If God is the alpha and omega (beginning and end) what is the end if you are infinite. (go to heaven or hell) and stay there forever.

if you are the beginning and the end (alpha and omega). who is god?

If something is infinite , there is no end ...
God is an abstract term , invented by man - in else, Man created god ....

very easy questions .....

If God is the alpha and omega (beginning and end) what is the end if you are infinite. (go to heaven or hell) and stay there forever.
look at this Earth, yeah? it is spherical shaped right. now, if say you set off from your house right now and walked about, you bacially culd walk about infinitely......yes? cuse there is no 'end point'.....where on a sphere is 'the end'....at the end of a linear track there might be, but world aint that

so feel, think spherically, spirally

also heat and cold. at extremes of bth tey chage tnto te polar opposite. think of light and dark. have a look at today. see what light and dark does. is there anywhee you can say hand on heart 'all is totally light' or totlly dark? not only can you see the subtle mergings of te 'abstracts we call 'light' 'dark' but even at its darkest you can see light flecks called by scince 'photons' and in te lightest day you can still see shadows......then you have twilight of course.....so ligh dark ligh dark etc IS infinite. if you say 'just light' 'just dark' then each bcomes FINITE dont it?...it takess twooo abaaaby

look at this Earth, yeah? it is spherical shaped right. now, if say you set off from your house right now and walked about, you bacially culd walk about infinitely......yes? cuse there is no 'end point'.....where on a sphere is 'the end'....at the end of a linear track there might be, but world aint that

ie. Whats north of the North Pole?

look at this Earth, yeah? it is spherical shaped right. now, if say you set off from your house right now and walked about, you bacially culd walk about infinitely......yes? cuse there is no 'end point'.....where on a sphere is 'the end'....at the end of a linear track there might be, but world aint thatare you saying time is spherical?

If God is the alpha and omega (beginning and end) what is the end if you are infinite. (go to heaven or hell) and stay there forever.
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M*W: The 'alpha' and the 'omega' do not represent the literal beginning and end. When the alpha reaches the omega, the omega is simply the beginning again. It's a cyclic universe. There is no 'beginning' and there will be no 'end.' In other words, it's cosmological recycling every 25,800 years. The 'alpha and the omega' refers to a complete cycle of the constellations around the sun. Each Sun Sign lasts about 2,150 years. The stories of Abraham arose during the Age of Aries (the ram/lamb) and focused on the sacrifice of the 'lamb' instead of his son Isaac. Also in the Sign of Aries, Abraham's son Ishmael was sent away with his mother Hagar. That, too, was symbolic of a mythical sacrifice. The stories of Moses came about in the Age of Taurus (the bull/calf). Moses was represented by the bull, and he destroyed the golden calf. Mithras was also represented during this age with the bull.

Our life cycle on Earth is infinite since we pass down our living DNA, but there is no heaven and no hell. These are symbolic, too. With the universe being cyclic, why should any god be needed?

With the universe being cyclic, why should any god be needed?

but it doesn't explain where the stuff comes from... by god the religions mean the self...

but it doesn't explain where the stuff comes from... by god the religions mean the self...
are you your self? is there something greater than your self?

are you your self?

what? of course i am, what else would i be.

is there something greater than your self?

greater? the same self is within everyone, the difference is that all people don't know themselves completely.

greater? the same self is within everyone, the difference is that all people don't know themselves completely.
if it is the same self how is their a difference?

ie. Whats north of the North Pole?
this is where LANGUAGE stops ya in yer tracks. see thru it and keep walkin....

are you saying time is spherical?
we cant just say 'time' now but 'spacetime'.......and yes it is hyperspherical and multidimensional

Originally posted by Lord Insane
very easy questions .....Obviously not because you posted this...Man created god .......which simply is not true.

Obviously not because you posted this......which simply is not true.

Please prove your statement, that it is not true that Man created god ....

I am just curious .....

And please remember, that the Bible was written by man not God ....

we cant just say 'time' now but 'spacetime'.......and yes it is hyperspherical and multidimensional
why cant we just say time? what happened to time?

why cant we just say time? what happened to time?
whay cant we just say space? what happened to space?

if it is the same self how is their a difference?

The body makes a difference. The body limits how much the self can express itself.

whay cant we just say space? what happened to space?
i can just say space why cant you? as far as i know nothing happened to sapce or time. so why do you say we cannot say time anymore?

are you reffering to the 24hour licensing laws? you are working in pub????????

The body makes a difference. The body limits how much the self can express itself.
stay with me. do you have any other way of expressing this?
is the self then the soul? the self is the son of god? the father has not taken form. the mother has taken form. the mother is the body? does this work for you? yes / no / why ? ? ?

is this a problem for you?

stay with me. do you have any other way of expressing this?
is the self then the soul?

I don't know what people mean by the soul. Some people say that the soul is the personality or consciousness and some say it's immortal and equal to God.

the self is the son of god?

Yeah, the one which we have crucified between space and time (the material world)

the father has not taken form. the mother has taken form. the mother is the body? does this work for you? yes / no / why ? ? ?

I don't know what you mean by father and mother. There is only one God which has taken infinite forms.

I don't know what people mean by the soul. Some people say that the soul is the personality or consciousness and some say it's immortal and equal to God. iam with you there the word has become so confused / corrupt...avoid it!

Yeah, the one which we have crucified between space and time (the material world)i feel this too.



I don't know what you mean by father and mother. There is only one God which has taken infinite forms.so....the form.....is also....the self? the body is god too?

you see what i notice though, where you say...the self....that, like the word soul, has become confused/corrupted. it is not always understood the way you understand it.

MAn did not create God.
We jsut put a name on it. MAny diffrent religions most of witch are based on the same thing have diffrent names for it but it still is based on the same thing.. I could call God tomatoes if I wanted but it is still there the name is jsut to reconize and to and communicate...

so....the form.....is also....the self? the body is god too?

The body is more like an instrument for God. God, the self, clothes itself in matter. Clothes are not the same thing as YOU, but people identify themselves with their body, so they become very much like them. Most of us have forgotten that we are a free mind instead of a limited body.

(^),...When people--for example the pre-reformed Dionysians took their psychedelic sacrament which had names referring to sacred mushroom/Dionysos the celebrants believed they were 'possessed' of god of Nature.......this feeling happened IN the body. the body chewing, drinking sacrament, and then is ingestion and ecstatic FEELINGS with others , AS sensual body, AS sensual Nature.

When this becme reformed by the Orphics they abstract god to ''G'od'--a 'divine being' said to be apart, and that our bodies have parts of him trapped as 'divine sparks......can you not see the danger of this idea????.....eventually even psychedelic sacrament is diluted, and later phased out, and all thats left is dry ritual, symbols, and a desire to escape and 'return to 'God'', and the sense of not being GUILTY cause one is trapped in a body. Orphic saying was 'soma sema' meaning 'the body a tomb'!!......that belif system influences Christianity, right??
in Christianity we have the guilt about the body, now termed in Pauline Myth as the 'flesh'....different term same objective. which is to denigrate instinct, sensuality, and see an ' everlasting END' in some spirit-world.......This is diastrous propaganda for individual, community and Nature, cause it divdes you from your body, community, and Nature, and denies you your rightful freedom to freely explore all of this wonder with symbiosis of a psychedelic sacrament.

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so soul reall means FEELING. what the cults, religions, political ideologies have done/are doing is..DUMBing you'll down! also NUMBing yo down.

so soul reall means FEELING. to some people it means this, to some people it does not.


what the cults, religions, political ideologies have done/are doing is..DUMBing you'll down! also NUMBing yo down.
no one is doing anything of the sort to me. why are you letting them do it to you?

The body is more like an instrument for God. God, the self, clothes itself in matter. Clothes are not the same thing as YOU, but people identify themselves with their body, so they become very much like them. Most of us have forgotten that we are a free mind instead of a limited body. but you also seem to be saying that these bodies are the form god has chosen to take? there must be a reason for this, do you think?

man did not create god, we jsut gave it a name, with many diffrent religions most of witch are based on the same things they call god diffrent things,but in all acutallity it is the same thing. I could call God tomatoes if I wanted but you would still know what I was talking about. The name is jsut used for communication and reconition...

to some people it means this, to some people it does not.

me))))))ie., means 'soul is feeling'....well to those it does not it does not, but that dont mean they right.

no one is doing anything of the sort to me. why are you letting them do it to you?
Why do you assume they are doing it to me?
i HAVE had it done to me in the past, and such experience impassioned me to investigate the myths and explor seeing thru them....an ongoing learning

but you also seem to be saying that these bodies are the form god has chosen to take? there must be a reason for this, do you think?
ellion? tat is not my quote. it is C7iti's quote........hummmmpgh, concentrate

What is the end..??

The end of what?..?

G.

but you also seem to be saying that these bodies are the form god has chosen to take? there must be a reason for this, do you think?

I'm not sure if I know what you're talking about. God doesn't choose anything, he doesn't have free will. The self clothes itself in all possible forms because it IS all those forms, from the lowest to the highest. Those forms reflect its infinity. The vedanta says: "God expresses his infinity"