What Jesus has in common with Horus?

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  1. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Check this out, I was just reading this on the net...seems very interesting. I never knew they had so much in common.

    Horus of Egypt

    The Egyptian sun god Horus, who predated the Christ character by thousands of years, shares the following in common with Jesus:

    Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

    His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph").

    He was of royal descent.

    At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.

    Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by "Anup the Baptizer" ("John the Baptist"), who was decapitated.

    He had 12 disciples, two of whom were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan" (the two "Johns").

    He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus ("El-Osiris"), from the dead.

    Horus walked on water.

    His personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." He was thus called "Holy Child."

    He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayings of Iusa."

    Horus was transfigured on the Mount.

    He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.

    He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light," "Messiah," "God’s Anointed Son," the "Son of Man," the "Good Shepherd," the "Lamb of God," the "Word made flesh," the "Word of Truth," etc.

    He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion.

    He came to fulfill the Law.

    Horus was called "the KRST," or "Anointed One."

    Like Jesus, "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years."


    Seems to me that Jesus was created from another Saviour type God that pre-dated him thousands of years!!!!!
     
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  3. secretasianman Registered Senior Member

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    Jesus was not of royal descent. Horus wasn't born in a manger...
    Anyways, I always believed that Jesus was a fabrication composed of various Greek gods/heroes and figures from other minor religions/cults:

    At least this wasn't pulled off some random website - read "The Christ Conspiracy" by Acharya S, in stores now.

    Oh hey - they actually do mention Horus in there. Not to mention Jesus is derived from the God of Wine/Alcohol... thoughts anyone, or is this just going to be another atheist circle jerk?
     
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  5. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    They're details

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    Anyway, very interesting stuff there Lightbeing

    ->EDIT<-

    Why would someone of Royal Assent be born in a manger???
     
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  7. secretasianman Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, sorry if I was being a Royal Ass
    but nobody can be expected to believe random readings pulled off the internet.

    So I'd like sources, if it isn't too much trouble. And Lightbeing, what exactly does this information signify - to you, that is.
     
  8. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Lightbeing - where did you find it?

    I know of some similarities betwen Jesus and Horus, but I'm not sure all of those listed are true. Still, they're all myths, different interpretations, versions etc.

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  10. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Here is the source:

    http://www.truthbeknown.com/christ.htm

    Seems pretty accurate to me...except for the Royal descent.

    It says cave/manger. Some believe that Jesus was actually born in a cave.
     
  11. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    It signifies to me that Christianity and Jesus were created from earlier civilizations. Many passages in the Bible were taken from other stories and epics. This is but another thing Christians have convientently overlooked.

    Also, here is a little background on me. I'm open to the idea of "God" but take a logical approach with everything in Life. Therefore, I am in no way Religious. You may call me Agnostic. However, my wife is a Born-again Christian....do I need to continue.........

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  12. BobG Registered Senior Member

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    There appears to be no evidencde that Horus was supposed to have done any of those things.
     
  13. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Thought this might be of interest ...

    The name "Horus" is a general catchall for multiple deities, the
    most famous of whom is Harseisis (Heru-sa-Aset) or Horus-son-of-
    Isis (sometimes called Horus the Younger) who was conceived
    after the death of his father, Osiris, and who later avenged him.
    In all the Horus deities the traits of kingship, sky and solar
    symbology, and victory reoccur. As the prototype of the earthly
    king, there were as many Horus gods as there were rulers of
    Egypt, if not more.

    The oldest of the Horus gods is appropriately named Horus the
    Elder (Heru-ur), and was especially venerated in pre-Dynastic
    Upper Egypt along with Hathor. In this very ancient form, Horus is
    also a creator god, the falcon who flew up at the beginning of
    time. The pre-Pharaohnic rulers of Upper Egypt were
    considered "shemsu-Heru" or "followers of Horus", and the
    original Horus is himself considered in some myths to be the
    brother of Seth and Osiris, second-born of the five children of Geb
    and Nut (Osiris, Horus, Seth, Isis, Nephthys). Horus the Elder's
    city was Letopolis, and his eyes were thought to be the sun and
    moon. When these two heavenly bodies are invisible (as on the
    night of the new moon) he goes blind and takes the name
    Mekhenty-er-irty, "He who has no eyes". When he recovers them,
    he becomes Khenty-irty, "He who has eyes". A warrior-god armed
    with a sword, Horus could be especially dangerous to those
    around him in his vision-deprived state, and during one battle in
    particular he managed to not only knock off the heads of his
    enemies but of the other deities fighting alongside him, thus
    plunging the world into immediate confusion that was only
    relieved when his eyes returned.

    Other notable Horus gods are the previously mentioned
    Harseisis, as well as Horus of Behdet (sometimes called simply
    Behdety) who was represented as a winged sun disk, Anhur (a
    form of Horus the Elder and Shu), Horakhety (Ra-Heru-akhety)
    who was a syncretism of Ra and Horus, and Harpokrates (Heru-
    pa-khered) or Horus the Child. In the form of Harpokrates, Horus
    is the danger-beset son of Isis with one finger to his lips,
    signifying his childish nature (also evident in his princely sidelock
    and naked status). Harpokrates represented not only the royal
    heir, but also the newborn sun.

    Horus deities are frequently depicted as hawks or hawk-headed
    men, though some are represented as fully human. The pharaoh
    was considered to be the Living Horus, the temporal stand-in for
    Horus in the earthly domain. As the opponent of Seth (who,
    though initially an Upper Egyptian deity himself, later came to
    represent not only Lower Egypt but the desert surrounding
    Egypt), Horus is alternately a brother vying for the throne and
    unification of Egypt (Horus the Elder), or a royal heir come to
    reclaim his inheritance (Horus the Younger).

    Horus can be seen at the top of the serekh of early kings, though
    in very rare cases his place was usurped by Set (Peribsen,
    Dynasty 2) or even shared with him (Khasekhemwy, Dynasty 2).
    Horus is also depicted on the famous Narmer palette along with
    Bat, an earlier form of Hathor.

    A passage from the Coffin Texts (passage 148) sums up Horus in
    his own words:

    "I am Horus, the great Falcon upon the ramparts of the house of
    him of the hidden name. My flight has reached the horizon. I have
    passed by the gods of Nut. I have gone further than the gods of
    old. Even the most ancient bird could not equal my very first
    flight. I have removed my place beyond the powers of Set, the
    foe of my father Osiris. No other god could do what I have done. I
    have brought the ways of eternity to the twilight of the morning.
    I am unique in my flight. My wrath will be turned against the
    enemy of my father Osiris and I will put him beneath my feet in
    my name of 'Red Cloak'."

    "Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt" by R.T. Rundle Clark, p. 216

    Source:
    "Horus." Encyclopedia Mythica
     

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