Snipes was found not guilty of tax-fraud while ripping off the U.S. gov of taxes on $38 MILLION. :mad:

He was convicted on three misdemeanor counts of failing to file a tax return.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327714,00.html

I hope he gets the max 16-year sentence. :mad:

He was found innocent, therefore he is innocent in the eyes of our justice system, and the max sentence for the misdemeanors is 3 years, but he wont get any time at all.

Snipes was found not guilty of tax-fraud while ripping off the U.S. gov of taxes on $38 MILLION. :mad:

He was convicted on three misdemeanor counts of failing to file a tax return.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327714,00.html

I hope he gets the max 16-year sentence. :mad:

That first sentence is a blatant lie, he was found innocent so therefore isn't deemed to have ripped the government off at all.
I don't think anybody really cares what you have to say anymore anyway.

What does Wesley Snipes have to do with politics? :p

Snipes is a pathetic liberal POS who ripped off the U.S. government. He was found not-guilty on tax fraud charges, but guilty on the misdemeanors. Not-guilty is not the same as innocent. :rolleyes:

I was just waiting to hear that. I had no idea if he was liberal, but if Sandy is complaining about it, he must be.

I was just waiting to hear that. I had no idea if he was liberal, but if Sandy is complaining about it, he must be.

Smart man.......:D

Snipes is a pathetic liberal POS who ripped off the U.S. government. He was found not-guilty on tax fraud charges, but guilty on the misdemeanors. Not-guilty is not the same as innocent. :rolleyes:

oh so the only reason its wrong is cause he is a liberal if he was a conservative it would be fine by you
and if by not the same you mean defintion of than yes your right

He was found not-guilty on tax fraud charges, but guilty on the misdemeanors. Not-guilty is not the same as innocent.

That's not necessarily the falsehood in question.

To the other, it's interesting to note that you reject tax protests:

Snipes had faced up to 16 years in prison if convicted on all charges, but can now only get up to three years. The "Blade" star and two co-defendants had been indicted in 2006 after Snipes stopped paying, using tax protest arguments long rejected by the courts ....

.... "Mr. Snipes has always been committed to doing the right thing, and after this trial is over he'll make whatever amends are required," defense attorney Robert Bernhoft said. "But this is a man of integrity."

Snipes' lawyers argued that he was a victim of crooked advisers, and the jury seemed to believe it. Co-defendants Eddie Ray Kahn, the founder of a tax protest group, and Douglas P. Rosile, an accountant who lost his licenses, were convicted Friday by the same panel of tax fraud and conspiracy. Both face up to 10 years in prison.

(Associated Press (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327714,00.html))
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Notes:

Reed, Travis. "Wesley Snipes Found Not Guilty of Federal Tax-Fraud Charges, Convicted on 3 Misdemeanor Counts". Associated Press. February 1, 2008. See http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hqRdIQN43C8lgKXjzAris2-Xu0YAD8UHQN100

Another example of conservative Sandy holding a brother down. Innocent until proven black. :D (Thereafter, guilty even if proven innocent.)

Another example of conservative Sandy holding a brother down. Innocent until proven black. :D (Thereafter, guilty even if proven innocent.)

:roflmao:

That reminded me of Chris Rock for some reason....

I wonder if Sandy is bothered by Bush's tax returns. (info here: http://makethemaccountable.com/tax/SaleOfBaseballTeam.htm - if not already known)

I think it's stupid to put people in jail for not paying taxes. Just make them pay and fine them. Reserve the jails for the violent criminals.

I thought he wasn't found guilty of conspiring not to pay his taxes, but he was found guilty of not paying them.
Kinda like "whoopsie! Did I forget to pay then. My Bad"

and I think he did conspire. He paid taxes for years and then 'forgot' Who the hell forgets?!

I put this in politics because he ripped off my government. He touted/harassed the IRS mocking them in his arrogance. He deserves the max sentence. I LOVED how the bank put his $2 million house in foreclosure for non-payment of taxes. And when he tried to get a $7.3M refund from the IRS in 2002 when his income was $0. :D

"Those who intentionally and unlawfully harass the IRS through deceit, trickery and fraud undermine the collection of revenue that is vital to every aspect of the operation of our government."

He just stopped paying taxes in 2000. And then tried to pay some with bogus checks. He's a moron. :rolleyes:

He can best bet he will be audited for the rest of his life. :eek:

Snipes is a pathetic liberal POS who ripped off the U.S. government. He was found not-guilty on tax fraud charges, but guilty on the misdemeanors. Not-guilty is not the same as innocent. :rolleyes:

I can just imagine you on the House of Un American Activities Committee.

Snipes should have done what other very wealthy people do. Lobby and buy governement collaboration in creating more tax breaks for themselves.

This would be legal, if equally immoral, and would have saved him a lot of hassle.

Yeah. I would be real liberal. Not. :)

Snipes should have done what other very wealthy people do. Lobby and buy governement collaboration in creating more tax breaks for themselves.This would be legal, if equally immoral, and would have saved him a lot of hassle.

We already pay more taxes than anyone else. The top 50% of wage earners pay 97% of all taxes.

We pay and we don't whine about it. We don't want them raised but most of us don't complain. It's the price you pay for making a lot.

Snipes was just an arrogant idiot. You don't fight the IRS and win. Ever. ;)

You don't fight the IRS and win. Ever. ;)

That's why the federal income tax and the IRS ought to be destroyed! :jason:

Not-guilty is not the same as innocent.


Maybe not but it is the same as NOT-GUILTY. Should we just toss out the judicial system and punish everyone whether or not they guilty or not? Not guilty is obviously a concept you don't seem to understand....

That's why the federal income tax and the IRS ought to be destroyed! :jason:AMEN!

Snipes was just an arrogant idiot. . ;)
Thank you for acknowledging the obvious. His being 'liberal' has nothing to do with this issue.

Former Manhattan GOP Leader admits Tax Evasion

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...s-tax-evasion/

Guiliani Friend And GOP - guess what tax evader

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11162007...lea_964257.htm

November28, 2006: U.S. Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-San Diego) pleads guilty to conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion, and a separate tax-evasion violation for failing to disclose income in 2004
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I checked the archives and cannot find Sandy's outrage at conservative tax evaders. This can only be because she did not realize that people who are incredibly anti-tax are sometimes, oddly enough, tax evaders. Now knowing this I am sure she will write outraged threads about the behavior of her peers. Well, she has no peers, but those of similar political persuasion.

Sandy: thank you, in advance for you kind attention to this matter.

Note: the above came up in just two minutes of googling and cutting and pasting and I ignored older references to Republican and conservative tax evasion. There were many of these.

Your links are useless/nothing. They don't even open. :rolleyes: I don't care about other tax evaders. They're all scum. They want a free ride--to take all of what the USA offers and pay nothing back for gov services. They are losers. I don't care who they are or which party they belong to.

Snipes was found not guilty of tax-fraud while ripping off the U.S. gov of taxes on $38 MILLION. :mad:

He was convicted on three misdemeanor counts of failing to file a tax return.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327714,00.html

I hope he gets the max 16-year sentence. :mad:

Yet again you show yourself to be a good Christian. " Vengeance is mine saith the Lord", except when I delegate my authority to Sandy.

Your links are useless/nothing. They don't even open. :rolleyes: I don't care about other tax evaders. They're all scum. They want a free ride--to take all of what the USA offers and pay nothing back for gov services. They are losers. I don't care who they are or which party they belong to.
Obviously you do care or you would not have repeatedly referred to Wesley Snipes as liberal. You have not mentioned cases where conservatives who are extremely active politically - see the first article below - were evading taxes. This is childish behavior on your part. The following cases received quite a bit of press and there have been many others like them. Suddenly Sandy wakes up to the issue of tax evasion when it involves a 'liberal'. And by the way, on a Conservative site that rates people as to how liberal they are Mr. Snipes receives a whopping -1, with Conservative being 0. He is a hardly a poster boy for liberal activism. He's a rich movie star. At least you had the restraint not to refer to him as 'black tax evader Wesley Snipes' though really your 'liberal Wesley Snipes' is just as silly without the racist overtones.

November 15, 2007, 1:54 pm
Former Manhattan G.O.P. Leader Admits Tax Evasion

By Anemona Hartocollis
James A. OrtenzioJames A. Ortenzio pleaded guilty today at State Supreme Court in Manhattan.

The former chairman of the Manhattan Republican organization pleaded guilty this morning to tax evasion and violating the public officers’ law in connection with money he was paid as a consultant to a real estate company and as an arbitrator in a dispute over helicopter services on the West Side.

The former chairman, James A. Ortenzio, 62, admitted in a hearing in State Supreme Court in Manhattan that he had knowingly failed to disclose the income, totaling about $180,000, that he made in 2004 and 2005. He made the admission as part of a deal with prosecutors, in exchange for a promise that he would be sentenced to five years of probation.

Mr. Ortenzio read a written statement in court admitting that in September 2004, while he was chairman of the Republican club, he was paid $100,000 by the Fisher Brothers partnership, a real estate concern on Park Avenue, for consulting services. He said that “with intent to deceive,” he did not report the payment on a financial disclosure form required of public officers by the State Ethics Commission in an effort to hide the fact that he received the money.

He also admitted that in June 2004, he was retained to mediate a dispute between Air Pegasus of New York Inc. and Sightseeing Tours of America Inc., which provide helicopter service in Manhattan. He said that in 2005, he was paid $80,000 for his services, and that he filed false tax returns by intentionally failing to disclose the income.

Asked by Justice Laura A. Ward whether there was any impediment to his understanding the nature of his guilty plea, Mr. Ortenzio replied, “No, your honor.”

Mr. Ortenzio’s lawyer, Randy M. Mastro, who was a deputy mayor in the administration of Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said after the hearing that Mr. Ortenzio was “a good and decent man who made a mistake that he regrets,” and who was accepting his responsibility for that mistake.

Mr. Mastro stressed that the money Mr. Ortenzio had been paid in both cases was “perfectly legal,” and suggested that his “mistake” should be put in the context of “exceptional and dedicated pro bono public service that this man has given to New York.”

Robert M. Morgenthau, the Manhattan district attorney, said that the investigation into Mr. Ortenzio grew out of an earlier investigation into the Cipriani family restaurant business. Mr. Morgenthau said that preliminary information about Mr. Ortenzio had “started with an over-the-transom letter, an anonymous letter.”

Mr. Morgenthau said that the letter alleged “collusive bidding at Pier 57 and that Ortenzio used his influence to obtain a contract for Cipriani.”

He said that to this day, prosecutors do not know the source of the letter. No such charges have been filed against Mr. Ortenzio, however.

Mr. Ortenzio, who built a business as a wholesale meat supplier and owns several meat processing companies, was a distributor of meat and other foods to Cipriani restaurants, Mr. Morgenthau said.

Mr. Ortenzio has been active in Republican circles for years. In 1995, he was named by Gov. George E. Pataki to the board of trustees of Cornell University. By 1996, Mr. Ortenzio had been named chairman of the Hudson River Park Conservancy, a part of the Empire State Development Corporation. (The conservancy was later subsumed, 1999, by the Hudson River Park Trust. Mr. Ortenzio was named its first chairman.)

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November28, 2006: U.S. Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-San Diego) pleads guilty to conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud and tax evasion, and a separate tax-evasion violation for failing to disclose income in 2004

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Ex-CEO regrets 'mission' to take on IRS

By RANDY FURST, Star Tribune

December 30, 2007

Robert Beale's world is in collapse.

Not so very long ago, he had a wife, a family and substantial wealth. He was a leader of his church and a successful business executive.

Then he decided he had the legal right to stop paying his taxes.

Now Beale wears the orange jumpsuit of a jail inmate, back in custody after 14 months as a fugitive. His wife has divorced him and seized his assets. His son has ousted him from the Maple Grove computer firm Beale founded.

He spends his days in a jail cell, preparing for a trial that could send him to federal prison for a decade or more for tax evasion and unlawful flight.

"The hardest part is thinking about family and friends on the outside," said Beale, 64. "Emotionally, it's horrible ..."

Beale said: "In hindsight, I believe I was not wise. I'm sorry I even took this mission. ... I was very naive."

Regrets taking on IRS

Beale got involved in the tax protest movement years ago. He failed to show up for his federal trial in Minneapolis in August 2006, resulting in a 14½-month manhunt.

Now held at the Sherburne County jail in Elk River, Beale talked about the reasons he went on the lam (he needed more time to prepare his case), his life as a fugitive (he took a cruise) and how he got caught (he said his ex-wife tipped off authorities). He said he regretted taking on the IRS and failing to pay his taxes.

"I never imagined they would take such a hard line," he said. "I assumed if they ended up disagreeing with me, I would just pay the taxes."

While no household name, Beale has been in the spotlight before. He was Minnesota campaign manager for Pat Robertson, the conservative television evangelist who ran unsuccessfully for president in 1988.

For about 10 years until the mid-1990s, Beale said he was a major contributor and board member of Living Word Christian Center, a large Brooklyn Park church where Mac Hammond is senior pastor.

Hammond said through his daughter-in-law and assistant, Kristin Hammond, that he and Beale "had points of disagreement and taxes were one of them." Hammond said "he was very sorry for what has happened to Bob."

Beale, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology graduate, was an engineer with an entrepreneurial touch. A firm called Artist Graphics that he started in the early 1980s had revenue of up to $35 million a year by the end of the decade, according to his eldest son, Theodore Beale, who now lives in Italy.

As the computer graphics industry shifted from computer cards to chips, the firm folded. But Beale had started Comtrol, which makes devices that connect peripherals like printers and modems to computers. Comtrol's revenues rose to about $25 million, and at its peak it had up to 100 employees, Theodore Beale said.

Beale's issues with the IRS surfaced in the early 1990s when he had a dispute with the IRS over an Artist Graphics facility located in Ireland, Theodore Beale said.

Anti-tax crusaders

Beale later began reading books about the tax code. One was by Irwin Schiff, one of the nation's leading anti-tax crusaders. Beale attended one of Schiff's seminars.

In February 2006, Schiff, 78, was sentenced to more than 13 years in federal prison for advising people that no U.S. law requires them to pay income tax.

Meanwhile, Beale read more books like Schiff's, and said he concluded that the federal income tax "applies to a profit from business that's related to the federal government and it also applies to any employee of the federal government."

He began filing annual tax statements, he said, claiming he did not think his income was taxable because he was not a federal employee. He said he believed he was on a mission.

The IRS had different ideas. In January 2006, Beale was indicted by the U.S. attorney's office for tax evasion. His passport was confiscated.

Prosecutors declined to comment for this story. In court filings, they indicated Beale did not want Comtrol to pay him directly for his income in 2000, so he and company President Lee Stagni had Beale paid through a shell company, "Chayil."

It functioned as a pass-through entity for concealing Beale's income from the IRS, and Comtrol documents were then backdated, Assistant U.S. Attorney Timothy Rank alleged. Beale filed no federal or state tax returns for 2000 to 2004, even though he received at least $5,696,574 in income, Rank wrote. He also said company employees were told by Beale and Stagni not to file normal payroll documents for Chayil with the IRS.

"It wasn't hidden from anyone," said Beale. "The accounting department knew what my income was. The government could have called me or written my company and found out what my income was."

Beale chose to represent himself in court. Motions he filed early in the case were rejected by U.S. District Judge Ann Montgomery shortly before the trial was to begin on Aug. 14, 2006. Such eleventh-hour rulings are not uncommon, but Beale said he was unprepared for them, and rather than seek a continuance, he fled. "I didn't believe I would get a fair trial," he said.

well, it pisses me off as well that he didn't pay taxes. Taxes pay for schools, police depts, fire depts, etc. We need those things. I know taxes also pay for things we don't want it going to, but you can't just decide you aren't going to pay.
Snipes was being selfish and only thought of himself. Then in court he turns around and blames his accountant.

I don't care about other tax evaders.

This was honest. But it would have been more honest to write 'conservative' rather than 'other'. But we can read between your omissions.

I know who someone who does a more creative form of tax evasion. He makes a pretty good guess as to what his taxes will be for the year and then donates enough money to nonprofits so that he can claim deductions and have the total amount owed to the government be $0.

Would you please stop confusing Sandy with facts.

Thank you for acknowledging the obvious. His being 'liberal' has nothing to do with this issue.

Note: the above came up in just two minutes of googling and cutting and pasting and I ignored older references to Republican and conservative tax evasion. There were many of these.
I think the point of complaining about a rich liberal trying to evade taxes is that they always claim that taxes should be raised, especially on the rich. So when a rich liberal is caught evading taxes, we have the added element of hypocracy.

PS I know nothing of Mr Snipe's politics.

Sweet, at least someone not apart of the government got away with ripping it off.

- N

??? no he didn't. He has to pay plus interest.

I think the point of complaining about a rich liberal trying to evade taxes is that they always claim that taxes should be raised, especially on the rich. So when a rich liberal is caught evading taxes, we have the added element of hypocracy.

PS I know nothing of Mr Snipe's politics.

Sure, I can see that point. I just can't really take Wesley Snipes seriously as a political entity. I believe the conservative sight that rated Mr. Snipes the very mildly liberal -1 mentioned he funded or attended a democratic fund raiser. But maybe he supports democrats around social issues. Or because he rightly or wrongly thinks they get along better with blacks.

'Conservative Bruce Willis gets a divorce and sleeps with younger women.' should make the family values crowd cover their faces in shame, for example.

I could see if a liberal congressman, party organizer, pundit, etc. evaded taxes - and I am absolutely sure, some have - Sandy would be more on the ball.

But calling Wesley Snipes a liberal tax evader seems, well, sort of desperate and misplaced emphasis.

'Conservative Bruce Willis gets a divorce and sleeps with younger women.' should make the family values crowd cover their faces in shame, for example.What? An actor sleeping with young, hot chicks? The scandal!!!! Next you'll be telling me Rock Stars sleep with a lot of younger women.

Anyway. It's not like Bruce dumped his wife and she went off crying and devastated. She's dating (married to?) a much younger guy, Ashton Kutcher.
http://www.mclady.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ashton_kutcher-demimoore1.jpg

What? An actor sleeping with young, hot chicks? The scandal!!!! Next you'll be telling me Rock Stars sleep with a lot of younger women.

Anyway. It's not like Bruce dumped his wife and she went off crying and devastated. She's dating (married to?) a much younger guy, Ashton Kutcher.
http://www.mclady.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ashton_kutcher-demimoore1.jpg

Should have been a question mark at the end of my quote about Bruce Willis. My point was it was equally absurd to run around calling labelling Bruce a conservative sinner hypocrite as labeling Snipes some poster boy for liberalism. They are a couple of movie stars and I can't take either of their politics seriously.

And by the way: to the family values crowd, Bruce's behavior is not offset by Demi's.

Anyway Madanthony, do you really not see my point: that Sandy's harping on Snipes being a liberal tax evader is kind of a lame way to jab at liberal?
I think the point I made about the difference between Snipes, and for example, some of the politicians and Gop movers and shakers is vastly more meaningful. Sandy has never complained about their behavior. And I did acknowledge that there are no doubt tax evaders on the Dem side. I think she is being childish here. Just as childish as I would be to talk about some conservative movies stars hypocrisy. It's a weak and stupid way to take shots at the belief systems, neither of which I am very fond of, by the way.

I wonder if conservative tax evaders think it's not so bad when they evade taxes, because unlike the liberals, they spoke out again taxes.

Anyway Madanthony, do you really not see my point: that Sandy's harping on Snipes being a liberal tax evader is kind of a lame way to jab at liberal?

Just as childish as I would be to talk about some conservative movies stars hypocrisy. It's a weak and stupid way to take shots at the belief systems, neither of which I am very fond of, by the way.It would depend on the person. Some actors are notorious liberals (say, Jane Fonda aka Hanoi Jane). But, I'll concede, Wesley Snipes is not one of them. So yes, it's a cheap shot. But, I hope, all in good fun.
I wonder if conservative tax evaders think it's not so bad when they evade taxes, because unlike the liberals, they spoke out again taxes.I suppose so. Kind of like liberal philanderers get a pass (aka Teddy Kennedy). Of course, our liberal media would never give a conservative tax evader a pass.

...Sandy's harping on Snipes being a liberal tax evader is kind of a lame way to jab at liberal?I think the point I made about the difference between Snipes, and for example, some of the politicians and Gop movers and shakers is vastly more meaningful. Sandy has never complained about their behavior. And I did acknowledge that there are no doubt tax evaders on the Dem side. I think she is being childish here. Just as childish as I would be to talk about some conservative movies stars hypocrisy. It's a weak and stupid way to take shots at the belief systems, neither of which I am very fond of, by the way.

Who's harping? :confused: The story wasn't mainly about his being liberal. I just threw that in because I know it's true. It's about a big star zillionaire ripping off my government. The liberal thing was not the highlight of the story. Geez. :rolleyes:

Who's harping? :confused: The story wasn't mainly about his being liberal. I just threw that in because I know it's true. It's about a big star zillionaire ripping off my government. The liberal thing was not the highlight of the story. Geez. :rolleyes:

if it wasn't important to the story it should not have been mentioned

Who's harping? :confused: The story wasn't mainly about his being liberal. I just threw that in because I know it's true. It's about a big star zillionaire ripping off my government. The liberal thing was not the highlight of the story. Geez. :rolleyes:

It was an odd thing to mention, especially given your silence about conservative tax evaders. So it stood out.

I am sure from now on you will start threads attack conservative tax evaders now that I have pointed it out.

It was an odd thing to mention, especially given your silence about conservative tax evaders. So it stood out.
I am sure from now on you will start threads attack conservative tax evaders now that I have pointed it out.

Read the OP. I said nothing about his liberalism. There are no big conservative movie stars ripping off the gov right now. I would feel/think the same way about them. Criminals are criminals...:(

Conservative members of the House and Senate have made it far easier for the tax cheat to flourish by drastically cutting back on money for tax enforcement. They have also exacerbated the situation with irresponsible rhetoric implying that the Internal Revenue Service is somehow the enemy of the average American. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E0DE1F3BF93AA15750C0A9649C8B 63)

Conservative members of the House and Senate have made it far easier for the tax cheat to flourish by drastically cutting back on money for tax enforcement. They have also exacerbated the situation with irresponsible rhetoric implying that the Internal Revenue Service is somehow the enemy of the average American. (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C06E0DE1F3BF93AA15750C0A9649C8B 63)

I really liked the last sentence of your link:

"Paying one's fair share of taxes is both patriotic and the mark of living in a civilized society."

Snipes is a thief. :(

I don't dispute that.

Snipes is a thief.

But that's his most American quality. ;)

- N

UPDATE (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/24/snipes.sentencing/index.html)

Whoo Hooo! 3 yrs in prison.

UPDATE (http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/24/snipes.sentencing/index.html)

Whoo Hooo! 3 yrs in prison.

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