Seems as though photons are conscious and can make threads disappear like magic from this forum!!

Or is it just that people here are banned from questioning the standard model of quantum theory that doesn't explain how light is the way that it is?

In which case this forum has nothing to do with science, I very much fear.

..can make threads disappear like magic ...
Your thread was moved into cesspool (http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76091).

Your thread was moved into cesspool (http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=76091).

And if you'll go and read through it, you'll easily see why it's there...

Poor John.
Doesn't know that this is a science forum.

light is hope

And if you'll go and read through it, you'll easily see why it's there...
That's true, but my posts were deleted from there even before that thread was drained.

John---

My original intent was to cesspool the conscious photons thread after the first post (and if you read my first reply, I belive I said something to that effect). However, I thought there were some interesting questions about non-local effects that could be asked, and so there was some potential for some good discussion. Again, I believe I said something along those lines in my first post.

As Read-Only said---if you read through the posts, you'll see why it was Cesspooled.

I'll read through it but probably still won't see why you cesspooled it :o

May have been because I brought up that interesting reality of the nonphoton...
Which I should probably refrain from doing, unless I really really want.

Seems as though photons are conscious and can make threads disappear like magic from this forum!!

Are you saying the photon must "know" when to appear and disappear? I just searched and found a thread the Conscious Photon Theory (CPT). I was wondering if photons reappear or new photons are emitted to form the threads.

See http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=19998&st=0&#entry301063

I'm of the opinion that there are no such things as photons. They are a mental crutch used to explain how an EM wave might propogate without a medium.
I am of the opinion that the "photon" does not know anything. Its just forced to leave its potential existence and enter actual existence as a result of it being observed.

What is light?
Light is basically an electromagnetic wave. Let me cut and paste an edited potion from another of my posts:


"So what IS an electromagnetic wave?
Consider an electromagnetic wave existing in otherwise empty space.
You have an electromagnetic potential alternating in magnitude at
various frequencies. A changing electromagnetic potential.
What is an electromagnetic potential? That's how hard a charged
something would be pulled upon if said charged something happened to
be within the influence of the electromagnetic field. The charged something doesn't
have to actually exist within the influence of the electromagnetic field.
If so, everything derives from variously convoluted electromagnetic potentials.
Forces that WOULD be exerted IF specific conditions are met.
Potentials.
Things that may be.
Nothing?"

I'm of the opinion that there are no such things as photons.


Explain then that when your body feels as if it is dying, that your movement is not within the existence of a photon?

"Explain then that when your body feels as if it is dying, that your movement is not within the existence of a photon?"
WTF?
Could you please rephrase this such that I don't need LSD to respond?

Sure.

Take your bobane above post:
I'm of the opinion that there are no such things as photons.

Take my above propane post:
Explain then that when your body feels as if it is dying, that your movement is not within the existence of a photon?

Mix them together and you get a train coast.
The fact that, I am making something specific to you that you refuse to see, is evidence that you will refuse to answer this post as well.
You won't accept your own body as having a photon existing within it when you are feeling your body die, such as in a state of severe bodily conditioning caused by mental distress.
If you can't accept that, then well, you can't accept that a photon would be at a center point to your movement. That your bodily movements are not, so to speak, restricted to a photon. Or that your very skull is conditionend by a photon!

Existabrent-

September for ice cream has no bones.
For example: Should I row my canoe with pigeon feathers thru the smog is to copulate asexually. And this is important!
Now, as it were, back to back we face each other and pull out our knives to shoot one another.
As such i can only conclude you are right,
Please forgive.

Does depend upon your conditions of percieving how you will throw that knife.

If you were able to forgive, christ. Let's hope that nonsense you just typed up has some meaning. I can't find any. Mine, however, above... shows that the body is a condition of death, in a certain circumstance so to say. If this is so, then well, obviously durring a state of dying you will percieve your movements, and you will feel the photons.

I hope that this has explained anything to you, big man?

Let me step up the sarcasm to a level you may actually percieve. Consider this:

Boogety boogety boogety. THpppppppt!. Beep zing bonk.
humina humina humina nyuck nyuck nyuck.
Zip bing wow!

What is sad is that if you read this entire thread I'm still making more sense than you.

Some nonsensical delusion which may have come to you in a drug or psychosis induced epiphany are impossible to explain as your attempts illustrate. I'm sorry but whatever you are attempting to babble exists only in your mind.

So, like I said before, you are right and I am wrong.

Some nonsensical delusion which may have come to you in a drug or psychosis induced epiphany are impossible to explain as your attempts illustrate. I'm sorry but whatever you are attempting to babble exists only in your mind.

So, like I said before, you are right and I am wrong.

No, Mike :)

Let me explain the concept.
Say for example, your mind has been twisted from so much torment. The mind is you know able to be tormented? All people are the same. If you went through some of the same torment that I go through, then you might see that some of these things are possible to experience. For example. You were tormented greatly. Upon being greatly tormented you find yourself action paralized, inability to have productive change, and many things like that which all go together. Including debilitation. Later along the road somebody tells you (as all people are really the same), that your only power is death, because you can't accept the energy on the ground, you can't accept the energy, there have been dramatic energy exchanges. You can't accept the energy? You die! So, your only power is in death then?

Going to sleep one of those nights I had experienced incresed awareness of this movement thing, as well as increased awareness of my own skull, and started seeing my eye in a way that it looked like it was on the bottom of my self.

Like, INSIDE my head. Totally odd, I know. And no, I am no druggie or anything, just been through a lot of torment as if you can't tell (you for one may percieve my 3000+ posts as a great achievement for a forum, and have your own ideas about me however, most of my posts have not been from my self what so ever. So. Be priviledged. You perhaps may be one of the first ones that hears how I actually feel. ... Although I had tried to explain it, a person can only use one language :p)

As I said. The self conscious thing.
I was sleeping, and the movement I felt was restricted to a photons movement.
I see now the absurdity now in what I have typed.

You are not wrong, but I feel that the body has a photon attached to it, at its weakest movement.
In a certain situation.

I could be entirely mistaken and appologise for all the personal comments in this thread, take it away big man.

I do feel privileged. If I could edit your post I would take it off this forum before the next viewer could read it and I would keep it for myself.
The perspective of torment helps me somehow. I can imagine the state you describe in a general manner. You felt an oscillating energy in your body. A movement. The conceptual image of a photon came to your mind. It fit the movement. And it was linked to your being. It was a part of you you had discovered.
Whether I believe this to be true outside of your experience much less to the extent it could be argued scientifically is irrelevant.
I now understand (don't I?) what you were saying. Sorry to mock it.
Really.

I would have mocked the living hell out of me... you must be kidding.

I was mocking the living hell out of you but now it seems a bit petty. Yer alright by me. Now lets both go mock others cuz I'm startin to feel a little gay.
If that RedArmy guy gets wind of it he'll draw naughty pictures of our back sides swelled up.

:D
Deal.