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lixluke
07-27-05, 01:17 AM
Who are your enemies? Why are they your enemies? What is your objective regarding your enemies?

I consider the government my enemy. Especially all the large major corporations because all they do is steal from the poor and tear up the earth doing it.

It seems as if people have enemies, and do not think twice about it. “These are my enemies. Nothing more. Nothing less.” So to speak. But they have no objective. It seems as if people do not understand that the objective is to not have enemies.

The object is to have no enemies. In order to do so, you usually have a specific objective regarding your enemy.
Examples:
1. Eradicate your enemy.
2. Convert your enemy to your supporter.
3. Avoid your enemy.
4. Coexist with your enemy.
5. Join your enemy.


The point for me regarding my enemies is to convert them to my supporter.
Reasons America is my enemy:
1. America is oppressive.
2. America is fakist.
3. America is unjust.
4. America destroys the environment.

The object for me is to convert America into a free nation that cultivates the environment and all humans prosperously under true justice.


Who are your enemies? Why are they your enemies? What is your objective regarding your enemies?

TruthSeeker
07-27-05, 02:19 AM
Hey! We have the same enemies! :)
Right on! Let's become allies! :p

TruthSeeker
07-27-05, 02:20 AM
The object for me is to convert America into a free nation that cultivates the environment and all humans prosperously under true justice.
You are very, VERY faithful... wow....

vslayer
07-27-05, 05:17 AM
you really think you can do that peacefully? to the corporations(including bushco) money is life, they will protect it to the death. so in order to acheive victory you must kill them

cosmictraveler
07-27-05, 07:51 AM
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

lixluke
07-27-05, 08:24 AM
you really think you can do that peacefully? to the corporations(including bushco) money is life, they will protect it to the death. so in order to acheive victory you must kill them
Anybody that thinks violence is going to work is on crack.
First there is no practicality in violently going up against the strongest military.
Second, killing is wrong. The ends do not justify the means. The objective is to save lives not take them.

Satyr
07-27-05, 08:47 AM
The enemy of my enemy’s friend….is my friend.

The purpose of an enemy is to die and make your life worth living.

wkirby
07-27-05, 09:06 AM
Reasons America is my enemy:
1. America is oppressive.
2. America is fakist.
3. America is unjust.
4. America destroys the environment.

It seems that if something being oppressive, fakist, unjust, and destroying the environment are your points for making someone your enemy, i'd imagine you have an endless supply of enemies! Is it really that simple for you? You hate America because of those reasons?

-Will

cosmictraveler
07-27-05, 10:36 AM
The purpose of an enemy is to die and make your life worth living.


Don't change what I say just to fit your own agenda.

The only reason you have enemies is because you troll around looking for a fight. It seems that everyone is your enemy and you'll never want anyone to be a friend. You are a very sad and lonely person.

siledre
07-28-05, 04:55 PM
there is no purpose for having enemies, enemies occur due to the negative aspects of our nature.

Satyr
07-28-05, 06:41 PM
cosmictraveler
The only reason you have enemies is because you troll around looking for a fight. It seems that everyone is your enemy and you'll never want anyone to be a friend. You are a very sad and lonely person.I know, because the only place I can have “friends” in, is on internet Forums.
Like you.

Baron Max
07-28-05, 06:57 PM
The object for me is to convert America into a free nation that cultivates the environment and all humans prosperously under true justice.

But if it's to be a "free" nation, then if a citizen wanted to pollute a river or burn down a forest, who's to stop him? And if some DOES try to stop him, how can you call it free?

You also say "true justice" ...what is that? And who is to determine what it is? And what if some of the citizens don't agree with that justice?

You try to weave a perfect world, but then you imply that you're going to leave IM-perfect humans to occupy it and to work in it. How can you expect humans to all agree on anything? And if they don't, with it being a "free nation", you surely can't make them, can you?

I think you should re-think your ideals and try to see it in light of human weaknesses and human violence and human greed. 'Cause if you don't, you're just dreaming of utopia and fairy tales.

Baron Max

Roman
07-29-05, 05:03 AM
Purpose of enemies?

It's a pyschological repsonse to competition.

certified psycho
07-29-05, 12:21 PM
Anybody that thinks violence is going to work is on crack.
Nobody is going to listen to a peaceful protest. FIght for what you believe in.

ANd violence does work.

TruthSeeker
07-29-05, 04:22 PM
Violence works? Doesn't seem so. We tried that for millions of years. Maybe we should try something different? :rolleyes:

Cottontop3000
07-29-05, 05:00 PM
Violence works? Doesn't seem so. We tried that for millions of years. Maybe we should try something different? :rolleyes:


We can't, imo. Not humanly possible. For something different to work, I think we must become something more than human. If that is possible. I don't know.

TruthSeeker
07-29-05, 05:17 PM
In the word "can't" lies instant defeat... :rolleyes:

TruthSeeker
07-29-05, 05:18 PM
For something different to work, I think we must become something more than human. If that is possible. I don't know.
Yes. It is called "evolution".

Cottontop3000
07-29-05, 06:31 PM
Yes. It is called "evolution".

Right. We must evolve into something more than human.

lixluke
07-29-05, 07:37 PM
It seems that if something being oppressive, fakist, unjust, and destroying the environment are your points for making someone your enemy, i'd imagine you have an endless supply of enemies! Is it really that simple for you? You hate America because of those reasons?

Well obviously, the problem is that there is no reason for any single person in America to be living in destitution. The economic system in America is set up for destruction. America is an enemy that must be stopped. What more reason do you want?

lixluke
07-29-05, 07:42 PM
We can't, imo. Not humanly possible. For something different to work, I think we must become something more than human. If that is possible. I don't know.
We do not have to become anything.
Violence does not work.
Peace movements are a gazillion times more effective. Change occurs, and nobody gets hurt. It's win win. Violence is abusrd and is COMPLETELY ineffective in accomplishing anything. No change is made and everybody gets hurt.


I think you should re-think your ideals and try to see it in light of human weaknesses and human violence and human greed. 'Cause if you don't, you're just dreaming of utopia and fairy tales.

You have no concept of reality. The only fairy tale is your demented interpretation of reality. You have a primitive view on human nature.

Cottontop3000
07-29-05, 09:02 PM
We do not have to become anything.
Violence does not work.
Peace movements are a gazillion times more effective. Change occurs, and nobody gets hurt. It's win win. Violence is abusrd and is COMPLETELY ineffective in accomplishing anything. No change is made and everybody gets hurt.


It is my conclusion that Ghandi, Jesus and Mandela have gotten us nowhere. Same for Hitler, Bush and Blair. There is no real middle ground. Therefore, for us to save ourselves from ourselves, we must either evolve or die.

gendanken
07-29-05, 11:08 PM
The mass has therefore spoken:

The enemy is oppressive.
He is vile, disruptive, arrogant, inconsiderate.
The enemy is greedy.
He is everything your noble virtues find contaminating and apropos, the mass supposedly engenders the following philosophy:

Eradicate your enemy.
Convert your enemy.
Avoid your enemy.
Coexist with your enemy.
Join your enemy.

Really?
Given the power to, I'd destroy every last one of your enemies just to see how long before you bore and go looking for a new one.
Men are never so restless than when actually at rest- how long do you think it would take before the peace a man covets exposes the little secret of “enemies” being less about those he dislikes and more about keeping those he does like submissive if not active in that mutual like?

How long before that man realizes he needs something to protect- in what you all call friendship- in order to validate his significance in it?
How long before he realizes his need to use words like “intruder” and “oppression” and “evil’ so that alliances don't go flaccid from the lack of stimulation?

Look at what has happened to space enterprise now that the cold war is over and This Thing You Called Enemy has been eradicated.
Its as crippled as any old man that’s gone flaccid from a lack of stimulation.

Look what your brilliant president is feeding all you little piggies in the media- hateful fear in the name of thing Enemy.
Now look what he's doing with it.
Now look at what you let him.

Would the outcast be as loyal to fellow outcasts if one were to rid him of his powerful oppressors?
Being the power-hungry, aggressive little animal in denial of being the animal that his supposed enemies only are, he too would grow to hate the very things his oppressors did in those just like him and he too would seek that control.
Because, you see, the alliance was reactive.

Your “enemy”, therefore, does not represent so much an insult to your noble, noble values as much as ‘enemy’ represents your capitalistic vanity.
The “enemy” Gentiles serve this purpose for the Jew.

Further, Cool skill with no government to ridicule is Cool skill giving up a large constituent of what keeps him interesting to his friends. And therefore, in their interests.

lixluke
07-30-05, 06:06 PM
"Given the power to, I'd destroy every last one of your enemies just to see how long before you bore and go looking for a new one."
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That has completely nothing do with anything. You are presuming that if we are able to eliminate the enemy, we would go out of our way to create one out of the need for conflict. This typical arrogant presumption of yours has absolutely no basis in reality.

Come with something intelligent, and get off the facade.

Baron Max
07-30-05, 06:22 PM
Peace movements are a gazillion times more effective. Change occurs, and nobody gets hurt.

Name a few peace movements that have worked? I ain't familiar with any ...at least none that had any lasting effect on anything. But, please, name a few, I'm really interested.

Baron Max

lixluke
07-30-05, 07:47 PM
I'm not your research assistant. I will not sit here and list them all down for you. If you do not know any, than you obviously have NO CLUE what you are talking about, and are forming an opingion without any proper knowledge of peace movements.

Satyr
07-30-05, 08:02 PM
Gandhi…..that’s one

Cottontop3000
07-30-05, 08:45 PM
Jesus makes two.

gendanken
08-06-05, 02:14 PM
Cool Skillz:
That has completely nothing do with anything. You are presuming that if we are able to eliminate the enemy, we would go out of our way to create one out of the need for conflict. This typical arrogant presumption of yours has absolutely no basis in reality.

Yes, sir, it has everything to do with anything.

Those you view as antagonistic to your values are everything that you claim is NOT who you are.
Does the Jew look on the Gentile as virtuous? Of course not, but why?
Not because he's ever sat down in a Gentile's home or tent to judge for himself the character of his enemy but because himself being righteous and good and all things noble in the name of his Lord by definition the Gentile cannot be.

Therefore, those you classify as deceptive, selfish, malicious little animals are precisely that because you yourself believe your own stories of being an honest, selfless, somewhat noble individual that is not the animal your enemies engender.

Like the government.

To you, America cannot be anything you are. If you were the fattest boy in the cafeteria NO jock could be what you are as well.

So you end up sticking to people that think the same of themselves and you get a small commune of the so called humble and tolerant soooo into cutting the enemy down with righteous contempt that they don’t eve realize that 9 in 10 of their comrades aren’t even likeable.
I wonder how many jobless hippies and liberals with no drive and no goals other than those of showing up at rallies to bang their heads over “Liberté! Egalité!, Fraternity!” would even stick together if there were no government to cry against.

I wonder how long one aimless moron could stand the company of another one before he grows disgusted by the constant reminders of exactly who he himself is.

It takes barely days now for a socialist to lose all the air he’s pumped into his heroic ideals now that capitalism has proved to be his demise.
So your kind don’t even have to be jobless or aimless- I wonder how long one hypocritical libertine could stand to be in the company of another hypocritical libertine were it not for their enemies in common.

When you and your friends stand around regurgitating what they read in some liberal magazine or heard on a nationalist radio station and both of you know that you're plagiarizing and cannot think for yourselves , you sweep it under the rug and continue for the sake of tact and camaraderie.

You get to see what you are in that New Age imbecile with pretentious babble about the need to be selfless and giving and kind in the name of humanity everytime you catch him in little things where you see that he isn’t.

“Our instinctual cruelty often pushes peculiar individuals to society’s outskirts and sometimes shoves them out entirely, while it squeezes the rest of us into a conscious or unwitting team”- the Global Brain.

So, yes sir, it has EVERYTHING to do with it and I’ve written way more than intended but you see, you are precisely what to me is wrong with the world.

I got banned from this (http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/index.php?) forum for the simple fact that I did not shed pity or condolences like the million other members were on some stupid wench that got raped
Why shed pity on someone that's not only fishing for it, but does not know how ugly a virtue it is and does not see the irony in her being precisely the kind deserving of it seeing how even among strangers she'd prostitute her own soul?

I saw the noblest, nicest, sweetest little church ladies who claim to be so noble and nice and sweet bare their fangs at this one person "picking" on a wench that deserved to get raped.
And the views on that one thread shot up to over a thousand in one day.[/i]One[/i].
Yet word for word, phrase for phrase, however much one showed them exactly what it was they were doing the could not see it.

A piece of fucking work is man.

You hate those in power... why exactly? Can you even answer it truthfully?

Cottontop3000
08-06-05, 03:44 PM
Cool Skillz:


Yes, sir, it has everything to do with anything.

Those you view as antagonistic to your values are everything that you claim is NOT who you are.Hmm. Kind of like you. Who'd a thunk it? A seemingly conservative wench condemening others for what she/he/it is so good at her/him/itself.


Does the Jew look on the Gentile as virtuous?Depends on the Jew, does it not?


Of course not, but why?Thus, the rest of your argument is moot. I'll go on anyway. (Got something against Jews? Or do you wish you were one? Or are you one, deep down? Or should I substitute "black" for Jew?)


Not because he's ever sat down in a Gentile's home or tent to judge for himself the character of his enemy but because himself being righteous and good and all things noble in the name of his Lord by definition the Gentile cannot be.AGAIN, depends on the Jew.

Therefore, those you classify as deceptive, selfish, malicious little animals are precisely that because you yourself believe your own stories of being an honest, selfless, somewhat noble individual that is not the animal your enemies engender.
As opposed to those of us that are dishonest, selfish and somewhat ignoble individuals who hate almost everyone for the same reasons.

Like the government.Like weaklings.

To you, America cannot be anything you are. If you were the fattest boy in the cafeteria NO jock could be what you are as well.If you were the best-looking, most fit Jock in that same cafeteria, you could relate to the fattest boy in the cafeteria. If you had a reason too.

So you end up sticking to people that think the same of themselves and you get a small commune of the so called humble and tolerant soooo into cutting the enemy down with righteous contempt that they don’t eve realize that 9 in 10 of their comrades aren’t even likeable.
Who's cutting the enemy down here? Likeable? Are you likeable? Or do you just choose not to have any friends, like me, so you can cut everyone down?


I wonder how many jobless hippies and liberals with no drive and no goals other than those of showing up at rallies to bang their heads over “Liberté! Egalité!, Fraternity!” would even stick together if there were no government to cry against.I wonder how many conservatives you know like to keep them right where they are? Except of course when the liberals are in power of course. Then it's all-out war and dirty tactics. Non?

I wonder how long one aimless moron could stand the company of another one before he grows disgusted by the constant reminders of exactly who he himself is.Didn't take me long. How about you? Now, I'm beyond that point, saw what was wrong with me, and think I see some good in most people, if not all, now. Most of them, and myself, have just been misguided. Now, I still see what is so bad about us all but have a little more understanding, I like to hope.

It takes barely days now for a socialist to lose all the air he’s pumped into his heroic ideals now that capitalism has proved to be his demise.Oh, ho, this one I like. First, again, it depends on the socialist. Second. Do you actually think capitalism will be our last and best attempt at societal structure? If you do, I am wondering even more about you now.


So your kind don’t even have to be jobless or aimless-I like the way you changed your thinkng. One can almost see the wheels in your head spinning, trying to cover all the bases.

I wonder how long one hypocritical libertine could stand to be in the company of another hypocritical libertine were it not for their enemies in common.
This goes even more so for hypocritical conservatives, I would think. They seem to be even less in touch with themselves than these "libertines." I mean, who is living in a fantasy world, after all? Guess this could apply just as much to some liberals, and libertines, but I feel that conservatives tend to take it to more of an extreme, on the whole.


When you and your friends stand around regurgitating what they read in some liberal magazine or heard on a nationalist radio station and both of you know that you're plagiarizing and cannot think for yourselves , you sweep it under the rug and continue for the sake of tact and camaraderie.
This sounds like something between you and CoolSkill. I won't comment.


So, yes sir, it has EVERYTHING to do with it and I’ve written way more than intended but you see, you are precisely what to me is wrong with the world.
As if those like you, or me, have nothing to do with it. It always takes at least two to fight. You should know this.


I got banned from this (http://www.scienceforums.net/forums/index.php?) forum for the simple fact that I did not shed pity or condolences like the million other members were on some stupid wench that got raped I doubt there was not a build-up to your banning. She must have been a really stupid wench. Petain, how dare her! What else was her motivation?



Why shed pity on someone that's not only fishing for it, but does not know how ugly a virtue it is and does not see the irony in her being precisely the kind deserving of it seeing how even among strangers she'd prostitute her own soul?
I don't know the case specifically, but could she not have been instead looking for guidance or help, like me, in a place she had not tried for help before. You brought it up. Why do you think she was prostituting her own soul on an internet forum? Purging? Pity? Redemption? Condolences? Guidance? Tell me. I would like to know your thoughts.


I saw the noblest, nicest, sweetest little church ladies who claim to be so noble and nice and sweet bare their fangs at this one person "picking" on a wench that deserved to get raped.
At least you don't claim to be noble, nice, sweet or a little church lady, right? I, like you, think this little pathetic wench DESERVED to get raped. God damn her to hell for daring not to!


And the views on that one thread shot up to over a thousand in one day.[/i]One[/i].
Yet word for word, phrase for phrase, however much one showed them exactly what it was they were doing the could not see it.
Hmmm. Wonder of wonders. Humans faking sincere pity. How horrible it must have been for you to have experienced such a thing?! Damn, Gendy, give me their user-names and I'll go make sure they pay for their crimes! What could possibly be worse? Them actually being sincere?
A piece of fucking work is man.
STUPIDITY.
Yes, dear, I see it all around. Sometimes it comes here. As gees/zer might agree.

You hate those in power... why exactly? Can you even answer it truthfully?For me, personally, because they are sooooooooo fucking greedy and corrupt, whereas I am not. :)

Mr.Jack4WAR
08-06-05, 03:54 PM
In the real world, in which countries follow these types of governments:.. Dictatorship:a cruel organization that dictates a country thro violence and torment, so they have no chose. or a bunch of raging hippies that r stoned trying to save the enviroment. hmm i have never heard of that peaceful country that hippies live in. OH MY GOD! THERE IS ONE! canada!! they mooch off america, and kiss their enemie's asses! BY GOD! ..

Xylene
08-06-05, 04:02 PM
Right. We must evolve into something more than human.

The trouble then becomes--if you have evolved into something more than Human, you still have the same problem. Assuming that your mind evolves at the same rate as your body, you're still going to be carrying around the same ideas. We might have come out of the caves and taken over the world, and shaped it to our liking--but we're still walking around with the cave-man mentality of smashing our neighbours over the head if we disagree with them. :mad: :rolleyes: Those with the power of gods need the morality of angels--and angelic morality is pretty thin on the ground in the Human world. ;)

Cottontop3000
08-06-05, 04:15 PM
Xylene. I agree. What I am talking about though, is something more along the lines of what Cris thinks. Humans evolving into say, machine. Or machine body and human, or maybe somewhat different than human, brain. Maybe somehow just take the best of the human brain. Ah, but there are so many difficulties that arise from this.

Maybe a mutated type of human. That somehow is able to take control for the improvement of mankind. I don't really know. Just thinking out loud now. Maybe something that happens to survivors of a world-wide nuclear holocaust. Some new way to look at us and our place on this planet and in this universe.

I know, sounds to sci-fi -ish, but what the hell. We never know till it happens, it seems. :)

Edit: Mr.Jack4WAR, Canada Rocks MOFO! :D :bugeye:

gendanken
08-06-05, 05:00 PM
Cottontop:

Will I be wasting my time even replying to you, is the question.
Did you reply to me just to poke or do you really want me to answer your questions?

Cottontop3000
08-06-05, 05:03 PM
Cottontop:

Will I be wasting my time even replying to you, is the question.
Did you reply to me just to poke or do you really want me to answer your questions?

It's up to you. Got the energy? I'd like you to reply.

TruthSeeker
08-07-05, 12:22 PM
In the real world, in which countries follow these types of governments:.. Dictatorship:a cruel organization that dictates a country thro violence and torment, so they have no chose. or a bunch of raging hippies that r stoned trying to save the enviroment. hmm i have never heard of that peaceful country that hippies live in. OH MY GOD! THERE IS ONE! canada!! they mooch off america, and kiss their enemie's asses! BY GOD! ..
Enemies? Who? :confused:

lixluke
08-08-05, 03:16 PM
“Yes, sir, it has everything to do with anything.”
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No it doesn’t. You haven’t even provided proof for this assertion. Just a sea of irrelevant ad-hom. Even digging through all the irrelevant ad-hom, there is nothing in terms of backing up your assertion. Unless you actually believe ad-hom works to back it up. If so, it’s pretty pathetic. Anybody that tries to prove their point with ad-hom is clearly delusional.


The purpose of enemies is not rooted in some assumed “inherent necessity for variety in the form of conflict. The assertion about human nature having some inherent necessity for antagonization is baseless, pointless, and impractical. It’s not realistic in any sense. Some individuals might have some psychological need for conflict, but this is not a social norm. It is an exception.

In certain situations, an individual may have self destructive tendencies, and create conflicts when unnecessary. Many personal relationships for example suffer because of this. The parties in the relationship may not be enemies. They may even be close friends, but conflict may arise because of an individuals personal problems that lie beneath their conscious rationalizations for conflict. In this case, the apparent said reason for the conflict is not the real reason.

There are also situations in which a person may be perfectly normal, but do to internal stressors, may react by creating conflict using a scapegoat for doing so.

Regardless, the fact is this: Humans do not as a social norm go out of their way to create conflict. If they so, it is because of some underlying factor. Other than the exceptions, humans generally do not want or need conflict. Conflict generally arises for many reasons that have nothing to with a person going out of their way to find a scapegoat to create it. Humans do not have a need to constantly have an enemy. As if one might not feel right because he doesn’t have one, and therefore, creates one. That is not a rule of human nature. That is an exception to the rule. Humans do not have any need for an enemy. Humans might have a need for a purpose, but that is different from an enemy in conflict.

When an individual does have an enemy: whether or not that enemy considers that individual to be their enemy, there can be a wide variety of reasons for it. Perhaps the person was treated wrong by this enemy. Perhaps this enemy is in the person’s way. Perhaps this person is going along with a crowd, and doesn’t even know this individual that he considers his enemy. Perhaps the person really is using this enemy as a scapegoat because he has some underlying personal problems. Whatever the case may be, not all conflicts reside in some assumed need of human nature to have an enemy. This is a baseless unfounded completely false presumption.

Many conflicts arise for many reasons that are not based on the false presumption that humans have need to have an enemy. The false presumption that they do is a warped outlook on human nature which is a demented slant on reality that has no basis in reality.

According to the false assumption, it is human nature to constantly have an enemy to be in conflict with. Therefore, the individual would not feel right or have a sense of purpose unless he has some sort of enemy. Therefore the individual creates an enemy, and a rationalized justification for considering this entity to be an enemy. This the absolutely warmed and demented outlook on reality.

In actuality, there is nothing about human nature that constantly needs an enemy to be in conflict with. Individuals have absolutely no inherent need for some sort of enemy in order to have a purpose. Individuals may or may not be reasonable when it comes to a particular entity in which they consider an enemy, but it has nothing to do with some demented false aspect of human nature.

lixluke
08-08-05, 03:17 PM
“Those you view as antagonistic to your values are everything that you claim is NOT who you are.”
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An antagonist is any enemy one might have.
There may be all kinds of reasons.
Or are you just on an ad-hom rant. Pathetic really.
Can’t think of a decent argument. Therefore, ad-hom is your way out.
Sorry. FALSE!


“Therefore, those you classify as deceptive, selfish, malicious little animals are precisely that because you yourself believe your own stories of being an honest, selfless, somewhat noble individual that is not the animal your enemies engender.
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Depends on the person and what they believe.
Either way, the purpose remains.


“To you, America cannot be anything you are. If you were the fattest boy in the cafeteria NO jock could be what you are as well.”
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Trying to decipher this statement.
Whatever it means, it doesn’t matter.
Looks irrelevant anyway.


“So you end up sticking to people that think the same of themselves and you get a small commune of the so called humble and tolerant soooo into cutting the enemy down with righteous contempt that they don’t eve realize that 9 in 10 of their comrades aren’t even likeable.”
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What does this mean, and how does it relate to anything?


“I wonder how many jobless hippies and liberals with no drive and no goals other than those of showing up at rallies to bang their heads over “Liberté! Egalité!, Fraternity!” would even stick together if there were no government to cry against.”
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Who cares? All of them would. None of them would. IRRELEVANT.


“I wonder how long one aimless moron could stand the company of another one before he grows disgusted by the constant reminders of exactly who he himself is.”
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WTF? OK. How long?
Who knows. Do you plan on making any sense?
Oh you mean a moron such as yourself?


“It takes barely days now for a socialist to lose all the air he’s pumped into his heroic ideals now that capitalism has proved to be his demise.
So your kind don’t even have to be jobless or aimless- I wonder how long one hypocritical libertine could stand to be in the company of another hypocritical libertine were it not for their enemies in common.
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You sure wonder about a lot of stuff:
“I wonder how many jobless hippies. . .”
“I wonder how long one aimless moron. . .”
“I wonder how long one hypocritical libertine. . .”

You have no idea what the answer is, and will never know. Will you ever have a point? Or are you only interested in ad-hom. If so, then I would assume, you will never have a point. Nobody takes ad-hom seriously, and nobody should. You clearly need to attack others to feel better about yourself. Is it working? Too bad. It isn’t proving anything either.


“When you and your friends stand around regurgitating what they read in some liberal magazine or heard on a nationalist radio station and both of you know that you're plagiarizing and cannot think for yourselves , you sweep it under the rug and continue for the sake of tact and camaraderie. “
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Sounds nice. But don’t all dreams. Either way, ad-hom.
Baseless.


“So, yes sir, it has EVERYTHING to do with it and I’ve written way more than intended but you see, you are precisely what to me is wrong with the world.”
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Wrong. I’ve already stated in many places that the biggest thing holding back progress is the fakist. Those that believe temporality is reality, and prevent progress for the sake of unfounded assumptions.


“I got banned from this forum for the simple fact that I did not shed pity or condolences like the million other members were on some stupid wench that got raped
Why shed pity on someone that's not only fishing for it, but does not know how ugly a virtue it is and does not see the irony in her being precisely the kind deserving of it seeing how even among strangers she'd prostitute her own soul?”
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How unfortunate. Who cares?
Either way, the fault is never the victim. 100% of the fault is the aggressor.
That is if she really was raped.


“I saw the noblest, nicest, sweetest little church ladies who claim to be so noble and nice and sweet bare their fangs at this one person "picking" on a wench that deserved to get raped.
And the views on that one thread shot up to over a thousand in one day.[/i]One[/i].
Yet word for word, phrase for phrase, however much one showed them exactly what it was they were doing the could not see it.”
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Like anybody really cares. Happens all the time. Get over it. I’m sure you’ll also enjoy sipfans.com.


“You hate those in power... why exactly? Can you even answer it truthfully?”
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Is it that hard to figure out? I thought it was pretty obvious.
They have no idea what they are doing.
They are corrupt.
The rich rob the poor. The poor pay the rich for whatever they need to consume. The rich pay the poor for whatever labor needed. The transaction greatly favors the rich. The poor are short changed. The gap increases.

In case you haven’t figured it out, this is how it works:
Power = Responsibility.
If I all of a sudden get some sort of supernatural powers for example, I can use it to either take advantage of others or use it responsibly.
Those in power use their power to take advantage of others. They have no clue what they are doing. They are all children.
Those in power do nothing but live what they believe to be perfectly acceptable in the meantime, screwing others over, and destroying the earth in the process. This is socially acceptable.
The docile believe this is fine, and they accept the abuse from those in power because they believe it is in human nature that they would do the same in their shoes. The oppressors tell the underprivileged that they should appreciate what they have. Especially in the USA where the underprivileged although oppressed, have it better than other countries. Meanwhile, the docile, accept it, and tell other oppressed people to appreciate that they are being taken care of well. The slave that appreciates being enslaved because his master treats him better than other masters. Such docility makes them wonder why any one would resent such a good life.
You have to be really dumb to ask a question about why resent those in power. I would be a docile fool not to.
I shall repost my model: http://www.caliditta.com/principals.htm

§outh§tar
08-08-05, 03:32 PM
It's nice to see enemies bash each other in this thread.

Delicious.

lixluke
08-20-05, 10:49 AM
What would you propose be the solution?

Baron Max
08-20-05, 12:35 PM
It's nice to see enemies bash each other in this thread.

Well, it just shows, I suppose, that we all need "enemies", doesn't it? I mean, why else would this thread turn so hateful if we were all as idealistic as we portend?

Perhaps we should start a thread on why Internet forum posters seem to get so angry and upset and pissed off (exhibiting violent behavior even?) .........all because of a few words appearing on their computer monitors ....as they read in the comforts of their own homes. Interesting, huh?

Baron Max

Cottontop3000
08-26-05, 01:12 PM
Perhaps we should start a thread on why Internet forum posters seem to get so angry and upset and pissed off (exhibiting violent behavior even?) .........all because of a few words appearing on their computer monitors ....as they read in the comforts of their own homes. Interesting, huh?
Baron Max

Is it really all that interesting, baron? Or is this your lame attempt to act "better" than the rest of us? Because you really are a pussy and a coward. "a few words appearing on their computer monitors ...." Words, like mine, create conflict. Words, like mine, create anger and violence. Thoughts, opinions, words cause racial hatred. At least mine are directed at racists. Of all races. Old man, why don't you come to my house and say this shit? Because you have been a coward your whole life? Or because it is easy to hide behind a monitor while being the same little pathetic coward? I fucking hate racists with a passion and if I have to call you on the floor for it, as that is the only thing that gets your god-damned blood boiling, then I will continue to do it for as long as I am able. Moron. Get a fucking clue, man. You can change. It's alright. Tell your mammy and pappy to fuck off for a change. Feel the power. :)