If God and Heaven exists, do you think God opened the pearly gates in heaven and welcomed the Neanderthals and early Homosapiens? What's your take on this?

Did God open the pearly gates in heaven and welcomed the Neanderthals and early Homosapiens? What's your take on this?

no proof of God's existence.

Yes. As long as they accepted Jesus. Some breeds of dinosaur got in as well.

Yes. Some breeds of dinosaur got in as well.

no proof of heaven either.

The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

That proves nothing but their visions.

Why are you so retarded dragon? Just answer the question in context! Why do you gotta be such a prick with all this "God doesn't exist" blah, blah, blah. And don't retort with "Your a stupid theist", because I'm not.

In the Christian context, it would depend on the sect. Roman Catholics believe that anyone who died before Jesus went into Limbo, but among Protestants, it would differ.

Why are you so retarded dragon? Just answer the question in context! Why do you gotta be such a prick with all this "God doesn't exist" blah, blah, blah. And don't retort with "Your a stupid theist", because I'm not.

In the Christian context, it would depend on the sect. Roman Catholics believe that anyone who died before Jesus went into Limbo, but among Protestants, it would differ.

Jesus limboed?

limbo lower now...how low can you go...how low can you go?

Why are you so retarded dragon? Just answer the question in context! Why do you gotta be such a prick with all this "God doesn't exist" blah, blah, blah. And don't retort with "Your a stupid theist", because I'm not.



Oh, are you an atheist?

With a username and avatar like that, its rather misleading.:)

Oh, are you an atheist?

With a username and avatar like that, its rather misleading.:)

I am not a strong atheist and I do respect the personal freedom that America offers, namely, freedom of religion, in addition to practicing a personal form of spirituality.

Pride in India and her culture often intertwines with religion. Not to mention that Hindu Gods are the sweetest.

jumpercable: If God and Heaven exists, do you think God opened the pearly gates in heaven and welcomed the Neanderthals and early Homosapiens? What's your take on this?

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M*W: Well, of course they were welcomed into heaven. After all, they created the concept of an heaven!

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M*W: Well, of course they were welcomed into heaven. After all, they created the concept of an heaven!

Neanderthals believed in heaven?

nds1: The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

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M*W: Are you saying those cave painters didn't walk? This is the most assinine thing I've ever heard!

nds1: The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

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M*W: Are you saying those cave painters didn't walk? This is the most assinine thing I've ever heard!

they must have been on their 4s...grazing like gazelles through the steppe's

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~draqon/sciforums/okey.bmp

The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

Petroglyphs of men walking? It's the proof Christians have been waiting for...what a day!! Oh wait a minute...can we be sure they're not running, just standing still, laying down or dead? Questions....Just when we think they had it...damn atheists...always ruining a good thing.

Neanderthals believed in heaven?

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M*W: Not only believed in heaven, they created the concept of it.

Actually, Neanderthals, it's been stated, had a concept of the afterlife, because they were found to have ritually buried their dead with artifacts, small animals (pets?), and showed some semblence of grieving for their dead.

nds1: The early cavemen prophesized Jesus coming as the Messiah. They drew pictures on the cave walls involving a man who was walking.

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M*W: Are you saying those cave painters didn't walk? This is the most assinine thing I've ever heard!

I was actually just joking about the whole prophesy thing. I know basically nothing about cavemen, other than they probably existed.

In regards to the orignal thread question I also responded:

Yes. As long as they accepted Jesus. Some breeds of dinosaur got in as well.

Clearly no dinosaurs could have gotten into heaven. At least I hope not.

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M*W: Not only believed in heaven, they created the concept of it.

Actually, Neanderthals, it's been stated, had a concept of the afterlife, because they were found to have ritually buried their dead with artifacts, small animals (pets?), and showed some semblence of grieving for their dead.

that only proofs that Neanderthals have grief for the people they cared for. Does not mean they believed in afterlife.

M*W: Not only believed in heaven, they created the concept of it.


Goliath was a Neanderthal ?

This is crazy :D Having a convo about whether old St Peter stands at Heavens Gates, and ponders whether to let a Neandarthal or a furking Dinosaur in.

How about Hitler or Stalin? How about if Hitler was in his bunker with Eva Braun ready to blow his brains out, and he decided to say a prayer, and say sorry for the misery he's caused. The Pearly Gates must have swung open for Adolf. He's shown repentince after all.

Yes. As long as they accepted Jesus. Some breeds of dinosaur got in as well.

LOL!

Goliath was a Neanderthal ?

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M*W: No. Where did you hear that? Allegedly Goliath was a Philistine. He was a "giant," not a short stocky Neanderthal.

In the Christian context, it would depend on the sect. Roman Catholics believe that anyone who died before Jesus went into Limbo, but among Protestants, it would differ.

Limbo doens't exist anymore! according to the same fools who made it up:
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/living/religion/15680906.htm

God did not invent humans twice, he did it right the first time. Scientists must be mistaken in their interpretation of these finds. They must be the sons of that evil guy, you know, one of Adam's kids, and therefore cursed with original sin.

So we are led to believe that in the christian world, only modern humans are accepted into God's Heaven (if it exists) and forget the Neanderthals and early Homosapiens? Is that the real issue here?

So we are led to believe that in the christian world, only modern humans are accepted into God's Heaven (if it exists) and forget the Neanderthals and early Homosapiens? Is that the real issue here?

The key point here is that fundies are been led to believe that Neanderthals and early homosapiens didn't exist at all! That's part of the evolutionary process, so they dont take into account for anything other than modern men.

Everything else is simply tossed out by them as scientific rhetoric, that is not satisfied by religious dogtrine!

To go in heaven you need a rocket.

To go in heaven you need a rocket.

just make sure that the oxygen and hydrogen tanks got a leak somewhere...

So what's the difference? One more Chromosone get's you into Heaven?

Adam and Eve were dinosaurs. They don't tell you that in church.

If I recall correctly from the coptic scriptures, Adam was a stegosauras and Eve was a raptor.

"Cavemen" were just that, men.

Besides, according to Darwinists, we did not "evolve" from "Neanderthals."

Adam and Eve were dinosaurs. They don't tell you that in church.

If I recall correctly from the coptic scriptures, Adam was a stegosauras and Eve was a raptor.

That sex must have been wicked.

If Neanderthals were excluxed from Heaven (if Heaven exists), so should the early Homosapiens and Hominids too? And for what reason?

Monkeys are monkeys, and humans are humans, very simple.

If Neanderthals were excluxed from Heaven (if Heaven exists), so should the early Homosapiens and Hominids too? And for what reason?

I think that depends on whether each group had the ability to reason or not.

Humans couldn't write Bibles or comprehend the idea of a God without the ability to reason. So in reality, the ability to reason is a prerequisite to serving or acknowledging a potential God. Animals can't serve God's because they can't reason or comprehend the idea of a God.

From my limited reading on past species of man, I think I read that there is no direct link from homosapiens to other cavemen. So possibly the first men God acknowledged as true humans who could enter heaven were the homosapiens, assuming he created this species separate from the other ones.

It can't be denied that dinosaurs and cavemen existed, and it is likely that we evolved. So if we take the story presented in Genesis of the Bible to be true, then I guess the first real humans were the one's which God gave the ability to reason.

The "earliest humans, Neanderthal and Homo Erectus," ritually buried their dead, revealing their concern about the afterlife, they were fully human, monkeys don't do that stuff.

The "earliest humans, Neanderthal and Homo Erectus," ritually buried their dead, revealing their concern about the afterlife, they were fully human, monkeys don't do that stuff.

So Adam and Eve were Neanderthals. That's encouraging.

What was Moses? Homo hominid?

Homo Erectus and Neanderthal were post Deluge phenomena, because of lack of vitamin D and a very rugged lifestyle along the post Deluge Ice Age icepack.

Speaking of Ice Ages, there will be another one in like 7 or 8 thousand years, right?

The only way to stop another ice age from coming is to, well, encourage global warming!

No, geothermal heat (the "fountains of the deep," the Deluge) resulted in the warmer post Deluge waters to cause the Ice Age, not atmospheric heat.

It is interesting that when the first "Neanderthal" was discovered by Virchnow, a medical doctor, he said it was an ancient guy with rickets, and they knew all about rickets during the Industrial Revolution in Europe, but then, the Darwinists got hold of it and said "ah ha, a missing link."

Haven't there been like 7 ice ages so far?

No, but the sea level rise (within a generation) at the end of the Ice Age apparently paused about midway through, and the Ice Age icepack appears to have expanded and contracted somewhat during the Ice Age.

I'm just going by Al Gore in "An Inconvenient Truth." Although I may have misheard him.

Al Gore is just a talking head for those who want to weaken America, those who want America to cut back its economy 20%, but let China carry on.

Al Gore is just a talking head for those who want to weaken America, those who want America to cut back its economy 20%, but let China carry on.

Oh of course... he's a Democrat.

Adam and Eve were dinosaurs. They don't tell you that in church.

If I recall correctly from the coptic scriptures, Adam was a stegosauras and Eve was a raptor.

I remember asking whats sort of fruit Adam and Eve ate...that was prohibited by God...s0 that I want eat that fruit...and my grandma was like...its an apple...than an0ther day she tells me its a grape...I was s00n t0 questi0n that there is s0mething behind all this...:):p

There have been at least four major ice ages in the Earth's past.

The earliest hypothesized ice age is believed to have occurred around 2.7 to 2.3 billion (109) years ago during the early Proterozoic Age.

The earliest well-documented ice age, and probably the most severe of the last 1 billion years, occurred from 800 to 600 million years ago (the Cryogenian period)

[wikipedia]

I'd love to see the supposed evidence for that supposed Ice Age, which would have been before the appearance of life, the "Cambrian explosion," also known as the entombment of the smaller marine creatures first during the Deluge.

I'd love to see the supposed evidence for that supposed Ice Age, which would have been before the appearance of life, the "Cambrian explosion," also known as the entombment of the smaller marine creatures first during the Deluge.

c0me t0 easternm0st Russia...and y0u will see it all ar0und y0u 0n chalky m0untains. believe me.:p

Yes, evidence of the Ice Age, not of a supposed one before the appearance of life on Earth.