what did you guys think of the show? how anna reacted to what happned? and what the hell do you think anna initiated?
I like it. I've seen every episode, so far. I haven't seen the original. She flipped out. Bt then again, wouldn't you if your army was just destroyed? Tough to say. I'm going to gues it was a sun blocking device. Something to scare the humans with. I can't believe the 5th column V and his wife got captured.
It's SOOO far fetched. Um, why can't they tap all of earth's cell phones and listen in on the FBI chick's conversations? Why don't they have gazillions of cameras all over their ship monitoring things? Okay, that said. . . yes, I watch every episode and enjoy it greatly. . . . with a grain of salt. ~String
It must be this way for the same reason that the agents from The Matrix didn't/couldn't jump into Neo's body the first time he met Morpheus: those holes in logic are necessary for the story to continue.
I like it. I also liked the original V. I do think the new one is an improvement over the original, though. She showed emotion. I wonder how she can now justify rounding up other V's who show emotion? Probably something to block out the sun. Or maybe something that will block cell phones and high-speed internet, since Americans can't live without them.
I was hoping for more suspense/surprises. They gave everything away in teh first episode, so I never watched it again
Wasn't that "To Serve Mankind", where all the people were invited to visit and off planet world, they all got on board ships thinking that Aliens were here to "Serve" us and fullfill our ego's, but instead they were all being turned into alien recipes. "How to serve up mankind". Pretty terrible B-movie with a terrible ending, but back then B-movies were freebies additional to matinees. Not like nowadays where they fob you off with a cliffhanger and turn one movie into a trilogy or more to screw you for you hard earned cash. As for the subject of "V", I haven't seen this remake, the original was pretty good from what I remember, although I would of only been a young teen, so I would of been well impressed with lizardmen and women eating mice and human meat lockers, as well as the hybrid birth which was a cross between the parasite escaping in "Aliens" and the dancing alien in Spaceballs. Although I was an impressionable age, even I reasoned "So this is the crack that David Icke was on".
Actually, it was an episode of the Twilight Zone. And a pretty good one. I agree that they gave away way too much in the first episode, but I kept watching. She's the boss. But perhaps they should rescan her to establish a new baseline. What I want to know is, are emotions a communicable disease? Mr. Spock, despite being half human, never really lost it the way Anna did in that last episode. I doubt it would block out the sun. These are lizards, after all. They probably like it hot. If the intent is to influence the climate, it would probably be meant to make earth warmer. My guess is that it will serve as a shield to block our view of the massive fleet about to invade the earth. I don't consider that a plot hole. The fact that they injected the bug into Neo would suggest that they need something extra to constantly monitor a certain person. If they hadn't removed the bug, the agents probably could have simply jumped into neo's body as soon as he met Morpheus. I think the first Matrix was a great movie with few plot holes, two and three (especially three), not so much. Why the hell didn't they defend Zion the way they defended their ships? With EMP's. They should have had multiple rings of EMP's. Set one off, start repairing/recharging. Meanwhile, the next ring is ready to go. And what the hell was the deal with those idiotic mech things? They provided no protection for the operator whatsoever! It could be a lot of things. For one, even if the V's are impervious to our weapons, we have the capacity to fuck up the planet while attempting to fight back. A radioactive planet pushed into nuclear winter might not be very useful to the V's. Or why don't they at least monitor their prisoners and VIP's? Ditto.
I actually consider the bug thing to be a plot hole, too. When the agents were pursuing Trinity at the beginning of the movie, they were able to jump into the body of anyone who saw her (like the driver of the truck that smashed the phone booth). At the end of the movie when Neo was running for an exit, the agents were jumping from body to body pretty quickly. I don't see why they couldn't have jumped into Neo's body when he first met Trinity at the club or when she and the others picked him up under the bridge. They didn't seem to need a "bug" to track people in any other situation.
I stand corrected... obviously I must have wondered into the zone by accident... oh well Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I sort of thought of it like that government program that watches out for keywords and then records the conversation. Perhaps their programing is such that they can jump from person to person when a certain stimulus is presented (i.e. Neo running by), but can't continually track someone without a "bug".
I know this is annoying, but there is an in depth analysis of the movies done by a professor. In it he points out that Neo is the seventh incarnation of the one. He postulates that this is the result of one of two possibilities: Neo is genetically engineered by the machines to be their much needed "exit" for the rebellious and "reboot" of humanity. (Listen to the Architect's quotes: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexorably here.") This anomaly had to be countered by giving humans an exit to prevent crop failure. Neo may have been genetically engineered to create this anomaly. In order to force Neo to reboot the Matrix, then exit the Matrix with a collection of humans to restart Zion, they created the Smith to battle him to a standstill. Seven Matrices have come and gone and in each one, Zion was repopulated by the One with help from the Oracle. The Matrix was rebooted with new crops of human beings. Humans were never allowed to progress beyond a certain point because to do so would negate the purpose of their enslavement. In the seventh incarnation of the Matrix, Neo refuses to obey the rules, he does not merge with the Matrix and the Smith--who acknowledges that he was around for all previous incarnations--is allowed to continue to grow and grow. Within his genes (randomly placed within a human located somewhere in the crops) is an anomaly that gives him powers that extend way beyond the Matrix, which also causes the Machines distress. At some point Smith's growth goes well beyond his programming and the control of the Machines and they become panicked. The Smith becomes a "cancer" and has to be destroyed but his program is designed only to be reset by the one. Forced into a corner, the Machines contemplate total annihilation of all of humanity and the Matrix to prevent Smith's exit from the Matrix and infection of the Machine world. The Mother of the Matrix (the Oracle), convinces the Architect to end the cycle and allow human beings to have full free will again and live outside the Matrix if they choose, without interference or destruction. Option two is the very same thing, except that Neo is a genetic anomaly, not engineered by the Machines. It is slightly less likely because of the significant leap in genetics needed. It is also unlikely because the Machines willingly invest a great deal of energy in the existence of the One, which is needed to give the most rebellious humans an exit from the Matrix In any case, both the One and the Smith, in their seven incarnations, become something more than what they were supposed to be, and thus forced the Machines to forgive humans for their crimes (as shown in the Animatrix). ~String
Yeah, a lot of the stuff in V is rather cheesy, but it's still fun in its own way, and they've gotten a little better on some things. They're pushing well past the believable point with their resistance part, though... And the gunfight at the end of the last episode, just before Agent Evans shot Matthew (it was Matthew, right? I'm terrible with names...), was absolutely horrible. And their stand-off when she shot him was just as bad.
Is this show coming back, or what? Answered my own question, according to this site, it returns in November. Interestingly, it also claims that Jane Badler from the original series will be back as Anna's mother, Diana: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I've been watching it because I like Elizabeth Mitchell (Erica Evans), who played Dr. Juliet Burke on "Lost." (The producers of that show should be forbidden to ever work again, after betraying our trust.) She has an understated, deadpan style of acting that I find rather charming. She never shows emotion--she might have actually been better cast as one of the aliens! I've seen her interviewed and that's strictly an act that she has mastered and made into her trademark; she's fun and sensitive in real life. As for the show itself--ho hum. Nicely produced, fun to watch. The story is maybe just a teeny-weeny bit hokey, but the weaknesses are bearable. (If you want the sci in "sci-fi" to stand up to rigorous scrutiny, you have to limit yourself to print. TV and movies drag us breathlessly past all of our questions.) The characters are well-enough drawn that it's possible to care about them. The aliens keep sneering at us for the "weakness" of our emotions, so you'd think that would mean that they don't have any themselves. Apparently that's not quite true. As I said, the script is not up to the standards of written sci-fi. I long ago gave up trying to guess what scriptwriters have in mind. They so often disappoint me. Case in point: "Lost."
Perhaps their society recently went thru a Vulcan like philosophical reform in which they decided that emotions were a sign of weakness and should be suppressed Thus their zeal against the expression of emotions might be similiar to that of the reformed alcoholic that turns into an anti-alcohol crusader.
