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Vern
01-31-05, 09:02 AM
I just read Vacuum Theory (http://www.minescience.com/vol_8.htm) which seems to be a proposal that a universe may be described wherein nothing exists except space itself.

This is very interesting ! I notice that more and more scientists are formulating similar ideas, so far none that I know published in peer reviewed journals. This idea deserves to be explored either to falsification or to a more concrete theory.

What would falsify:


1. If there exists any particle that cannot be reduced to the pure vacuum and its undulations.

2. If it cannot be shown that the natural construct of this kind of particles demands relativity phenomena because of its natural construct. To me it seems that it does, and I have seen derivations of the Lorentz translations directly from this postulate.

There are many more; enough for now; any interest ??

Vern

Quantum Quack
02-01-05, 02:03 AM
A while ago I started a thread exploring the concept of nothingness or vacuum. If you feel inclined have a read at this link to the thread (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=39652&page=1&pp=20)
There have been many threads attempting to deal with the concept of vacuum + time = matter.

It is definitely an intersting area of discussion.

Vern
02-01-05, 07:25 AM
Thanks for the link; it was an interesting read.

The thing that got my attention in the Krasnov Paper (http://www.minescience.com/vol_8.htm) was that relativity phenomena would be a necessary consequence of that construct.

I read the vacuum to be space with the properties that Maxwell described. Particles built of patterns obeying Maxwell's rules would necessarily behave in accord with relativity phenomena. The classic notion of space and time is also necessary else you would have duel cause for relativity.

Just a thought :)

Quantum Quack
02-01-05, 07:27 PM
The classic notion of space and time is also necessary else you would have duel cause for relativity.

Vern can I ask you to elaborate on what you mean by "duel cause for relativity" ?

Vern
02-02-05, 07:49 AM
Duel cause: One cause of relativity would be the curved space-time that Einstein described. However, when you consider a possible universe composed only of vacuum fluctuations ( Maxwell's ) then particles in that universe would be distorted by movement. H. Zeigler (http://www.photontheory.com/howcome.htm#Zeigler) pointed this out to Einstein and Planck in a 1906 conference.

This distortion by movement only agrees with observations when you consider a classic space-time universe.