Was the universe deliberately created to favour life?

I know there are different sides to this, but I have read in a book titled "The Natural History of the Universe," that it very well could have been. In fact, some scientists even say that is was created only to favour intelligent life such as humans! There has been some rare evidence to prove this, but I'm not sure if this theory has been updated over the past few years or not.

 

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We could be the last life alive in the whole universe or we could be the first intelligent forms to be "accidently" created. Or...some alien race created humans and made all the other animals and all the life forms you find on earth billion of years ago and from then life has have evolved to what it is at present time.

 

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we are here just because we can observe the universe

just a coincedance imo

 

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We can only ask this question bacause we are here.
our universe can produce and nuture life, one day we appear and ask the question was this deliberate or chance. For millenia we believed it was deliberate but now some of us are not so sure. I can imagine there are probiably universes which are too hot/unstable/short lived to create life. No one will ever ask the question in these places.

 

agree

 

No, I do not think it was coincidence. I think there is a pattern in it. Also I agree partly with qfrontier. It could've been that extraterrestrial races/species are partly due to human life as it exists now. Extraterrestrial species are certainly not due to the coming to life of the Animal world and nature with all its inhabitants. Life occured through a certain going together of all kinds of isme's. How cryptical, sorry, not the right words in English available.

Further I do not agree with the word evolved. Somehow it doesn't sound right. The word evolution implies to me that life has become better, better life forms, higher life forms if you will. Is this true?

Look at humans nowadays. Is that evolution?

I think it goes for the Animal life, though. All kinds of species, flying, crawling, walking, whatever. And they become extinct...because of the evolved human race.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

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I highly doubt it though, that the Universe was deliberately created to favour life. If that was the case, then where is all the other life in the Universe? It can never be so that life only came into existance on Planet Earth. In the way we know life, I mean.

Oh well, a rather confusing reply I'm afraid. May be because it is time to go to sleep. Forgive me the crappy reply. I hope it makes sense anyhow...In fact I do not believe that the Universe is created in whatever way. What is it with that "created"?

 

what pattern?

of course it could and I tend to agree with you that there are some indications to it (or to a very advanced ancient civilization), but if it were aliens, you don't think that they were modified by some other aliens and so on (reminds me of a infinite turtle tower on which stands earth)

I think that it is true. But life has not become better- evolution also means getting better used to local climate status.
Maybe 65 million years ago dinosaurs were the ultimate life form for earth, but as the climate changed, the requirements also changed. It's a very dinamic system.

Banshee, I think we once agreed to seperate mind evolution from physical evolution

It's not because of evolution, it's because of us. Evolution doesn't tell us to cut out rain forests, we ourselves do. I think you are mixing evolution with god here. Evolution doesn't have a clear plan of what it does or will do, it's just a process of getting better suited for local environment.

of course, it would be too mathematicaly unlikely

always nice to talk to you, g'night

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Originally posted by Banshee

I remember reading that the genetic code was created in such a way that it is capable of altering its code to adapt to certain circumstances eg. Changes in the earth's climate.

 

Yes Popcorn8636, you are correct. It seems to happen that way. Is the genetic code created?

Avatar, I think, somehow, there are a lot more solar systems eg. Universes than we can imagine. In Dutch there is a good word for it. However, it doesn't help me out here, because it is not in English and nothing comes even close to it in English.

As it is as Popcorn8636 says, the genetic code will alter itself, it has nothing to do with mind evolution but all the more with physical evolution.

Still, I do not see why people nowadays feel the urge to destroy all the good and beauty, given to them by Nature.

As such, I do not think the universe is deliberately created, nor that the Big Bang is a fact.

In my opinion something else is responsible for the excistance of life, here on Earth as well as on other planets, perhaps.

No god, nor another kind of creationism though. Just a merge of happenings, all at the same time. The right ingredients if you want. Don't know how to say it any other way. (talking all life now, not specifically human life)

It'll come to me, one of these days.

Although I don't agree entirely with the remark that the Dinosaurs were the highest life form at the time. Well, looking at the character of the Raptors, maybe mankind took their lessons a little too seriously...

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Posted by Banshee:

I don't think humans have an urge to destroy nature, but we kind of have to. At first people knew how to live with nature, take the first nations for insance. But then, someone probably thought of creating large cities with permanent buildings in them.
Once that person or group of people created the town, they found that it was much more comfortable than living in the wild, so nobody wanted to turn back. Eventually, great ammounts of technology took over, and now, we sit here in front of our computer, T.V.'s, DVD and VHS players, walkman, CD's, Appliances, Nintendo's, etc, and don't even bother to think about what life would be like without them. It's all human psycology, it's not that we want to destroy nature.

 

Amused to death!

Maybe it should be good for humans to go back to Nature in stead of destroying it, purposely, to have the wood of the rain forest, for instance, to make high fences and other unnecessarry stuff.

Most humans do want to destroy Nature, they couldn't care less about it. They know very well what damage they do, still they won't stop behaving like fools.

Did you hear about the tigers in Kuala Lumpur which have to be killed because they take too much space among the evergrowing human population? You know what the humans there say? The tigers are a danger! Man, there are only 500 - 600 tigers left! They have to die, 'cause humans need more space to built their damned houses.

Grrr...

 

i think dna from endangered species are collected and stored. if not they should be. we have been at the mercy of the elements for most of our existence. now we create our own environment. green grass and blue skies is what we are used to and make us comfortable. it is unnecessary

imagine now domed habitations on a planet with 2 suns and 5 moons, a toxic
atmosphere outside.betcha my kids born there would still have a ball with nintendo. i'll take the kids to the zoo and show them a tiger brought back to life thru cloning. wife can have sex with the aliens native to the planet! ahh cant wait!!!

i do believe!
throw out your sentimental nostalgia for things past and march boldly into the future!!!!

ps:rolflmao

 

Banshee, the observation that Humans can be said to be devolving at present (I dont neccessarily agree, but you sure have a point) does in no way defy the theory of evolution. Evolution does not happen in a planned way, and a species which has come to total dominance of its habitat may devolve for lack of competition, you could say it becomes decadent. It has happened before, e.g Dodos. Suddenly a new pressure will arrive and the species will either start adapting or be wiped out.

Hans