Ladies and Gentlmen
Would you mind commenting on this song and its content.what have u prepared for ...............

Let click on this link to give u opinions

http://www.islamictube.net/watch/495864179/Farshy-AlTurab

i hate religion. and i have prepared for it and our sin to be wiped off the map for good.

I got about a quarter way through it and then closed it as there appeared to be nothing of value.

Not as good as Tunak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo

I have to wonder why they are so sad about death if they believe in an afterlife that's paradise? That's strange.

Ladies and Gentlmen
Would you mind commenting on this song and its content.what have u prepared for ...............

Let click on this link to give u opinions

http://www.islamictube.net/watch/495864179/Farshy-AlTurab


What total bullshit!

Better see this [no religion] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0FvG9GO8Qs

finally the truth that shines through the eyes of the Allah

Not as good as Tunak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo

I have to wonder why they are so sad about death if they believe in an afterlife that's paradise? That's strange.

I love that one!!

I agree, if you're gonna be religious, at least be interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQLeB7efog

I agree, if you're gonna be religious, at least be interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQLeB7efog

no one will take it seriously.

Ladies and Gentlmen
Would you mind commenting on this song and its content.what have u prepared for ...............

Let click on this link to give u opinions

http://www.islamictube.net/watch/495864179/Farshy-AlTurab

I didn't watch the video but it sounds nice to me. I think it might sound good without the main singer too. Just the background music is nice.

no one will take it seriously.

Hmm okay, we'll throw in a pretty woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfxzY00q2To

Or maybe something drastic?:p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVE5st4c34

Wow, I could see her bare shoulders, she must be a prostitute.

Wow, I could see her bare shoulders, she must be a prostitute.

It was inside the house. :mad:

(unless you mean the first one, that was a fantasy)

Ladies and Gentlmen
Would you mind commenting on this song and its content.what have u prepared for ...............

Let click on this link to give u opinions

http://www.islamictube.net/watch/495864179/Farshy-AlTurab

music to slit your wrists by...:D

It was inside the house. :mad:

(unless you mean the first one, that was a fantasy)

Kidding. She's no Ofra Haza, but not bad.

Ladies and Gentlmen
Would you mind commenting on this song and its content.what have u prepared for ...............

Let click on this link to give u opinions

http://www.islamictube.net/watch/495864179/Farshy-AlTurab

Ok listened and watched it all and i note the sadness and the fear mentioned by the singer.

Must be terrible not having assurance of eternity with God, to be in doubt even if one says they have hope. If one is sad and expresses fear then the hope they have must be pretty low.

For me the death of a true Believer is a cause of celebration both for them and for the ones who love them. :) There is no fear in death for one who has assurance neither are they saddened by the loss of worldly pleasures of money and such.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

I agree, if you're gonna be religious, at least be interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQQLeB7efog

Not sub titles, So the meaning of the song is unaccessable to me.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Not sub titles, So the meaning of the song is unaccessable to me.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Its a Sufi song. Sufis are mystical Muslims.

Sufism is "a science through which one can know how to travel into the presence of the Divine, purify one’s inner self from filth, and beautify it with a variety of praiseworthy traits."-Ahmad ibn Ajiba,

O sayonee
Oh my friend
Chain ek pal nahin
no peace for a moment
Aur koi hal nahin
and there is no solution
O sayonee
Oh my friend

Kon mode muhar
who will take the reins
Koi Sanwal nahin
There is no leader among us
Chain ek pal nahin
no peace for a moment
Aur koi hal nahin
and there is no solution
O sayonee
Oh my friend

Kya bashar ki bisat
what is the mortal's worth
Aaj hai kal nahin
here today, tomorrow not
Chain ek pal nahin
no peace for a moment
Aur koi hal nahin
and there is no solution
O sayonee
Oh my friend

Chod meri khata
Let's not talk about my mistake
Too to pagal nahin
you atleast are not insane
Heyyyyyyy
heyyyyyyy

Chain aik pal nahin
no peace for a moment
Aur koi hal nahin
and there is no solution
O sayonee
Oh my friend
O sayonee
Oh my friend
O sayonee
Oh my friend

Pretty depressing lyrics, but i guess with the background of what is going on in India at the moment with the hindu radicals and the islamic jihadists i guess it reveals the hopelessness of the common man who just wants to live in peace in the area.

As a Christian i have peace of mind always. Even in this world at war and strife. I do not need to pursue a "science" that enables me to go and visit God. God has come to me in the form of the Holy Spirit and dwells with me.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Pretty depressing lyrics, but i guess with the background of what is going on in India at the moment with the hindu radicals and the islamic jihadists i guess it reveals the hopelessness of the common man who just wants to live in peace in the area.

As a Christian i have peace of mind always. Even in this world at war and strife. I do not need to pursue a "science" that enables me to go and visit God. God has come to me in the form of the Holy Spirit and dwells with me.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Uh, thats a Pakistani group. :)

Sufi songs are generally about love and devotion. This song is about separation from the Divine one/

Uh, thats a Pakistani group.

Ok, But look what’s going on in Pakistan and it is the same old story. Bombs blowing up mosques and inter islamic strife and strife between devout muslims and half baked compromising muslims. Strife between secular and devout pakistanies too. Actually pakistan is in a worse state then india.

And the point made by the other poster is valid, that woman was dressed in an immodest unislamic fashion in the video, saying that the shot was taken of her inside a house makes no difference she allowed herself to be shown in a decadent and sexually provocative manner to be looked upon my thousands of men who will watch the video.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Ok, But look what’s going on in Pakistan and it is the same old story. Bombs blowing up mosques and inter islamic strife and strife between devout muslims and half baked compromising muslims. Strife between secular and devout pakistanies too. Actually pakistan is in a worse state then india.

And the point made by the other poster is valid, that woman was dressed in an immodest unislamic fashion in the video, saying that the shot was taken of her inside a house makes no difference she allowed herself to be shown in a decadent and sexually provocative manner to be looked upon my thousands of men who will watch the video.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

That was an Indian video. ;):m:

For me the death of a true Believer is a cause of celebration both for them and for the ones who love them. :) There is no fear in death for one who has assurance neither are they saddened by the loss of worldly pleasures of money and such.

HOW ABOUT THESE ONES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkkwgrjOBFQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozrjBGXVn2E&feature=related

The comment on the website is interesting:

"thats a beeautiful reminder about death"

Death is sad. This song was about death so it was rightly a sad song.

Those that fear death tend to be religious, like Adstar. They create a dream where there is no death but instead eternal bliss, and delude themselves that death is not a problem, and then claim they have no fear.

But death is a problem. It is the end of your existence. It is a problem we all face and should be a target for us to solve. Wishing and hoping it will be some magical gateway to a utopian paradise solves nothing and distracts our efforts from finding real solutions.

Fear of death is another matter. I can emotionally and intellectually accept that at some time I might cease to exist. Fear doesn't come into this. If fear is an issue then it could be the method of dying, e.g. a slow drowning, or being burnt alive, are things that should be rightly feared.

Of all the differences between religions, whether theistic or otherwise, it is the issue of death that is the central theme, although often masked to avoid dwelling on sadness. Every religion offers an imaginative fantasy promise of a life beyond death. Death is one thing all sane people will consider at some time in their lives, and the one thing the vast majority do not want to occur. But there is no solution yet - and hence religions arise to offer empty promises to the gullible.

Do u think that in Egypt phrao though his being king rich and the world had under his feet still benefit from the GoLD WHICH burried with.As u see or read that some treasures have been found or stolen to be sold elsewhere

tresbien,

Yet for all of that the stark evidence we see is that everyone dies and even though you believe there is a hereafter just what does that mean and how is it possible?

The Quran does not offer evidence for a hereafter, but only a fictional fantasy. Its texts reflect myths, ideas and concepts from ages past where there was no knowledge of neurology.

The Quran is not a source of knowledge but a collection of imaginative incredible baseless speculations. If you look objectively at life you will observe that people do die and are never seen again and that there is not a single spark of evidence to indicate that they might have gone to a hereafter or that an Allah is even possible. Yet you would still choose to believe these things. Why is that? It seems likely that that is what you have been told and that those who told you were also told, and so on. Will there ever come a time when you as an individual will stand up and seek objective confirmation of what you have been led to believe, or will you remain as a sheep just following and regurgitation what others have told you?

I think the world could do with a new holiday. How about International Death Day ?

We could dress in drab clothes. fast and visit cemeteries and funeral parlours. Over glasses of water we could talk of deaths in the family, death rattles, deaths we have witnessed and so on.

Surely we can put a day aside to celebrate to celebrate death !

International?! You don't want muslims to start doing that! We've got enough problems with their bombers as it is.

delusion

Bring You Evidences And Relax

Bring You Evidences And Relax

My evidence is your absence of evidence of course.

133. A friend cannot be considered a friend unless he is tested on three occasions: in time of need, behind your back and after your death.

LOL I'm sorry ?

Death is sad. This song was about death so it was rightly a sad song.

Those that fear death tend to be religious, like Adstar. They create a dream where there is no death but instead eternal bliss, and delude themselves that death is not a problem, and then claim they have no fear.

But death is a problem. It is the end of your existence. It is a problem we all face and should be a target for us to solve. Wishing and hoping it will be some magical gateway to a utopian paradise solves nothing and distracts our efforts from finding real solutions.

Fear of death is another matter. I can emotionally and intellectually accept that at some time I might cease to exist. Fear doesn't come into this. If fear is an issue then it could be the method of dying, e.g. a slow drowning, or being burnt alive, are things that should be rightly feared.

Of all the differences between religions, whether theistic or otherwise, it is the issue of death that is the central theme, although often masked to avoid dwelling on sadness. Every religion offers an imaginative fantasy promise of a life beyond death. Death is one thing all sane people will consider at some time in their lives, and the one thing the vast majority do not want to occur. But there is no solution yet - and hence religions arise to offer empty promises to the gullible.


IMAME ALI SAYS
I
I wonder at the arrogance of a haughty and vain person. Yesterday he was only a drop of semen and tomorrow he will turn into a corpse. I wonder at the man who observes the Universe created by Allah and doubts His Being and Existence. I wonder at the man who sees people dying around him and yet he has forgotten his end. I wonder at the man who understands the marvel of genesis of creation and refuses to accept that he will be brought back to life again. I wonder at the man who takes great pains to decorate and to make comfortable this mortal habitat and totally
129. While returning from Siffin, Imam Ali passed along the cemetery of Kufa. Addressing the graves he said: "O you, who are lying in horrible and deserted houses. O you, who are shut up in the dark graves, who are alone in their abodes, strangers to the places assigned to them; you have gone ahead and preceded us, while we are also following your steps and shall shortly join you. Do you know what has happened aver you? Your houses and property was taken up by others, your widows have remarried, this is what we can tell you of this world. Can you give us some news about things around you?" Saying this, Imam Ali turned to his companions and said, "If they are permitted to speak they will inform you that the best provision for the next world is piety and virtue".

Certainly, this world is a house of truth for those who look into it carefully, an abode of peace and rest for those who understand its ways and moods and it is the best working ground for those who want to procure rewards for life in the Hereafter. It is a place of acquiring knowledge and wisdom for those who want to acquire them, a place of worship for the friends of Allah and for Angels. It is the place where prophets received revelations of Allah. It is the place for virtuous people and saints to do good deeds and to be assigned with rewards for the same. Only in this world they could trade with Allah's Favors and Blessings and only while living here they could barter their good deeds with His Blessings and Rewards. Where else could all this be done? Who are you to abuse the world when it has openly declared its mortality and mortality of everything connected with it, when it has given everyone of its inha- bitants to understand that all of them are to face death, when through its ways it has given them all an idea of calamities they have to face here, and through the sight of its temporary and fading pleasures it has given them glimpses of eternal pleasures of Paradise and suggested them to wish and work for the same. If you study it properly you will find that simply to warn and frighten you of the consequences of evil deeds and to persuade you towards good actions, every night it raises new hopes of peace and prosperity in you and every morning it places new anxieties and new worries before you. Those who passed such lives are ashamed of and repent the time so passed abuse this world. But there are people who will praise this world on the Day of Judgment that it reminded them of the Hereafter and they took advantage of these reminders. It informed them of the effects of good deeds and they made correct use of the information it advised them and they were benefited by its advice".

who- ever has no share of Allah in his wealth and in his life then there is no place for him in His Realm.

Is that some sort of threat ?

IMAME ALI SAYS
I
I wonder at the arrogance of a haughty and vain person. Yesterday he was only a drop of semen and tomorrow he will turn into a corpse. I wonder at the man who observes the Universe created by Allah and doubts His Being and Existence. I wonder at the man who sees people dying around him and yet he has forgotten his end. I wonder at the man who understands the marvel of genesis of creation and refuses to accept that he will be brought back to life again. I wonder at the man who takes great pains to decorate and to make comfortable this mortal habitat and totally
129. While returning from Siffin, Imam Ali passed along the cemetery of Kufa. Addressing the graves he said: "O you, who are lying in horrible and deserted houses. O you, who are shut up in the dark graves, who are alone in their abodes, strangers to the places assigned to them; you have gone ahead and preceded us, while we are also following your steps and shall shortly join you. Do you know what has happened aver you? Your houses and property was taken up by others, your widows have remarried, this is what we can tell you of this world. Can you give us some news about things around you?" Saying this, Imam Ali turned to his companions and said, "If they are permitted to speak they will inform you that the best provision for the next world is piety and virtue".

Certainly, this world is a house of truth for those who look into it carefully, an abode of peace and rest for those who understand its ways and moods and it is the best working ground for those who want to procure rewards for life in the Hereafter. It is a place of acquiring knowledge and wisdom for those who want to acquire them, a place of worship for the friends of Allah and for Angels. It is the place where prophets received revelations of Allah. It is the place for virtuous people and saints to do good deeds and to be assigned with rewards for the same. Only in this world they could trade with Allah's Favors and Blessings and only while living here they could barter their good deeds with His Blessings and Rewards. Where else could all this be done? Who are you to abuse the world when it has openly declared its mortality and mortality of everything connected with it, when it has given everyone of its inha- bitants to understand that all of them are to face death, when through its ways it has given them all an idea of calamities they have to face here, and through the sight of its temporary and fading pleasures it has given them glimpses of eternal pleasures of Paradise and suggested them to wish and work for the same. If you study it properly you will find that simply to warn and frighten you of the consequences of evil deeds and to persuade you towards good actions, every night it raises new hopes of peace and prosperity in you and every morning it places new anxieties and new worries before you. Those who passed such lives are ashamed of and repent the time so passed abuse this world. But there are people who will praise this world on the Day of Judgment that it reminded them of the Hereafter and they took advantage of these reminders. It informed them of the effects of good deeds and they made correct use of the information it advised them and they were benefited by its advice".

You are not treating me, a reader, with respect. I suspect you do not realize this.

I could put this another way. The kind of proselytizing you are doing will bring you converts, if any, that you deserve. People without self-respect. How can you know your fellow humans so little?

Careful, Allah might get a TNT strap-on and go kablooie on your buttox.

He may even send some Americans to liberate you :D

I think the world could do with a new holiday. How about International Death Day ?

We could dress in drab clothes. fast and visit cemeteries and funeral parlours. Over glasses of water we could talk of deaths in the family, death rattles, deaths we have witnessed and so on.

Surely we can put a day aside to celebrate to celebrate death !

Done already throughout several European countries and elsewhere: November 1st, All Saints day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints_Day

According to Wikipedia, it is an observance day/ holiday in Austria, Belgium, Chile, Croatia, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Seychelles, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Guatemala.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1

He may even send some Americans to liberate you :D

That was actually quite funny. Helpful and a sense of humor? Who are you and what have you done with Sam? :p

Done already throughout several European countries and elsewhere: November 1st, All Saints day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints_Day

According to Wikipedia, it is an observance day/ holiday in Austria, Belgium, Chile, Croatia, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, Peru, the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Seychelles, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Guatemala.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1

Damn it. One day I'll have an original idea. Now I remember, when I was a kid in Ireland it was customary to place a lighted candle in the window. The main thing is that the Guinness flowed freely which made the fear of death recede.

tresbien,

IMAME ALI SAYS
I
I wonder at the arrogance of a haughty and vain person. Yesterday he was only a drop of semen and tomorrow he will turn into a corpse. I wonder at the man who observes the Universe created by Allah and doubts His Being and Existence. I wonder at the man who sees people dying around him and yet he has forgotten his end. I wonder at the man who understands the marvel of genesis of creation and refuses to accept that he will be brought back to life again. I wonder at the man who takes great pains to decorate and to make comfortable this mortal habitat and totally
129. While returning from Siffin, Imam Ali passed along the cemetery of Kufa. Addressing the graves he said: "O you, who are lying in horrible and deserted houses. O you, who are shut up in the dark graves, who are alone in their abodes, strangers to the places assigned to them; you have gone ahead and preceded us, while we are also following your steps and shall shortly join you. Do you know what has happened aver you? Your houses and property was taken up by others, your widows have remarried, this is what we can tell you of this world. Can you give us some news about things around you?" Saying this, Imam Ali turned to his companions and said, "If they are permitted to speak they will inform you that the best provision for the next world is piety and virtue".

Certainly, this world is a house of truth for those who look into it carefully, an abode of peace and rest for those who understand its ways and moods and it is the best working ground for those who want to procure rewards for life in the Hereafter. It is a place of acquiring knowledge and wisdom for those who want to acquire them, a place of worship for the friends of Allah and for Angels. It is the place where prophets received revelations of Allah. It is the place for virtuous people and saints to do good deeds and to be assigned with rewards for the same. Only in this world they could trade with Allah's Favors and Blessings and only while living here they could barter their good deeds with His Blessings and Rewards. Where else could all this be done? Who are you to abuse the world when it has openly declared its mortality and mortality of everything connected with it, when it has given everyone of its inha- bitants to understand that all of them are to face death, when through its ways it has given them all an idea of calamities they have to face here, and through the sight of its temporary and fading pleasures it has given them glimpses of eternal pleasures of Paradise and suggested them to wish and work for the same. If you study it properly you will find that simply to warn and frighten you of the consequences of evil deeds and to persuade you towards good actions, every night it raises new hopes of peace and prosperity in you and every morning it places new anxieties and new worries before you. Those who passed such lives are ashamed of and repent the time so passed abuse this world. But there are people who will praise this world on the Day of Judgment that it reminded them of the Hereafter and they took advantage of these reminders. It informed them of the effects of good deeds and they made correct use of the information it advised them and they were benefited by its advice".You have illustrated my point perfectly.

You appear unable to offer a personal opinion but can only regurgitate the conditioning you have acquired.

Do you have a mind of your own? Can you comprehend my earlier post and respond rationally to the issues without having to quote those who pull your strings?

each word u have read is a part of me and i believe in all what i privide u with

Careful, Allah might get a TNT strap-on and go kablooie on your buttox.

WRONGERS HAVE NO SUPPORTERS

Is that like a wrangler?

Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company or strap u or just to frighten u .CALL THEN POLICE TO FREE U. tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs.if u lie they will visit again and u will see worse.

Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company.oR u want see a good vision .Ok choose and tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs

:D Awesome !! lol

i speak out of belief and conviction.IF ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THEY WILL NOT COME TO BOTH OF U. LET HAVE THIS CHALLENGE.OK.
U WILL EXPERIENCE MORE THAN U CAN IMAGINE

Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company or strap u or just to frighten u .CALL THEN POLICE TO FREE U. tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs.if u lie they will visit again and u will see worse.

Sweet, I look forward to playing with some Jinns tonight. I'll provide a summary of my experience from 5:00 p.m. today to whenever I wake up the next day. BTW, if I catch one I am going to claim the James Randi 1 million dollar prize.

And if lying grants me a repeat visit then let me claim that opportunity now by stating that I ate a million jellybeans in 30 seconds.

i speak out of belief and conviction.IF ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THEY WILL NOT COME TO BOTH OF U. LET HAVE THIS CHALLENGE.OK.
U WILL EXPERIENCE MORE THAN U CAN IMAGINE

To me now too ? Really, you promise ?? :D

So if I don't see any Jins tonight you will give up your faith in Allah ?

Just remember Enmos, I have dibs on the Randi prize!

Just remember Enmos, I have dibs on the Randi prize!

If tresbien falls from his faith that's enough for me ;)

You're such an altruist! *hands enmos a hotdog and a pack of smokes*

You're such an altruist! *hands enmos a hotdog and a pack of smokes*

Thanks but you can keep the dog :p

You're such an altruist! yes if u come to me and ask me to give u what i have i will without hesitation to seek God pleasure

You're such an altruist! yes if u come to me and ask me to give u what i have i will without hesitation to seek God pleasure

Is that a threat again ? :cool:

If tresbien falls from his faith that's enough for me
it is enouigh for me that GOD looks at us and witnesses the challenge.

To me now too ? Really, you promise ??

So if I don't see any Jins tonight you will give up your faith in Allah ?

U WILL HEAR THEIR VOICES OR U WILL FEEL THEM .OK

YES .BUT PROMISE ME NOT TO LIE

If tresbien falls from his faith that's enough for me
it is enouigh for me that GOD looks at us and witnesses the challenge.

Hey you brought it on by saying "IF ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THEY WILL NOT COME TO BOTH OF U. LET HAVE THIS CHALLENGE.OK."

So my question to you is: What happens to your faith when the Jins don't show up ?

To me now too ? Really, you promise ??

So if I don't see any Jins tonight you will give up your faith in Allah ?

U WILL HEAR THEIR VOICES OR U WILL FEEL THEM .OK

YES .BUT PROMISE ME NOT TO LIE

I promise not to lie tresbien. If I don't want to say something I just don't say it, I don't lie about it.

The Jinns confess to Allah's Perfect Power


Concerning Allah's statement,


[وَأَنَّا ظَنَنَّآ أَن لَّن نُّعْجِزَ اللَّهَ فِى الاٌّرْضِ وَلَن نُّعْجِزَهُ هَرَباً ]


(And we think that we cannot escape Allah in the earth, nor can we escape Him by flight.) meaning, `we know that the power of Allah is decisive over us and that we cannot escape Him in the earth. Even if we try to flee, we know that He has complete control over us and that none of us can escape Him.'


OK BY ALLAH LEAVE AND CONTROL OVER THEM THEY WILL COME TO U ENMOS AND CRUNCHY CAT.

Tresbien,

I'm curious.. what have I done according to you that is so terrible ?

yeah tresbien why are you picking on those who have yet not read the true word of Allah, they can still read and understand Quaran, so why are you picking on them?!

Ok By Allah Leave And Control Over Them They Will Come To U Enmos And Crunchy Cat

Ok By Allah Leave And Control Over Them They Will Come To U Enmos And Crunchy Cat

We know.. shees..

What is the reason you call jins on me ?

Ok Crunchy Cat And Enmos.i Accept U Challenge

I DO NOT CALL THEM.I ASK WHO CREATES THEM TO SHOW CRUNCHY CAT HIS SIGN.HE ILLSPOKE ABOUT GOD. Enmos u acept the challenge to .No one can free u from them except saying IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.THEY WILL RELEASE U BY ALLAH LEAVE

Ok Crunchy Cat And Enmos.i Accept U Challenge

Cool, gotta' stop by the vet and register my new Jinn.

O ALLAH. O ALLLAH ooooops did I misspell the word Allah? does that work still than?

I DO NOT CALL THEM.I ASK WHO CREATES THEM TO SHOW CRUNCHY CAT HIS SIGN.HE ILLSPOKE ABOUT GOD. Enmos u acept the challenge to .No one can free u from them except saying IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.THEY WILL RELEASE U BY ALLAH LEAVE

lol read the thread again, I never 'illspoke' of anyone..
But sure, I'll accept the challenge.
I'm just curious what your reasons are.

O ALLAH. O ALLLAH ooooops did I misspell the word Allah? does that work still than?
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.
WHEN THEY SAY IT? THEY WILL RELEASE THEM

Crunchy Cat Who IlLspoke Of Allah.U MENTION U BELOVED AND U WILL IF THEY RELEASE VU.BUT WHEN U MENTION ALLAH U WILL BE RELEASED

ENMOS BEFORE I WENT BACK TO ALLAH, they came to menace me.NOW AS ALLAH MY SUPPORT .I HAVE NO FEAR AND I AM PROTECED FROM THEM THROUG PRAYERS AND READING QURAN.IF ALLAH WANTS SOMEONE TO REPENT? HE MAKES CAUSES.EITHER HIS BELOVED DIED. OR HAVE ACCIDENT AND SO ON

Crunchy Cat Who Ilspoke Of Allah.

And your reasons to include me ?

IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST VICIOUS MOST DEATH EVENTFUL

OH no did I just use the wrong adjectives, must have mistyped them....oh my...

ENMOS BEFORE I WENT BACK TO ALLAH, they came to menace me.NOW AS ALLAH MY SUPPORT .I HAVE NO FEAR AND I AM PROTECED FROM THEM THROUG PRAYERS AND READING QURAN.IF ALLAH WANTS SOMEONE TO REPENT? HE MAKES CAUSES.EITHER HIS BELOVED DIED. OR HAVE ACCIDENT AND SO ON

Can you please concentrate for a minute and answer my really simply question ?

Do U Not Think I Am Abnormal Or Stupid Or Crasy .i Speak Out Of Belief.

Crunchy Cat Who IlLspoke Of Allah.U MENTION U BELOVED AND U WILL IF THEY RELEASE VU.BUT WHEN U MENTION ALLAH U WILL BE RELEASED...

Can you repeat that in English?

Do U Not Think I Am Abnormal Or Stupid Or Crasy .i Speak Out Of Belief.

Abnormal? nope
Stupid? nope

more like lacking English skills and totally inconsiderate

Do U Not Think I Am Abnormal Or Stupid Or Crasy .i Speak Out Of Belief.

Is that a question ?

Btw. I really think that Jin thing only works on someone that takes it seriously.

“ Originally Posted by tresbien

ENMOS
Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company.oR u want see a good vision .Ok choose and tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs ”

Awesome !! lol

CRUNCHY CAT
WHEN WE FEEL JIN OR COME TO US WE SAY IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.
WHEN U MENTION ONLY ALLAH ? THEY WILL LEAVE IN PEACE. IF U SAY O MOTHER , they will not go away.ALLAH NAME WARD THEM OFF

“ Originally Posted by tresbien

ENMOS
Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company.oR u want see a good vision .Ok choose and tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs ”

Awesome !! lol

And ?

I am drowning in the capital worded "french-crooked english-allah" slang

Are U Afarid.u Reject Allah Existence.so Let Accept The Challenge

CRUNCHY CAT
WHEN WE FEEL JIN OR COME TO US WE SAY IN THE NAME OF ALLAH MOST GRACIOUS MOST MERCIFUL.
WHEN U MENTION ONLY ALLAH ? THEY WILL LEAVE IN PEACE. IF U SAY O MOTHER , they will not go away.ALLAH NAME WARD THEM OFF

Oh I get it, if I want to return my pet Jinn then I just say 'Allah'. That's alot more convenient then driving them to a pet shelter.

Ok Promise Me Not To Lie

The only promise I will give you is that I will document what happens between 5:00 pm PST tonight and whenever I wake up. The rest is in your court.

BTW, how much do Jinns go for an ebay?

Bye And See U Tommorrow Inshallah.BUT I do not think they will let u sleep in the mid of night.

Oh, they like to party late? Ok, I'll get them some zima.

where are u enmos.before i leave i want that u write u accept the challenge

Maybe you should tell them what these jinns look like just so they don't miss them.

Enmos get your camera ready, we'd all love to see these jinns, oh and don't forget your three wishes.. Wait, those are genies. Whatever.

Crunchy Cat
As u have much disrespect towards ALLAH, tonight u will see his might .Have u ever seen muslim jins.They do not appear to us but come to give u company or strap u or just to frighten u .CALL THEN POLICE TO FREE U. tell us tommorrow.I defy u .Allah exists and u will experience his signs.if u lie they will visit again and u will see worse.

I told me wife I saw jinns in the garden; then I admitted I was lying.

Maybe you should tell them what these jinns look like just so they don't miss them.

Enmos get your camera ready, we'd all love to see these jinns, oh and don't forget your three wishes.. Wait, those are genies. Whatever.

The wonders of an English education.:)

The Arabic word “jinn” literally means anything which has the connotation of concealment, invisibility, seclusion, and remoteness. In pre-Islamic Asian-Mid Eastern folklore and in Islamic Culture, a jinni (also “djinni” or “djini”) is a member of the jinn (or “djinn”), generally thought to be a race of supernatural creatures.

The word genie in English has mixed meaning; although most often genie refers to a djinni, it can also[citation needed] refer to the Latin word genius, which has a separate but similar meaning.

where are u enmos.before i leave i want that u write u accept the challenge

I think he has run away from your challenge.

Sam,

Never mind the explanation, do you believe in jinns ?

Sam,

Never mind the explanation, do you believe in jinns ?

Of course, don't you believe in invisible life forms with the power of concealment and the ability to do you harm?

Oh, they like to party late? Ok, I'll get them some zima.

I find a jinn goes better with tonic water

Of course, don't you believe in invisible life forms with the power of concealment and the ability to do you harm?

Can you not explain that to tresbien. He might accept it from you.Seriously though, how prevalent is the belief in jinns among Muslims ? I have a good reason for asking.

Can you not explain that to tresbien. He might accept it from you.Seriously though, how prevalent is the belief in jinns among Muslims ? I have a good reason for asking.

All Muslims believe in jinns. Very little is said about them in the Quran, but according to tradition, they are life forms that have an origin in fire (we don't know what that means) they ar believed to be either supernatural or extraterrestrial, are hard to detect and good at concealment, they can take over your body and do you great harm unless you can find a way to protect yourself from being hijacked.

All Muslims believe in jinns.

The lack of a decent education :bugeye:

P.S I'm well aware of what jinns are claimed to be, my earlier post was an example of this thing we have in England called 'sarcasm'.

I wish gods would talk to me.

I wish gods would talk to me.

Have you tried using underarm deodorant ?

The lack of a decent education :bugeye:

P.S I'm well aware of what jinns are claimed to be, my earlier post was an example of this thing we have in England called 'sarcasm'.

Sure it was. ;)

Of course, don't you believe in invisible life forms with the power of concealment and the ability to do you harm?

Not in the least

All Muslims believe in jinns. Very little is said about them in the Quran, but according to tradition, they are life forms that have an origin in fire (we don't know what that means) they ar believed to be either supernatural or extraterrestrial, are hard to detect and good at concealment, they can take over your body and do you great harm unless you can find a way to protect yourself from being hijacked.

My good reason for asking is because a Muslim father and son are currently serving long sentences in prison for killing a female member of the family while attempting to beat a jinn out of her. Rumour had it that the jinn possessed her because she had refused to go through with a forced ( not arranged ) marriage.

I find that frightening

Have you tried using underarm deodorant ?

Do you think it would help?

My good reason for asking is because a Muslim father and son are currently serving long sentences in prison for killing a female member of the family while attempting to beat a jinn out of her. Rumour had it that the jinn possessed her because she had refused to go through with a forced ( not arranged ) marriage.

I find that frightening

Thats not surprising. Some jinns occupy Presidents of countries and incite them to look for invisible WMDs. Always good for an excuse, these jinns.

Thats not surprising. Some jinns occupy Presidents of countries and incite them to look for invisible WMDs.

WOW!!!! awesome connection:eek:

WOW!!!! awesome connection:eek:

How did you think Dubya talks to God?:p


George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa)


Clearly, there is a lot of interstellar communication going on.

Thats not surprising. Some jinns occupy Presidents of countries and incite them to look for invisible WMDs. Always good for an excuse, these jinns.

In JWB's case you must remember that his are Christian jinns, i.e., jinns who talk to the righteous and offer good advice. In other word a better class of jinn altogether.

Nvm I see the connection..... lol

In JWB's case you must remember that his are Christian jinns, i.e., jinns who talk to the righteous and offer good advice. In other word a better class of jinn altogether.

Not only that, they also BOGO with immunity from prosecution, some of it retroactive.:p

Do you think it would help?

Well , they say cleanliness is next to godliness. God spoke to me when I was in the shower and I joyfully watched my sins being washed away.

I just find it strange how a post that was being critical over a muslim belief somehow founds its way into the realm of the Iraq war. It just seems like a strange shift in topics to me. /shrug

Its just an indication how killing one girl can get you life imprisonment if spirits are talking to you, but killing a 100,000 plus can get you re-elected as President of a country if God is the one giving directions. Everything should be seen in perspective. ;)

Its just an indication how killing one girl can get you life imprisonment if spirits are talking to you, but killing a 100,000 plus can get you re-elected as President of a country if God is the one giving directions. Everything should be seen in perspective. ;)

Yea I got your point after hitting the post button....inserts foot into mouth. :p

Well , they say cleanliness is next to godliness. God spoke to me when I was in the shower and I joyfully watched my sins being washed away.

Are you sure it was your sins, and not just dirt and hookers blood?;)

Yea I got your point after hitting the post button....inserts foot into mouth. :p

No problem, personally, I always believe that anyone who thinks jinns, God etc are inviting you to kill people should be lobotomised to cut off the connection.

No problem, personally, I always believe that anyone who thinks jinns, God etc are inviting you to kill people should be lobotomised to cut off the connection.

Even certain presidents? ;)

Even certain presidents? ;)

Hmm not sure there's enough to spare. I've always thought his God was actually Cheney calling in.

"Hi George, this is Dic- God speaking. Operation Iraq Liberation all set?" click.

Back to Muslims and jinns.

Its surprising how many instances of jinns are found in cases of domestic abuse.

Hmm not sure there's enough to spare. I've always thought his God was actually Cheney calling in.

"Hi George, this is Dic- God speaking. Operation Iraq Liberation all set?" click.

Good point :D

I want those in here who are ignorant to understand what this muslim
tresbien is attempting to do.

jinns are demons

tresbien is trying to get people to agree to accept demons into their lives and is attempting to call demons upon them. This is a satanic practice indeed and no one should have any part in this little game. muhammed was affected by the these jinns/demons and they influenced the righting of the quran.

So be wary because you do not want the first confirmation of the existence of a spiritual force to be from the legions under the control of satan.

May God keep you from this evil.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days
PS: Oh I am deadly serious here believe me.

I hope none of the evil demons come get me in my sleep. Its strange that legions of satans army seem to only hide undeer the beds of children or the heads of the clinically insane or fanatical.....it seems like a strange strategy to me...

Thats not surprising. Some jinns occupy Presidents of countries and incite them to look for invisible WMDs. Always good for an excuse, these jinns.

Yes Sam, you said it as a joke of course. But you may be surprised how close you are to the truth. jinns/demons affect masons too.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Back to Muslims and jinns.

Its surprising how many instances of jinns are found in cases of domestic abuse.

Backward tribalism, stone age mentality, and cultural precedence over religious knowledge.

Both Muslims and Christians believe in demons, and both believe they are bad, am I right?

I hope none of the evil demons come get me in my sleep. Its strange that legions of satans army seem to only hide undeer the beds of children or the heads of the clinically insane or fanatical.....it seems like a strange strategy to me...

I think there is a lot to be said for sitting in the dark on starless nights in a pitch black desert. Sometimes you can't see beyond the length of your arm and suddenly you run into something you cannot identify because its so dark.

Both Muslims and Christians believe in demons, and both believe they are bad, am I right?

No, djinns can be good. No idea what they are supposed to represent, certainly not demons.

PS: Oh I am deadly serious here believe me.

That's the scary part.

A youth spent watching too many cartoons I think.

Really? Do you believe in these too? I completely missed that criticism of Islam. There's no end to the harm that could come from thinking invisible spirits are the cause of social problems, to say nothing of physical ailments.

Really? Do you believe in these too? I completely missed that criticism of Islam. There's no end to the harm that could come from thinking invisible spirits are the cause of social problems, to say nothing of physical ailments.

Not really, it depends on whether you read mostly western interpretations or follow classical Arabic. ;)

Genie is the usual English translation of the Arabic term jinni, but it is not directly an Anglicized form of the Arabic word, as is commonly thought. The English word comes from French génie, which meant a spirit of any kind, which in turn came from Latin genius, which meant a sort of tutelary or guardian spirit thought to be assigned to each person at birth. The Latin word predates the Arabic word jinni in this context, and may have been introduced in the Arabian civilization through the Nabataeans. The root however, and its concept of being "hidden" or "concealed" still comes from the Semitic root "JNN" and from which the Arabic Jannah (garden or paradise) is derived.[1][2]

Arabic lexicons, such as William Lane's lexicon provide[3] the rendered meaning of Jinn not only for spirits, but also for anything concealed through time, status and even physical darkness. A classical Arabic use of the term Jinn is as follows:

وَلا جِنَّ بِالْبَغْضَآءِ وَالنَّظَرِ الشَّزْرِ

And there is no concealment with vehement hatred as well as the averting look.



The sad part of course, is that even Muslims are more influenced by what westerners think they should believe rather than studying their own religion.

Are you sure it was your sins, and not just dirt and hookers blood?;)

" Sow ye not doubts among the righteous or god, in his infinite mercy, will cast ye into the lake of fire "

Paul to the Eskimos

I hope none of the evil demons come get me in my sleep. Its strange that legions of satans army seem to only hide undeer the beds of children or the heads of the clinically insane or fanatical.....it seems like a strange strategy to me...

How litle you understand. The jinns make previously normal people fanatical and insane. They often hide in childrens' beds in the guise of teddy bears and other soft toys. I have read a reliable account of a jinn taking the form of a comfort blanket.

Are U Afarid.u Reject Allah Existence.so Let Accept The Challenge

I have already excepted the challenge and I am not afraid.. lol

By the way, I slept like a baby last night and there were no djins in sight. So now what ?

where are u enmos.before i leave i want that u write u accept the challenge

Post 70 :rolleyes:

Maybe you should tell them what these jinns look like just so they don't miss them.

Enmos get your camera ready, we'd all love to see these jinns, oh and don't forget your three wishes.. Wait, those are genies. Whatever.

LOL I missed this post last night, damnit..

Of course, don't you believe in invisible life forms with the power of concealment and the ability to do you harm?

Invisible life forms with the power of concealment ? LMAO :D

No problem, personally, I always believe that anyone who thinks jinns, God etc are inviting you to kill people should be lobotomised to cut off the connection.

So in short you think everyone that believes in jins should be lobotomized ?

Invisible life forms with the power of concealment ? LMAO :D

Sure there's plenty of those kinds. Like viruses.

So in short you think everyone that believes in jins should be lobotomized ?

ESL, huh?

LOL I missed this post last night, damnit..

Oh for the love of Gilgamesh!

You were in the absolute perfect position to show the existence of jinns to the entire world, (and earn a packet while doing so), and you faffed it.

It's not like you use one of those silly phone cameras or nothing, you're a dslr man! Pfft.. :D

Sure there's plenty of those kinds. Like viruses.
1. Viruses are NOT invisible, just very small.
2. Do do not conceal themselves.

ESL, huh?
ESL ?

Oh for the love of Gilgamesh!

You were in the absolute perfect position to show the existence of jinns to the entire world, (and earn a packet while doing so), and you faffed it.

It's not like you use one of those silly phone cameras or nothing, you're a dslr man! Pfft.. :D

There was nothing to capture anyway, I guess those Jins are just a bunch of wimps ;)

1. Viruses are NOT invisible, just very small.
2. Do do not conceal themselves.


You can see them?

ESL ?

Guess so.

You can see them?
They can be photographed, so they are not invisible.

Example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Sin_Nombre_virus_Hanta_TEM_1137_lores.jpg/300px-Sin_Nombre_virus_Hanta_TEM_1137_lores.jpg
Hantavirus

Guess so.
What does ESL mean ?

They can be photographed, so they are not invisible.

Example:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Sin_Nombre_virus_Hanta_TEM_1137_lores.jpg/300px-Sin_Nombre_virus_Hanta_TEM_1137_lores.jpg
Hantavirus



How do I know that is what it says it is? How do you?

What does ESL mean ?

Look it up

How do I know that is what it says it is? How do you?
Bit disturbing coming from a theist..


Look it up
Fine.

Bit disturbing coming from a theist..


Only if you're not aware of the process by which viruses are "photographed":p

Only if you're not aware of the process by which viruses are "photographed":p

I imagine it is done with an electron microscope.

Edit: Besides, the capsid is made from light reflecting monomers.

I imagine it is done with an electron microscope.

Edit: Besides, the capsid is made from light reflecting monomers.

Good, now when you "see" a hantavirus coming at you, you can duck. :D

Both Muslims and Christians believe in demons, and both believe they are bad, am I right?
Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that the jinn exist, and that there is a purpose for their existence in this life, which is to worship Allaah Alone, with no partner or associate. Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

“And I (Allaah) created not the jinns and humans, except they should worship Me (Alone).” [al-Dhaariyaat 51:56].

“O assembly of jinns and mankind! Did there not come to you Messengers from amongst you, reciting unto you My Verses…?” [al-An’aam 6:130]

The world of the jinn is an independent and separate world, with its own distinct nature and features that are hidden from the world of humans. Jinns and humans have some things in common, such as the possession of understanding and the choice between the way of good and the way of evil. The word jinn comes from an Arabic root meaning “hidden from sight”. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… Verily he [Shaytaan] and his qabeeluhu [his soldiers from the jinn or his tribe] see you from where you cannot see them…” [al-A’raaf 7:27]

Allaah has told us in His Book the essence from which the jinn were created. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame o fire.” [al-Hijr 15:27]

“And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.” [al-Rahmaan 55:15].

According to a hadeeth narrated by ‘Aa’ishah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels were created from light, the jinn were created from fire, and Aadam was created from that which has been described to you.” (Reported by Muslim, 5314).

Types of jinn

Allaah has created different types of jinn. Among them are some who can take on different forms, such as dogs and snakes; some who are like flying winds with wings; and some who can travel and rest. Abu Tha’labah al-Khushani said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘The jinn are of three types: a types that has wings, and they fly through the air; a type that looks like snakes and dogs; and a type that stops for a rest then resumes its journey.” (Reported by al-Tahhaawi in Mushkil al-Athaar, 4/95, and by al-Tabaraani in al-Kabeer, 22/214. Shaykh al-Albaani said in al-Mishkaat (2/1206, no. 4148): al-Tahhaawi and Abu’l-Shaykh reported it with a saheeh isnaad).

The jinn and the sons of Aadam

Every individual among the sons of Aadam has a jinn who has been appointed to be his constant companion (qareen). Ibn Mas’ood said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘There is not one of you who does not have a jinn appointed to be his constant companion.’ They said, ‘And you too, O Messenger of Allaah?’ He said, ‘Me too, but Allaah has helped me and he has submitted, so that he only helps me to do good.’” (Reported by Muslim, 2814). Al-Nawawi said in his commentary on Muslim (17/175): “‘He has submitted’ … he became a believing Muslim. This is the apparent meaning. Al-Qaadi said: Know that the ummah is agreed upon the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was protected from Shaytaan, physically and mentally, and with regard to his speech. This hadeeth contains a reference to the warning against the fitnah (temptation, trial) and whispers of the qareen (constant companion from among the jinn). We know that he is with us so we should beware of him as much as possible.”

Their powers

Allaah has given the jinn powers that he has not given to humans. Allaah has told us about some of their powers, such as the ability to move and travel quickly. An ‘ifreet from among the jinn guaranteed to the Prophet Sulaymaan (peace be upon him) that he would bring the throne of the Queen of Yemen to Jerusalem in a moment faster than that needed for a man to get up from where he was sitting. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“An ‘ifreet (strong one) from the jinns said: ‘I will bring it [her throne] to you before you rise from your place (council). And verily, I am indeed strong, and trustworthy for such work.’ One with whom was knowledge of the Scripture said: ‘I will bring it to you within the twinkling of an eye!’ – then when Sulaymaan saw it placed before him, he said, ‘This is by the Grace of my Lord…’” [al-Naml 27:39-40].

The food and drink of the jinn

The jinn eat and drink. Ibn Mas’ood said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Someone from among the jinn called me, and I went with him and recited Qur’aan for them.’ He took us and showed us the traces of where they had been and the traces of their fires. They asked him for food and he said, ‘You can have every bone on which the name of Allaah has been mentioned that comes into your possession, as meat, and all the droppings as food for your animals.’ The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘So do not use [these things] for cleaning yourselves [after relieving oneself], for they are the food and provision of your brothers.’” (Reported by Muslim, 450). According to another report: “A delegation of jinn from Naseebeen came to me, and what good jinn they are! They asked me for food and I prayed to Allaah for them, so that they would not pass by bones or droppings, but they would find food on them.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3571). The believing jinn may eat any bone on which the name of Allaah has been mentioned, because the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not permit them to have anything on which Allaah’s name has not been mentioned – those are for the kuffaar among the jinn.

The beasts of the jinn

According to the hadeeth narrated by Ibn Mas’ood, that we have quoted above, the jinn asked the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) for provision, and he said to them: “…and [you can have] all the droppings as food for your animals.”

The dwelling-places of the jinn

The jinn live on this earth where we do. They are mostly to be found in ruins and unclean places like bathrooms, dunghills, garbage dumps and graveyards. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us to take precautions when entering such places, by reciting the adhkaar (prayers) prescribed by Islam. One of these was reported by Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: “When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) entered the toilet, he would say, ‘Allaahumma innee a’oodhu bika min al-khubuthi wa’l-khabaa’ith (O Allaah, I seek refuge with You from the evil ones, male and female).’” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 142; and Muslim, 375). Al-Khattaabi explained that khubuth is the plural of khabeeth (evil or dirty – masculine form), and khabaa’ith is the plural of khabeethah (evil or dirty – feminine form), and that what is meant is male and female shayaateen.

Some jinns are Muslims and some are kaafirs

Allaah tells us that some of the jinn said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘And some of us are Muslims, and of us some are al-qaasitoon (disbelievers – those who have deviated from the Right Path). And whosoever has embraced Islam, then such have sought the Right Path. And as for the qaasitoon, they shall be firewood for Hell.’” [al-Jinn 72:14-15]

The Muslims among the jinn are of different levels as regards righteousness and taqwa. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“[Some jinn said:] ‘There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary; we are groups, each having a different way (religious sects, etc.)’” [al-Jinn 72:11]

The story of how the first jinn of this ummah became Muslim was narrated by ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas, who said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out with a group of his Companions heading for the marketplace of ‘Ukaaz. This was when the shayaateen were prevented from getting any news from heaven, and shooting stars had been sent against them. The shayaateen went back to their people, who said, ‘What is the matter with you?’ They said, ‘We cannot get news from heaven, and shooting stars were sent against us.’ Their people said, ‘Nothing is stopping you from hearing news from heaven except some new event that must have happened. Go and look in the east and the west of the earth, and see if you can find out what it is that is stopping you from hearing news from heaven.’ Those who went out in the direction of Tihaamah came upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in Nakhlah, when he was on his way to ‘Ukaaz, and found him leading his Companions in Fajr prayer. When they heard the Qur’aan, they listened to it and said, ‘By Allaah, this is what is stopping us from hearing news from heaven.’ When they went back to their people, they said, ‘O our people, we have heard a wonderful Recital (the Qur’aan). It guides to the Right Path, and we have believed therein, and we shall never join (in worship) anything with our Lord (Allaah). [al-Jinn 72:2 – interpretation of the meaning]. Then Allaah revealed to His Prophet peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the words (interpretation of the meaning): “Say (O Muhammad): ‘It has been revealed to me that a group of jinns listened (to this Qur’aan)…’ [al-Jinn 72:1], and Allaah revealed to him what the jinn had said.” (reported by al-Bukhaari, 731).

Their reckoning on the Day of Resurrection

The jinn will be called to account on the day of Resurrection. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, concerning the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “… but the jinns know well that they have indeed to appear (before Him) (i.e., they will be brought to account)” [al-Saffaat 37:158]: “They will be brought to judgement.” Saheeh al-Bukhaari, Baab Dhikr al-Jinn wa Thawaabihim wa ‘Iqaabihim.

Protection from the harm of the jinn

Because the jinn can see us while we cannot see them, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us many ways to protect ourselves from their harm, such as seeking refuge with Allaah from the accursed Shaytaan, reciting Soorat al-Falaq and Soorat al-Naas (the last two Soorahs of the Qur’aan), and reciting the words taught by Allaah in the Qur’aan (interpretation of the meaning): “Say: ‘My Lord! I seek refuge with You from the whisperings (suggestions) of the shayaateen (devils). And I seek refuge with You, my Lord, lest they may attend (or come near) me.’” [al-Mu’minoon 23:97-98]

Saying Bismillaah (in the Name of Allaah) before entering one’s home, before eating or drinking, and before having intercourse will also keep the Shaytaan from entering the house or partaking with a person in his food, drink and sexual activity. Similarly, mentioning the name of Allaah before entering the toilet or taking off one’s clothes will prevent the jinn from seeing a person’s ‘awrah or harming him, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “To put a barrier that will prevent the jinn from seeing the ‘awrah of the sons of Aadam, let any one of you say ‘Bismillaah’ when entering the toilet.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 551; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 3611).

Strength of faith and religion in general will also prevent the jinn from harming a person, so much so that if they were to fight, the one who has faith would win. ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “A man from among the Companions of Muhammad met a man from among the jinn. They wrestled, and the human knocked down the jinn. The human said to him, ‘You look small and skinny to me, and your forearms look like the front paws of a dog. Do all the jinn look like this, or only you?’ He said, ‘No, by Allaah, among them I am strong, but let us wrestle again, and if you defeat me I will teach you something that will do you good.’ The human said, ‘Fine.’ He said, ‘Recite, ‘Allaah! None has the right to be worshipped but He, the Ever-living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists…’ [Aayat al-Kursi – al-Baqarah 2:255 – interpretation of the meaning]. The human said, ‘Fine.’ He said, ‘You will never recite this in your house but the Shaytaan will come out of it like a donkey breaking wind, and he will never come back in until the next morning.’” (Reported by al-Daarimi, 3247).

This is a brief summary about the jinn, and their nature and characteristics. Allaah is the Best of protectors and the Most Merciful of those who show mercy.

TAKEN FROM
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=2340&ln=eng&txt=JINNS

Good, now when you "see" a hantavirus coming at you, you can duck. :D

I hope you agree with me though that not being able to see something doesn't have to equate with the something being invisible.

Qur’aan and Sunnah indicate that the jinn exist

Lord of the Rings indicates that hobbits exist. Whatever is your point?

Tresbien,

see post 133 & 134.

Mohamed received the revelation from ALLAH and not from satan.Moreover, it is forbiden in islam to resort to witchcraft.
this basis, it is not permissible to use witchcraft for any purpose whatsoever. Witchcraft or magic is falsehood, and all kinds of falsehood are evil and evildoing. Sin cannot be a means of achieving something good. Beneficial things have to be sought through the prescribed means which involve no sin and whose consequences are safe. Allaah has given His slaves sufficient means in the things that He has permitted them, so they have no need for the things that He has forbidden. To Him be praise and thanks for His blessings.

Mohamed received the revelation from ALLAH and not from satan.Moreover, it is forbiden in islam to resort to witchcraft.
this basis, it is not permissible to use witchcraft for any purpose whatsoever. Witchcraft or magic is falsehood, and all kinds of falsehood are evil and evildoing. Sin cannot be a means of achieving something good. Beneficial things have to be sought through the prescribed means which involve no sin and whose consequences are safe. Allaah has given His slaves sufficient means in the things that He has permitted them, so they have no need for the things that He has forbidden. To Him be praise and thanks for His blessings.

So the Jins being magical beings they must be evil.

Enmos I Am Sure They Visited U.

ENMOS READ PLS
the jinn appear in human form? Do the jinn have a real form?.
Firstly: it should be noted that the basic principle concerning the jinn is that they are concealed from mankind, hence they are called jinn, because the Arabic root janna refers to a single original meaning which is to cover and conceal, as Ibn Faaris said in Maqaayees al-Lughah. The jinn are so called because they are concealed from mankind, and the foetus is called janeen in Arabic because he is concealed in his mother’s womb, and a garden is called jannah because it is concealed by trees, and an insane person is called majnoon because his mind is covered, and so on in all derivations from this root.



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With regard to the second part of the question, which is whether the jinn have a true form:

With regard to this matter of photographs of the jinn, which have fascinated many people and become widespread on some websites, it is not possible to verify the authenticity of what is in these websites, especially nowadays when people are highly skilled in producing in all kinds of deceptive pictures. Moreover researching such matters brings no spiritual or worldly benefit and serves no purpose. It is better to occupy oneself with things that will bring spiritual or worldly benefit such as reading and understanding what is in the Qur’aan and the saheeh Sunnah, and what a person needs to know and do of correct belief and worship, and the proper attitude and etiquette which the Muslim should develop, and so on. It should also be noted that publishing pictures of animate beings is haraam according to sharee’ah as is stated in the texts. See questions no. 13633, 10668 and 7918.

We ask Allaah to protect you and raise you in status and forgive your sins and bless you with knowledge and good deeds, for He is the Best One to be asked.

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=40703&ln=eng

Enmos I Am Sure They Visited U.

They didn't. So now what ?

i am sure.They saw u but u did not see them

let wait crunchy cat doccumentation

Tresbien,

You said these things:
They do not appear to us but come to give u company or strap u or just to frighten u. Allah exists and u will experience his signs.if u lie they will visit again and u will see worse.
U WILL EXPERIENCE MORE THAN U CAN IMAGINE
U WILL HEAR THEIR VOICES OR U WILL FEEL THEM .OK

I was not frightened or strapped (whatever it is).
I have not experienced anything other then sleep
I never heard any voices and I have not felt them either.
So I must conclude that they did not visit.


You have also said this:
IF ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THEY WILL NOT COME TO BOTH OF U.
So what does it mean that these jins didn't show up ? Does it mean Allah doesn't exist ? Or does it just mean that you are full of shit ?


Oh.. and this:
i am sure.They saw u but u did not see them
This contradicts what you said yesterday.
And what on earth is their purpose if they can't been seen, they can't be heard and they can't frighten or influence me in any way ?
What does it matter if they visit me when I don't notice it in the slightest ? You are one deluded prick.. and I suggest you stop threatening people.

.i Am Sure They Came To U.and Believe That They Gave U Company.confess.
To Night U Will FEEL Them Again

i am waiting crunchy cat since he accepted and confirmedthe challenge

.i Am Sure They Came To U.and Believe That They Gave U Company.confess.
To Night U Will FEEL Them Again

Again ?
I have not experienced anything out of the ordinary, get it through your thick deluded skull.

Any comments on my previous post ?

i am waiting crunchy cat since he accepted and confirmedthe challenge

Post 70:
lol read the thread again, I never 'illspoke' of anyone..
But sure, I'll accept the challenge.
I'm just curious what your reasons are.

Do you ever read anything ?

i am sure they came to u.if u lie tonight will be worse

i am sure they came to u.if u lie tonight will be worse

Repeating yourself over and over doesn't make it true tresbien.
I'll be back when you decide to answer the question instead of repeating yourself. You are an embarrassment.

So here is my experience from 5:00 pm yesterday to wake-up time today:

- Assembled and tested my bluetooth stereo.
- Gave a bum some extra crappy fast food.
- Purchased a printer upgrade.
- Ate dinner.
- Hung out with some friends.
- Went to sleep.
- Dreamed about having the worlds largest cubicle.
- Woke up.

Aside from some salmon in my dinner winking at me and saying "hi", no Jinns came over to play... oh and I got a good night sleep.

They didn't. So now what ?

Either you are lying or you were too drunk to notice, Anyway, why should we take your word for it ? You may be possessed by a jinn who, being evil, is forcing you to lie.

If the above is not correct, you had a lucky escape.

Lol, this whole thing makes me both laugh and cry. One for the hilarity that someone believes such shit and one because it's horrendous that someone believes such shit.

Either you are lying or you were too drunk to notice, Anyway, why should we take your word for it ? You may be possessed by a jinn who, being evil, is forcing you to lie.

If the above is not correct, you had a lucky escape.

Maybe I am a Jin.. who knows :mufc:

Lol, this whole thing makes me both laugh and cry. One for the hilarity that someone believes such shit and one because it's horrendous that someone believes such shit.

I know.. and the realization that he's not by far the only one only makes it worse.
Is he so messed up that he believes this shit, or did believing this shit mess him up this much ?

So here is my experience from 5:00 pm yesterday to wake-up time today:

- Assembled and tested my bluetooth stereo.
- Gave a bum some extra crappy fast food.
- Purchased a printer upgrade.
- Ate dinner.
- Hung out with some friends.
- Went to sleep.
- Dreamed about having the worlds largest cubicle.
- Woke up.

Aside from some salmon in my dinner winking at me and saying "hi", no Jinns came over to play... oh and I got a good night sleep.

He went offline as soon as you posted this btw. just thought you should know ;)

I know.. and the realization that he's not by far the only one only makes it worse.

Aye, and these people vote, have children, run countries. Shocker.

He went offline as soon as you posted this btw. just thought you should know ;)

I think young tresbien might be learning a valuable lesson about distinguishing truth from fantasy.

Aye, and these people vote, have children, run countries. Shocker.

I BELIEVE THATGOD IS TRUTH AND HIS WORD IS TRUTH.SO THEY CAME TO BOTH OF U.CONFESS

I think young tresbien might be learning a valuable lesson about distinguishing truth from fantasy.

Or maybe not as the above dissonance suggests.

I BELIEVE IS GOD IS TRUTH AND WORD IS TRUTH.SO THEY CAME TO BOTH OF U

And I believe you've got a problem with your caps lock key. I never understood why someone has to 'shout' on the internet, it's not like the words get any louder.

Why would they come to me? I wasn't part of the challenge I don't think. Having said that however, I did hear this faint 'paarrp' sound last night. I thought it was because I farted, guess not.

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http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=1819&ln=eng&txt=the%20world%20of%20jinn

tresbian, why not admit the simple truth that Jinns don't exist as was amply demonstrated by your failed experiment. When a concept in your mind doesn't correspond to actual reality you have achieved non-truth.

ok u have just read the article above.I believe in God and his word is true.if jins did not appear either is a test by ALLAH to see my reaction or he has not given the permission yet.LET EXTEND IT FOR OTHER TWO DAYS if u do not lie on me.

Oy. Two days isn't going to change the result. A billion days wont change the result. You issued a claim and it was proven false. That is the truth. By persisting the claim all you're doing is lying to us.

Allah Word Is True. He Will Not Fail Me

ok u have just read the article above.I believe in God and his word is true.if jins did not appear either is a test by ALLAH to see my reaction or he has not given the permission yet.LET EXTEND IT FOR OTHER TWO DAYS if u do not lie on me.

Heads. Allah wins. Tails, you lose.

Aye, and these people vote, have children, run countries. Shocker.

Seriously.. :(

I think young tresbien might be learning a valuable lesson about distinguishing truth from fantasy.

I BELIEVE THATGOD IS TRUTH AND HIS WORD IS TRUTH.SO THEY CAME TO BOTH OF U.CONFESS

Or maybe not as the above dissonance suggests.

lol he's hopeless.. ;)

ok u have just read the article above.I believe in God and his word is true.if jins did not appear either is a test by ALLAH to see my reaction or he has not given the permission yet.LET EXTEND IT FOR OTHER TWO DAYS if u do not lie on me.

And so the delusion continues..
I have no words for it..

tresbien is french, excusez loir

tresbien is french, excusez loir excusze moi
VOUS VOULEZ PRENDRE DES COURS EN FRANCAIS. would u like to have french lesons ok.

Tresbien,

based on what you said earlier, what state would your faith be in if the Jinns never show up ?

excusze moi
VOUS VOULEZ PRENDRE DES COURS EN FRANCAIS. would u like to have french lesons ok.

La, al arabiya.

Allah Word Is True. He Will Not Fail Me

allah is a liar and the start of it all. the jinns are demons and the reason they worship allah is because allah is really satan in disguise. You have been deceived greatly. I thank the True God of Abraham YAVEH for making you the laughing stock of this forum.


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

tresbian, adstar just said his delusion can beat up your delusion. Are you gonna take that from him?

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CAN SATAN HAS THIS ATTRIBUTES
TO READ MORE ABOUT ALLAH NAMES VISIT
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/names/names06.php
CRANCHY CAT DO NOT LIE PLS.I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS TRUTH AND NEVER FAILS ME.

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CRANCHY CAT DO NOT LIE PLS.I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS TRUTH AND NEVER FAILS ME.

You're the one whose lying. You made a claim and it didn't happen. Say it with me... IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Come tomorrow morning there will be no Jinn again of course.

“ Originally Posted by tresbien
Allah Word Is True. He Will Not Fail Me ”

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CAN SATAN HAS THIS ATTRIBUTES
TO READ MORE ABOUT ALLAH NAMES VISIT
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/faith/names/names06.php
CRANCHY CAT DO NOT LIE PLS.I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS TRUTH AND NEVER FAILS ME.

Do not waste your satanic verses on me, I will not be fooled by an accursed man who believed the lie from a satanic messenger.

Your evil ploy to trick others into being possessed by demons to get them to embrace your demonic faith has failed.

satan has failed you because of intervention from the True God of Abraham
YAVEH


All Praise The Ancient Of Days

Will there be enough room in the lake of fire for all the millions of Muslims ?

Still no Jinns.. :shrug:
I slept like a baby again.. lol

Still no Jinns.. :shrug:
I slept like a baby again.. lol
GOOD FOR U.

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http://www.islam1.org/khutub/Enemy_of_Man.htm

Still no Jinns.. :shrug:
I slept like a baby again.. lol

I'm not sure I can necessarily agree with that statement. You may have had a restless night but the jinns fooled you into thinking you had slept like a baby.

Still no Jinns.. :shrug:
I slept like a baby again.. lol

Yep, no Jinns here either. Looks like 'Allah' failed you twice tresbian and as a result you lied to us twice.

GOOD FOR U.

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http://www.islam1.org/khutub/Enemy_of_Man.htm

Thanks :)
A good night's rest is important you know..

I'm not sure I can necessarily agree with that statement. You may have had a restless night but the jinns fooled you into thinking you had slept like a baby.

LOL it's all the same to me ;)

Yep, no Jinns here either. Looks like 'Allah' failed you twice tresbian and as a result you lied to us twice.

Maybe Allah will now be pissed off at tresbien because he lied. Maybe he can expect those Jinns now.. lol

LOL it's all the same to me ;)

There, you have just proved my point. You don't know you are possessed. Help is on the way. I have sent a posse of imams to sort you out. I hope they get to you in time .

I look like this now, I don't know how it happened.. help me please.. :bawl:
http://www.bibleprobe.com/notsonice1.jpg

I look like this now, I don't know how it happened.. help me please.. :bawl:
http://www.bibleprobe.com/notsonice1.jpg

What are you complaining about. That's a great improvement. You may even get a girlfriend now. What a good thing I was praying fpr you/

What are you complaining about. That's a great improvement. You may even get a girlfriend now. What a good thing I was praying fpr you/

lmao.. ok thanks then.. :(

i am sure u saw the evidence.THough u see now many miracles, u will reject GOD.. What is your god? Is it your desires? - Is it your work? - Is it fashion? - Is it your family? - Is it your nation? -

Whatever your gods may be, becoming a Muslim frees you from the service of them and brings you to the service of Allah and only Allah.

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I Talked To My Friend.he Said He Might FEEL THEM But He Insists On DiSbelief

i am sure u saw the evidence.THough u see now many miracles, u will reject GOD.. What is your god? Is it your desires? - Is it your work? - Is it fashion? - Is it your family? - Is it your nation? -

Whatever your gods may be, becoming a Muslim frees you from the service of them and brings you to the service of Allah and only Allah.

]

Money is my god. I pray in the bank twice a day.

Money is my god. I pray in the bank twice a day.


I AM MUSLIM I DO NOT GIVE BRIBE TO MAKE U BELIEVE.MAY BE U WILL FIND A MISIONARY DEPOSITTING MONEY .SMELL THEM OR TAKE MUCH TO KISS AT THE BANK

hmmmmmmm maybe if your bribe me, I might come around!

hmmmmmmm maybe if your bribe me, I might come around!

shorty
*{[Here is] a parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and grace from their Lord. [Can those in such bliss] be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels [to pieces].}* (Muhammad 47:15)

shorty
*{[Here is] a parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and grace from their Lord. [Can those in such bliss] be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels [to pieces].}* (Muhammad 47:15)

The Prophet said: If anyone testifies [sincerely from his heart] that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His Bondsman and His Messenger, Allah immunizes him from Hell. He [the narrator] then added: I asked the Messenger of Allah: Should I then give the tiding to the people? He [the Prophet] said: Do not tell them this good news, for they would depend on this alone. (Reported by Muslim.)

The Prophet said: If anyone testifies [sincerely from his heart] that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His Bondsman and His Messenger, Allah immunizes him from Hell.

So, in your world, everyone is going to hell, unless they testify that there is no god but Allah, even though it was supposed to be Allah who created everyone. So, he created everyone to go to hell. :shrug:

I'll meet you half way and just say that there is no god...

i am sure u saw the evidence.THough u see now many miracles, u will reject GOD.. What is your god? Is it your desires? - Is it your work? - Is it fashion? - Is it your family? - Is it your nation? -

Whatever your gods may be, becoming a Muslim frees you from the service of them and brings you to the service of Allah and only Allah.

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I have no Gods, and I don't think any Gods exist.

Btw. it's day three now and still no Jinn in sight. I'm starting to worry I am doing something wrong. Maybe it's my deodorant..

shorty
*{[Here is] a parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and grace from their Lord. [Can those in such bliss] be compared to such as shall dwell forever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels [to pieces].}* (Muhammad 47:15)

I can't eat honey because of my diabetes but I would be very keen if I could have a few virgins in paradise. Is this possible ?

i am sure u saw the evidence.THough u see now many miracles, u will reject GOD.. What is your god? Is it your desires? - Is it your work? - Is it fashion? - Is it your family? - Is it your nation? -

Whatever your gods may be, becoming a Muslim frees you from the service of them and brings you to the service of Allah and only Allah.

]
God does not need servants. God would be all powerful. Able to do anything with the merest thought.

Still no Jinns tresbian. Looks like 'Allah' failed you again and you persisted the lie.

What about my virgins ?

What about my virgins ?

MYLES ARE U MARRIED


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MYLES ARE U MARRIED


(Qasirat At-Tarf) chaste females, wives restraining their glances, desiring none except their husbands, seeing them as the most beautiful men in Paradise. This was said by Ibn `Abbas, Qatadah, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and Ibn Zayd. It was reported that one of these wives will say to her husband, "By Allah! I neither see anything in Paradise more handsome than you nor more beloved to me than you. So praise be to Allah Who made you for me and made me for you.'' Allah said,


[لَمْ يَطْمِثْهُنَّ إِنسٌ قَبْلَهُمْ وَلاَ جَآنٌّ ]


(whom never deflowered a human before nor Jinn ) meaning they are delightful virgins of comparable age who never had sexual intercourse with anyone, whether from mankind or Jinns, before their husbands. This is also a proof that the believers among the Jinns will enter Paradise. Artat bin Al-Mundhir said, "Damrah bin Habib was asked if the Jinns will enter Paradise and he said, `Yes, and they will get married. The Jinns will have Jinn women and the humans will have female humans.''' Allah's statement,


[لَمْ يَطْمِثْهُنَّ إِنسٌ قَبْلَهُمْ وَلاَ جَآنٌّ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ ]


(whom never deflowered a human before nor Jinn. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) Then Allah describes these women for the proposed:


[كَأَنَّهُنَّ الْيَاقُوتُ وَالْمَرْجَانُ ]


(they are like Yaqut and Marjan.) Mujahid, Al-Hasan, Ibn Zayd and others said, "They are as pure as rubies and white as Marjan.'' So here they described Marjan as pearls. Imam Muslim recorded that Muhammad bin Sirin said, "Some people either boasted or just wondered who are more in Paradise, men or women. Abu Hurayrah said, `Has not Abu Al-Qasim (Muhammad ) said,


«إِنَّ أَوَّلَ زُمْرَةٍ تَدْخُلُ الْجَنَّةَ عَلَى صُورَةِ الْقَمَرِ لَيْلَةَ الْبَدْرِ، وَالَّتِي تَلِيهَا عَلَى (أَضْوَءِ) كَوْكَبٍ دُرِّيَ فِي السَّمَاءِ، لِكُلِّ امْرِىءٍ مِنْهُمْ زَوْجَتَانِ اثْنَتَانِ، يُرَى مُخُّ سُوقِهِمَا مِنْ وَرَاءِ اللَّحْمِ، وَمَا فِي الْجَنَّةِ أَعْزَب»


(Verily, the first group that will enter Paradise will look like the moon when it is full, and the next batch will be as radiant as the radiant star in the sky. Each one of them will marry two wives. The marrow of the bones of their shins will be seen through the flesh. None will be unmarried in Paradise.) This Hadith was recorded in the Two Sahihs. Imam Ahmad recorded that Anas said that the Messenger of Allah said,


«لَغَدْوَةٌ فِي سَبِيلِ اللهِ أَوْ رَوْحَةٌ خَيْرٌ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا وَمَا فِيهَا، وَلَقَابُ قَوسِ أَحَدِكُمْ، أَوْ مَوْضِعُ قِدِّهِ يَعْنِي سَوْطَهُ مِنَ الْجَنَّةِ خَيْرٌ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا وَمَا فِيهَا، وَلَوِ اطَّلَعَتِ امْرَأَةٌ مِنْ نِسَاءِ أَهْلِ الْجَنَّةِ إِلَى الْأَرْضِ لَمَلَأَتْ مَا بَيْنَهُمَا رِيحًا، وَلَطَابَ مَا بَيْنَهُمَا، وَلَنَصِيفُهَا عَلَى رَأْسِهَا خَيْرٌ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا وَمَا فِيهَا»


(A morning or an evening journey in Allah's cause is better than the world and whatever is on its surface. And a place in Paradise as small as that occupied by the whip of one of you, is better than the world and whatever is on its surface. If one of the women of the people of Paradise looks directly at the earth, she will fill what is between Paradise and earth with a good scent and all of it will become delightful. Verily, the veil over her head is better than this life and all that is on its surface.) Al-Bukhari also collected a similar narration. Allah the Exalted said,


[هَلْ جَزَآءُ الإِحْسَـنِ إِلاَّ الإِحْسَـنُ ]


(Is there any reward for good other than good) Allah declares that in the Hereafter, all that is good and righteous is the only befitting reward for those who do good deeds in this life,


[لِّلَّذِينَ أَحْسَنُواْ الْحُسْنَى وَزِيَادَةٌ]


(For those who have done good is best (reward) and even more.)(10:26) All of these are tremendous blessings that cannot be earned merely by good deeds, but by Allah's favor and bounty, after all of these He says;


[فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ ]


(Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny)


[وَمِن دُونِهِمَا جَنَّتَانِ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ مُدْهَآمَّتَانِ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ فِيهِمَا عَيْنَانِ نَضَّاخَتَانِ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ فِيهِمَا فَـكِهَةٌ وَنَخْلٌ وَرُمَّانٌ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ فِيهِنَّ خَيْرَتٌ حِسَانٌ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ حُورٌ مَّقْصُورَتٌ فِى الْخِيَامِ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ لَمْ يَطْمِثْهُنَّ إِنسٌ قَبْلَهُمْ وَلاَ جَآنٌّ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ مُتَّكِئِينَ عَلَى رَفْرَفٍ خُضْرٍ وَعَبْقَرِىٍّ حِسَانٍ فَبِأَىِّ ءَالاءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ تَبَـرَكَ اسْمُ رَبِّكَ ذِى الْجَلَـلِ وَالإِكْرَامِ ]


(62. And below these two, there are two other Gardens.) (63. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (64. Mudhammatan.) (65. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (66. In them (both) will be two springs Naddakhatan.) (67. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (68. In them (both) will be fruits, and date palms and pomegranates.) (69. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (70. Therein (Gardens) will be Khayrat Hisan;) (71. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (72. Hur (beautiful, fair females) guarded in pavilions;) (73. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (74. Whom never deflowered a human before nor Jinn.) (75. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (76. Reclining on green Rafraf and rich beautiful `Abqariy.) (77. Then which of the blessings of your Lord will you both deny) (78. Blessed be the Name of your Lord, Dhil-Jalali wal-Ikram.)


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I still don't know how many virgins I can have. Do you know , or must I simply guess >

I have heard different numbers of wives for martyrs a, anything from 12 to 72. Could you explain the true figure to me.


Lastly does a woman in paradise have the right to remain monogamous ?

the very beginning, we would like to cite Ibn Kathir’s comment on the issue of men having Hoor Al-`Een. It reads:“ Almighty Allah tells us that He will provide the residents of Paradise with beautiful wives who have big and lustrous eyes and 'whom no man or Jinn before them has touched' and who are 'Like unto rubies and coral'”.

In fact, Paradise is the abode of the believers in the Hereafter. Allah has prepared for His believing servants, males and females, in Paradise indescribable bliss that which no eye has seen, no ear has heard of and that has never ever crossed the minds of people, to the extent that even the person who has the least blessings in Paradise will think that he is the most blessed one.

In more than one Qur'anic verse, Allah, Most High, calls upon His servants to do their utmost in order to be favored with Paradise. For example, He says, "And vie one with another for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared for those who ward off (evil)." (Al `Imran: 133)

All this indicates that in Paradise believing men and women will be showered with blessings; there is no room for discrimination based on gender in Paradise.

Focusing more on this issue, Sheikh `Atiyyah Saqr, former Head of Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee, adds:

“Here Allah mentions the Hoor Al`Een because in most cases men pursue women and not vice versa. As for women, Allah Almighty may marry them to any of the believers in Paradise, if they did not get married during worldly life, or He may compensate them by making them feel content with their position. It is also said that Allah may grant women some kind of beauty with which they will feel that they are better than the Hoor Al-`Een and that they are their mistress, so they will not love anyone other than their own husbands nor will they feel jealous of the Hoor Al-`Een.”

The issue of a woman’s choice of a husband in Paradise was also examined by Imam Al-Qurtubi in his At-Tadhkirah fi Ahwal Al-Mawta wa 'Umur Al-Akhirah, (vol. 2, p. 640). He cited many reports about the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and the Companions (may Allah be pleased with all of them). But the aspect in which Imam Al-Qurtubi handled the issue was with regard to those women who married more than once in this world. Which husband would they live with in Paradise? According to him, this will be based on their choice and the kind treatment of the husbands in this world.

However, it is to be mentioned that the conditions and personality of the people in Paradise are not to be compared to those of the people in this world. One’s conditions change completely in Paradise. A person in Paradise will be a symbol of purity and mildness. There will be no room for arrogance, malice, hatred, and other such negative qualities.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543756

Day 4: I feel Allah has really failed you this time (most probably every time though); the Jinns are no where to be seen, heard, felt, or whatever...

Yep, no Jinns here either.

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Are these pleasures real? If they are creations of God's mind, like the matrix, or a virtual world, then it's not much to be thankful for. It takes no more effort to program pleasures than tortures.

Isn't this just a fake promise to make people act the way you want them to? It's just how people raise kids, the promise of rewards and the threat of pain.

Day 4: I feel Allah has really failed you this time (most probably every time though); the Jinns are no where to be seen, heard, felt, or whatever...

You are obviously too evil for standard issue jinns to handle. Have you eaten pork and lied about it ? You can take it that officer-class jinns are on the way to sort you out. Be sensible and change your wicked behaviour before it's too late.

ENMOS AND CRNCHY CAT
Each one of us has a companion jin that whispers to him or her.This jin eats with you your food if u do not mention God name before u.His role is to keep u astray from ALLAh AND MAKE ALL U ACTIONS FAIR SEEMING

ENMOS AND CRNCHY CAT
Each one of us has a companion jin that whispers to him or her.This jin eats with you your food if u do not mention God name before u.His role is to keep u astray from ALLAh AND MAKE ALL U ACTIONS FAIR SEEMING

Once u listen to this , all of u will feel such inner peace

http://www.geevideos.com/watch/2071895122/roqya/

ENMOS AND CRNCHY CAT
Each one of us has a companion jin that whispers to him or her.This jin eats with you your food if u do not mention God name before u.His role is to keep u astray from ALLAh AND MAKE ALL U ACTIONS FAIR SEEMING

My Jinn must really be hating all the gluten free products he's been eating. Aside from that you made an explicit claim and it did not happen. Do you remember that (if not I can link your post)? That makes you a liar and any follow-up claims such as the one above are more lies. Why are you lying so much?

He's probably lonely and neds a few jinns to keep him company.

He's probably hanging on to my and Crunchy's Jinn already..

Day 5: ..oh what the hell..

He's probably hanging on to my and Crunchy's Jinn already..

Day 5: ..oh what the hell..

Why are you so bloodywell impatient. Wait in line like the rest of us. It can only get worse.The jinns have a particular hatred for anyone who wears clogs and grows tulips.

Why are you so bloodywell impatient. Wait in line like the rest of us. It can only get worse.The jinns have a particular hatred for anyone who wears clogs and grows tulips.

LOL tulips, clogs ?
I can see why they would.. :p

.The jinns have a particular hatred for anyone who wears clogs and grows tulips.

what are the jinns?

what are the jinns?

Ask tresbien :p

i will pray honestly that they come to both of u.pls do not be angry with me.But pls how do i know u do not lie

i will pray honestly that they come to both of u.pls do not be angry with me.But pls how do i know u do not lie

Why would I lie about it ?

Praying that they visit us isn't quite the noblest thing a Muslim can do is it ? But you go ahead..

what to .u have forced me into doing this.have u seen some snakes , dogs in u dream.

what to .u have forced me into doing this.have u seen some snakes , dogs in u dream.

I haven't forced you to do anything.
And no, I haven't seen any dogs or snake in my dream.

Just admit that you were wrong Tresbien..

they can appear in u dream.They do not appear physically.if u see black dog or nake they are them.if u dream some following u or trying to choke u or frighten u they are jins.ok enmos and crunchy cat.okkkkkkkkk

OK, and I never dreamed about any of those as far as I know OK ? OOOOOOOOOOKKK ?

So, have you seen jinns tresbien?

what ensures me u say the truth

The more u worship ALLAH , the more u faith increaseS , satan sends his soldiers to distrat u from worshipping God OR TO FRIGHTEN U TO HAMPER U FROM WALKING TOWARDS allah.I SOMETIMES FIGHT WITH DISBELEVERS AMONG THEM.THEY COME IN DREAM OR JUST U HEAR SOME SOUNDS SUCH AS PLATES AND GLASES OR FRIGHTENING
RTEADING QURAN WARD THEM OFF.
IF ENMOS AND CRANCHY CAT WERE BELIEVER ? THEY WOULD FEEL SATAN WHISPERS AND SEEK REGUGE IN ALLAH FROM THEM

tresbien,

they can appear in u dream.They do not appear physically.if u see black dog or nake they are them.if u dream some following u or trying to choke u or frighten u they are jins.ok enmos and crunchy cat.okkkkkkkkkThat's fine. If things imagined appear in dreams then they remain imaginary.

There is nothing mystical about dreams. Dreams mainly occur as protein is replenished in the synapses in the brain. These are the connections between neurons. Changes to synapses generally result in random neuron firings which the brain then attempts to interpret in as meaningful way as possible. The synapses that undergo the greatest change are those that were recently active. I.e. if you spent some time during the day imagining and fearing jinns then those synapses that were involved in those thoughts would be targets of overnight cleanup - i.e. dreams.

Synapses are the target for most hallucinogenic drugs as well.

Jinns are simply mythical concepts and play no part in reality.

what ensures me u say the truth

Whatever dude.. :bugeye:

yes but they come .u can not see them in front of u but u feel something unusual wrong if u are awake.I believe in their presence out of belief in QURAN and The prophet saying.

yes but they come .u can not see them in front of u but u feel something unusual wrong if u are awake.I believe in their presence out of belief in QURAN and The prophet saying.

Why do you believe in the Quran ? It may be wrong.

It's getting vaguer and vaguer..
May I remind you of what you said earlier ?

I quoted the entire post:
Tresbien,

You said these things:
They do not appear to us but come to give u company or strap u or just to frighten u. Allah exists and u will experience his signs.if u lie they will visit again and u will see worse.
U WILL EXPERIENCE MORE THAN U CAN IMAGINE
U WILL HEAR THEIR VOICES OR U WILL FEEL THEM .OK

I was not frightened or strapped (whatever it is).
I have not experienced anything other then sleep
I never heard any voices and I have not felt them either.
So I must conclude that they did not visit.


You have also said this:
IF ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST. THEY WILL NOT COME TO BOTH OF U.

So what does it mean that these jins didn't show up ? Does it mean Allah doesn't exist ? Or does it just mean that you are full of shit ?


Oh.. and this:
i am sure.They saw u but u did not see them

This contradicts what you said yesterday.
And what on earth is their purpose if they can't been seen, they can't be heard and they can't frighten or influence me in any way ?
What does it matter if they visit me when I don't notice it in the slightest ? You are one deluded prick.. and I suggest you stop threatening people.

Needless to say I never got a real response from you.