It finally happened – every singe thread in the Math and Physics forum is now an anti-relativity thread, or a spin-off from an anti-relativity thread.

No if we could only get Paul Dixon to post in here…

Damn... you're right. :(

Time for a dedicated Relativity subforum.

Time for a dedicated Relativity subforum.Heck, I've been saying that for years...

I agree. This does show the need for a relativity subforum. The matter shouldn't even need to be debated with the evidence of the forum being filled with relativity threads.

Question: What will happen to the physics forum when all the relativity threads go bye-bye?

After recovering from the shock, we might actually get some good discussion on Physics and Maths again :)

Maybe someone will discuss math again?

Seriously, if I came across sciforums for the first time and saw the Math and Physics forum in its current state, I don't think I would bother posting anything math or physics related upon seeing all these relativity threads.

Agreed.
Here's the last call for a Relativity subforum: 42249

There wasn't a great voter turnout, but the majority was clear.
Do we need another poll?
What the appropriate way to ask Porfiry for a Relativity subforum under Science?

I think that in many ways the problem is self-reinforcing. If the forum is full of relativity threads, it will attract more people who want to discuss relativity...and people who want to discuss anything else math or physics related will tend to get scared off when they see nothing but relativity threads.

It finally happened – every singe thread in the Math and Physics forum is now an anti-relativity thread, or a spin-off from an anti-relativity thread.

No if we could only get Paul Dixon to post in here… I disagree! There is one thread dealing with tensors.... Ahh crap, that one deals with tensors in relativity.

Agreed.
Here's the last call for a Relativity subforum: 42249

There wasn't a great voter turnout, but the majority was clear.
Do we need another poll?
What the appropriate way to ask Porfiry for a Relativity subforum under Science?
Pete,
What are you trying to do demonstarte the truth of what you believe science is through a political process? The forum in its present state is ripe for attack by the SRT experts in the world who outnumber us poor ragged dissidents, living off the land, by what 10/1?

You have us surrounded Pete, why do you want to surrender? Afraid to take prisoners?

Look at what you are saying? Some arguments have gone against your personal deisres so you want to go somewhere else and play different game? Are you asking for a protective barrier where you may exclude any analysis, data or comment that is contrary to the expectations of SRT? This isn't a church where everyone who attends is assumed to understand that the matter of Jesus' or Mohammed's or Geistkiesel's divinity is not subject to debate.

I have never seen anything popsted by yourself expressing boredom, and in fact have observed some very energetic threads and posts, some more cogent than others where you defended SRT. What do you want to do have a forum where the SRTists give each other hypothetical and real life situations to discuss and where all assume the basic truth of the matter? Do you want to be able to visit a forum where, for instance, one lauding the extreme importance and implications of SRT embedded intrinsically and fundamentally in GPS software is assumed without protest?

I think Pete, you just want to be able to discuss something where everybody present believes as you do? Dissidence, as a way of life, is alien to your thinking modes.

Well that's my opinion on the matter anyway.

Geistkiesel :cool:

I don't think anyone cares if you 'surrender' or not. Just that it's obvious that a new subforum needs to be created.

This is a physics and maths forum. Not a relativity forum. Yet. Every thread deals with relativity and not a single one on other forms of math and/or physics.

This sends a strong message.

A new forum is now mandatory. There can be no question. No poll needed. No discussion needed to be had. The evidence speaks for itself.

I've PM'd Porfiry.

Hi geistkiesel,
As far as I'm concerned, you are welcome on any subforum of sciforums.com.

Please, come with me to the (I hope!) newly to be added Relativity subforum so we can discuss whatever you like without disturbing people who want to discuss other aspects of Maths and Physics.

Pete

The restructuring of any forum is entirely contingent upon the approval of the moderator of that forum, as it will be the moderator who has to manage it all. If James wants it done, then I'll do it.

Thanks Porfiry.
I've PM'd James.

I think it's a good idea, but if we're going to create a subforum of Physics & Math I'd like a little time to think about whether to dedicate a subforum just to relativity, or to split things some other way. After all, if we're going to start splitting the forum into subforums, then the obvious first step would be to separate Physics and Math.

Given the popularity of Relativity as a topic, it certainly seems a dedicated relativity forum would also be a good idea. The question then becomes: what ELSE (if anything) should go in that subforum, and what should the subforum be called?

I'm a little busy for the next couple of days, but will try to think it through and come to a decision.

Let me add my vote in favour of a Relativity sub-forum.

James: I see your point about wanting to separate math from physics since they’re broadly dissimilar topics. The thing is, all of the non-relativity threads related to math and physics could still easily fit in a single forum. I just don’t see a need to create any other new subforums, based on the current trends in message topics. If you created a separate math and physics forum then most likely the math forum would be dead, and the physics forum would just continue to fill up with relativity threads (to the exclusion of everything else).

If you created a separate math and physics forum then most likely the math forum would be dead,Why? A lot of us have mathematical questions - it's true, related to physics in my case - that's no reason not to seperate formalism from experiment.....the physics forum would just continue to fill up with relativity threads.So... have a seperate realtivity sub-forum.

I disagree! There is one thread dealing with tensors.... Ahh crap, that one deals with tensors in relativity.

It does NOT deal with relativity. The only discussion that has taken place in it so far doesn't contain any ideas about relativity.

I'd like to see a Relativity forum up on the same level as Physics and Maths, rather than beneath it.

At the moment, we have no sub-sub-forums (I think the terminology is correct. Sciforums is the forums. All the forums within Sciforums would be sub-forums. So if you nestle a forum within a sub-forum you'd have sub-sub-forums.)

An issue would be the latest post and thread being displayed on the front page. If the new forums was nestled inside of physics and math then this would either not show on the front page or it would cut into the posts made in the regular physics section.

There are a lot of such mundane issues to consider when seeking to change the basic format of the forums.