Have a few good ideas.
Have thoughts about the whole experience.
But they are not entirely valid.
Because I am not certain

Any more thoughts so I can get a picture?

Only one way to find out...

From what I gather, you get the "near-death" experience as the brain starts to die from lack of blood etc.

This can be anything from heaven to hell to just ....nothing depending on what you believe. I do wonder though - how long it lasts, ahhh relatively speaking. People have reported a far longer "timeline" than the 1-2min of brain death could attest to. Perhaps it could seem like ...forever.

I get the picture that when you die, after you are gone, things are very terrible :/
Any validating this idea?

Any thoughts about it rather

Well for yourself, no more terrible, I think than say before you were alive.

Not Moving. Moving. Not Moving.

Surely, different tricks for different folks.

Eh?... *****

So, it is a certainty written in gods name that when one dies one has no pain or no suffering.

whatsoever

Minus the whole being in hell thought :D

Have a few good ideas.
Have thoughts about the whole experience.
But they are not entirely valid.
Because I am not certain

Any more thoughts so I can get a picture?

Actually nothing happens after you die. Everyone keeps on doing whatever they were doing before you died and you are just smoke.

The experience of being dead would be the same as the experience of sleeping without dreaming... in other words a complete absence of experience.

Basically you go up to the gates of heaven and ask to be let in. Some guy at the entrance (a bouncer I think) checks your ID and against the invite list and if you are on it, you get in. If not you will be turned away, forced to seek refuge in some of the less trendy hotspots in town, of which there is only one (and they water down the drinks). But they do have heating.

Basically you go up to the gates of heaven and ask to be let in. Some guy at the entrance (a bouncer I think) checks your ID and against the invite list and if you are on it, you get in. If not you will be turned away, forced to seek refuge in some of the less trendy hotspots in town, of which there is only one (and they water down the drinks). But they do have heating.

I like this answer. Should there be an actual place for a "soul", if it were to exhist, there is no reason that new life should be much different than this one: I.E: Not fair.

We wake up, we go to sleep; we are born, we die. Just natural cycles of the same thing.
Although I have no clue of what happens after death, it is kinda weird to believe in anything about it; if I would believe in something, the doubt would be covered with something made up, fake.
I think this question would be like answering: "What happens when we are born?", that we kinda know because we have lived it, but at the same time nobody is born under the same circumstances and the same thing does not happen to everyone. For example: some kids die after they are born, some are born with weir disceases, some are born under water, some are born in a hospital, at home; and after that, who knows what is going to happen to the kid? He will grow up (or not), he will be healthy (or not), etc..

Think of it this way: the universe is a finite set of resources, you could easily die and 'reappear' somewhere within the unvierse's parameters again.
Reincarnation actually makes alot of sense, there's no real reason why you should be 'self-experiencing' as you and not say your mother. Self-experience or 'being' is a very distinct and seperate quality of existance. You can say youre experiencing life as you - but thats about all you can say, the body and various biological forces that drive you dont really define you atall. The only reason you think of your body as 'you' is because youre self-experiencing through it.
Change the body for someone elses, even with a different personality, and youd instantly forget about the personality you believed 'defined you' before.

Unlike the body theres no reason why the quality of 'self experience' shouldnt in essense be limitless either. Its a non-material resource without any real constraints.
The eastern philosophers understood this inside and out, but modern western thinkers seem to be only just starting to grasp the concept.
it takes along time to get your head around this but when you 'get it' you'll see what i mean (hopefully)
Of course this could all be bollocks though, and feel free to tell me if you think it is.

Think of it this way: the universe is a finite set of resources, you could easily die and 'reappear' somewhere within the unvierse's parameters again.
Reincarnation actually makes alot of sense, there's no real reason why you should be 'self-experiencing' as you and not say your mother. Self-experience or 'being' is a very distinct and seperate quality of existance. You can say youre experiencing life as you - but thats about all you can say, the body and various biological forces that drive you dont really define you atall. The only reason you think of your body as 'you' is because youre self-experiencing through it.
Change the body for someone elses, even with a different personality, and youd instantly forget about the personality you believed 'defined you' before.

Unlike the body theres no reason why the quality of 'self experience' shouldnt in essense be limitless either. Its a non-material resource without any real constraints.
The eastern philosophers understood this inside and out, but modern western thinkers seem to be only just starting to grasp the concept.
it takes along time to get your head around this but when you 'get it' you'll see what i mean (hopefully)
Of course this could all be bollocks though, and feel free to tell me if you think it is.

Either reincarnation ir real, or all the Buddhas were wrong; I incline my thought more to the first option.
But we cannot believe that reincarnation exists, just for the sake of it, and let it be settled right there and then. We cannot believe because the moment you believe in something, you are repressing the doubt.

How would anyone know? Personally I think it's a distraction to be worrying about it.

How would anyone know? Personally I think it's a distraction to be worrying about it.

Maybe you would be thinking about it if you notice the fact that you are dying each day. But if it doesn´t troubles you it is ok, nothing will change because of that.
The thing is, the people who have talked about reincarnation from experience, have remembered their previous lifes. I myself find it very intriguing, and want to find out more, knowing that I can only do so searching within my own self.

After death, the funeral homes take advantage of grieving people.
They make you feel guilty for not wanting to put a second mortgage on your
house to bury your loved one. Families start fighting over inheritances, and
lawyers profit. Some people mourn and some cheer at your death.

As for knowing what you will experience......who the fuk knows.
Heaven or Hell or just nothing........absolutely nothing happens.

As for knowing what you will experience......who the fuk knows.
Heaven or Hell or just nothing........absolutely nothing happens.

That is a very short-sighted view don´t ya think? Knowingly that you don´t know what happens, you narrow it down to 3 options; it just can´t be narrowed down to that. It is like narrowing what happens the moment you are born to just 3 options.
Dead people are probably thinking about what happens in life, what happens when you are born? And some dead folk says: "Well, either heaven or hell, or nothing, absolutely nothing happens".
And we are here on the other side, thinking what happens the moment you die.

when you die, you rot. If you get buried or have your ashes spread, you become part of the ecosystem. If you donate your organs/body, you continue to add quality to the human race.
I like to think the Dr. that gets my body at med school will go on and discover the cure for AIDS.
I do not think we have a soul.

when you die, you rot. If you get buried or have your ashes spread, you become part of the ecosystem. If you donate your organs/body, you continue to add quality to the human race.
I like to think the Dr. that gets my body at med school will go on and discover the cure for AIDS.
I do not think we have a soul.

No difference between you and a guy who thinks he is going to heaven and get 78 vigins for himself; oh, and swim in wine rivers.

No difference between you and a guy who thinks he is going to heaven and get 78 vigins for himself; oh, and swim in wine rivers.

nope. Its all just wishful thinking.

Either reincarnation ir real, or all the Buddhas were wrong; I incline my thought more to the first option.
But we cannot believe that reincarnation exists, just for the sake of it, and let it be settled right there and then. We cannot believe because the moment you believe in something, you are repressing the doubt.

Oh yeah im a total nihilist too, its worth considering though. Really the only people who cant bring themselves to consider things like reincarnation are likely to be those with a very heavy investment in a materialist, very antiquated 'dawn of reason' type mindset.
There's a guy called Ian Stevenson whos a very credible voice in the study of past lives. The famous atheist and skeptic Sam Harris has spoken out a number of times in support of him actually. Which has apparently caused him abit of personal bother amongst his peers.
But as hes rightly said if the research is sound then you sort of have to look at what the evidence throws up regardless of your personal feelings about it.
If you cant then youre probably not really an empricist atall.

http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystudies/case_types.cfm#CORT

Oh yeah im a total nihilist too, its worth considering though. Really the only people who cant bring themselves to consider things like reincarnation are likely to be those with a very heavy investment in a materialist, very antiquated 'dawn of reason' type mindset.
There's a guy called Ian Stevenson whos a very credible voice in the study of past lives. The famous atheist and skeptic Sam Harris has spoken out a number of times in support of him actually. Which has apparently caused him abit of personal bother amongst his peers.
But as hes rightly said if the research is sound then you sort of have to look at what the evidence throws up regardless of your personal feelings about it.
If you cant then youre probably not really an empricist atall.

http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystudies/case_types.cfm#CORT

Cool info, I have read some of Ian Stenveson´s work, and its really cool. The thing is, I want to know my own past lives, that is my only doubt about this.
´Cause there are enough cases on children who remember past lives, you can even to an "hypnotic regression" and get it all out.
But there is something wrong with these "hypnotic regressions", you can go crazy. I think that there is a reason why we don´t remember past lives, like we wouldn´t remember a trauma from this life. Same defense mechanism for not going crazy with something we can not deal with yet.
I think that the main reason why we don´t remember past lives is because we feel much identified with our body, and our mind; that we cannot even consider being somebody else.
For example: Imagine a current Christian who has been against violence his whole life, a total pacifist, who literally hates violent people. Could you imagine that guy remembering a life when he was a mass murderer, and a rapist? I don´t think so, this kind of stuf must be seriously repressed, or you couldn´t live with yourself.
But, I am aware that this is just my logic working, and I depend pretty much on my logic, I have trust on it my whole life; I have to let go of this logic in order to experience the real, my own self.

Cool info, I have read some of Ian Stenveson´s work, and its really cool. The thing is, I want to know my own past lives, that is my only doubt about this.
´Cause there are enough cases on children who remember past lives, you can even to an "hypnotic regression" and get it all out.
But there is something wrong with these "hypnotic regressions", you can go crazy. I think that there is a reason why we don´t remember past lives, like we wouldn´t remember a trauma from this life. Same defense mechanism for not going crazy with something we can not deal with yet.
I think that the main reason why we don´t remember past lives is because we feel much identified with our body, and our mind; that we cannot even consider being somebody else.

Yeah i think its probably fair to say that we 'forget' as a sort of defense against ourselves.
Interestingly, i think Dr.Stevenson's generally found most children would start to forget their previous lives around the age of 4 or 5, by the age of 7 they wouldnt remember anything atall.
I dunno ive toyed with the idea of regression for its own sake, although i guess theres always going to be an inherent danger in it.
I believe crunchy cat has had some sort of past-life regression but he didnt find any sort of evidence to satisfy himself within the experience, which is obviously fair enough too.

How would anyone know? Personally I think it's a distraction to be worrying about it.

I have asked a question.
To which Crunchy Cat bursts in with the idea that it would be an idea similar to sleeping, but, yet, without the dreams.

My question to state it again, as this is what the thread evolves around... :shrug: Is simple.

First, as I have not seen much discussion about the whole idea,
and second that the question is stated so that it's clear...

The question evolves around:
After death.
I have a thought about what happens when I die.
It would appear to me as very obvious for whatever reason that when I am dead and gone, that there is actual suffering.
I asked if this idea can be discounted into gods heaven. Ie, if the idea can be discounted entirely...
I got no response.
Likly it is because you guys don't think about it. You don't care to give the idea any thought. Or you don't answer it and give ideas which further the ideas of death-

Which is great!!!

But!
I'm looking for specific answer to this question I am rasing. I feel that at least to me it is sort of central.

Go ahead question away.
Or continue, unabaited.

when you die, you rot. If you get buried or have your ashes spread, you become part of the ecosystem. If you donate your organs/body, you continue to add quality to the human race.
I like to think the Dr. that gets my body at med school will go on and discover the cure for AIDS.
I do not think we have a soul.

Does not matter what you think.
Of course you f'in die.

...
Anyway,
not having a soul huh.
This discounts my entire idea.
That when I die, there is bound to be a greater tourent of suffering than the life before me.
I cannot escape this idea.
Maybe this says something.
If so I hope it doesn't get turned the 'wrong' way....

My question to state it again, as this is what the thread evolves around... :shrug: Is simple.

First, as I have not seen much discussion about the whole idea,
and second that the question is stated so that it's clear...

The question evolves around:
After death.
I have a thought about what happens when I die.
It would appear to me as very obvious for whatever reason that when I am dead and gone, that there is actual suffering.
I asked if this idea can be discounted into gods heaven. Ie, if the idea can be discounted entirely...
I got no response.
Likly it is because you guys don't think about it. You don't care to give the idea any thought. Or you don't answer it and give ideas which further the ideas of death-


I don't think your question is simple and yes personally I don't see it as a productive one, but if I would have to conjecture I would say that life is the end of suffering not the beginning of greater suffering. I'm not a Buddhist but "life is suffering" resounds more truly to me than "death is suffering."

Okay.
So you have repeated what I have.

I'll get to it in a second.

Just for point of reference i think it is 72 virgins if you are a marter...there is a virgin shortage at the moment. Personally, one was more than I could handle! Can you imagine the salon bills or taking the family out on a Saturday night?

What?!

Anyway.
Is there no discounting the idea in its completeness that after you die suffering does not exist. Or that after you die suffering exists.

Discount of either, I don't see it happening. When it does i'll be convinced-
thx

Any more thoughts so I can get a picture?

There are no "thoughts" after death. You're dead.

Do you remember the time before you were conceived? It's prolly like that.

And, when you are dead.
What is it like?
Are you suffering?

Q I believe your post points out exactly the nature of my question!!!!
But i've just forgot it.
Damn. Can someone remember what I was saying.

existabrent...what happens after death depends on what you believe will happen after death. That is why people want you to believe in heaven, hell, nothingness and such...

I asked myself...what do I want to believe in? Do I need this heaven/hell people talk of? Why am I alive in the first place to go back to nothingness?

And have found an answer...
I don't need heaven/hell...nothigness is illogical to me...I need to live on another life after this one and the way I will do that is I will give birth to my son/daughter and my body will die, and I will forget everything...but I will be reborn with my soul in my child and so a new life will form and I will part of it.

When one considers death, many thoughts come to his/her mind.
It is very interesting a puzzle and logical thought is sort of extreme

And, when you are dead.
What is it like?
Are you suffering?

I just told you, it's like before you were conceived. Only you know how you felt then, right?

I don't know if that answers it or not.

I don't know if that answers it or not.

you answer it, don't ask us questions. Look inside your mind and than past it into a different reality. This reality, this life is not were you will find an answer.

I don't know if that answers it or not.

Yes, it does. Excruciatingly.

When you die your "spirit" or what you conceive as "you" lives on. You also realize you are much more than what you perceive yourself to be, and much "truth" is revealed to you. Your understanding of this is dependent much on how well you have prepared yourself. It is not an end, but a passing as such. As for heaven and Hell, that is mainly your choice for the way you behave, God does not put you there or punish you, that just becomes your place, so to speak.

Jesus is just trying to help. A person doesn't have to do what he says, just like one can jump out of an airplane without a chute if one likes-even if the pilot warns "hey dude, you might want to put this on!". Just my take on death and it doesn't necessarily give me a warm fuzzy. Sorry if this is far to simple an explanation, it is just my understanding now. peace.

A person must of course arrive at their own answers. I completely believe that service, sacrifice, and communion with others will lead one closer to that end. Ah, to live the belief...

Give of yourself unselfishly and surrender your pride/ego/selfwill even in a little way and see for yourself if you come any closer to an answer. You don't have to do anything major or even conspiciously benevolant, just keep your eyes open and look for understanding.

When you die your "spirit" or what you conceive as "you" lives on. You also realize you are much more than what you perceive yourself to be, and much "truth" is revealed to you. Your understanding of this is dependent much on how well you have prepared yourself. It is not an end, but a passing as such. As for heaven and Hell, that is mainly your choice for the way you behave, God does not put you there or punish you, that just becomes your place, so to speak.

Jesus is just trying to help. A person doesn't have to do what he says, just like one can jump out of an airplane without a chute if one likes-even if the pilot warns "hey dude, you might want to put this on!". Just my take on death and it doesn't necessarily give me a warm fuzzy. Sorry if this is far to simple an explanation, it is just my understanding now. peace.

A person must of course arrive at their own answers. I completely believe that service, sacrifice, and communion with others will lead one closer to that end. Ah, to live the belief...

Give of yourself unselfishly and surrender your pride/ego/selfwill even in a little way and see for yourself if you come any closer to an answer. You don't have to do anything major or even conspiciously benevolant, just keep your eyes open and look for understanding.

but what if I dont want heaven or hell...and perceive rebirth as what will come after death?

I think, either Heaven/Hell (the classic scenario), or perhaps...nothingness? Perhaps a place within your mind?

You also have to keep this question in mind: Does the mind and soul die alongwith the brain?

Have a few good ideas.
Have thoughts about the whole experience.
But they are not entirely valid.
Because I am not certain

Any more thoughts so I can get a picture?

What happens after death is you enter into a different universe/reality...you see we each exist in our personal reality/universe, there is no reality you can experience independant of yourself (though all realities exist), there is no such thing as death in reality....

What determines your afterlife is the thought-energy superimposed onto you at death, for instance if the thought-energy is destructive, angry, etc...you will certaintly enter into a hellish world....what determines this thought-energy superimposed is many factors but mainly your past deeds, own free-will, own thoughts...

Usually you enter into the universe of nothingness or deep sleep, then after you awake and take rebirth...

If however you die in the state of nirvana, then you will not take birth, you will not go to the dimension of nothingness, infinity, the heavenly universe, the hellish universe, the Earthly universe, etc...rather you go back to the place of the source, the place from which all universes come from, the unborn, unchanging, unmade, eternal...

I think people are trying to genuinely answer your question existabrent, the problem is there's no real answer we can absolutely and objectively verify as being correct.
Your best stab is sifting through the experience of people whove actually died and come back to tell the tale.
Although even that is a mixed bag - some people have post-death experiences, some people experience nothing atall, or perhaps dont remember anything atall.

As the song goes.........lol


SPIRIT IN THE SKY

When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky
That's where I'm gonna go when I die
When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best

Prepare yourself you know it's a must
Gotta have a friend in Jesus
So you know that when you die
He's gonna recommend you
To the spirit in the sky
Gonna recommend you
To the spirit in the sky
That's where you're gonna go when you die
When you die and they lay you to rest
You're gonna go to the place that's the best

Never been a sinner I never sinned
I got a friend in Jesus
So you know that when I die
He's gonna set me up with
The spirit in the sky
Oh set me up with the spirit in the sky
That's where I'm gonna go when I die
When I die and they lay me to rest
I'm gonna go to the place that's the best
Go to the place that's the best

I once read an explanation from a Zen Master, it was pretty cool and it makes a lot of sense. Althought I don´t personally believe it, I just consider it as a possibility.

Human being has basically 7 "centers":

The first three "centers" are concerned with food, money, power, domination, sex. Food is the lowest, sex is the highest, in the lowest three chakras.
- Food is the lowest center, a food-obsessed person is in the lowest category of animals. He simply wants to survive. If you ask him for what purpose he survives, he has no answer to give to you.
- The second "center", a little higher than the food, is the power-ambition; people that are driven by the second center are the politicians, the ego-obsessed people. Dominative people to hide their inferiority complex.
- Then third "center" is sex, it is better than food and than politics, because it has a little higher quality: it shares. Sex is the highest value for an animal.

Somehow most people get stuck in these 3.

- The fourth "center" is the "heart": love is a bridge to the higher centers of the being. Love is the bridge between the animal and the divine.
- The fifth center is communication, mainly communication of the "inner-experience" of the person. How good a person is able to communicate honestly how he is feeling determines how much he is driven by this center.
- The sixth "center" is the stage of the true yogi. All external and internal changes cease to pose problems. All duality ceases. There is no observed and no observer.
- The seventh "center" is Samadhi, Satori, the direct connection to the divine.

If a man is able to centralize all the centers in harmony, he becomes a single inseparable individual.
You may notice that sometimes a man is sex-driven, and five minutes later he is power-driven, 10 minutes after that he becomes food-driven; sometimes in the life a man becomes love-driven. So we are not just 1 individual, this 7 centers literally dominate us, they are in charge of our life.
If a man dies without being able to integrate this centers, he dies unsconscious and he is born unconscious; each center becomes an independent energy, and it reincarnates in another life form independent of each other. The "self" of the person is reincarnated randomly and unconsciously.

If a man is able to integrate his whole being, and become 1 center (bodhichitta); this man will be conscient after death, he will have the option to choose his next reincarnation, and the circumstances on which he is born; it will be his earned right. He will be born as a conscious individual.

'What happens after death?'

You die and then... nothing.

Well it's nothing if you let it be nothing, if you only have the convictions of belief in a religion then you are doomed to have nothing. After all the way it use to be and is, is that for food to be on the table a man has to work. For their to be anything after death, then you have to work towards promoting it, building it or acquiring it.

Laziness equals oblivion, so remember that if you are one of those that prays in church with some heavenly belief system (too much time sitting on a pue and not actually doing something).

The usual scientific reasoning applies otherwise, If buried you rot, various organisms feast on you (i.e. Bacteria's, Larva etc) although this nowadays isn't as true as it once was as before you are buried so many preservatives and antibacterial products are used to keep your body fresh for your funeral that you'll probably still be pretty solid in 100 years time. If you are cremated you pretty much remove this problem, although it's not just pure ashes usually there is teeth and bone left over from incineration.

You could leave your body to medical science and have your gall bladder kicked round some student's mortuary while the professor/doctors away for lunch (okay, thats a fictional dramatisation of reality, most students would pick something larger like a kidney).

Of course over time your body would attempt to decay, which means you'd either end up in preservative jars, plasticised or cremated.

I guess you can suggest that you should dwell on what happens after you die, but really concern with where your life is going right now.

'What happens after death?'

You die and then... nothing.

lol, riiight, human beings are just a "universal accident"; I just can´t get my mind around that thought, there is no such thing as such a complex energy field created by accident.
I mean, were does all the "life energy" goes after we die? You can create beautiful negative/positive-sided theories, but I rather hear the truth from the "wise ones" over the centuries and millenia.

'What happens after death?'
In a macaber way it's the only theological quistion your absolutly sure will be answerd to you.
I hope their is at least room for two and a ability to choose

lol, riiight, human beings are just a "universal accident"; I just can´t get my mind around that thought, there is no such thing as such a complex energy field created by accident.
I mean, were does all the "life energy" goes after we die? You can create beautiful negative/positive-sided theories, but I rather hear the truth from the "wise ones" over the centuries and millenia.

"Life Energy"?

If you hadn't noticed Energy at it's Atomic form is just a bunch of waveforms encapsulated in an atomic state. You can argue that the 'fields' themselves are paradoxical in form and allow for coexistence of duality states.

It can also be suggested within science the Laws of Thermodynamics suggest that energy can never be destroyed but only change form. Now this might give way to you in use to suggest that obviously our deaths some 'mystical energy transforms into another energy type, equalling rebirth' but you tend to neglect some other factors.

DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid) which is pretty much what we are made up of as you should know is in fact an acid, acid's are known to generate reactions (Which is why they can be referred to as 'reactives') Reactions are often 'Energetic' as atomic/molecular states aren't just excited by also broken down and reformed, that's pretty much what you life (well... biometric) energy is.

This means that on your demise, when your bodies reactives can no longer perform their task that energy is no longer produced (it's not destroyed, it doesn't change in state it just ceases to exist from no longer being produced)

I guess I'm saying in short "Your life energy stops on death, that's why you are dead".

DNA (Deoxyribonucleic acid) which is pretty much what we are made up of as you should know is in fact an acid, acid's are known to generate reactions (Which is why they can be referred to as 'reactives') Reactions are often 'Energetic' as atomic/molecular states aren't just excited by also broken down and reformed, that's pretty much what you life (well... biometric) energy is.

This means that on your demise, when your bodies reactives can no longer perform their task that energy is no longer produced (it's not destroyed, it doesn't change in state it just ceases to exist from no longer being produced)

I guess I'm saying in short "Your life energy stops on death, that's why you are dead".

Scientists also consider the mayority of the DNA as useless, lol. As if evolution would generate a useless part in basic animal structure.
Also, "the energy stops"?? you are going against basic physics there. It is better to say: "the energy leaves the body".

Scientists also consider the mayority of the DNA as useless, lol. As if evolution would generate a useless part in basic animal structure.
Also, "the energy stops"?? you are going against basic physics there. It is better to say: "the energy leaves the body".

The "Useless" DNA has use, it's just not identifiable. Some of it is leftover from inherited code as like an ancestry footprint, the rest of it only assumptions can be drawn however in years to come more information will unravel.

As for energy stopping, if a Generator turns to create energy, when it's at rest it doesn't create energy. That's my point about death, you stop creating energy (although you could do the whole breakdown of chemical structures as you decay but we've been through that already).

hopefully many lower life forms have a grand feast on my behalf :)

Have a few good ideas.
Have thoughts about the whole experience.
But they are not entirely valid.
Because I am not certain

Any more thoughts so I can get a picture?

Nothing...Nothing happens after death.
The few common frame situations that have been related concur...darkness numbness.

nothing happens, it's all over, and if you want to to know what really happens after death do this:
step one: go to the kitchen .
step tow:hold a knife.
step three: push it throw your eye, and for sure you will see death.
don't push it too hard otherwise you won't be able to come back to tell us what happened there.

Good thoughts,
Will get back with my perception of the issue