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View Full Version : What do you all think of the uk.
Maveric 01-09-03, 05:42 AM I was just wondering what your thoughts where on why the uk sticks by america, and why blair does everything bush asks him.
i cant really work it out. Apart from america saving thier asses in the world war, thats not really a reason anymore, the britts saved the french but yet the french hate the britts.
and why blair does everything bush asks him.
Really?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/09/nirq09.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/01/09/ixport.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=74494
Maveric 01-09-03, 06:07 AM im not saying its a bad thing but he asked him to delay it, if bush said no, then they wouldnt delay it and britian would still stick by the us.
I was just wondering what your thoughts where on why the uk sticks by america
I know of no other country as deserving of the UK's support.
Microzoft 01-09-03, 06:44 AM Originally posted by Maveric
I was just wondering what your thoughts where on why the uk sticks by america, and why blair does everything bush asks him.
i cant really work it out. Apart from america saving thier asses in the world war, thats not really a reason anymore, the britts saved the french but yet the french hate the britts. What do I think? It is a country that I know well, lived once there, and the people are just people with own peculiarities as the people from other countries. How ever, I find my self not to comfortable around a heavy Anglo-Saxon culture.
Politically, not lots different as with the US, except that they are at another continent. They are very much isolated by the rest of Europe and really have not alternative but to kiss US ass regardless on what US president leads. If it wasn’t because their Royals pop-up every now and them, they would be hardly noticeable.
The UK has a genuine relationship with the US and incidents like 9/11, as well as the upcomming war, show that they're willing to stick with the US even though they may at times be at odds with our policies.
The UK isn't some puppet of the US; the US has given in many times to Britain, and had it been the UK that were attacked(or even one of the nations that actively uses personal attacks against the US to win elections), we would have been the first ones to send aid and logistical support, as well as military support should they have called for it.
Microzoft 01-09-03, 07:06 AM Originally posted by Kyle_S
....and had it been the UK that were attacked(or even one of the nations that actively uses personal attacks against the US to win electionsIf elections are won by submitting an anti-us support for radical military action, that will be a nation’s choice speaking out loud. I find it great!!
....…do you have a problem when a nation democratically voice out their sentiment?:D
Originally posted by Microzoft
If elections are won by submitting an anti-us support for radical military action, that will be a nation’s choice speaking out loud. I find it great!!
....…do you have a problem when a nation democratically voice out their sentiment?:D It's fine if the people don't want it, but the more actively anti-US a country is the less influence it has. Personally speaking, rather than trying to spite the US, a more effective means of getting your way would be to support your allies, despite your grievances, and use your influence to alter things which are for the better.
Germany voted in a way that was anti-US in a spur of the moment effort to spite us. Now they have zero influence in world events, and worse, they've hurt their economy.
France did the same and now that war is inevitable they're jumping on the band wagon, because any other route would also result in the loss of their influence in world events. That's the only reason they voted for the first security council resolution.
http://www.usatoday.com/aponline/2003010708/2003010708314900.htm
In Paris, French President Jacques Chirac told his armed forces Tuesday to be prepared for deployment, the clearest suggestion to date that France would participate in a military move against Iraq.
Maveric 01-09-03, 07:33 AM the french hate the us and britain........its proof of what kyle_s is saying, they are only doing it for the benefits after the war.
Maveric 01-09-03, 07:37 AM Originally posted by Microzoft
What do I think? It is a country that I know well, lived once there,
me too that is why i am asking, as when i was over there they didnt even seem to know why they stuck so close to the us.!?.
Microzoft 01-09-03, 07:46 AM Originally posted by Kyle_S
It's fine if the people don't want it,
....Germany voted in a way that was anti-US in a spur of the moment effort to spite us. Now they have zero influence in world events, and worse, they've hurt their economy.
France did the same and now that war is inevitable [/url] Try taking a cool shower!
Of course is fine, it is democracy. Germany voted not in an anti-US, but instead voted with their conciseness.
And one total different thing is supporting US and a total different thing is supporting the International will.
No, France like other nations voted in favor of the UN resolution and despite US cheap pressure voted against unilateral actions and as the majority did, voted against a specific act of war should Iraq not comply with UN resolutions.
German’s economy has nothing to do with US influence over current situation. In the same manner that Silicon Valley is dry and not because of the unification of Germany. And our government has consumed our surplus and we should not blame Al-Quaeda for it.
US has the habit of talking pluralist when it is convenient.
One thing is certain, no international consensus on a war against Iraq, and US will be running out of time, ….either lose face or peal potatoes!!
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Microzoft 01-09-03, 08:26 AM Originally posted by Kyle_S
France did the same and now that war is inevitable they're jumping on the band wagon, .....http://www.usatoday.com/aponline/2003010708/2003010708314900.htm That’s was USA Today published. Have you checked what the French newspapers are publishing???
If you don’t than you are supporting a simple bias news release. But I think you know that already, you have no other option but to believe the only thing you can. That’s fair
:D
"I was just wondering what your thoughts where on why the uk sticks by america."
Reason being is in "death" countries come closer together when they are both fighting for justice and sanity..american people are like our brothers and sisters.
dominic
Microzoft 01-09-03, 08:59 AM Originally posted by IXL777
"I was just wondering what your thoughts where on why the uk sticks by america."
Reason being is in "death" countries come closer together when they are both fighting for justice and sanity..american people are like our brothers and sisters.
dominic Excuse me for correcting, I don’t usually do that. But I think you made a typo mistake.
…were you not trying to type “wealth” instead??
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Maveric 01-09-03, 09:04 AM /\
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Then you wonder why people go off americans when you make an innane comment like that.
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Maveric 01-09-03, 09:20 AM you do have to admit, rather funny, however far from the truth it is.....im welsh may i add.....living in canada.
Sorry all Americans , it was an up and under by my welsh cousin
Microzoft 01-09-03, 09:43 AM Originally posted by IXL777
Then you wonder why people go off americans when you make an innane comment like that.
d Do you think that we can foolish the audience by going “dramatic” about
common knowledge. We can bullshit our selves, that’s OK …..but I have never try it in public!
Should I use terms as US and England are “Blood brothers”, “Destiny-Bond” ??
…pshhh the pomms also have black on their island. You think we can use that for resemblance???
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Maveric 01-09-03, 09:50 AM britain...britain...britain.....not england, its not england, there are 3 other countries as well as england that make up the uk.
Should I use terms as US and England are “Blood brothers”, “Destiny-Bond” ?? I do use these terms because the battle ahead is against darkness ignorance and light and it depends onwhich side of the fence you fall..
Maveric 01-09-03, 09:57 AM stop saying england. my brothers in the british army, hes welsh, not english. :P
but i think any country joining forces with the us is a 'blood brother' ,for the duration of the war anyway
Vortexx 01-09-03, 10:19 AM It is quite simple: Brittain is all about Brittain, what united europe? It is We and the continent, in order to preserve becoming swallowed by Bruxelles central government they need some friends against europe: the USA.
Also consider the uk shares the language with the us and after all the us is former colony of the uk
:p for old times sake ;)
It does have a lot to do with the anglosphere. The US, Australia, Canada, and the UK stick together a lot more than any other loose association throughout the rest of the world.
Britain = England, Scotland, Wales.
U.K. = Britain and N. Ireland. (correct me if I'm wrong)
its all about bush, blair and a tube of vaseline
It does have a lot to do with the anglosphere. The US, Australia, Canada, and the UK stick together a lot more than any other loose association throughout the rest of the world.
I agree with you kyle , and you taffy are also one of us.
Britain taffy is great because of its diverse people , the gift of rugger and song like the welsh, but I see aussies, americans , canadians as blood brothers, if any of these countries wanted help I would volunteer..
therefore the answer to your question about the u.k., like the other 3 countries, it is a country of democracy and light and we will not be dominated, and that is why we stick together.
p.s I used to live in wales,
dominic:m: :m: :m:
The US, Australia, Canada, and the UK
So everywhere Britain had conquered/had a colony
Originally posted by Thor
So everywhere Britain had conquered/had a colony Only the english speaking parts, AKA "anglosphere"
Captain_Crunch 01-09-03, 01:31 PM Britain = England, Scotland, Wales
England calls the shots, Scotland hasnt a say in the whole thing. Scotland has its own parliment, it should be an independant country. The Scottish are a different people altogether and to class them as the same as English is not accurate (I dont intend any offence). It is common knowledge that the Scottish do not like the English, it is only the popular political parties that back Tony Blair but this does not reflect the popular opinion of the Scottish people.
The UK is by far more important than the rest of Europe.
Captain_Crunch 01-09-03, 02:19 PM The UK is by far more important than the rest of Europe.
What do you mean?
cpt crunch,
The Scottish people are different in that they have the de-jure Stewart lineage ...but if push comes to shove us southerners would come to the aid of our brothers up north...being brittish is now multi-cultural......therefore under duress Scottish, Brittish, Canadian American and Australian and Kiwi's will be as one.:m: :m: :m:
Captain_Crunch 01-09-03, 02:30 PM cpt crunch,
The Scottish people are different in that they have the de-jure Stewart lineage ...but if push comes to shove us southerners would come to the aid of our brothers up north...being brittish is now multi- cultural......therefore under duress Scottish, Brittish, Canadian American and Australian and Kiwi's will be as one.
You are calling me a racist (indirectly). Its laughable.
What point are you trying to make?
Many scottish people want "autonomy", and thats fine , but if a country attacked Scotland we, down south would come to your aid. You are not racist ..but when people think of the U.K. we are all lumped together..so I would say that the U.K has diverse cultures and that gives it a unique standpoint. The Stewart link de-jure means ruling by right...It really depends how Americans and others view us and the U.K.
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i like to warn the welsh and scots to watch their backs. the anglos cannot... i repeat.... cannot be trusted!
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