What would happen if a million poeple, if not more, just decided to peacefully walk right into area 51.

How far is the US gov. willing to go, to keep area 51 a secret? Are they willing to kill a million of poeple in attempt to stop them from walking right in?

From what I have hear, they plant sensors outside of the area 51 perimeter on privet land already.

Oh they will know we are comming, but how far will they go to stop us?

they will probably gas you all. but even if they kill you, it would in defense. you would fall easily into the category of an invading army, it does not matter if you have weapons. just you viewing classified things would probably be enough to warrant calling you, at least a large group of spies, if not an army.

That will be a dark day indeed. So sayeth me.

Best of luck finding a million people. If the goverment would just turn it into a theme park then maybe a million a year.

The alien technology there is what will keep the million away. It is already doing it. Muhahahaha

Well you may have a point c20H25N3o, but as far as we know, only testing of air crafts goes on there.

I wouldn't be surprized if we could find a million of poeple to risk thier lives to know the truth. Corruption and Secrecy are tearing the USA apart. Not just from themselfs, but from the world.

Personal Note to the USA government: The Cold War Is OVER! Times have changed! The more you choose to hide yourselfs from the world, the more that poeple will want to find you. You are playing hide and seek with the world, and no matter what, the seeker always wins. So quit while your ahead and end all this nonsense god dammit. If you have Technology that can advance mankind, STOP HIDDING IT. It does the faith of our world no good.

Actually Blindman thats what I would have suggested they do with Area51 because it's more lucrative than the current Hush Hush approach, however I'm sure they couldn't do this while some of it needs de-contaminating.

As I've mentioned before if you had a stockpile of weapons that if for instance one was dropped it would either generate a rather large crater or biological impact, you would probably buy the surrounding land up that equals the area of a "Hot Zone" (The zone that has the highest concentration of what ever weaponry fallout that could happen).

This means that placing such a location for a stockpile (in the desert with a large acreage) away from a large populous like a main city.

I'm sure if the military thought that a march on the premises was a threat to the stockpile they would call in Martial Law (Where you have to return to your homes or face the consequences). If Martial Law was called in I think there was some way that the Military can actually then start bypassing Senate.

Also note that the test aircraft you mentioned like the Blackbird and other "bombing" aircraft would have not just been tested for their flying capability but the capacity to carry a "payload". Which is "why" there would be a stockpile.

i heared any aircraft that goes within 10miles(or something like that) radis will be shot down, so a million people turning up welli think theyll shoot a few to scare everyone.

My best guess, their response would be very simular to the incident of the alleged hurricane that came aground a few years back in Florida, the orders to all armed forces were "shoot anything that moves".

How else do you think your illustrious government and armed forces respond?

they might release sleeping gas and take them back to their homes?

That would cost them billions to return a million poeple to thier homes.

They could just roadblock the approach. Namely blockade roads leading to the nearby towns etc, any large numbers of people either being held for inspection on the grounds of terrorism or being told to return home.

DON'T QUESTION AUTHORITY!
Your government knows what's best for you.

Imagine if a million peasants stormed a high tech military weapon's testing facility!
OOO, what does this button do? What's in this barrel? ooopsy, biochemical agent..
and we have a scenario of Stephen King's "THE STAND"

besides.. I don't think that you have a legal right to know the design or the existance of secret weapons, because then they won't be secret anymore, and that's one of their strenghts.

DON'T QUESTION AUTHORITY!
Your government knows what's best for you.


That is not true, if that was true, we would be living in a dicatorship world.

would you let a mob of peasants into a military research facility then?
would you answer for the damage they could do?

and now you're saying that you government doesn't know what's best for you?
I think it's clearly seen that the best is to keep the mob away by any means necessary

i agree, its like a mob of people marching in to your house and trashing all of it. how would you feel would youtry to defend it?

If you could organize a million people or even 100K they would not be able to stop you. But, like Blindman said good luck finding those million people.

They tried it with nuclear silo's before, however the protestors didn't get in, they were just held at the gates and arrested. Since Area 51 has an airstrip they can pretty much fly in over protests anyway, so it's all pointless.

I guess that is true, back-up could easily be called in to keep out a mass amount of intruders. And very quickly too, because it is quite clear, that whatever they are hiding, that to keep secret at all costs. I would not be surprised if there was a self destruct button in Area 51.

I am wondering however, Area 51 hired a privet company to secure the area around Area 51. Are these people legally allowed to kill if needed? (I forget the name of this privet police force, could someone remind me?)

if you had a million people they would see you miles away, and most porbaly someone will inform someone in a high place.

if you had a million people they would see you miles away, and most porbaly someone will inform someone in a high place.

I have already mentioned that they have thousands of ground sensors hiding on PRIVET land, that does not belong to the military. They would easily know you are coming.

not private, but public land
there is a difference

Unless you get loads of parachuter planes and take your chances landing them right in area 51 but it will be the same as and invasion, shoot to kill

btw- what have you against Area51?
Why should they tell you something?
Mind your business and let the government do its job - researching new weapons.

Unless you get loads of parachuter planes and take your chances landing them right in area 51 but it will be the same as and invasion, shoot to kill

such planes would be shot down even before they get close

sorry it was a joke

btw- what have you against Area51?
Why should they tell you something?
Mind your business and let the government do its job - researching new weapons.

If my own government was secretly planning a world wide invasion using clones, do you not think I would want to know about it.

An odd example, YES. But we have no clue as to what they are doing in AREA 51 or what the purpose is? They can keep their secret, but the people deserve the right to know what is the nature of what they are hiding and/or doing there. If they are developing space-aged air craft, then tell us that, rather than saying the base does not even exist.

If you tell someone, that you have the coolest and most amazing thing in the world, inside a box, they will go crazy wondering what could be inside the box. And sometimes even go to extreme measures to find out.

Don’t believe me? Try it out sometime.

As much as they might appear to not care sometimes, you just know it is eating them up inside.

I don't care. I trust the government. You should too. Government is your friend. It really is. Trust me. :)

If governments are always right, then why are there so many wars and confrontations in the world?

I am not saying that you personally are saying that governments are always right, Avatar. But it is the only way I can express my point at this moment.

The ability to question what your government is doing either right or wrong is truly what free speech and democracy really is.

If there was one government there would be no such problems as wars. Romans came first with the idea, it was called "Pax Romana" or The roman peace, which was a plan to end all wars. One Rome - One world.
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returning to our A51 topic-> I really don't see any reasons why any government should inform the populace of secret weapon and technology development. The mob by definition is lame, oversensitive and stupid. A mob is anarchy.
What do you want? Chemical weapon designs, monitoring technology? What would you do with it? It would be far more dangerous if posessed my multiple unprofessional entities.
and what if one day the US government says -> we have no alien technology there.
and what happens? all these ET zealots scream that it is not true and that they are being lied at. I call it Wishful-Thinking-Extreme. If it doesn't exist, you create in your fantasies and nobody can prove you wrong. Same with alien tech and A51.
And even if they had alien technology, then what? Would you demand it to be released into public? What if the technology enables to make a black hole in everyone's back yard? Project Goodbye Earth?

Something in me has a strong disagreement with what you said there, Avatar. I can't say exactly what that is however. :(

I am not saying you are right, but I just cannot come up with a decent rebuttal. Darn, my feeble human mind.

Which really sucks, on my behalf. :D

I don't think governments should release ALL information of top secret material, but where can we really draw the line between democracy, and government conspiracies?

I personally feel that the idea of one government is a VERY LONG ways away, but thank you for pointing that out. I will do some research on this "pax romana." :)

erm.. if you compare nowaday USA with ancient Athens then you can see that the USA is nowhere near a democracy.

No, it is not. :)

Yet they claim they are. :D

Does that not bug the hell out of you. ;)

No, it doesn't, because I know. And any man with enough education knows. So it's nothing top secret :D
What they tell is just PR - to look good infornt of the civilized world. And since I don't reside in the USA, I don't care in how deep shit the americans are.

I don't care in how deep shit the Americans are.
I do care! Being the worlds most powerful government (or super power), I strongly care about their actions.

When the bell strikes, then I'll start to worry or hide. Until then I don't want any problems or politics disturbing my peace, since I can do nothing about it anyways.
And Russia is a far greater concern at the part of the world I'm located at.
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not to lose our topic what do you want USA to do about A51?
everyone knows it exists already
everyone knows they're testing experimental aircraft there
so the US comes up with an announcement -> We are testing experimental aircraft at A51! 50 year old news. Will barely make it in the news.
and about the aliens -> it's a religion already. religious people don't like facts.,
but lets' assume for a moment and do a theoretical trick -> The US says -> we have extraterrestrial technology in our possesion and we are experimenting with it.

So, what happens? What's the gain? You can't expect that they will start giving away flying saucers to wallmart.

So, what happens? What's the gain? You can't expect that they will start giving away flying saucers to wallmart.

No, but at least for once, the US government will be honest with the world...

That is a "start", if any.

The more you attempt to cover something up, the more you feel that a MAJOR world wide conspiracy is going on.

The cold war is over, why does USA feel they need to feel they need to hide MAJOR scientific finds, from the world? It truly does not do us good. By us, I mean the worlds population.

If you haven't noticed it, a new war has started.
p.s. and russia and china are already strenghtening their muscles for the potential next one.
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3AM already. I'm off. See you tomorrow.
remember to turn the clock minus 1 hour
if you do that there

Public Opinion

Do you think sheep know there sheep.. ?

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/publicopinionpolls.htm

VERY nice link fluid1959!!! I will enjoy spending some time viewing this webpage.
Way to go! :D

3% of 100 people does not translate into 30,000 out of every 1,000,000.

Simply some people will take polls, and some will not. Some people won't offer a suggestion of if UFO's exist if some Longhaired arrogant parapsychology student attempts to question them etc. So Polls are never accurate.

What would they do if a million people showed up at any high security military base. It would be no different I expect although it is an interesting question.

If I were a commander of such a base I'd sleep gas them. If no gas, then shoot on sight.
For all I know they could be disquised enemy soldiers or spies.
And if such a large operation was being planned then 100% you'd get a member from every secret agency in the world in that crowd.

The insertion of agents into "Anarchy groups" is a well documented fact. Either the agents are there to find out what the groups are up to, or they are there to cook up the trouble the groups cause.

It's just a pity that certain democratic processes in some countries takes so long, as the faster it is the better because it should eventually mean the removal of those tactically inserted agents for Surbversion tactics. (e.g. Subs/Sleepers)

3% of 100 people does not translate into 30,000 out of every 1,000,000.

Simply some people will take polls, and some will not. Some people won't off a suggestion of if UFO's exist if some Longhaired arrogant parapsychology student attempts to question them etc. So Polls are never accurate.

Yep. I always give false information when answering polls, and I'm sure many others do too.

I have already mentioned that they have thousands of ground sensors hiding on PRIVET land, that does not belong to the military. They would easily know you are coming.
Well, it seems that everyone seems to be talking about a million people marching towards and in to area 51. Im pretty sure anyone would know you were coming from sound of it in such a case, a million people is no small ammount, and just the walking would probably set off a few alarms here and there by vibrations. However, if you had a million people , why not have some fun while you manage to collect them all, and have everyone jump once to see what happens? :D

or better yet -> make them march in one step over a large bridge :D