I have a top quality video and sound lasting for over 10 minutes of AC-130U Gunship on a night rampage in Afghanistan. Their surprise attack in some non-mountainous village gets people running like ants, some towards cars and other cross-country. None of the targets appears to be carrying weapons and certainly are not even shooting back, not even with stones.

The Gunship gets the order to annihilate and the shows begins. They destroy buildings without even questioning if innocent people are inside, they blowup every single moving thing, people jumping in cars, people running across the street, and during the hunt-down for a cross-country runner, they miss so often that they actually require about 12 rockets to finally him.

This video, appear to support abuse of power and gets very close to war-crimes has been shipped to proper agencies all over the world.

You can send me privately your request and if you qualify I will be posting the CD’s next week.

If you can’t wait at http://www.indymedia.org/projects.php3, on the right hand side the video clip is available but in bad quality.

stupid @#$* military bastards!

Is it real? I mean Im asking because it just sounds to perfect, like how that guy turned on the video camera when the cops were beating Mr. King. And as it would turn out Mr. King had been using drugs, and driving really fast. My point? Your only seeing part of the story, you dont know what's really going on, neither do I.

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Is it real? I mean Im asking because it just sounds to perfect, ....
...you dont know what's really going on, neither do I. I know exactly what you mean. The exact answer to that can only be given by those giving the orders and those with the finger on the trigger.

I can only be certain that is not an edited tricked-video, is during a night mission (that technology is one of my specialty), the radio-comm is also crystal clear, in fact there’s an order not to shoot the Mosque. However, they get clearance to shoot adjacent buildings.
One of course can presume that next to the Mosque there were no women, children sleeping, you know, the kind of individuals that can not run that fast. One could also presume that the people running away from the buildings are top terrorist Al-Quaeda operatives, but clear it’s that you don’t see any one carrying a rifle type of weapon, or rocket launcher or hand gun. No one even stops and tries to shoot back towards where the rockets are coming.

It is a little sickening and you don’t notice anything actions similar to surrender.

I do not judge the video, I just analyze its contents like any viewer would. The right people will make one day the correct judgment.

I’ve risked my past and my future on this. In a week time I’ll pull the plug on this thread as you can possibly understand.

Microzoft

Your link doesn't work.

Remove the comma at the end of the URL.

I watched the video. Unfortunately, I do not have audio here so couldn't listen...Anyway, maybe it was because of the tiny window and bad video quality but all I could make out was stuff being blown up. No way could I see if they were shooting unarmed people or anything like that. What I saw could of been shown on the history channel for all I know.

How did you come by this military video? Why do you presume it is a slaughter of innocents? Why would the military do that? Sorry but if this is all the evidence then you have nothing.

Originally posted by *stRgrL*
Microzoft

Your link doesn't work. Sorry, I don't know why!

You may try; http://www.indymedia.org/

On the middle left menu you'll see

imc video projects
IMC Channel

From there you'll be taken to: http://www.indymedia.org/projects.php3

On the right menu the 4th position is the video clip in subject, it is 1.6 Mb bad quality. The one that I'm refering is about 10 minutes long and over 170 Mb.

Originally posted by fadingCaptain
I watched the video. Unfortunately, I do not have audio here so couldn't listen...Anyway, maybe it was because of the tiny window and bad video quality but all I could make out was stuff being blown up. No way could I see if they were shooting unarmed people or anything like that. What I saw could of been shown on the history channel for all I know.

How did you come by this military video? Why do you presume it is a slaughter of innocents? Why would the military do that? Sorry but if this is all the evidence then you have nothing. I think that I did mentioned about the poor quality at that link, and did mentioned for those that couldn’t wait.

The one that I have is close to DV quality and perfect sharp sound, ….do I need to repeat myself?

Why do I presume it is a slaughter? I think I did mentioned already, or did I not?

Why would the military do that? I’m a military and can not answer that!

I have nothing? Well,……OK but it could be you

With all due respect, I think is you who doesn’t have it. ..The video in subject, of course.

The one that I have is close to DV quality and perfect sharp sound, ….do I need to repeat myself?
Who cares what you have? What is presented in the form of evidence is what is important. I do not care what you claim you have. I am just presenting an opinion on what I have available to me.
I have nothing? Well,……OK but it could be you
Not sure what you mean here.
With all due respect, I think is you who doesn’t have it. ..The video in subject, of course.
That means exactly zero until I can see it with my own two eyes...

Not meaning to disrespect just letting you know that what is on that website is not much.

Who the hell could tell what this video is of? Innocents? How can you even see the people?

Originally posted by fadingCaptain
Who cares what you have? What is presented in the form of evidence is what is important. I do not care what you claim you have. I am just presenting an opinion on what I have available to me.

Not sure what you mean here.

That means exactly zero until I can see it with my own two eyes...

Not meaning to disrespect just letting you know that what is on that website is not much. I am the first one that does care on what I have!

My thread is intended to provide a unique opportunity to those out there that may still have opened mind to receive this video for their own information. It is not my intention to present any sort of evidence or discuss in this forum if my analysis of this video is or isn’t correct.

…That will be bias and unfair to all those that haven’t seen that exact video.

You don’t care the claims that I have. I don’t recall asking anyone to care about my claim!

And yes, I do understand that you are presenting an opinion on what you have, that you already indicated it is nothing.

And yes, you are right that what’s on that webpage is not a great deal.

Originally posted by *stRgrL*
Who the hell could tell what this video is of? Innocents? How can you even see the people? I wish I could help you, but this isn’t the repetitive repeating Thread :rolleyes:

Sorry, I really hate when I repeat things over and over and over:rolleyes:

its anti-american propaganda hatched by traitorous moslem-americans working for al-quaeda. i call upon all patritiotic american sciforumers to track these suckers down!


ps: what credentials do i have to present to qualify?
pss: are you using a proxy server? ip spoofer? public terminal?
psss: hark! is that a knock i hear?

:D

Originally posted by spookz
its anti-american propaganda hatched by traitorous moslem-americans working for al-quaeda. i call upon all patritiotic american sciforumers to track these suckers down!


ps: what credentials do i have to present to qualify?
pss: are you using a proxy server? ip spoofer? public terminal?
psss: hark! is that a knock i hear?

:D Test me if you can!:D

Microzoft,

I’m a military and can not answer that!

What military are you in? Also, where did the video come from?

Originally posted by EvelinaAnville
Microzoft,



What military are you in? Also, where did the video come from? I am sorry but I can answer your first question like this, and I hope that not answering that sensitive question does not alter the importance of this thread’s message.

Where the video came from? If I tell you de details, you can imagine what would happen. …surely you can picture that!

Finally, for you and all. I’m not prosecuting anyone or anything here. I have something and I have commented on what are the contents on what appears to be very clear. I did also mention in the summary, that “This video, appear to support abuse….”

Those, whom may qualify for me to post this video, will have to come to their own conclusions.

Massacre? Yeah, we send our C130s out to terrorise small parts of the country for no reason. Uh huh, stupid AMERIKKKA. There's NO reason they should have been out there killing groups of people.

They did an exceptional job.

Originally posted by Kyle_S
Massacre? Yeah, we send our C130s out to terrorise small parts of the country for no reason. Uh huh, stupid AMERIKKKA. There's NO reason they should have been out there killing groups of people.

They did an exceptional job. Yeah, approximately 10 to 13 rockets launched to hit a single individual! :bugeye:

It's a fake.... A bad one. I could make better.

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
It's a fake.... A bad one. I could make better. The topic covered here are too deep for you, you should try to come out of your Cube2 for a while and smell the roses!!
..but I’m not trying to change your opinion!!
:D

Shut up Microzoft. That was a cheap shot. The Cube was a good movie, how dare you disrespect it.:D

Originally posted by CounslerCoffee
Shut up Microzoft. That was a cheap shot. The Cube was a good movie, how dare you disrespect it.:D Who’s talking about Cube??
You the one that just started CUBE2 thread!!

Wouldn’t be possible, just possible, …that you’re in the wrong thread?
:bugeye:

i assume your sending it to amnastaty international?

also forwarding it to the person incharge of human rights at the UN and the secratary genral as well as the embassys in your country is a good idear

Originally posted by Microzoft
Yeah, approximately 10 to 13 rockets launched to hit a single individual! :bugeye: You fool, you know nothing about what you're watching.

http://www.aitrus.org/AfghaniTornado.jpg

http://www.aitrus.org/c130_spectre.jpeg

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The Gunship gets the order to annihilate and the shows begins. They destroy buildings without even questioning if innocent people are inside,
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Well next time they had better send you in to find out.

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None of the targets appears to be carrying weapons and certainly are not even shooting back, not even with stones.
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I don't think any one with an ounce of brains would worry about taking there weapons with them while trying to get away from a gunship!

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Why would the military do that? I’m a military and can not answer that!
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I don't know what military you are in,but there won't be many of them left if they try to fight back without really good missiles, when a 130 comes after them.
Also,if you have what you say you have,then you heard them say "take out the cave entrance".I heard that's where the fighters live

Originally posted by Kyle_S
You fool, you know nothing about what you're watching.



Without seen you know what you are watching?
You don’t need your own eyes!:o

This is so old.... I saw it months ago.

This video, appear to support abuse of power and gets very close to war-crimes has been shipped to proper agencies all over the world.

when? this week? Its been on the web for many months, and I have yet to hear anything about if from any human rights agencies.

i assume your sending it to amnastaty international?

I doubt he's sending it anywhere.... it isn't like hes the only one with access...

Originally posted by odin
I don't know what military you are in,but there won't be many of them left if they try to fight back without really good missiles, when a 130 comes after them.
Also,if you have what you say you have,then you heard them say "take out the cave entrance".I heard that's where the fighters live

“The strongest and most effective missiles are not those made by men.”
......but you should know that by now!

Originally posted by Microzoft
Without seen you know what you are watching?
You don’t need your own eyes!:o What the hell did you just say? Are you foreign or just stupid?

This video has been out for months and the original video is about 200mb in size.

Originally posted by aitrus
This is so old.... I saw it months ago.

when? this week? Its been on the web for many months, and I have yet to hear anything about if from any human rights agencies.
It is months old and it did went to the right places.

so I guess they find it acceptable then

Originally posted by Kyle_S
What the hell did you just say? Are you foreign or just stupid?

This video has been out for months and the original video is about 200mb in size. Some human-forms have the capacity to comment about
something without reading it.

That special skill doesn’t need training!

Originally posted by Microzoft
Some human-forms have the capacity to comment about
something without reading it.

That special skill doesn’t need training! Originally posted by Kyle_S
What the hell did you just say? Are you foreign or just stupid?

Originally posted by aitrus
so I guess they find it acceptable then Perhaps ….but time will tell, like it always seems to do!!

“The strongest and most effective missiles are not those made by men.”
......but you should know that by now!
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Microzoft could you please explain this in greater detail please.
I would like to know how to shoot an A130 gunship down,as all the crap being written on the net etc about the Americans attacking,you never know I might have to shoot one down over south London!


:rolleyes:

Originally posted by odin
“The strongest and most effective missiles are not those made by men.”
......but you should know that by now!
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Microzoft could you please explain this in greater detail please.
I would like to know how to shoot an A130 gunship down,as all the crap being written on the net etc about the Americans attacking,you never know I might have to shoot one down over south London!


:rolleyes: You remember Milosevik from Serbia?
..Well he enjoyed the fun while it lasted. Now he isn’t having much fun anymore, is he??
Well, it didn’t take a A130 to get him there!!

I knew that was what you meant.
BUT we are talking about an AC130 gunship here!Or have you forgotten?
You can not fight a war without killing people,have you forgotten that as well?
You said that they were unarmed! People like you who think that by doing a reverse Jihad ie blaming people,will get you a place in paradise with 73 virgins,are just as bad as the ones that kill for it.

Also,are you saying propaganda is not made by man?Then by who?
or are you already a god!
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by odin
I knew that was what you meant.
BUT we are talking about an AC130 gunship here!Or have you forgotten?
You can not fight a war without killing people,have you forgotten that as well?
You said that they were unarmed! People like you who think that by doing a reverse Jihad ie blaming people,will get you a place in paradise with 73 virgins,are just as bad as the ones that kill for it.

Also,are you saying propaganda is not made by man?Then by who?
or are you already a god!
:rolleyes: No, I haven’t forgotten that we’re talking about a AC130, and please spare me the going around. This thread starts by saying that I have something that I’m willing to give in top digital video and sound quality. That I can not discuss this subject with anyone that hasn’t seen that same quality video. And of course, anyone that what’s to come to premature conclusions of their own, it is their own nervous right.

Forgetting that you can not have a war without killing people??? What that has to do with anything here??? That comment of yours would be more appropriate in a thread dealing with ethics of war, rules of engagement, etc, etc, definitely not here.

I say that propaganda not made by man?? Don’t know what you are talking about. Can you please quote me on that exactly? …please!

And no, …I am definitely not a God and will never be.

:bugeye:

“The strongest and most effective missiles are not those made by men.”
......but you should know that by now!

You remember Milosevik from Serbia?
..Well he enjoyed the fun while it lasted. Now he isn’t having much fun anymore, is he??
Well, it didn’t take a A130 to get him there!!
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What doe's all this mean then?
:rolleyes:

This thread is literally pointless. Why, you keep comenting about how that video is low quality and that it doesn't show how "inocent people get killed" by what?.... 10-13 missles... lol!

Anyway, don't cary on pointless discissoins in which you are the only one who apears to have that high quality video. We who do not believe that video (including myself) have no other source, and therefore can do nothing but coment on that particular video (which, by the way, seems to be a cheap fake, as CounslerCoffee
has said).

I do hope, however, that you come up with some alternative source, something with which we could carry on further discissions.

Best regards,

Alien Mastermind.

Originally posted by Alien Mastermind
This thread is literally pointless. Why, you keep comenting about how that video is low quality and that it doesn't show how "inocent people get killed" by what?.... 10-13 missles... lol!

I do hope, however, that you come up with some alternative source, something with which we could carry on further discissions.

Best regards,

Alien Mastermind. This is really getting at a pathetic level, …let me try to simplify it!!!

-Me have quality video of AC130 on Night Mission over Afgan.
-It appears to be a massacre.
-Me will be willing to send by post those who like to see it.
-Only those who see it can honestly judge its contents accurately.
-This thread is not to discuss (read again) my opinion.
-Those who can not wait can see a short low quality at a webpage.
…What it is bad quality?, isn’t that exactly what I said?
-You don’t want or care about the Video?. OK! … bye bye
-You think my opinion wrong without U seen that video?, OK bye bye.
-You want to discuss military might?, No on this thread please, OK bye bye.
-You think you know better? OK .bye ..bye

Finally and basically, if you don’t want what I offer, …..you have no business here!

Regards,
:bugeye:

We still have to humiliate you and poke holes in your conclusions.... cant leave without doing that...

Originally posted by Clockwood
We still have to humiliate you and poke holes in your conclusions.... cant leave without doing that... Heheee! Thanks for the moral support.
But that isn’t happening, …they are choosing the wrong battleground!!
;)

I've already seen it, you twit. And so, probably, has half the denizens on the internet. They're flying over afghanistan, and their job is to take out a storage center very near a mosque, as well as the people who maintain it (if seen outside the mosque), as well as a tunnel close to the area.

Now stop coveting the video like a bag of poop you found when you were 3 years old.

Thanks for that post,it was obvious they where not just on a killing spree of innocents!So now the truth Thanks.

so what if they were?

For a long time after 9-11 I wanted to kill every living thing in afganastan. Every goat, every shrub, every person. Everything.

That is how wars went until after WW2 when you had to care about the welfare of the enemy. It used to be a good thing to be bloodthirsty. Those were the days....

Those were the days....
Of the ignorant!

Originally posted by odin
Thanks for that post,it was obvious they where not just on a killing spree of innocents!So now the truth Thanks.
Kyle S: There’s no tunnel in the 10 minute (200Mb), video that I’m referring to. There could be many videos out there. Who cares! I have only offered and talked over the one in subject.
If I have offered to send by post the video, how am I covering it????

Odin: You have not seen the video in subject and because a Nintendo-staff-sergeant he only mentions about “They're flying over Afghanistan, and their job is to take out a storage center very near a mosque…”
…..and you thank him for “they where not just on a killing spree of innocents”?????

But he didn’t say that?? …and you believe!
Are you able to make decisions in your life without letting others doing it for you???

I have something, I’m offering it, and you don’t qualify for me to send it to you by post. So… what are you guys doing here????? Aren’t there more interesting threads??
:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Microzoft
Kyle S: There’s no tunnel in the 10 minute (200Mb), video that I’m referring to. There could be many videos out there. Who cares! I have only offered and talked over the one in subject.
If I have offered to send by post the video, how am I covering it????Put it on an FTP and I will watch it and reconfirm everything I've been saying.

But the thing is, I already know what video you're talking about. I've already seen it. Yes, there is a tunnel, yes they do destroy it.

Microzoft,

Where did you get this video (the good quality one)? I sure want to see it... And then I would like to know where to find more...

Originally posted by Kyle_S
Put it on an FTP and I will watch it and reconfirm everything I've been saying.

But the thing is, I already know what video you're talking about. I've already seen it. Yes, there is a tunnel, yes they do destroy it.

1) Those wishing to receive the video, please send me private message or email me at sos_line@usa.com

2) Those with availability for uploads, send me necessary information at above email.

3) Those that are not interested, ..please don’t bother to tell me, is not necessary

Kyle_S: You don’t need to move a finger!

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Microzoft,

Where did you get this video (the good quality one)? I sure want to see it... And then I would like to know where to find more... I obviously can not say, except that is first copy from the on-board original. Want to see it, well that is the idea from my first message on this thread. pls. send request privately.

If you people want the video, get it here:

http://www.randomlies.com/downloads/short_films/gunship_video.mpeg

You're either batshit insane, foreign, or just plain dumb, Microzoft. I'm venturing towards the later. Now for an e-mail transcript:

Me: (mimicking the gramar skills of the average poster on these forums)Subject: viddeo [hahahahhaha]
hi i would like to ge6t thtat givdoe.

Microzoft:Subject: Re: viddeo
Hello Scott,

The video is very hot material, you will agree once you see it. Once you receive the video, it is your own responsibility on what you do with it, what ever you do, make sure is intelligently and wise.

Now, I can send it to your post address this week or if you have ways of a server, giving me the details I could up-load the 162 Megabytes to you.

Either way as upload or as a postal address.
Best regards,
Microzoft.Okay, yeah sure. HOT STUFF! THE CIA IS OUT TO GET ME!

Me: (again) Subject: Re: Re: viddeo
tahnsk!!

use fTPplaese!!1

IPs 68.104.212.*
logina: microzoft
passworsd: micro

THANKSA!!!!!!hehehehhehe..

Thanks for the video, but I've already seen numerous coppies. If the link supplied at the top somehow dies, just use KaZaA or Direct Connect and search for "gunship_video".

P.S.
http://www.aitrus.org/datalaugh.jpg

Originally posted by Kyle_S

Thanks for the video, but I've already seen numerous coppies. If the link supplied at the top somehow dies, just use KaZaA or Direct Connect and search for "gunship_video".


I don’t know if it’s that your office’s work is sickening, or that from all that sex abstention the sperm is flooding your little brain. Either way it is obvious that you jerk yourself on a hair of stimulus.

A day before I’ve send you the video, I posted in “Ricin discovered in London”, that I could call you Scott or Joeman, to give you a hint that I was fully aware of you. You outsmarted yourself again.

I decided to let you have it so that at least, I may sense if you been a radical psychopath would have a healing chance.

…obviously no, since your ways are those of making up stories and fantasies.

You just need to get ready for what’s coming next, until then, ..Fantasies!


:o

Originally posted by Microzoft
I don’t know if it’s that your office’s work is sickening, or that from all that sex abstention the sperm is flooding your little brain. Either way it is obvious that you jerk yourself on a hair of stimulus.

:o
microsoft, you're funny, ....how can i get the video, thanks!:)

Originally posted by Virgin
microsoft, you're funny, ....how can i get the video, thanks!:) I hate repeating my self!

By post or upload, send me private message.
:rolleyes:

I see you say Scott, but then who is Joeman?

A much better copy of the vid mentioned at the beginning of the thread is here!

http://demandmedia.net/story/2003/1/5/115218/6551

Originally posted by odin
A much better copy of the vid mentioned at the beginning of the thread is here!

http://demandmedia.net/story/2003/1/5/115218/6551 That is correct, it is 5.6Mbytes 7:24 minutes posted January 5th, sound quality is great although video quality is not as detailed and sharp as 164 Mbytes MPG-2. I think the details of the images make a big differences, nevertheless, does it look to you as an all out war or a dog-hunt? My surprise in that video, (that’s many months old) was the fact that we portrait our selves as a high-tech superpower with our super-commandos, that instead of conducting a ground assault (there are no many people in the area), our forces decided to blast the area from a massive air power at high altitude. Airborne are getting pinning directives from some (own-guys) ground sniffers, which indicates they knew ahead an estimate of individuals in that area.

Of cause, at the time the instruction from Bush was basically shoot every rabbet with long bear. But is it just? Coming from a super power like ours, since that kind of hunt-down, many other countries can do it as well without having to spend as much money as we do in military might?
:confused:

that instead of conducting a ground assault (there are no many people in the area), our forces decided to blast the area from a massive air power at high altitude.
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I think its very sensible,lets face it you would not fight people with guns,with a slingshot.
Or maybe you would,but I would not.