Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?

Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?

That may be someone's idea of fun. :)

He didn't meditate all of the time, they just depict him that way. Many times he is lying down,standing up or leaning against a lovely lady! :D

Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?

Well once you achieve enlightenment you'll be free from fear, anger, sorrow, misery, etc...and be able to do whatever you desire freely, you'd have unalloyed enjoyment, that's a lot more fun...

Yes, in theory, I guess that's true. I don't buy the theory, however.

It's good for nothing! ....and it's not fun!

I find it fun, but thats just me. If you don´t like sitting like the Buddha, meditation can mean dancing consciently, eating consciently, playing consciently, making love consciently...

Krishna was enlightened, and He used to sing and dance.

Yes, in theory, I guess that's true. I don't buy the theory, however.
Well it's really simple, when you meditate and control your senses, etc...you get rid of your insecurities, defiling impulses, etc...and if your insecurities and defliing impulses are gone, how can anger, fear, sorrow, disatisfaction, misery, boredom, frustration, or any degree of misery exist anymore?

Everyone is (unconsciously) seeking pleasure, but material pleasure is temporary, even the heavenly worlds are temporary, the reason the enjoyment is temporary is because the pleasure actually comes from within you, it has no other cause...

Meditation is an exercise, not a way of life.

the buddhas did not meditate all of the time. but when they did meditate it was not a waste of time, because it had its rewards.

i meditate alot and it has helped me dispose of emotions that are not needed. like fear, greed and jelousy.


peace.

But I like fear, greed and jealousy! They are what make me get up and go to work in the morning. Fear of no money. Greed for money. And jealousy of others who have money.

Suit yourself. Why should we care?

Is anything wrong in meditation.

But I like fear, greed and jealousy! They are what make me get up and go to work in the morning. Fear of no money. Greed for money. And jealousy of others who have money.

No you don't, you like the happiness you gain from them, not the fear, greed, or jealousy itself...

No. I do like those negative emotions. They motivate me - not the happiness. I don't get up and go to work because it will later make me feel happy. I go to work because I am scared not to.

No. I do like those negative emotions. They motivate me - not the happiness. I don't get up and go to work because it will later make me feel happy. I go to work because I am scared not to.

Right, so you like the motivation, not the negative emotions...you derive some form of happiness, pleasure, or enjoyment from the emotions, but it's not the emotions itself you like...but the pleasure, enjoyment, happiness, motivation, high-energy, sense of fulfillment, etc...

Well, obviously you can't literally like a negative emotion - otherwise it wouldn't be negative. Nevertheless, I like what they do for me.

You NEED plenty of exercise!
You never see Buddha meditating while doing press-ups.
I bet he ended up with diabetes. :(

Kinda, the universe is a medium of 'doing' essentially, so meditation is only of use if you want to bypass the universe altother and seek out 'non-doing' as a form of existance.

Well, obviously you can't literally like a negative emotion - otherwise it wouldn't be negative. Nevertheless, I like what they do for me.

Couldn't you have another motivational system?

Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?
I think only philosopher types who gave up on materialistic lifestyle,
would be happy doing that

Well once you achieve enlightenment you'll be free from fear, anger, sorrow, misery, etc...and be able to do whatever you desire freely, you'd have unalloyed enjoyment, that's a lot more fun...
I thought that enlightement was simply being happy in whatever youre doing

I doubt its possible for any human being to be free from fear,anger sorrow misery ...simply b/c we have feelings,empathy,these wont ever leave you unless youre a psychopath

imo only way to be free to live the way you want is to CONTROL your emotions/feelings,so these dont control you

I thought that enlightement was simply being happy in whatever youre doing

I doubt its possible for any human being to be free from fear,anger sorrow misery ...simply b/c we have feelings,empathy,these wont ever leave you unless youre a psychopath

imo only way to be free to live the way you want is to CONTROL your emotions/feelings,so these dont control you

No, it's possible, all you have to do is remove (not suppress or ignore, or wave off) all the insecurities and defiling impulses within you...you should try it..the feeling is great...

Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?

If you do it long enough then it's like being totally stoned on drugs: without the drugs.
When you get up to do things then everything gets back to a crude "normal" until you start "meditating" again to get totally stoned, like no drugs on Earth can make you.

If you do it long enough then it's like being totally stoned on drugs: without the drugs.
When you get up to do things then everything gets back to a crude "normal" until you start "meditating" again to get totally stoned, like no drugs on Earth can make you.

Yeah, I understand what you mean about it being like drugs, except it's a lot better than drugs, all those types of pleasure are under material nature, even the voidness of deep relaxation is under material nature....

I thought that enlightement was simply being happy in whatever youre doing
So is it possible to be an enlightened but active murderer? Or do morals come into it somewhere?

Meditation only prepairs your mind for action by letting it relax and absorb positive vibrations from inner thoughts that you keep hidden away.

Meditation only prepairs your mind for action by letting it relax and absorb positive vibrations from inner thoughts that you keep hidden away.

Meditation means a lot of different things to different people:
but if it has a purpose or motive then it will never ever have anything to do with "Enlightenment" ... SELF-realization --
UNLESS it, meditation, is used to study how thoughts cannot work, or be predicted or controlled.

A PhD in this "study-of-thoughts" -- the 5000 year old Hindu "Supreme Science" -- is an absolute guarantee of SELF-realization.

Really, Reality

So is it possible to be an enlightened but active murderer? Or do morals come into it somewhere?

The fact that a person becomes enlightened has nothing to do with being the same as every enlightened person that ever was. It simply means that you do God´s will at perfection, because the force that drives you is no longer the ego, but God-Conscience.

Meditation means a lot of different things to different people:
but if it has a purpose or motive then it will never ever have anything to do with "Enlightenment" ... SELF-realization --
UNLESS it, meditation, is used to study how thoughts cannot work, or be predicted or controlled.

A PhD in this "study-of-thoughts" -- the 5000 year old Hindu "Supreme Science" -- is an absolute guarantee of SELF-realization.

Really, Reality

According to the teachings of Atisha: meditation means to be the watcher of your thoughts. By watching the thoughts, you cristalize the soul, and thoughts dissapear... Once the thoughs dissapear, you watch the watcher, and the miracle... Samadhi...

What good is a life of meditation without action?

What type of action you have in mind?:D