of a woman who, quite justly, clamed her baby was killed by a dingo?"

*Giggles*

Neville Chamberlain was a British PM who blundered into starting WW2 by appeasing Hitler until it was too late to stop him.

You're thinking of Winnie Chamberlain. (If I remember her name right)

Tyler:
"Don't particularily remember what it was we went on about, maybe the thing around still feeling 'affected' by the atttacks? Anyway, your welcome........if that wasn't a sarcastic remark!"

Not sarcastic at all.

"We will fail. Future attacks won't be stopped until America stops fucking over other nations to benefit itself, and it stops being the world's superpower-police-jury-judge-executioner. Which just won't happen! Maybe if you had a good 5 or 6 Democrats in power in a row....."

Aye, but that seems to be the nature of all superpowers, no?

Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China in the Sui dynasty, then eventually the imperealism of the 19th century, Britain's expansion.....

Countries try to maintian power and force others to do as they want. Seems to be human nature.

Oh, you're right, but I don't think that much will change. Increased ethical consideration on my country's part would be nice, however, I am realistic.

"The reason you can't look at America's actions in terms of police and law is that in a court of law you can actually bring the murderer in and force him to go to jail. A court of international law would have to find/ catch Bin Laden and all the cronies first. Something the Yanks/Brits/Canucks haven't been able to do (we assume) in what now, 8 months?"

Very true. Of course, exactly who is interfering with attempts to create a world court? :rolleyes:

But even if it existed, you're right - they would have to have caught him and, frankly, I've never thought that had much chance of happening.

Xev,

Now, future attacks may make people such as Nelson and Banshee happy happy, but they really upset me! I don't like them, for obvious reasons.

Happy!?!?:bugeye:
We are warning you... but you don't listen...:eek:

"Happy!?!?
We are warning you... but you don't listen..."

Avoids the points, doesn't debate, leaves at the 'I am right, you are wrong' stage and acts like an idiot. Nelson, grow the fuck up.

And yes, I do realize the irony of needlessly swearing while telling someone to mature.



"Neville Chamberlain was a British PM who blundered into starting WW2 by appeasing Hitler until it was too late to stop him."

Think: 'Hmmmm, Adolf wants more land and if we dont give it to him (despite it not being ours), he'll try fighting for it. Well, might as well give it to him! I mean, after all, logic states that when we keep letting him take free land, he'll be happy and won't want more!'



"Not sarcastic at all."

Goody! Then, you're welcome!



"Aye, but that seems to be the nature of all superpowers, no?

Babylonia, Egypt, Greece, Rome, China in the Sui dynasty, then eventually the imperealism of the 19th century, Britain's expansion.....

Countries try to maintian power and force others to do as they want. Seems to be human nature"

Yup, next is Asia again. I'm thinking Japan. Just hope I'm not around to see it. It is the nature of superpowers, always will be. I want to write more on this, but its' saturday and I gotta go.



"Very true. Of course, exactly who is interfering with attempts to create a world court? "

Nelson.
Haha.

Tyler,

Avoids the points, doesn't debate, leaves at the 'I am right, you are wrong' stage and acts like an idiot. Nelson, grow the fuck up.

You should read my posts more often so that you can see that I don't avoid points, I do debate and it's you that leaves the "I am right, you are wrong" kid...

And yes, I do realize the irony of needlessly swearing while telling someone to mature.

Look to my posts and see who is immature... :o

Nelson.
Haha.

:D:D:D:D:D

Love,
Nelson

Perhaps you should "tiptoe quietly away" to the local library Asguard, and read up on Neville (Not Lindy) Chamberlain.
It always helps to have a fair knowledge of history, because it can give you insight into what has worked in the past and what hasn't.

Read up on the events leading up to WW2 and Chamberlain's role in the appeasement of Hitler, and you'll see how far avoiding war at all costs really gets us. That's what he wanted too... and look what happened. You'd apparently like for us to repeat that mistake all over again?

"You should read my posts more often so that you can see that I don't avoid points, I do debate and it's you that leaves the "I am right, you are wrong" kid..."

I read every one of your posts. You usually respond to 40-50% of points.


"Look to my posts and see who is immature... "

You insinuate swearing makes me immature. I insinuate thinking you know everything is arrogant. Difference? I can admitt I'm immature.

the cost of avoiding war is so high?

let me see

increase nike clothing cost because you actully PAY your workers

And maybe the cost is LESS because if your not stationing milatary forces in EVERY country (including friends who have there OWN millatary), you don't need to pay them so much

but its to LATE to be nice

We should have been nice 20, 30, 50 years ago

now were wear the conciquences

like Bush running around with a licence to invade any country that LOOKS at him wrong

and then theres his wanting to Nuke everyone in sight

really i am suprised when i wake up each morning that we are not ALREADY in a Nuke war

THIS is the concequences of our actions

FEAR

Point One.
We WERE nice 50 (or 60 odd) years ago... that led to ww2. Havent you been listening? Did you even BOTHER to read up on it?

I suppose you think Australia should not have sent troops to East Timor as well... and I bet the East Timorese are damn glad right now that YOU'RE not in charge hmm? After all, according to you nothing justifies an armed response... I suppose you would have been prepared to let the Indonesians walk in and take over coz us going in to help just "wasn't right"? Too bad about the East Timorese peoples' rights... you have IDEALS, and thats just too bad for them, cause you know better... right?

Point Two.
I would hardly classify flying a couple of jet airliners into the World Trade Centre as "looking at him wrong"... man take the blinkers off willya? Geez you're so anti-american you can't see the wood for the trees. Maybe the USA have been a little overbearing (maybe they've been a LOT overbearing), but BY YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS you cannot justify an armed response. Like flying planes into buildings. Right?
Can't have it both ways laddie. Perhaps you should be talking to the terrorists and asking please not to hurt us anymore? Maybe if you asked them nicely....

Point three.
Who ever said Bush wanted to nuke everyone in sight? The US hasn't used a nuke since 1945... that was a while ago now. I don't remember him saying "nuke em all and let god sort em out"... do you? Are you seriously trying to tell me you know what he's thinking? I sure as hell don't...
The man mightn't be the smartest kid on the block but he sure as hell isn't THAT dumb... Funny how you're not so anti- Pakistan/India right now, when THEY'RE the ones brandishing nukes for all to see? I've seen your posts.. you're scared, but I have yet to see you display the same amount of vitriolic argument. Or wait that's different isnt it... they're not Americans, so it's not so bad. They don't have Nike shoes, after all.

Tyler,

You insinuate swearing makes me immature. I insinuate thinking you know everything is arrogant. Difference? I can admitt I'm immature.

Who said I know everything...?
Look, kid... go back to the subject...

Anyone else find it interesting taht Nelson calls me 'kid' now?

"Who said I know everything...?"

How many times do I have to explain this. You claim to know the ultimate truths of the universe, everything about love and relationships and human nature. To me, that constitutes enough to call it 'everything'.



"Look, kid... go back to the subject..."

Look, moron.....I wrote a huge post about hte subject and you replied to one stupid little non-serious section about it. So, moron.....who's going off subject?

Tyler,

How many times do I have to explain this. You claim to know the ultimate truths of the universe, everything about love and relationships and human nature. To me, that constitutes enough to call it 'everything'.

Ok... perhaps next time I can lie... but I don't like lying...

Look, moron.....I wrote a huge post about hte subject and you replied to one stupid little non-serious section about it. So, moron.....who's going off subject?

???
Really...?

While answering Xev:
Happy!?!?
We are warning you... but you don't listen...

You come in...
Avoids the points, doesn't debate, leaves at the 'I am right, you are wrong' stage and acts like an idiot. Nelson, grow the fuck up.

And yes, I do realize the irony of needlessly swearing while telling someone to mature.

And I reply...
You should read my posts more often so that you can see that I don't avoid points, I do debate and it's you that leaves the "I am right, you are wrong" kid...

And it goes on...:bugeye:


I don't even swear at you or turn you down...
I'm as honest as I can with you...
Than, I'm immature and arrogant and you are right...
...
Is there something wrong here...?

...

Hey squidy

im sorry

my memory must be failing

i just can't seem to rember iraq, iran, cuba, Noth kora, china, russa, palistine, colubia, Northan irland (and anyothers that bush may have mentioned) flying planes into buildings

please refresh my memory for me

as to nukes Bush KEEPS comming out saying he wants to Nuke iraq

personaly i think he is the most dangorouse man alive and i PRAY the American people will stop him before he turns this planet into a Nuke waist dump

"Ok... perhaps next time I can lie... but I don't like lying..."

Don't lie. Admitt it, you think you know what I constitute as everything. What you have to realize is that you have an ego larger than a measurable size. And everyone has told you this.


"???
Really...?"

You didn't reply to any of my stuff on the war in Afghanistan. In that thread in Religion you actually skipped half my post.

Tyler we have to start up a bumper sticker company with Nelson quotes.

as to nukes Bush KEEPS comming out saying he wants to Nuke iraq

I don't recall Bush saying this but I don't doubt that the thought hasn't crossed his mind.

But as for the subject on the war right now, America really has no choice. We have to fight someone, blow up something to appease the masses. What would you do if someone ripped off your pinky right in your face and then ran off, but you couldn't find him? You'd be in a 'piss-poor' mood and take it off on everyone else, no matter how nice they were to you! You'd go to the guy's house (afghanistan), visit his friend's (Iraq), this is what America is doing, because we can't just sit back and wait for something on this scale to happen again. We have to try to prevent it, and rationalizing with these lunatics isn't going to do a goddamn thing, because, obviously: they are lunatics.

Tyler,

Don't lie. Admitt it, you think you know what I constitute as everything. What you have to realize is that you have an ego larger than a measurable size. And everyone has told you this.

*sight...
I won't lose my time with you...

You didn't reply to any of my stuff on the war in Afghanistan. In that thread in Religion you actually skipped half my post.

Don't remember...
If I did so... probably because it was meaningless to reply to the rest...:bugeye:

"*sight...
I won't lose my time with you..."

Right. Go find another three day girl. Pathetic little 18 year old boy who hasn't experienced anything and considers himself an expert.


"Don't remember...
If I did so... probably because it was meaningless to reply to the rest..."

Nope, not at all

Originally posted by Asguard
Hey squidy

im sorry

my memory must be failing

i just can't seem to rember iraq, iran, cuba, Noth kora, china, russa, palistine, colubia, Northan irland (and anyothers that bush may have mentioned) flying planes into buildings

please refresh my memory for me

as to nukes Bush KEEPS comming out saying he wants to Nuke iraq

personaly i think he is the most dangorouse man alive and i PRAY the American people will stop him before he turns this planet into a Nuke waist dump

I would really like to see a quote from Bush saying he wants to nuke someone. Show me one? As Tyler said the thought has probably crossed his mind... but then thinking about something and then actually doing it are two different things arent they?

You've completely ignored the rest of it, I wouldnt mind seeing what you think. Don't skip the bits ya dont like now, hmm? :)

why would YOU care if i skiped bits YOU turned a perfectly logical statement around to make me look stupid

of corse as i don't really GIVE A DAM what you think of me its unimportant but its unpolite

plus you AGAIN ignored part of my post

is that because they DIDN'T do anything and Bush is just a stupid child yelling "they were mean to me"?

as to the Nuke thing i can't rember where i read it (it was a while ago, maybe goofy will know) so i am sorry i can't give you a link but if i rember right it was "bush making special Nukes to use on suspected chemical labs" and "bush wants to make special Nukes to use like bunker buster bombs"

"YOU turned a perfectly logical statement around to make me look stupid"

Which one? You'll have to clarify.

"i just can't seem to rember iraq, iran, cuba, Noth kora, china, russa, palistine, colubia, Northan irland (and anyothers that bush may have mentioned) flying planes into buildings"

Is this the bit you mean I missed? well ok lets see...
Iraq. They're dangerous. Anyone with one good eye and the ability to make judgements can see that. Ignoring them is like ignoring a snake under your house.

Iran. Used to be dangerous... now? I don't know. What's the US done to Iran lately anyway? Have I missed something?

Cuba. Cuba? Whats Cuba got to do with anything? Don't they make sugar or something?

North Korea. Well they don't figure all THAT much in the news, or in discussions. Bush mentioned them in his "axis of evil" Speech sure... maybe he knows something we don't? It's always possible... I mean I still reckon the guy's a little on the dumb side but I don't think he just pulls countries names out of the hat for no reason, do you?

China. Apart from the Spyplane thing (which it's fairly safe to assume EVERYONE is doing) whats been happening with the US and China lately? their the biggest kids on the block, sure, and they go all out with the verbal stuff on occasion, but I dont recall him saying anything about invading or nuking them.

Russia. The US and Russia seem to be getting along a whole lot better these days. Where did this come from?

Palestine. Granted, you have me there. Bush deosnt like them much does he ;) However, he hasn't DONE an awful lot about it, and he's been quite vocal in saying the Israelis should have pulled out. I don't think you're being entirely fair here.

Columbia. Major suppliers of hard drugs all over the world, to the point where their economy almost relies on that industry surviving. How the hell can you blame him for being a little peeved? havent you ever seen anyone who's been addicted? Still - no invasion or nuke threat there either.

Northern Ireland. Have to admit, I havent been keeping up on current events there. That's deliberate though... They bore the hell out of me with their petty religious squabblings. Again though... nuke threat? invasion? where?

Now don't be angry with me Asguard... I do like you, which is why I argue with you so much. It's worth it, you see - your viewpoint is the total opposite of mine on many things. I don't come on here to make friends, and my language is how I talk when I'm arguing. I could couch it all up and be nice and polite, but then I'd be boring the hell out of myself and putting far more effort into it, which takes time I really don't have. Not only that, but being nice and agreeable and liking everyone makes for a lame and boring discussion board. If you can't handle it, then just don't reply to me... but I'd miss you :)

actully if you hang around you will find that one of the people i like the most i don't think i have agreed with once (exceped about where we both are now), that is star (*stRgrL*)

i also don't agree with xev much and i like her to

you will find most people i don't agree with i like because i really like to argue (about ANYTHING)

i DON'T like people who are insulting tho

Well thats a bit of a conundrum then isn't it? Xev is quite frequently insulting, from what I've read... but you like her, you say. You also say you don't like anyone who is insulting. Tyler you didnt mention, but one can hardly mention Xev without mentioning tyler, so his sig carrying quotes from nelson must be quite insulting I'd imagine (to Nelson anyway) so I'd surmise you hate him too.

So what you REALLY mean then, is that you don't like anyone who is insulting to YOU... which is not very impartial now is it? Ah, the things you've all said to truthseeker (who, I must admit, quite obviously deserves a good insulting every now and again)

I insult nearly everyone, because I'm an angry man, because I hate nearly every bloody thing, because thats the way I argue and because I can. So don't like me then... but for god's sake be consistent about it.

don't you DARE say anything bad about star

you can isult tyler and xev all you like and it will mean nothing but something to laugh about

but not star

she is the sweetest, kindest person here

Star? I don't remember mentioning Star.... Why, did she say something I should insult?

narf narf... :D

(I guess this means you're not going to be consistent then... ah well.)

"Tyler you didnt mention, but one can hardly mention Xev without mentioning tyler,"

So I'm part of a package now eh? Meh, good by me.



"so his sig carrying quotes from nelson must be quite insulting I'd imagine (to Nelson anyway) so I'd surmise you hate him too."

Why would they be insulting? I did nothing but put things he himself has said and believes on there. It's not my fault that he says some ridiculous things.


And honestly, no insulting star. Insult me all you want, but not star.

star is *stRgrL* (which you would know if you read my post) and you will find EVERYONE is protective of her

Justify all you like tyler, you can be quite insulting when you put your mind to it. I'm sure I don't need to quote anything do I?

But that's not the point... I was merely commenting on Asguard's statement that he didn't like insulting people, coupled with his statement that he liked Xev, who can be rather insulting indeed. I just threw in you for comic relief, given recent soap opera threads around here ;)

Why the hell is everyone telling me not to insult Star? I've done nothing of the sort as yet.... So unless you've all got crystal balls and I don't (which I would deem as singularly unfair) then stop trying to predict what I will do... or I might just do it out of perversity.

If I dislike something someone says, I tell them, in no uncertain terms (unless I'm in a good mood for once). Kinda like a few other people around here don't you think? I'm honest about it at least.

Now can we get back OT? This is beginning to bore me....

Originally posted by Asguard
star is *stRgrL* (which you would know if you read my post) and you will find EVERYONE is protective of her

Bwian -
"You're all INDIVIDUALS!"

The Crowd -
"YES! We ARE all individuals!"

Some Guy in the Crowd -
"i'm not..."

"Justify all you like tyler, you can be quite insulting when you put your mind to it. I'm sure I don't need to quote anything do I?"

Yes I can. But my Nelson quotes were not insulting to him unless he feels insulted by his own statements.


"But that's not the point... I was merely commenting on Asguard's statement that he didn't like insulting people, coupled with his statement that he liked Xev, who can be rather insulting indeed."

Xev insults only when first insulted. I've yet to see her come out and insult someone without being provoked. And believe me, when a virgin who's never had a girlfriend (pardon me, one girl who dumped him in 3 days) says he knows more about sex and love than someone more experienced... that's provocation.


"I just threw in you for comic relief, given recent soap opera threads around here"

Fair enough!


"Why the hell is everyone telling me not to insult Star? I've done nothing of the sort as yet.... So unless you've all got crystal balls and I don't (which I would deem as singularly unfair) then stop trying to predict what I will do... or I might just do it out of perversity."

My bad.

Right then. Is everyone well salted now? Excellent.

Right then. Is everyone well salted now? Excellent.

No, I don't like being salted - it's bad for my skin.

star is *stRgrL* (which you would know if you read my post) and you will find EVERYONE is protective of her

Well gee boys, I'm sure that you feel so much better after that little display of chivalric* conduct, now can we get back on subject? :rolleyes:

I swear, I may understand C++ one day, I may write spaghetti codes, I might even develop and prove a GUT, but I will NEVER understand men.

In conclusion, I hate you all. On subject:

I think the subject was whether Bush had threatened to use nukes. To my knowledge, he has not. I am not a great fan of the Prez, but I doubt very much that he would.

As for bunker-destroying bombs, there is some talk in the Pentagon of altering the test-ban treaty in order to test a new bomb that would do that - and arming it with a nuclear warhead.

I'm not very sure though - I caught this on CNN a while back, but this may be the source of confusion.

Oh, and in the interests of the soap-opera-ish "discussion about the discussion", I never insult unless insulted first.




*I SPELLED IT RIGHT! I SPELLED IT RIGHT!!

I have pizza AND booze! :)

Remind me not to insult you then.

See Asguard? It's easy. Show me something of value and I'll leave you alone ;)

1) The USA uses the eagle as a symbol, as did Rome and NAZI Germany?

I don't know about Rome and the Nazis. I don't know anything about this matter. But I do know that the Bald Eagle is (or was a few years ago) almost an extinct species.

2) There is the pyramid and the eye on our money?

No idea.

3) Our main government building is a pentagram?

You mean it has 5 sides? I don't know this math area too well (i.e. octagon has 8 sides, hexagon is box shaped, etc....) But I do know, if you are referring to the symbol of the devil, that is shaped like an upside down star (I think similar to an upside down star of david). The Pentagon is not shaped this way.

4) Australia's capital city is designed like one big energy-siphon, centered around their parliament building?

No clue my friend

5) A few small families command the greater portion of the world's wealth?

So? People are addicted to computers. They are fun. People can't stop using them. The money goes into the pockets of the people selling the products. bill gates made an operating system that runs computers.

6) Rupert Murdoch is buying EVERYTHING?

You don't say?

"So? People are addicted to computers. They are fun. People can't stop using them. The money goes into the pockets of the people selling the products. bill gates made an operating system that runs computers."

This argument only points to better marketing, not better operating systems. He got rich not from making a superior product, but from superior merchandising, which I personally regard as being one of the main faults with capitalism. I'm pissed and can't remember what the topic was. Something about salt? Or was it beer....

I think he was just trying to mention some conspiracy theories of his. I was just pointing out my opinion on that. I don't see anything suspicious about it (other than windows 98 leaks memory..........).

why EXACTLY should i care about you?

(sorry for stealing that dave, that was a GREAT come back)

the ancient aryan societies were built by slaves through war. an old world order of priests ,merchants and warriors under an all seeing eye. a society of order and control,divide and conquer ,kill and steal ,to destroy all memoryand identity through dreaming.
priests controlled through the order of law.merchants controlled through the order of trade.warriors controlled through the order of arms.
the new world order is capitalist democracy .a capitol is a temple , if you look at the outline of the parliament house in canberra australia ,it is a ziggurat or pyramid. this capitol in canberra is one of three points of a triangle known as the parliamentry triangle.the capital hill ,the city hill and the great eagle standard.the capital hill is a parliament, a centre of laws.the city hill is surrounded by banks and merchant houses ,a centre of trade. the eagle is surrounded by the defence department and secret service, a centre of arms.
preists ,merchants and warriors.
in the heart of the triangle ,is a lake forming one half of an eye ,the other half is a ceremonial alter with a trench cut into the earth on a perfect angle away from the heart of the alter that is the centre of the eye,towards chrystals or windows on the temple.
this ceremony is a symbol of a triangle with an eye in the middle or the great architect of the universe.
in the new world order ,slaves are called human resource . the war is war on terrorism, terrorism has no name and no borders and is defined in law under the capitol.
the memory is living dreaming, in joy and harmony with all life.be the tree and you will see a child grows to show ,to open the blind,the deaf , the dumb ,doorways for your soul, to grow.we belong here within our womb of life sharing,one breath with all life.we are sensitive to touch,we are aware inside and out , all over we feel life ,all over ,hearing, seeing,smelling,dreaming,laughing ,crying,screaming,surfing ,killing, stealing ,getting dressed in a suit and tie and cutting all our hair to wonder why, with no true identity nor belonging .in the blink of an eye its all gone and who turned the lights off.this is our time within the one time.we have the potential to be as beautiful as the wilderness or as ugly as the city, both and more are within us and we are dreaming.light a fire and watch it dance ,give it a feed and watch it grow.plant a seed,give it a feed and watch it grow.the fire ,the seed and me, breathing,feeling ,dancing,singing,dreaming.

Yes Doollagah... and what exactly do you propose we do about it all?

i propose..... we live.this is our time within one time dreaming.
what do you need ,to live, in the next, three seconds?

1)Eagles: they have always been a symbol of majesty and stuff, so rulers make them a symbol. They also look good on coins.:D

3)"Our main government building is a pentagram?" Are you talking about the Pentagon? Did you know it was originally intended to be a hospital? Like Canberra, its purpose is administrative. I suppose the arichitecture reflected the need for lots of rooms adn the need to survive a war.

5)Capitalism. Capitalism. Capitalism.

6) That's his problem.

Originally posted by doollagah
i propose..... we live.this is our time within one time dreaming.
what do you need ,to live, in the next, three seconds?

Stimulation ;)

stimulation???
dont you realy mean
masdabation!!!
using an object called the "super model"


fox molder..... dude!!!!
why are you batting for the bad guys???

have you had your heart broken by your childhood sweatheart,
only to continue to take it out on all other women???

or is it just too freuddian based and simple logic?

you mix fact with fiction in only the way a
profesional would!

come clean and reveal your sources!!!
or is someone whispering in your ear???????????+1+1
dont be afraid to live; only if it is for a second
(a second can be a long time in a form of pure energy!!!).

and maybe your children will remember you with love instead of fear!

but hey
WTF would i know!
im just a raving looney on a penal colony called earth!

peace...love...and missery to all greed merchants.

HEYYA :)

im back :)

where are all the pointing fingers and jeering crowds ive grown to love???
translation = any one have any more thoughts?

yo Squid Vicious
Quote =
I suppose you think Australia should not have sent troops to East Timor as well... and I bet the East Timorese are damn glad right now that YOU'RE not in charge hmm? After all, according to you nothing justifies an armed response... I suppose you would have been prepared to let the Indonesians walk in and take over coz us going in to help just "wasn't right"? Too bad about the East Timorese peoples' rights... you have IDEALS, and thats just too bad for them, cause you know better... right?
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IM NOT TRYING TO SINGLE YOU OUT!!! its just that your comment caught my eye and i felt i had to add my ever devaluing 5 cents worth
i am embarrised to say that New Zealand also helped train the east timor government troops that have systematicly raped/tortured and murdered in excess of 1 million people in timor.
and continue to do so!!!
it is not a rosey picture of self deffence!!!
and when was the last time any estern govt slagged its own millitary on a global interface.
never would be my memory.
have the U.S.A apologised yet to the veitnamese for wiping out whole villages of only women and children...AFTER THEY RAPED THEM "ALL"???
im not entirely sure but i dont think so.
any enlightenment on this would be apreciated.

WHO RUNS THE INTERNATIONAL COURT FOR WAR CRIMES?

I VOTE TO PUT A PALISTINIAN JUDGE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


groove on all :)

If there is a conspiracy quite why they would leave around these pointless symbols that have no purpose except that loonies on the internet can unmask the conspiracy from a pyramid with an eye on, is beyond me

there is no conspiricy,the symbols are in place for ceremony.
it is all about power.the power is dreaming.
canberra is a dreaming ceremony ,over an ancient dreaming ceremony.
energy meridians meet at this place . songlines .
what is law? how does law effect you? is there dreaming in law ? how does law effect the dreaming of you? is there any power in law?where is the seat of power in law?
they are mucking with the elements.they have desecrated sacred ceremony.
the law of fire was desecrated in june 2001, in the heart of the ceremony that is canberra.
a fire raced from lightning strike ,east along the ancient songline fthrough the mountains at christmas,destroying eighty structures before reaching the big bay.here a large thunder head cloud formed and a twister 500 m wide and three km high , chased out 8 sydney to hobart and volvo round the world yaught racers ,out of the ocean,tearing mainsails.
you see ,we have lost our law,our way.
lost children lead ,uninitiated, mucking with the elements in an illusion of time.

doollagah


be very carefull

south pacific is controlled by these people
they are everywhere watching
playing balance acts
trying to manipulate something.

intuetive thought is under attack!!!

what is the next step?

please pm me soon
but remeber both our countrys are occupied!!!

i need you to decifer a vision!!!

can you help???

Doolagah...

As long as you continue to consider yourself a victim, you will be.

no victim
no crime

no care = no victim = no crime
reset your base!

to watch a drowning person is almost worse than doing the killing

do or do not
is an oxymoron in a society of desructive people
philosophy is too complex for people to apply to poisened minds!
first you must cure the illness
then you can "reset" then you will eliminate the need to
"not be a victim"
there is soo much brainwashing from such a young age
when will people stop selling and buying fear
while UNKNOWINGLY peddaling half truths and AND
psychologicaly undermining nursery ryhmes!

all people have the choice
it just takes a strong person to choose to be good
it is easy to do nothing and so help the bad.

oh how sad and frightened most people are inside thier poisened hearts!
reach for the light and we all may see a little further.

rite im off to eat more chocolate and pretend i like my job!
and maybe i wont have to kill anyone tommorow?!?!?!?!
is spiritual death worse than physical death?
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:)