What is Evil?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Jozen-Bo, May 16, 2008.

  1. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    In your own words can you explain what the essence of evil is? Is it possible that evil can change? Is it even real?

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  3. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    So...this is going slow. It is evil to ignore evil, is it not?
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Evil doesn't exist.
     
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  7. Elucinatus Registered Member

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    I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us.
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Holy shit..
     
  9. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    Bump
     
  10. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    I am uncertain if that is dispelling evil as an illusion or confirming its reality. Which is it?
     
  11. Elucinatus Registered Member

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    If you are familiar of Francis Ford Coppola's 'Apocalypse Now', that was dialogue by Marlon Brando, who in the movie plays Walter E. Kurtz, an American colonel who went insane and leads an army of Vietnamese natives who worship him like a God. The story of course was originally 'Heart of Darkness', by Joseph Conrad.

    I'm pretty sure Marlon Brando is just ranting about how you must learn how to cope with evil, and use it when it is necessary, lest you end up in constant fear of it.
     
  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Bush II
     
  13. Jozen-Bo The Wheel Spinning King!!! Registered Senior Member

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    When does one act upon or against it?
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Evil is when people do stuff that's really bad.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Excellenent thread JB. I am going outdoors for awhile but yes absolutely evil does, infact, exist.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What is really bad ?
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    In what form... ?
    Who or what is evil in your opinion ?
     
  18. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you know?
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.. evil doesn't exist as anything absolute.
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Correct.
     
  21. John99 Banned Banned

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    ha ha ha. Good one. Well i am less inclined to dwell on demons and connections to supernatural events because i just dont feel it anymore. At one time i thought that maybe i would get a definitive answer but now i just feel that if they wanted us to know than they would be more obvious about it. And TBH, all my research has been pretty meaningless but i am conscious not to cross any lines or open up the wrong door.

    In relation to manifestations of evil pertaining to human behavior:

    This is a much more difficult call.

    Although this ghost video has been widely viewed perhap you have not seen it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6eXUTyZ_Jc

    The first time i watched it i was pretty impressed bu then when i watched it on youtube i was able to pause it and i think you see where the frame of old lady pops in. So if you were to go frame by frame you would see the image pop in more clearly but then on the other hand perhaps i am seeinfg it worng...you cannot go frame by frame in yourube.

    Fake or NOT?

    Be that as it may, i can see a relationship between evil and ghosts.

    Now if there are ghosts, and i can say that a few times i have exoperienced a presence. One time it came and sat at the foot of my bed and another time i was roughed up a bit. Sat on my chest and scratched my leg with its sharp nails. Also, my mouth filled up with blood, i coud taste that rustly bllod taste as i struggled to be released. That was scary. And the bad part is that I dont know if i was dreaming or if it was real because it comes right at that time when you are dozing off and if you try...ah, i shoudnt say anymore but perhaps you have called up them yourself. Like i said, luckily this does not happen anymore but and if anythbing i have lost the ability to manifest (call) an entity, they left hanging around me or it is in remission.

    In summation, there is a good chance evil exists.

    Maybe later on we can discuss evil more in depth but this is a little touchy too too far into.
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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    evil is that which is immoral and judicially not sound
     
  23. John99 Banned Banned

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    Not really.
     

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